Two Cents

Monday, June 8, 2009 11:23 AM EDT

They say the taxpayers own 60 percent of GM and Chrysler, so can you tell me why a taxpayer would buy a Toyota or Honda? It's like Danny Wegman shopping at Price Chopper -- stupid.



New York is one of the highest taxed states in the country. Have you seen what is going on in the California state budget -- New York may be next.

Everybody in Auburn is not a Yankees fan. There's a number of Mets fans of which I am.

The reason we write about Auburn teacher salaries is some people are on a fixed income or don't get 4 percent every year. When people can't afford their property taxes, they leave the state.




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coach7811 wrote on Jun 17, 2009 5:51 PM:

" David that is one of the BEST ideas I have ever heard! "

auburn~no~class wrote on Jun 17, 2009 5:37 PM:

" it went from shooting to Bicyclist
knocked down, beaten at the auburn dam on mill st ok so whats wrong with auburn now hell if i know even tho its 2 different things it still someone getting hurt!!. "

daviddelker wrote on Jun 17, 2009 5:09 PM:

" A really good place to start with drug enforcement is to randomly drug test those who receive public assistance. I am not saying that every person who is on public assistance is on drugs, my feeling is that they should all be tested regardless--if found to be positive, they lose benefits for 90 days---2nd offense, they incur a one year loss, 3rd offense, lifetime ban on receiving county, state, and federal benefits-- It would probably scare many of the dealers "customers" into not using drugs. Secondly, if a dealer is arrested, I believe that he/she should receive a lifetime ban on receiving any gubment benefits, along with anyone residing with them if they had knowledge of the delaing. Thirdly, we need to relax the regulations on evidence collection. Many times, law enforcement does not act until they have enough evidence so that the perp doesn't get off on one technicality. Or, they are scared that they do not posess enough evidence to make a charge stick. Lawyers are dirtbags in general, but are obligated to serve their client to best of their ability. Sometimes, they get people off that shouldn't be let go because the law enforcement is caught by a technicality. "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 17, 2009 12:49 PM:

" Where do I sign up for a neighborhood patrol group?? "

cm wrote on Jun 17, 2009 10:20 AM:

" bone, I know Seymour's not the only street, and I so disagree with waiting for drug enforcement to deal undercover for years in 'hopes' to catch the bigger fish...they should leave that ideal to the Feds.

the worst problem I see in NY starts with the laws, basically they are LAX!
drugs and sex offenders receive alot less YEARS than here in FL.

the second woe is the judges, they have the power to GIVE THE MAX!!!
they should start to be known for 'THE MAX, not the LAX'

as I have said eons ago on this subject,
I would post signs at the city limits:
Auburn, city of THE MAX!

Bone, you seem to be a concerned city tax payer, look into starting a petition to toughen the laws.

Petition, write letters, protest and demand the judges give THE MAX! "

cm wrote on Jun 17, 2009 10:08 AM:

" FS II wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:47 AM:
that would be a GREAT idea!!!!

do you think the state isn't doing that because the NG would need extra 'combat pay' ????? "

FS II wrote on Jun 17, 2009 9:47 AM:

" Maybe the state should activate the MP unit of the local National Guard. They could patrol Washington St. from Genesee St. north to the end of Washington St. and all streets East and West off Washington St. Its like a combat zone anyway. "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Jun 17, 2009 8:07 AM:

" Just another reason why I left that neighborhood. Personally, I think the bail amounts were very cheap. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 17, 2009 7:40 AM:

" One disturbing aspect of the shooting story is that this woman used the fact that she'd had her back window shot out as justification for taking these kids back over to shoot up the other people -- she figured that since they'd shot at her car the "reasonable" response was to go shoot them instead of calling the authorities. What is this, the Wild West?!?? "

The Bone wrote on Jun 17, 2009 6:43 AM:

" That is not the only block that has a drug house on it. On Delevan St is a know drug dealer and the cops don't do anything. They told me it could take 5 years to get him. I told them that kids live there and the answer was I know. What do we do!!!!! "

cm wrote on Jun 16, 2009 11:17 PM:

" the sad thing about that corner is kids have to walk that way to get to casey park school.
I used to have to walk --
up hill--
5 miles(just kidding)--
in the blinding snow--
(the story I tell my kids-lol)

to get to school and back home!
passing that corner 2ce a day!
for both 4th and 5th grade, walking alone!!!!

I cant imagine any child doing that today BUT I know it happens, and exactly what is city doing about it?? "

nature lover wrote on Jun 16, 2009 9:42 PM:

" I agree cm..definantly drug related in every way. That particular corner is a roundabouts crack house area and I am sure the cops have all they need for the DA. Just keeping it out of public eye till full charges can be made. That 52 yr old chick is VERY scary... "

cm wrote on Jun 16, 2009 7:06 PM:

" This Seymour St. shooting keeps getting crazier by the day!
Prior to the shooting the 52 yr old lady states her back window was shot out..why didn't she report it to the police?
how did she have over 20 grand cash for the bailout of one person and herself on her detention salary?

no doubt druggies shooting druggies for monies owed or territory rights!!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 16, 2009 1:40 PM:

" I try to be that way too, FS II, though sometimes I find myself getting sucked down into it -- not too badly, I hope. And like anyone I have my pet peeves or things that make me mad. "

cm wrote on Jun 16, 2009 1:39 PM:

" Conservative wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:17 PM:

guessing on 787 billion dollars that failed, should be punished!

maybe the 300+ should pay it back themselves! lol "

cm wrote on Jun 16, 2009 1:37 PM:

" moved south, I agree..jokes are jokes especially in politics..BUT the decent thing is to leave kids out of it.

Letterman himself would not like his son to be subject to someones elses jokes.
I am glad he apologized..now the issue should go away..we know it won't in the media's eyes, but it's done/over with in my eyes. "

FS II wrote on Jun 16, 2009 12:08 PM:

" FG, maybe right to a point, but he has no respect for others, right or wrong with your opinons or anybody elses, I respect you for your opinons, I will not belittle you or bash you, may not agree with everybody on this site, but I will RESPECT them. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 16, 2009 11:21 AM:

" Actually, I think he stirs things up and brings out the worst in his opponents -- and vice versa just as well. I guess some people are just born catalysts.... "

anonymous wrote on Jun 16, 2009 10:48 AM:

" It has been nice with the neighborhood bully absent, but be careful or his posse will jump on you. "

FS II wrote on Jun 16, 2009 8:23 AM:

" Has anybody noticed how nice and peaceful its been on here the last couple of days? There's been no sniping, belittling, name call,bullying or any other nasty negitive comments directed at anyone who doesn't share a certian person beliefs or opinons. The last couple of days of comments on here have been refreshing, people comment back and forth and are civil to each other, and respect each others opinon, and you don't have to worry about being ridiculed. It's amazing how one persons absents can change the whole attitude of others. Have a great day and keep the comments coming. "

movedsouth wrote on Jun 16, 2009 7:34 AM:

" Letterman has now apologized. He did the right thing, it should be dropped now. "

daydreamer wrote on Jun 16, 2009 6:28 AM:

" I read up on Karls comment in the sunday paper. I can only assume that people regard it as hate filled because they could care less about a homegrown terrorist action as long as the end justifies the means. "

Conservative wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:17 PM:

" WASHINGTON -- Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday that "everyone guessed wrong" on the impact of the economic stimulus, but he defended the administration's spending designed to combat rising joblessness.

Hey, look at it this way, it was only $787 Billion. Maybe they should guess again. "

Conservative wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:10 PM:

" Oa, maybe I should put it this way, how do you feel the economy was during the first 6 years of Bush? "

Conservative wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:04 PM:

" Oa, Looks like you just confirmed what I said. Obama said that the economy was good when he started campaigning, the decline started about the time the Democrats took control of Congress. See, we do agree on something, the economy was strong for the first 6 years of Bush. Do you disagree with Obama's take on the economy when he started campaigning? "

Oa wrote on Jun 15, 2009 6:45 PM:

" "Conservative"... Hell, the primaries started almost a year before the election. The campaigning started WAY before that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Obama fanatic, I'm just hoping he's a heck of a lot better than Bush was. Heck, my cat would've been better than Bush. "

excnyer wrote on Jun 15, 2009 4:23 PM:

" movedsouth,
I read the Bill Maher article and I totally agree with what he has to say. I'm getting tired of seeing Obama's face everywhere. I think Obama has seen the movie "Titanic" way too many times because he believes he's "king of the world"! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 15, 2009 1:35 PM:

" Long or short -- typo.... "

movedsouth wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:43 PM:

" I found this article by Bill Maher in the LA Times. He's not a big fan of Bush, but he's starting to question Obama.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-maher12-2009jun12,0,7966784.story "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:35 PM:

" One never knows how long --or shirt-- a time a letter to the editor will remain posted online. I daresay Karl's letter was there last time cm looked. After all, Sunday was just yesterday. "

Unknown... wrote on Jun 15, 2009 12:30 PM:

" I'm with you, cm!!! LOL!!! "

cm wrote on Jun 15, 2009 11:40 AM:

" after a beach day: I am redder than a cooked 'rare' steak! Yes, I know bad for me, no sunscreen.
the only part that hurts are my shoulder blades..so bras are out! they should be outlawed anyways! lol

I see Obama plans to talk to doctors about his healthcare plan--would that be all 100 million of them?
or just the hand-picked ones that Kennedy choose???? "

The Bone wrote on Jun 15, 2009 11:03 AM:

" daydreamer wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:38 AM:

" Are cm and the bone commenting on the Religion has no place in makeing state laws letter to the editor by Brian Coghlan? I do not see a letter sent in by Karl. "

Karls letter is in the Sundays paper. "

movedsouth wrote on Jun 15, 2009 9:47 AM:

" Chris Dodd talked about the health care plan being considered. Family of 4 making under $110,000/year could get health care subsidy. Family unit making less than 500% of poverty level could get subsidy. I'm not sure, but I think MA uses 300% and is finding it's costing more than planned. "

movedsouth wrote on Jun 15, 2009 9:03 AM:

" The war on terror is no longer. What the hell are "overseas contingency operations"? "

nature lover wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:44 AM:

" Excellent choice, cm, to call UHC (United HealthCare)... "

daydreamer wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:41 AM:

" The "economy" has been a joke ever since we were removed from the Gold standard during the Nixon administration. The elitist robbed Fort Knox, and we now live thrive on an economy based on nothing. "

daydreamer wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:38 AM:

" Are cm and the bone commenting on the Religion has no place in makeing state laws letter to the editor by Brian Coghlan? I do not see a letter sent in by Karl. "

Conservative wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:08 AM:

" The economy started the rapid decline with the Democrats in control of Congress. Obama said in his 100 days speech that the economy was reasonably sound when he started campaigning. Sounds like Obama agreed with Bush's crew. "

Oa wrote on Jun 15, 2009 4:35 AM:

" "Conservative", I stand corrected. Although the market started its rapid decline during Bush's term, it DID bottom early in Obama's term, but it's been going up steadly since then. I also seem to recall that during the market's decline (in Bush's term) Bush's crew kept saaying that there was nothing wrong with the economy, although the non-Bush crew claimed the economy was in trouble.
You said the complaint against Bush was the war, and seemed to forget the complaint about the economy which Bush's crew said was fine. "

anonymous wrote on Jun 14, 2009 10:53 PM:

" Cooking on a gas grill is not even close to bbq. It is just cooking outside. "

cm wrote on Jun 14, 2009 10:07 PM:

" I watched some dopey (Dem) senator lady on TV, while channel surfing..
the subject was health care.

She says, "what difference is it if the government tells you what doctors to see or Aetna tells you?"

my response was easy, "I can tell Aetna to kiss my behind and call Blue Cross or United Healthcare...
OPTIONS, LADY, OPTIONS!" "

The Bone wrote on Jun 14, 2009 1:54 PM:

" CM I agree with you same old lies and feelings. I disagree with him, thats nothing new!!! Everybody Have a Blessed Sunday and remember God loves you. "

Conservative wrote on Jun 14, 2009 10:14 AM:

" Oa, If you remember, I said that the economy was good the first 6 years of Bush. It started to drop when the Democrats took control of Congress the last 2 years of Bush's term. I also stated that I do not blame it on the Democrats, it was greed and the housing market.

MAYBE YOU should check and see what the stock market actually did in the past year. FYI it bottomed during Obama's term. Tell it like it is!

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DJI "

daviddelker wrote on Jun 14, 2009 9:42 AM:

" What if Letterman's comments were directed at one of the Obama girls? All of you idiotic Bush haters (by the way I dislike Bush AND Obama) would be marching with Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton, because it would be turned into a racial thing too. Put the shoe on the other foot instead of practicing double standards. Heck, I really do believe that Letterman WOULD be out of a job if it were directed at the Obama girls. He would not have been able to offer a ridiculous apology, he would have been out--period. "

cm wrote on Jun 14, 2009 9:02 AM:

" I am not even going to respond to Karl's letter to the editor--same 'ole words just a different day!

BBQ? my grill is covered with some vines! It's old and I am deathly afraid to 'light' grills...
my sis bought me a fancy george foreman, about 4 yrs ago Xmas..I have yet to use that too..my son has one and loves it!

yesterday, went for a short jaunt to FRIENDLY's...enjoyed a 'delish' sundae, and stopped at beachy area off the main road..my daughter collected a bunch more shells that I haven't a clue as to what she'll do with them
(add them to her bags 'n bags full?)

spending the day with my sons today--my kind of Sunday! "

Oa wrote on Jun 14, 2009 4:51 AM:

" Perhaps "Conservative" should take a look at when the Stock Market bottomed. It bottomed during Bush's term. It's been creeping upwards since Obama took over. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 13, 2009 6:31 PM:

" Barbecuing, huh? OK -- how come Wegman's Menu magazine only has directions for grilling on a fancy expensive gas grill? What about those of us who only have a charcoal grill? Half those recipes don't translate. I'm getting better at it, and successfully grilled chicken kabobs today, but sheesh. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 13, 2009 6:29 PM:

" Led Zeppelin is way beyond "heavy metal" -- there's no comparison, they are utterly in a class of their own. "

movedsouth wrote on Jun 13, 2009 6:23 PM:

" Detainees, Chinese, released in Bermuda say life in China was worse than Gitmo. But, I think, Bermuda would be better than both. "

nature lover wrote on Jun 13, 2009 5:51 PM:

" Going to c Full Monty - I luv the Merry Go Round Theatre!! "

cva62 wrote on Jun 13, 2009 5:23 PM:

" RE: Danny Wegman at Price Chopper. Hey! A certain auto mall owner in Auburn drives a Beemer!
RE: California budget in NY. So, how can we stop it?
RE: Sports fans. Not everyone in Auburn is a SPORTS fan. Can we talk about barbequeing instead?
RE: Teacher's salaries. Perhaps we should all become professional educators so 4% pay raises would make perfect sense. "

excnyer wrote on Jun 13, 2009 1:21 PM:

" scouty wrote on Jun 13, 2009 11:54 AM:

" is'nt it pleasant that karl is on tour with his "heavy metal" band in europe.
god bless him. "

Yes, life is good again!
I thought "heavy metal" music was a thing of the past. Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, where are they now? Ozzie is making commercials; Robert Plant is singing with Alison Krause, and Alice Cooper is giving speeches at college graduations! "

cm wrote on Jun 13, 2009 11:54 AM:

" we all know I am not an Obama fan, my reason is simply his changing of words/actions from day to day..

I am also not a fan of his 'friends'...denouncing does not mean you'll never call them again!

everyone just blames the President, when the truth is--its ALL of them!

the latest is this awesome energy bill...which 'porked' drilling more off Fl. shores.
I am not against drilling BUT, as I have looked up info:
the funds are NOT there for these big rigs, which cannot even be made for about 5yrs..
along with the ships to haul the oil cannot be manufactured for 5-8 yrs out.
And thats if china doesnt order theirs first!! USA wait could be 19 yrs out.

these needed itms for drilling, arent even available NOW, for what has been drilled recently/or in the next 2yrs.

why not deal with one issue at a time--better energy yes! ...porks no!

what are the real cause/effects of putting so many HOLES into the earth??? "

scouty wrote on Jun 13, 2009 11:54 AM:

" is'nt it pleasant that karl is on tour with his "heavy metal" band in europe.
god bless him. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 13, 2009 11:45 AM:

" The idiots in Albany have disrupted the work of the government so much than doofuses like Finch have too much time on their hands. For lack of anything better to do, they go after a late-night comedian for a bad joke in poor taste (which, after all, is exactly what all late-night comedians do for a living!) Letterman has already apologized, and even without the apology it was clear that he meant the 18-year-old, not the 14-year-old and his staff are the ones who failed to inform him which daughter was at the game. Rodriguez has enough class to not grace the whole thing with any response at all, which is the sensible way to view the whole thing -- until our government officials start wasting tax payer money on the whole stupid thing instead of doing the job for which they are paid. "

Conservative wrote on Jun 13, 2009 10:31 AM:

" I have to laugh at the Bush haters. When Bush was in office, the complaint against Bush was the war. Now he is out of office and EVERYTHING is his fault. Obama now owns the economy, let's see how he handles it. "

pentangelli wrote on Jun 13, 2009 6:21 AM:

" GARY FINCH and his GOP cronies want to continue GW Bush's attempt at rewriting the Constitution.This whole debacle regarding Letterman and Palin is laughable at best and patience-trying at best..... Satire, Free-speech, one's opinion should not be mixed in with the "political correctness" HORSE HOCKEY. Get off you soapboxes and try to correct the garbage and headaches that have originated in Albany under your so-called "GUIDANCE" "

cm wrote on Jun 12, 2009 1:16 PM:

" thanks BLD!
my daughter wants to replace Tia with a german shepard..she scopes the local animal shelters/rescue groups daily!

we still have 2 other mini-dachshunds.
a male that is 12 and a female-10 yrs.-that is my daughters dog.

also 4 cats, a bunny, a gecko, a turtle, and 1 lonely goldfish.

can you tell my child wants to be a VET?

for sure I will not allow another bunny, he eats way too much, and I hate cleaning his cage...BUT he and the cats love to play together!
I have one of those tall cat tree houses, this goofy rabbit will use the scratching post and play with the dangling toys....
maybe he thinks he's a cat!? lol "

horseradish wrote on Jun 12, 2009 12:43 PM:

" i bought a toyota because i wanted a car that worked. "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Jun 12, 2009 12:14 PM:

" Sorry about your Baby, CM. I have gotten that same poem from my Mom. I like it.

Yeah, what is up with that shooting???

Gotta love a town that allows the inmate's family to terrorize it. "

cm wrote on Jun 12, 2009 11:28 AM:

" secretsout, my daughter went fishing last weekend.
she caught several huge catfish, and 2 stingrays... "

cm wrote on Jun 12, 2009 10:42 AM:

" yesterday, well for 8 weeks, I have badly needed my lawn mowed..not being able to physically do it myself, I caved to calling someone..

I am a believer in supporting the locals, so I in our 'flyer, I found a local number..he was here in about 15 minutes, gave me an estimate, and said he could do it NOW!
I was a happy lady!!!!

ironic he said he placed the ad, with the local number/plus his cell, just for that reason..
hoping locals would support locals!
it worked....for both of us!

so if you are in need of a service--
LOOK LOCALLY FIRST! "

secretsout wrote on Jun 12, 2009 10:37 AM:

" It's a good weekend to go fishing. "

cm wrote on Jun 12, 2009 10:37 AM:

" FG: very funny!!!

I am amazed that there's been so much media on this subject, yet the majority are NOT ready!

the only thing I have yet to replace is the plug in TV for the car, so when the power is out, I can still get TV in the van! "

cm wrote on Jun 12, 2009 10:32 AM:

" Gator, I am not a fan of State Farm in any way shape or form!!

the second they did their cancellations, IF I had a CAR insured by them I would have drop THEM immediately!
every FL. resident, should drop THEM for any type of coverage, and give back to them what they did for homeowners here..

who in their right mind would turn down the money? that would have to be a moral judgement..

I am still suffering from a section of my neighbors tree that damaged my roof..He was NOT insured, so going thru my insurance has not been fun. Because I am inland I dont need flood, nor do I have flood...BUT water damage inside the walls IS considered flood!?!?!

the tree service said the tree was dead, eventually the rest would come down, 50/50 on my house..
the insurance company said: if THIS tree damages my house in another storm, they will not pay!
so to STOP a future 50/50, we paid 1400.00 to take down my NEIGHBORS tree..
(he doesnt work, blah blah blah)

the FLOODing as they called it, destroyed a whole room (which had to be torn down completely),
most of my pantry,
and structural walls in the family room...about 40-50grand in damage, insurance company paid only 4 grand!
errggggggg...

This year I am adding FLOOD..all the calls I make on quotes: "mrs.cm YOU DONT NEED FLOOD, you're not in a flood zone"
CM says: what you think I need, and what I want are two different stories!

I have been here for 12 yrs..same house..same insurance..only this one claimed filed...they ALL love to take our money but hate to pay out! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 12, 2009 10:17 AM:

" I'm ready for digital -- since I have no TV, that makes it really easy! "

Gator wrote on Jun 12, 2009 8:35 AM:

" cm - I live on a barrier island on the East Coast and can assure you my premiums are quite high. I also own other homes which are inland. All have been affected by at least one hurricane and not once did I recieve aid. I personaly know of many with the ocean view on one side and river on the other who did not recieve any aid to rebuild their homes. Now State Farm has refused to insure any of us because State Farm Florida over insured themselves, rather ironic. BTW this was not a personnal attack. Do I think it right for the mega wealthy to recieve aid, no but do I think there is anyone out there who would have turned the money down, no again. "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:01 PM:

" is the news serious???
are the majority of people NOT ready for the digital TV switch??? "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:00 PM:

" gator: begrudging? tax payer dollars are 'taking care of them' because I live inland and still can get hit yet inlanders are ignored!
Plus I have to pay more so they can have a view!

If they have to be self-insured then it's their choice for their view.
If I have to pay more because I live in the state, then my choice too,

BUT I dont 'really' get a choice on my tax dollars!

for instance, Madonna has an ocean view home, her home qualifies for the FREE government upgrades....she only one of many. "

Gator wrote on Jun 11, 2009 9:08 PM:

" It was actually high levels of Formaldehyde, guess that's why I didn't get it. cm isn't a little harsh to begrudge those on the ocean. In reality most are self-insured because no large insurance company that I know of will insure you if you are within 1000 ft of the ocean, many are elderly who bought years ago. Having been through 34 years of hurricanes I don't think I could ever not feel sorry for those who are devastated. "

Unknown... wrote on Jun 11, 2009 7:36 PM:

" excnyer, I'd be willing to bet that was the case. The ones that haven't been caught yet. "

jonathan dough wrote on Jun 11, 2009 4:24 PM:

" racist - one who boasts that she is wiser than a white male, because she is latina. "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:48 PM:

" speaking of knee replacements, I have to have both done, but they told me I was too young at 32, too young at 40, and still too young at 47...

how old do I need to be??????

same with my sis who wanted her tubes tied, she didnt have kids, and didnt want to have any kids!
she was too young at 25, again at 35, and still at 45!!! "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:44 PM:

" the trailers did have asbestos.
Living here in a hurricane state, I know it takes years to rebuild.

BUT I am actually sick of hearing the HURRICANE, it wasn't Katrina, that caused the damage, it WAS the levies!

It's hard for me to feel sorry, when most didn't have homeowners insurance and I pay HIGH amounts to insure my home.
I can't understand rebuilding UNTIL the levy situation is under total repair!

along with HAVING a better plan for such storms or horrific events.

I know many blame the federal level for what they say 'wasn't done' BUT it really was the state level and below, that 'cut off their borders' isolated their state or simply ran away themselves.

in my own backyard, I can't understand why millions of tax paying dollars are given for free, to those with an ocean view, for hurricane upgrades/repairs!
You know as well as I do, if they have an ocean view, they can afford their own repairs/upgrades!

the government acts as if the inland areas don't need, when it was mostly the inland areas that suffered greatly in 2004, with 4 hurricanes that came thru back to back!

I agree we can never prepare enough for happenings of Andrew's, Katrina's, or 9/11's.....But we can use monies more wisely on levies, home buildings, and insurance coverages. "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:31 PM:

" Drug dealers are GREAT. They steal from eachother, then when one gets picked up- he rats out the others to save his own a$$. Priceless. "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:22 PM:

" CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:57 AM:
I am not surprised! when I was there, in broad daylight I watched the dealer come out on Van Anden st, walk to the car that honked, got his cash and went back in his house--
SADLY a person who 'saves lives' for a living! "

excnyer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:19 PM:

" Regarding the recent shooting; I'm just wondering if the Auburn resident is originally from the NYC area and has connections with someone residing at the State Street Hotel. Auburn should have never allowed inmates families to reside in Auburn! "

excnyer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 12:16 PM:

" ANGMOM3
My Mom's friend had both knees replaced (not at the same time) and has not had any problems. Good luck with your surgery and wishes for a speedy recovery. "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:57 AM:

" cm- yup, drugs. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:19 AM:

" CayCntyLifer -- I caught that too, but decided to let it lie. There are too often accusations of racism where it really isn't -- but this time, subtle though it was, I think I'd agree. At first I thought it was just prejudice against the poor, but then the deliberate and sarcastic grammatical malformation was the tip off for a more specific prejudice. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:13 AM:

" Asbestos -- a lot of those FEMA trailers were found to have high levels of asbestos (I think it was asbestos -- some toxin anyway). "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 11:05 AM:

" daydreamer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:37 AM:

being tasered is better than being shot!
I am not sure where the fine line is to taser someone...BUT DAH to the idiots who simply cant accept they are wrong, GET your ticket and drive on!

my daughter and I have been watching alot of TRUE TV channel, we are in awe over the dumb things people do.
Operation Repo, has to be one of the best!
shouldnt it just be simply, you didnt pay your car, let them do their job, and YOU clean up your business if you want it back??!! "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:56 AM:

" ANGMOM3 wrote on Jun 10, 2009 10:04 PM:
GOOD LUCK!
my mother-in-law had it done last year, she had a rough start moving around at first, but a great outcome.

small note: she hated not being able to have clean hair, while all bandaged & unable to really shower..I saw at walgreens a box of these packets you just open, wash on, without water...
you may want to send DAD for some.. "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:51 AM:

" CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:58 PM:

maybe you need to tell us what you heard, since the paper is lacking in info! lol
my guess would be drugs.. "

cm wrote on Jun 11, 2009 10:50 AM:

" excnyer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 8:13 PM:

thanks! I plan to print that out and frame it, and keep it by her ashes. "

daydreamer wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:37 AM:

" A 32 year old male with mental health issues in Utah was tasered for not following orders after being pulled over and died from being tasered. A Texas officer tasered a 72 year old woman for speeding in a construction zone (a clip can be seen on DemocracyNow.com). Can't wait for the A.P.D. to make the new's. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:16 AM:

" Oops! I misread -- I thought ANGDAD was having the surgery. Well, everything I said, but about yourself -- have a successful surgery and heal fast! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 11, 2009 8:15 AM:

" Good luck to ANGDAD -- make sure he does his PT diligently as soon after the surgery as the doc says -- that's the key to a successful knew replacement. If you do your PT faithfully, it'll be better than new. (If you don't, it could be like it was for my ex-mother-in-law, who had to have both knees done again a few weeks later because they had seized up -- this is not a surgery to rest, it's a surgery to keep moving).

Listen to his Doc, make sure he does his PT -- and you'll have him out dancing in no time! "

nature lover wrote on Jun 11, 2009 6:54 AM:

" GoodLuck, ANGMOM3 medicine is amazing now - u will be up quick and the bum knee will be a distant memory soon... "

nature lover wrote on Jun 11, 2009 6:53 AM:

" Hey BLD..yup long time here anyway. I try to avoid negative at all costs! And this site has become the capital lol. I keep up with ya on MS but FB is where I am heavy - one day u will sign up. Happy to hear about your move, your impending nups, your dog is happy and the band connections. Sounds like all is good. We could be better but I seem to run life cycles every 10 yrs and that time is now...Happy Day to ya ;>) "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 10:37 PM:

" GoodLuck, ANGMOM3! "

ANGMOM3 wrote on Jun 10, 2009 10:04 PM:

" Greetings all!
I'm packing my suitcase to go experience the joy of total knee replacement in Syracuse on Monday. ANGDAD3 and I went out to dinner this evening, I'm having Happy Hour with friends tomorrow and also on Saturday, and dinner with family on Sunday.

Thank goodness for the extensive support system of family and friends. I am so fortunate in that area.

I hope you all are enjoying the beautiful weather, and continue to have fun posting and debating.

Please wish me luck.

ANGMOM3 "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:58 PM:

" There was a shooting tonight, can't wait to read about it. I want to know if what I've heard is correct. "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:56 PM:

" Conservative, take your racist comments elsewhere. Yeah, I said RACIST. It may be subtle enough to go over other peoples heads, but not mine. "

Conservative wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:26 PM:

" Gator, and the reason you would like to see me live for 6 mos. without electricity is? "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:19 PM:

" Hey NL!!!! Long time! "

Gator wrote on Jun 10, 2009 8:58 PM:

" FG - I don't get the asbestos removal comment. "

Gator wrote on Jun 10, 2009 8:34 PM:

" Wow NYer's talking about what life is like after a hurricane. What about the FEMA workers who came in and offered the elderly, who had no families to watch over them, $50K for ocean front property telling them their insurance would never pay to reconstruct their homes. Totally false if you have a reputable insurance. I'd love to see you, conservative, living for 6 months without electricity and safe drinking water. I have no sympathy for those who refuse to leave and then expect everyone else to take the blame but there are many who are in the same situation as those in Auburn that cannot afford to pay all of the deposits required to move in to a new place. I went through Andrew, thank God I had State Farm because I had over $75K in damages to my home. Then we had the northerners coming south work and I'm ashamed to say they were gouging the heck out of people who had no choice but to pay if they wanted to get back into their homes. Fixing up an area that has been destroyed by a hurricane is not a quick fix, even with insurance it takes years. "

Conservative wrote on Jun 10, 2009 8:16 PM:

" As long as it is free, they don't aks about the asbestos. Why buy for $1 when you can live for free. "

excnyer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 8:13 PM:

" cm....this is for you. Sorry to hear about your puppy.

Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.
All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 10, 2009 7:18 PM:

" You also get to pay for the asbestos removal from those trailers yourself. "

scouty wrote on Jun 10, 2009 6:50 PM:

" rock on garth "

Conservative wrote on Jun 10, 2009 6:42 PM:

" FEMA offers Katrina survivors trailers for $1. NO NO NO, you mean I gots to pay my own utilities. "

movedsouth wrote on Jun 10, 2009 4:19 PM:

" GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! "

Conservative wrote on Jun 10, 2009 3:26 PM:

" AP article today.

The federal budget deficit soared to a record for May of $189.7 billion, pushing the tide of red ink close to $1 trillion with four months left in the budget year.

The rising deficit reflects increased government spending due to the recession, and billions of dollars spent on bailouts for banks and other troubled companies.

The Treasury Department reported Wednesday that the red ink so far this year totals $991.9 billion. The administration is projecting the deficit for the budget year that began Oct. 1, will total an all-time record of $1.84 trillion. That would be more than four times the amount of last year's record deficit.

Because of the recession, spending has increased for benefit programs such as unemployment compensation and food stamps. Outlays also have risen because of the $787 billion economic stimulus package that President Obama pushed through Congress earlier this year.

The new Treasury report showed government spending totals a record $2.37 trillion through the first eight months of the budget year, 18 percent more than the year-ago period.

At the same time, the economic downturn has cut into tax revenues. The report showed that government receipts total $1.67 trillion through the May, down 18 percent from last year. Rising unemployment and struggling businesses have meant a drop in both income and corporate taxes.

Last month's imbalance compared with a $20.9 billion deficit in April, the first time that happened in 26 years. April is a month when the government normally runs surpluses reflecting tax payments.

The $991.9 billion deficit so far this budget year is more than triple the amount of red ink incurred during the year-ago period.

Under the administration's budget estimates, the $1.84 trillion deficit for this year will be followed by a $1.26 trillion deficit in 2010, and will never dip below $500 billion over the next decade. The administration estimates the deficits will total $7.1 trillion from 2010 to 2019.

Economists are worried that such large borrowing needs could trigger steep increases in interest rates if domestic and foreign investors start demanding a higher return for holding Treasury debt.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner traveled to Beijing last week to reassure officials in China, the single-largest holder of U.S. Treasury debt, that the administration is serious about getting control of the deficits once the current downturn and financial crisis have passed.

Is there anyway to stop this spending? Obama has pushed spending through without letting anyone know how he is spending it. TRANSPARENCY, a word that he now has forgotten. "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:52 AM:

" In fifty years oil will be no more. Is that what we're waiting for? Keep buying your Hummers! "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:51 AM:

" Can someone explain to me why Lattimore is talking about drilling for natural gas? Is that his new platform? Fossil fuels are soon to be gone. Why aren't we discussing newer and cleaner forms of energy? Impress me, please. "

cm wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:18 AM:

" daydreamer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 7:16 AM:
I don't fret over any Bush comments..
honestly being President is a job I would NEVER want!
I have always thought of the President as the PR person of the USA.
yes, he has some roles only he can say yes too,
BUT overall he has to deal with the 300+ whiney/ greedy/ spoiled brats---(congress & senate)

I love kids BUT...
I haven't a clue as to how teachers do it with 20-60 kids a day BUT....

IMAGINE over 300 a day, PLUS the countries population, and the worlds population!

If I were President --I would have a 3-day weekend vacation EVERY WEEK just to keep my blood pressure at a 'regulated' high! "

cm wrote on Jun 10, 2009 11:08 AM:

" thanks everyone!
Tia was a special joy to have for so long. I knew her time was coming, but it doesn't make it easier, with the exception of feeling in my heart she's no longer 'bumping into cabinets' (shes been blind since Jan.)
I am having her cremated, she will be buried with me someday. Tia had slept with me from the day we picked her up..

when she had her first litter of pups, she was torn between wanting to sleep with me and wanting to be with the babies. Jumping onto the bed, off the bed back to the pups, hours of whining!
I caved to not getting sleep, and put the pups in bed with me, Tia was happy, pups were happy, and I was finally getting some sleep...happy!
That was a fun few weeks!

When I would go out of town, she wouldn't eat, she would sit on my bed and whine! I would actually call her on the phone and talk to her...only then would she leave the bed and go eat.

personally I think as she aged, she only slept with me for chocolate, it's my nightly ritual take some kind of chocolate candy to bed with my hot cup of tea. She could hear a 'wrapper opening' from the farthest point of the back yard!
Dogs arent suppose to have chocolate, actually its certain kinds that will kill them, Hersey Kisses were her FAV.

Her love of chocolate costed us over 800.00 one X-mas when she ate a whole bag of truffles and went into sugar-shock! These truffles were the non-dog killing kind, BUT it was the amount she ate! How she got to them high on a shelf, only she knows!
Being a mini-dachshund, only 6-9 lbs, she didn't let her size stop her from what she wanted to get! "

daydreamer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 9:04 AM:

" Sorry for my last comment, posted it before reading about the loss of a family member. Very sorry and I send my sympathy. "

daydreamer wrote on Jun 10, 2009 7:16 AM:

" George Bush enjoyed more vaction time while in office than any other president. He should have already been well rested when he left office. And, unfortunately when someone is blinded by their own ignorance, even when the truth is presented, it's hard not to get agitated. None is so blind as those that do not see. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 10, 2009 5:32 AM:

" So sorry to hear about your doggie, cm. I know you love those guys and it's awfully hard to lose a long time friend and family member.

It must be a bad time for pets. Tuffy, my sweet orange kitty, stayed out all night, which he isn't supposed to do. Mostly I can get the two who go out to come in at bedtime, but sometimes they are too caught up in a nice summer evening and don't come when I call. He was there this morning -- and has either been bitten or shot in the shoulder. He has a group of bleeding holes (they don't look like a bite pattern, which makes me think birdshot) -- one of them quite large and deep. At least they are wide open, (the one is a good quarter inch across and more than 1/8th inch deep) and running fairly clear fluid in small amounts, and appear clean, but I'll be calling Doc come 8 AM. I know Tuffy had his shots last summer, but think we'll want a new shot of antibiotic and Doc should have a look and give advice. I did pour peroxide on the wounds -- boy, Tuffy did not like that, but I am sure it is good for him, but he just keeps licking, of course, and has washed away a fair patch of his fur all around.

Pets -- you love them, and like children, sometimes they give you joy and sometimes they give you anxiety. Think of all the love you had from Tia -- 14 years is a good long time for her breed, so she had a long, happy life and I hope she went peacefully. Take care! "

Gator wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:43 PM:

" I too am very sorry about your beloved pet. "

nature lover wrote on Jun 9, 2009 6:57 PM:

" So sorry about your doggie cm! they are the nonspeaking members of our family. We r still grieving the loss of our beloved dog who just passed a few weeks ago from a seizure. He was only 7.5 yrs old, just had a complete annual exam with stellar results. Life is too short to bicker and be negative as there is just way too much of it out there without even trying... "

Unknown... wrote on Jun 9, 2009 5:41 PM:

" I'm sorry to hear that cm. I know how I would feel if it were my Border Collie. It would tear me up. So sorry... "

Bobbo wrote on Jun 9, 2009 5:24 PM:

" fight socialism - boycott gm "

movedsouth wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:47 PM:

" Sorry to hear that cm, pets are very special. "

cm wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:44 PM:

" I am saddened to say my FAV dog TIA, mini-dachshund, passed away a few hours ago..
I was blessed to have her in my life for 14 yrs 4 months!

God Bless my "Tia-pet" as I called her, she will be greatly missed. "

cm wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:35 PM:

" karl, have a safe trip...and don't do or say anything that I wouldn't...lol "

auburnnoclass wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:08 PM:

" sorry but some of us just like him have are own opinion he just has a problem with going after other`s weather they agree with him or not and he don`t need to do that. but in ways he`s not the only one that doe`s that some times there are times when he does say something that`s right and i don`t need to say anything i just don`t like when he has a problem with my spelling yes its of a few letters but he don`t need to cut me down about it its not right and its not called for. thank you. "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Jun 9, 2009 4:08 PM:

" Good Luck Karl! Best to the band! Hail to Rhino, too! "

Gator wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM:

" Actually Brew what I've noticed is that many of us who used to partake on this site rarely interject anymore. Stating an opinion is one thing but to beat a dead horse is merely annoying. To be referred to as a minion to Karl gives him far to much credit. Now to have a true debate is one thing, but with Karl the debate always becomes juvenile. "

nature lover wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM:

" brew1234..what a premium statement..summed it up exactly. I dont get on here much anymore and never post anymore as its always the drain swirl. TY! maybe 7 wks is what we all need! I try to avoid negative at all costs now. Happy sunny day to ya'll :>) "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:10 PM:

" Have a great tour, Karl, and travel safely. "

excnyer wrote on Jun 9, 2009 2:07 PM:

" Ahhh, there will be peace in the valley for 7 weeks. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 9, 2009 1:14 PM:

" Thanks for the kind words, brew, and I think you summed it up very well.

I think we are mostly seeing the latest round of Karl vs CM -- they just have this personal antipathy THING where they both flare up above and beyond the issues. I consider both of them to be friends, at least at some level, though like you, I do not always agree with each of them and sometimes take issue with one or both of their approaches. It's why I have mostly stayed out of this one. "

karl the 2nd wrote on Jun 9, 2009 12:51 PM:

" Well, time to go rock the world--Finland, Norway, Paris, Spain, Germany, Romania, and Moscow. (Not bad for a seedling, huh?)

I'll be out of here for about seven weeks, ad I KNOW that you'll all miss me. (THANKS, BREW!!!) ;)

Watch how boring it gets when I'm gone!

Don't worry though--I'll try to weigh in from the road. PLAT NICE, NOW, AND AH'LL BE BAAAAHCK!!!

Love, me.... "

usdwht wrote on Jun 9, 2009 12:49 PM:

" He doesn't bait you he insults and personally attacks you. The forum then isn't dull its civil. "

karl the 2nd wrote on Jun 9, 2009 12:47 PM:

" cm, more verbal semantic gymnastics from our resident "I-Can-Never-Admit-to-Being-WRONG" --especially when you are so PLAINLY SO, and EGREGIOUSLY SO!

Honestly, your posts are the equivalent of prosaic-pretzels. If I could salt them and sell them, I could feed the whole of Africa's starving, They'd probably get SICK from your poisoned rhetoric though.

YOu opined the SICKENING opinion that Gay people DESERVE to die of AIDs because, essentially, they are born Gay.

I know that you see it, I know that you know it; YOU know that everyone knows it too, but your GARGANTUAN PRIDE prevents you from admitting it.

WALLOW IN YOUR SHAME!!!!! "

brew1234 wrote on Jun 9, 2009 12:17 PM:

" You are all pawns to Karl. Almost every post on this forum refers to Karl. He makes remarks designed to bait you into heated discussion and you fall for it every time. This feature should be called "Karl's Two Cents" He is the one who tells it as he sees it and he is unafraid to speak on any topic. When he goes away and doesn't comment this forum is dull! You are all his minions. FG, you are the one that is the exception to this exchange. I disagree with Karl sometimes and agree with him many times but he holds my respect. He is full of himself but that is why I keep coming back for more. "

Unknown... wrote on Jun 9, 2009 12:09 PM:

" And that was a real breath of fresh air from auburn~no~class..... "

auburn~no~class wrote on Jun 9, 2009 11:38 AM:

" hi every one just thought i would stop in and see how things were going o wait should i respell some words i have typed sins some one in here can`t understand what im typing.o and to some in here don`t tell other`s about your life ya never know when there going to ram it up your butt the next time they don`t like what you have to say they will use your past against you. well im of for now see you all later and have a real nice day. "

FS II wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:30 AM:

" FG, not jealous, just my opinon of Karl. Unfair extremes of characterization, Karl is a master at that, I'am sure someday you will be on the receiving end of one of his rants as CM was, reread the first post, June 8,2009 (11:54AM) I have a question for you, did CM deserve Karls rant and raving because CM had the nerve to disagree with Karl? How dare her. "

usdwht wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:30 AM:

" A new GAS TAX, taxing the gas from a cow. Global warming must have run the gamoooot. "

cm wrote on Jun 9, 2009 9:05 AM:

" FG: I know exactly what karl believes,
"the Gospel of karl" ... lol

it simply awes me, how he can turn a one-liner into a hatred of a 'whole' group...when it usually is far from the truth.

He changed the meaning of deserve to murder. Attempting to cause an uprising of liberals/Atheists, to fight for something that was never said to begin with.

Because the original writer choose to use that specific quote of the Bible to mean the writers 'thoughts' of same-sex marriages, for all I know that quote could be from any locale in the Bible meaning something totally different.
(I am sure karl can set me straight on this issue since he knows the Bible word for word)

every instance has a cause and effect, his wrong interpretation could lead some nutcase Gay Atheist to go postal. "

cm wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:57 AM:

" daydreamer, Mr.Bush is finally enjoying a well deserved rest after 8 yrs of being critiqued;
for walking with his right foot leading first,
eating special K instead of oatmeal,
liking pepsi better than coke,

basically, just not listening to the day to day BS that Congress has to say!
Congress alone is enough to 'need a vacation' "

Gator wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:49 AM:

" I disagree FG - Karl made a foolish comment to Kathryn Lopez and I stated an opinion. I believe I was quite kind compared to what he does to others. You are always quick to defend Karl, yet I rarely (yes I have seen a few) see you defend those he unjustly attacks. As for his profession I say more power to him if he can do what he loves and make money from it. "

anonymous wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:44 AM:

" Karl is to Rock Star as seedling is to tree. "

daydreamer wrote on Jun 9, 2009 8:07 AM:

" I don't understand. If Mr. Bush was such a great President, and all of his policy's were effective, then where is he? All I have seen is his lackey, Mr. Cheney, and his wife, Laura, speaking for him. Oh where, oh where, is the great orator now? "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 9, 2009 5:04 AM:

" I can't really hop on either side of this one -- both sides seem to be going to unfair extremes in their characterization of the other.

But I have one question -- why does FS II keep insisting that Karl is not a rock star? Is it jealousy? Strange.... "

cm wrote on Jun 8, 2009 11:03 PM:

" Karl, very true there are 'things' in my life I am very responsible for..and I can accept that...I never claimed to be perfect...
But atleast I am NOT blaming you or anyone else for my past, present, or my future!

Karl says: "You should extend your thinking outside of your little world and try to realize that other people matter in this world as much as yourself. Your depraved indifference to some things is just shockingly IN-humane."

CM SAYS: really karl, everyone matters in your little closet?
you are buddies with druggies?
You are buddies with the bible thumpers on Wegmans corner?
You are buddies to child molestors?

ANY one of these COULD be a victim that has carried it on into their adult life,
or just maybe they were BORN that way...let me ask some of your great 1800-ish scientists.....lol

any indifference/IN-humane thoughts rolling in your head as you lay on your pillow tonight? "

cm wrote on Jun 8, 2009 10:47 PM:

" karl says: "This is CERTAINLY enough to spur on some religious nutcase to murder a Gay person and think it justified"

cm says: This is CERTAINLY enough to spur some 'Liberal nutcase' to cause an uprising on words that were never spoken but he wants his followers to believe and justify THEIR actions!" "

cm wrote on Jun 8, 2009 10:43 PM:

" gee, karl..from what I am reading EVERYONE here isn't thinking the same as you!
hmmmm...I wonder why that is??? "

FS II wrote on Jun 8, 2009 6:49 PM:

" The thing is, you have to see where (I know everthing Karl) is coming from. The problem is he is a middleaged, long haired person who dreams of being a rock star, that won't materialize so he sits on his couch day in and day out and types on his computer hoping to push his inner thoughts and god forbid you disagree with him, he will bash you, call you names(you get the picture)Karl needs to think that he's important, that problem is, Karl shows his true colors when you disagree with him. PATHETIC, I think of Karl "

chris van note wrote on Jun 8, 2009 4:56 PM:

" Hey Gator, Karl is our resident expert on everything, just ask him.

I read this today and chuckled:

President Barack Obama is announcing Monday that he is ramping up stimulus spending exponentially in the next three months, allowing the administration to “save or create” 600,000 jobs — four times as many as during the first 100 days since he signed the bill.

Lemme get this straight, we have the worst unemployment in 25 years (9.4%) and BO is saying that he created jobs in his first 100 days. The US lost 1.6 million jobs since the stimulus was passed, but it would have been 1.75 million jobs lost without the stimulus. I think that’s what BO is saying. They want to run on that platform of course, since unemployment is higher, no jobs have been saved.

The doublespeak is fitting since today is the 60th anniversary of the publication of George Orwell’s "1984". "

Gator wrote on Jun 8, 2009 2:50 PM:

" Karl - just when I think you couldn't surprise you do... Just read your comment to Kathryn Lopez's article. So just how many non-virgins have you married, obviously another topic for which you are all knowing. I also see you have an admirer in the Letters to the Editor section. Tell me exactly how many degrees has it taken you to become so well versed in everything. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 8, 2009 1:44 PM:

" Well said, bgjnmsn! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 8, 2009 1:43 PM:

" There are a number of Yankee fans in Auburn, and a number of Mets fans, and a number of people like myself who don't give a hoot about baseball at all. That's OK, because I am sure there are a number of people who don't give a hoot about the New York Giants either. The question is -- why is it worth writing to the paper about it?

There are a variety of sports fans locally. OK. Your point is...? "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 8, 2009 1:40 PM:

" Why would anyone buy a Toyota or a Honda? Because they are a better investment -- they are made better, have better gas mileage and last longer. My Toyota is 7 years old with 125,000 miles and got 46.22 mpgs on my previous tank. According to KBB, its private party value is over $4,800 and I only owe $750.

Sure, I hope people buy GM cars so the country gets back some portion of the money we sunk in those American automakers -- but I'm not interested, personally, in buying their cars until they start making better ones. Here's hoping they can be FORCED to produce higher quality vehicles in order to convince skeptical consumers like me to choose their products over Toyotas or Hondas, which have a better track record for quality, cost-effective running and long life. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jun 8, 2009 1:36 PM:

" Because you are on a fixed income, you are jealous of teachers because they get raises? You do realize that teachers are not the only employed persons who get raises? This year we didn't, but I am not jealous because someone else did. "

bgjnmsn wrote on Jun 8, 2009 1:03 PM:

" Danny Wegman would shop at Price Chopper if Price Chopper was providing a product or service not provided by his company. He would then take the opportunity to study that product or service and make it available in his stores. That's the problem with GM and Chrysler. For years they have been closed to new ideas. The market moved because Honda and Toyota moved it. Now GM and Chrysler are trying to catch up. We should let them go bankrupt and sell off the pieces to entrepreneurs who can bring fresh ideas and rebuild the industry. "

karl the 2nd wrote on Jun 8, 2009 11:54 AM:

" cm, once again, your semantics dances and beating-around-the-bush show how COMPLETELY F.O.S you are. Blah, blah BLAAAAHHHHH.

You have filled your rebuttal with a lot of superfluous bullship to distract people from the point.

"..murder Gays"--the letter writer quoted the Bible verse which said "...those who do these very things deserve death..."--'NUFF SAID. This is CERTAINLY enough to spur on some religious nutcase to murder a Gay person and think it justified. Your predictable semantic bullship games only shows your arrogant Pride. Grow up.

Furthermore, every other argument you make is similarly FOS, and weak at that.

I have cited facts about the HUGE numbers of heterosexual AIDs deaths; you obstinately see ONLY gay deaths--as if you have some point to make? PFAAHH!

YOu still cling to murky uncertainties about the origins of AIDs as if that proves...WHAT? Do monkeys "deserve" AIDs then, Oh Ignorant One? Hey maybe AIDs came from homosexual monkey trans-species orgies?! PFAAAHH!!

You let your resentment of the Gay Marriage issue corrupt and pollute your brain so that Gays "deserve" to die for that which, to them, is NO DIFFERENT than you loving the persons whom you do.

Your rebuttal is essentially another predictable defense of your own ignorance and inability to say that which EVERYONE HERE can so plainly see--that you are W-R-O_N-G in our facts, in your prejudice, in your opinion (because it is based upon errors and misunderstanding) and that YOU CAN"T ADMIT IT--even though you KNOW it.

You know, cm, I could very well make references to YOU "deserving" certain things in your life that happened recently, and saying that you "deserved" it, and you--and everyone else--would call me foul on it, and deservedly so. You should extend your thinking outside of your little world and try to realize that other people matter in this world as much as yourself. Your depraved indifference to some things is just shockingly IN-humane.

Pathetic. Simply, absolutely P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C! "

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