Carole Estabrook: Schools can't be targets for cuts

By: Carole Estabrook

Monday, November 9, 2009 9:47 AM EST

Being a Gov. David Paterson supporter, I was surprised when he proposed more than $600 million in mid-year cuts to schools. I found it particularly alarming considering the National Assessment of Educational Progress exams show no improvement in the state's embarrassingly low academic achievement levels.
So if our students aren't performing well, why on earth would you cut from education? Having fewer teachers and more students certainly isn't going to help the students get the personal attention they need.

Besides, schools have already had to cut teaching positions. Many schools have had to consolidate to unmanageable levels. I imagine the next positions on the chopping-block will be the people who serve as classroom aides. And with more schools moving toward an “inclusion” model, in which special needs students learn alongside their peers, how are teachers supposed to divide their attention without assistance?

Consider: could you manage 30 second-graders without help? I know I couldn't and I seriously doubt Paterson could.

As Paterson lives with a disability, I find it surprising that he isn't fighting for more positions to help students with disabilities. As the first African-American governor in the state's history, I find it surprising that he isn't doing more to address the racial achievement gap. In fact, what has Paterson done for education?

I applaud how hard he has worked to promote healthy school lunches, but education should have been his top priority.

In today's economy, parents can't afford to stay at home with their children. If the home is no longer an extension of the classroom, then teachers need to work that much harder to make sure that the individual needs of their students are met before the last bell rings. And that can't be accomplished on a shoestring budget. If you don't believe me, compare student performance at inner city schools with schools in high income areas and then try to tell me that money doesn't matter.

The fiscal crisis necessitates cuts in spending. But education should never have to suffer to accommodate the bottom line. I think Paterson needs to take a second look at the budget. I think a fine-tooth comb might reveal a number of places where good old fashioned philanthropy could foot the bill in place of the state.

In the meantime, I think the teachers unions should organize a rally to make absolutely certain that Paterson hears loud and clear that these cuts simply can't happen.

Estabrook's column appears Mondays and she can be reached at estabrookcarole@yahoo.com

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jlmorgansr wrote on Nov 21, 2009 9:14 AM:

" Longboard315 Moronic? You have to be kidding me. You , or whould I say we have a school system that has been abused for decades, the Gpvernor realizes this and as suxh is calling for reductions in state aid? Why is he doing this? Because he is trying to close a deficit. A Multi BILLION DOLLAR deficit. Yet you call me a moron? Youj my friend have to get a grip. Unemployment is OVER 10% and yet we have over paid administrators making 6 figures a year. And to be honest not one of them is worth a plugged nickle.
Tell me where JD Pabis got the money to buy the smart boards that were rejected by the publiv? Tell me why JD Pabis refused and fought to give this paper a line by line item of the proposal? Tell me why they are limiting the polling places? tell me oh great one, please enlighten us. And why your at it tell me why they are buying regular door knobs at $250.00 a piece. Abuse my friend, just like the $51,000 storage shed that the finally fave to NYSEG thanks to Joe Leo Grande. And finally tell me wht JD Pabis is pushing IED students through the system and forcing them to quit? All fact and verifiable. So if you want to see a moron go talk to JD Pabis and his board, better yet look in hte mirror "

northender wrote on Nov 20, 2009 5:44 PM:

" and as the admin assistant was saying that'll be enough to save his job ,because they cant teach without him "

upstateclipse wrote on Nov 18, 2009 12:26 PM:

" New York spends more on education than any other state and the results are mediocre. It is time to cut spending and start being efficient. You can not force these kids to want to be there nor can you force their parents to be responsible. Until the culture at home changes, we are just flushing money down the toilet. I applaud Patterson for standing up to the unions on this issue and other tax paying citizens should as well. I would rather see my dollars spent elsewhere or better yet, not at all. "

horseradish wrote on Nov 17, 2009 3:00 PM:

" Ugh, Carol, sure the schools can be a target for cuts. The state has been overspending for years and years and years. Things have to be cut, and cut across the board. School taxes are already way too high, why should we have a bunch of state tax dollars being allocated there as well.

Efficiency, Not Quantity. "

Andy b wrote on Nov 16, 2009 10:50 AM:

" My wife is a teacher so I know pretty well the "perks" you get. Lots of time off and an excellent pension, disabilty insurance and health insurance. Are teachers overpaid? No. Are teachers underpaid victims at the mercy of the world? Definitely not. Teachers are very important and deserve more respect than they are usually given. Get rid of tenure and the unions protection of bad teachers and everybody including 90% of teachers would be better off. "

teacher1 wrote on Nov 16, 2009 8:48 AM:

" What "perks" do teachers have? Oh you mean the summer vacation where we spend a good part of it in trainings and workshops and the other part in our classrooms prepping for the coming school year? Or the perk of dealing with students who are violent, on drugs while they are in school, disrespectful, ambivolent about getting an education, and their parents who think their children can do no wrong and should walk across the stage to get a diploma that said child did not actually earn?? Are those the perks you are referring to???? I truly hope you aren't referring to our salaries, because I live far from a lavish lifestyle. Because I am required to have a Master's degree just to walk into a classroom I have students loans that I will still be paying off when my son starts college. And health insurance--a)we don't get it for free and b) it's not great. And thank you longboard 315--at least someone around here realizes what teachers are dealing with. "

Andy B wrote on Nov 16, 2009 8:06 AM:

" You are right about teachers working hard, but they have plenty of perks also. We spend more than anybody else in the world on education and it hasn't helped. Throwing more money at schools won't help. Get rid of tenure and get the unions out of school. You will see expenses plummet and scores increase. "

longboard315 wrote on Nov 16, 2009 6:12 AM:

" jlmorgansr - one of the most moronic posts I have ever read. Teachers are the most under-valued and under-appreciated professions when you factor in all the college, graduate and other degrees they MUST obtain to teach in the 1st place. And teachers work LONG hours people, wether you realize it or not. Their work doesnt stop when they leave the bldg. They take their work home - grading papers, quizzes, lesson plans, etc. And all for what, 40-50K a year maybe? Thats on the cheap; professors in colleges do much better. Why do you think other countries are surpassing the US? Countries like China, Sweden and the Netherlands? They invest more into their education programs while our country makes cuts. You get what you pay for folks....very simple. "

beenthereanddonethat wrote on Nov 15, 2009 4:46 PM:

" the teachers and civil service unions are only fighting to see they get a cut of the pie.My issue is with an ever increasing and never ending milking from administration. you count the number of them and look at those saleries, and dont forget to dig for those perks, the milage payments, school vehicles, etc.you can rest assured where they have trimmed custodians,cleaners, bus drivers, teachers and aids you can betcha there's been no cuts in administration.We all know the more money you give them,they will spend it, "

Andy b wrote on Nov 11, 2009 3:18 PM:

" You are absolutely right Taxpayer51. "

Taxpayer51 wrote on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 PM:

" NYS schools perform poorly, but it has nothing to do with money. You could cut their budgets by 20% and still have more than enough to teach our kids. The problem is the teachers unions and education bureaucrats really don't care about kids -- its all about more money for the unions.

The idea that any budget cuts will hurt "the kids" is just political hogwash. "

teacher1 wrote on Nov 10, 2009 8:47 AM:

" And as much as people criticize teachers' unions for strong arming our government, both at the state and federal level, it is obvious that teachers need those advocates to be a voice against those who think teachers should just sit in the middle of a parking lot with one book and get every single student--including those very significant disabilities--to pass all Regents exams. "

teacher1 wrote on Nov 10, 2009 8:44 AM:

" Building fit for gods? When was the last time you were in a school, the 18th century??? As I have pointed out to others in the past, people are more than willing to pay high end prices for cars and televisions and houses, yet expect their children to be educated for free!!!! "

jlmorgansr wrote on Nov 9, 2009 3:56 PM:

" I couldn't disagree with you more. The schools are not a sacred lamb. Every year the districts ask for more and more money. They are buildings that are fit for the gods. Marble every where, 51,000 for fixing a 8x10 building. Insane???,,,,,you betcha "

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