Skaneateles bans village workers from smoking near buildings

By Christopher Caskey / The Citizen

Monday, September 14, 2009 11:40 PM EDT

SKANEATELES - Smokers have to keep their cigarette butts away from public buildings in Skaneateles.
And village employees caught breaking the rule will face an official reprimand.

The Skaneateles Village Board passed a new policy Monday banning smoking in and next to village buildings or vehicles. The policy aligns village protocol with a current state law that makes smoking in all public buildings and vehicles illegal.

However, the village ban forces smokers to stand more than five feet away from any door on public buildings, which is not a state law and it mandates that smokers avoid anyone leaving those buildings.

The new policy also defines possible penalties for village employees who do not follow the rules: a verbal warning for the first offense, a written reprimand for the second and possible suspension after that.

Village Attorney Mike Byrne said after the meeting that the new policy allows the village to handle issues or complaints before the state Health Department is asked to intervene.

“The fact is it's a law, ... but we want to be able to deal with it internally,” he said.

Byrne said there was a complaint in July about smoking in a public building. However, he also said it is not a big problem in general.

The village has the authority to ban smoking on all village properties, Byrne said. But the newly approved rules also recognize that there are many good, hard-working employees who are also smokers.

“We're not trying to turn their lives upside down,” he said.

Department heads and the code enforcement officer will be in charge of enforcing the policy. Written complaints can also be filed with code enforcement or the village office.

The village board considered a few years ago banning smoking in all public parks.

However, enforcement issues kept that from coming to fruition.

Trustee Sue Jones said Monday that enforcement is always a major issue when taking action like that. But she also said smoking poses a real quality-of-life issue in the village.

“Personally, for the long term, I think it's an area I would look toward,” Jones said.

In other news:

• Some local residents were not too thrilled about the noise generated last weekend by a popular annual race. Police Chief Lloyd Perkins said the village received a couple noise complaints about the Skaneateles Labor Day Race Weekend.

Perkins said the complaints focused mainly on announcements made through a sound system as early as 5:30 a.m.

Organizers were also concerned about the complaints and are working with local officials to prevent it from happening again, he said.

The two-day event features multiple running, biking and swimming races, some starting at 8 a.m. or earlier.

Staff writer Christopher Caskey can be reached at 253-5311 ext. 282 or christopher.caskey@lee.net.

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guitardude62 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 4:26 PM:

" Ok, now I will comment on the smoking thing-I couldnt agree more with genegirl59 in one respect--I'll quote you " Too bad it has to be a law and could not just be common courtesy." Who do you think you're talking about here?? People who think the world is their ashtrays, that's who. Drive down the road any given time and there's someine tossing their ashes and cig.butts out the window. Just this past Saturday I was behind a young girl driving a Hybrid Civic on RT 5 in Auburn with all of her - peace/love-end the war/go green stickers plastered all over, and guess what?? She was smoking and clicking her ashes out the window every 2 seconds and tossed her butt out right after she turned into a local business. I was livid, I wanted to follow her so badly and ask her which part of "go green" she was advocating at that moment. It's not the smoking thing per say, although I don't and don't particularly care for it, but until everyone stops some kind of air pollution I'm not going to point fingers. It's the throwing your butts on the ground wherever you go mentality. If I could stop everytime I see someone toss one out of the car and pick it up and follow them and toss it back in their car and say " I think you lost something, here ya go", I would if it was feasible and wasn't nervous that I would get shot by someone sooner or later. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em ladies! "

whybother wrote on Sep 15, 2009 2:58 PM:

" It will be nice to be able to go in and out of public buildings without having to hold your breath till you get through the smoke cloud. A lot of other goverment agency's are doing this already. "

wondertwin wrote on Sep 15, 2009 12:57 PM:

" I love this law!!! Why should someone with breathing issues have to walk thur a cloud of smoke to get into the bank or library ,or any other public place....and tax the hell out of tabacco products...its only the die-hards and stupid idiots that continue to smoke...which one are you ??? "

guitardude62 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 12:51 PM:

" I'm skipping the smoking thing and moving on to the Labor Day Race thing.
How often does this Labor Day Day Race go on???? Oh yeah,,,, it's on Labor Day weekend, thats the ticket. Yet another example of people living in a town with events, resources, tourism dollars, etc, a once a year event, and a healthy event at that, and they find something to complain about. Pleeeeeeaazzzz. Just like the Weedsport/concert complainers, lets set aside a township where no one lives and have all the concerts and races and get-togethers and whatever else residents find something to complain about and have them there. I don't particularly like the Town of Sennett trucks and the Vitale cement trucks going up and down my street every morning and night either, but they have their business and pay taxes or collect taxes or whatever, so we suffer a little. Oh yea those pesky fireworks going off at the ball field all summer, and what about rt 5 traffic? The Raceway in Elbridge? It seems there's a little noise going on all over the world. Of course those fine upstanding SkinnyAtlas types shouldnt have to put up with that nonsensical race event noise, they pay way too much to have to listen to that crap. Find something more worthwhile to complain or report about. "

genegirl59 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 11:15 AM:

" I don't smoke and I'm not sure where your question concerning Cash for Clunkers is directed or what it has to do with anything. I've seen those statistics before. My thoughts on Cash for Clunkers is that it subsidized people who bought cars with taxpayer dollars. Some of those people bought SUVs, so I'm not sure they all replaced their clunkers with full-efficient vehicles. It gave a boost to car dealers who were in a slump, but now that it's over, expect a huge slump in car sales for quite awhile. "

rmg13021 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:16 AM:

" Keep on smoking then. I'm guessing you thought "Cash for Clunkers" was also a good idea?

A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline. A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year. So, the average clunker transaction will reduce US gasoline consumption by 320 gallons/year. They claim 700,000 vehicles involved with the clunker program, so that's 224 million gallons / year savings. That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil. 5 million barrels of oil is about ½ of one day's US consumption. 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl. So, we all contributed to spending $3 billion to save $350 million. How good a deal was that?
They’ll probably do a better job with health care though!! "

genegirl59 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 10:03 AM:

" rmg: Ban smoking on the planet? How would you enforce that? In this country, maybe we could shut down the entire tobacco industry and give all the displaced workers "green" jobs.....or force GM to employ them. But then where would we get the tax dollars we get from cigarette sales? "

rmg13021 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 9:49 AM:

" Ban smoking on the planet. It's the only product sold to consumers that when used to exact manufacturer's instructions: CAUSES DEATH. "

genegirl59 wrote on Sep 15, 2009 9:28 AM:

" Requiring smokers to stand more than 5 feet from doorways does not seem unreasonable to me. Too bad it has to be a law and could not just be common courtesy. At least Skaneateles realizes the futility of banning smoking in outdoor areas like parks; they are far wiser than the fools proposing just that in NYC. "

monsoon wrote on Sep 15, 2009 8:39 AM:

" I can't believe how far the Politically Correct idiots have demonized Cigarette Smoking ...why not just make it Illegal , and then people will have get their cigarettes on the Black Market along with Heroin , Crack and illegal weapons...that's proven to work REALLY well...just a great way to keep you kids safs...morons...and I am NOT a Smoker , but I find the erosion of Personal Choice is WAY more unpleasent than a burning leaf...and I don't see the politically correct stopping all the buses at the big Football games from idling their stinking engines for FOUR hours !...but , no smoking inside the staduim ! MORONS...TRY Banning NASCAR , that's a TREMENDOUS waste of limited resources and just a mammoth Polluter , more than any second hand cigarette smoke will ever be ! "

spatrx wrote on Sep 15, 2009 7:19 AM:

" Nice and this is still a free country???I may go there just to empty my ashtray!Very Russian-esk Skaneateles Village Board Commrads "

northender wrote on Sep 15, 2009 3:40 AM:

" watchout for the smoking cops,there gonna get-ya "

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