Housing complex requested in Auburn

By Christopher Caskey / The Citizen

Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:50 PM EDT

AUBURN - Some local residents are concerned about a housing development proposed for a west-end neighborhood.
A number of those residents voiced their opposition Tuesday to the Auburn Planning Board during a public hearing.

The development in question proposes building 30 semi-detached homes and a community building on 8.5 acres off Clark Street and Belmont Avenue. The units would be available to low-income renters, families with developmentally disabled members and those in need of other human services, according to the proposal.

Linda Cotler was one of five local residents who said they were not properly notified by the city or the developers about the project. Cotler, who lives in the neighborhood, said she has already received 70 signatures for a petition against the housing units.

“We're in a position where so many people weren't notified,” Cotler said. “There isn't one person who wants this to go through.”

Some who spoke out against the project predicted the units will negatively impact the neighborhood's quality of life, adding to traffic, noise and light pollution.

Local resident Tony Siracusa told the board he is worried about the people who would be living there. A number of low-income housing units already exist on Belmont Avenue, with “garbage all over the place,” Siracusa said.

“Nobody is going to take care of them,” he said of the proposed units.

The development would consist of two and three-bedroom units, according to the presentation given to the board. Syracuse-based Two Plus Four Companies would manage and own the units, and Cayuga County Homsite Development would be a partner in ownership.

The $6.8 million project would be financed by the New York State Housing Trust Fund, Two Plus Four President Susan Bacon Kimmel said. While the city of Auburn will not provide funds, Kimmel said the developers might still approach the city for payment in lieu of taxes.

Kimmel said the two-room homes would be available to incomes between $12,200 and $16,350, and the three-room homes to incomes between $18,275 and 19,900. But she also said the project does not involve rental assistance, and all tenants more than 18 years old will undergo criminal and credit background checks.

“If they have any felony conviction, they cannot live in these units,” she said.

Kimmel also encouraged residents to take a look at other local housing units her company manages, such as Auburn Heights and Northbrook Courts, and see how the company manages its properties.

Not everyone who spoke during the public hearing was opposed to the project. Seneca County resident Cynthia St. George, who works with the Seneca-Cayuga ARC, urged those listening to consider the people who need those types of developments to have a place to live.

“It's always about 'not in my backyard,'” said St. George, who did not initially attend the meeting to speak at the hearing. “Our consumers need a place to live, too.”

The board took no action on the issue Tuesday, though a vote on the proposal could take place at next month's meeting.

The city Zoning Board of Appeals is scheduled to consider two items related to the project - a request for a zoning variance and an environmental review - at its May 26 meeting. There will be a formal public hearing on the project at that meeting, as well.

Staff writer Christopher Caskey can be reached at 253-5311 ext. 282 or christopher.caskey@lee.net.

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interesting wrote on May 7, 2009 6:17 AM:

" Perhaps the "powers that be" would be against this developement if they were building it in THEIR backyards. "

sick of it wrote on May 6, 2009 7:55 PM:

" thank you Voice of Auburn you took the words right out of my mouth. "

Voice of Auburn wrote on May 6, 2009 7:34 PM:

" What is wrong with low income housing we are all going broke sooner or later ..... 68% of this county is either on welfare ssi ssd or some kind of assistance what you all going to do when they build a homeless shelter in the middle of town or another jail to house all the criminals because they cant make enough to get by so they go out and steal....Wake up people this is Crooked County NY "

cnysucks wrote on May 6, 2009 4:38 PM:

" Well do a background and guess what SO!! I will just have my girlfriend rent it n when i get out of prison i will parole there.. HAHAHAHA!! So now u have a felon living there 3 months after she moved in. "

RosieD wrote on May 6, 2009 1:29 PM:

" Having returned for the summers, to my hometown area of Auburn since my retirement, I am quickly becoming dis-allusioned with the nonsensical decisions being made by both the City & County fathers when it comes to attracting visitors & tourists (probably, the last great hope for the area's economical survival) to say nothing of the way they completely ignore the concerns & wishes of their constituents. This lastest silly boon-doggle has been added in BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS to my con list as I assess the "Pro's & Con's" of continuing my annual summer retreat to the area.
I am very familiar with the area of Clark & Belmont, living not too far from there in the summer & I regularly pick-up a friend on Belmont for social outings in the evening. I'm sure she & her husband must be aghast at this not well thought out plan, realizing what it would do to the value of their well cared for & maintained property on Belmont. I know if this plan should ever come to pass, I certainly would never venture onto Belmont after dark & probably not during day-light hours either.

Vactioning from my current permanent residence in a heavily populated metropolitan area in So. Florida, I know too well how these types of projects effect the quality of life for those who have poured blood, sweat & tears into the pride of home-ownership by endeavoring to maintain their properties and then to lose all their gains to the gains in the pockets of some politicians who make such stupid decisions at the behest of out of state developers.

There are plenty of properties in the City proper of Auburn and in the County that could & should be rehabilitated to serve the needy. But of course, that would take somebody with a back-bone at City Hall & on the 6th floor of the County Office building who is truly committed to their city,county & their constituents instead of the current "what's in it for me" attitude.

To me, a progressive, forward looking administration, in both the city & county would be looking at ways to cure the cancer that is already here, not creating a new source for the spread of more cancer.

To me, a progressive, forward looking citizenry would be demanding that. Remember folks, when you go to the polls you get what you ask for!!! "

sick of it wrote on May 6, 2009 12:56 PM:

" hell i have low income and where i live is nice and clean just the way i like it not everyone is messy. "

bizzaro-world wrote on May 6, 2009 11:07 AM:

" aaahhhh, OK. I finally get it. I aint too bright (obviously). This is a nice little slide of hands real estate thing with some local corruption thrown in. Standard business here. So, exactly which cop, fireman, city councilor, county legislator, school board member yadda yadda has their big fat wallet involved? Their brother? Gosh I am slow. This will work out great. A "private" company is kind enough to build something for the poor hungry children. so righteous. thanks so much. traitors.criminals.pigs.the lot of you. "

interesting wrote on May 6, 2009 10:24 AM:

" oh and for them to say they do background checks is a flat out lie. Their other local housing development has close to a dozen felons living in it. A parole officer at last night's meeting happened to mention that information. Funny how they screened them but weren't aware that they had these people living there. I do not want this in my neighborhood. I take pride in where I live and the condition of my property reflects that. I bought my home because it was in the city yet it had the privacy of the country. I can look out my window and see all types of wildlife in a peaceful location. My view will turn into sneakers hanging over a telephone wire if this housing development goes through. I'm disgusted with the whole project. "

CayCntyLifer wrote on May 6, 2009 9:09 AM:

" Welcome to Povertyville, Slumtown, and Low Income city. I'm not sure what to think. Should I laugh? Should I cry? I don't know. What do you think? Maybe we should hand this project over to Skaneateles, they are in need of some low income housing! "

hoopes_dt wrote on May 6, 2009 8:35 AM:

" Hmmmm... The same conversation that we have been having for 60 years, and only one thing has changed - the construction and design quality of these low-income housing projects has drastically decreased! It is not new information that low-income residencies are ill-kept by both owners and residents! We also know that mixed and variable-income housing units work, while low-income only units do not! We also know that mixed-income developments work best in urban areas with access to pedestrian amenities!

There is little that our neighborhoods and politicians can do to prevent these unethical corporations/organizations from developing in our neighborhoods... They can, however, legally demand accountability for neighborhood influence and legislate accountability for the ramifications of failed housing!

Whoever planned this project located it in close proximity to Fingerlakes mall and the arterial - high-speed access to walmart and other distant corporations. These residents would be better served by proximity to local amenities like Wegmans and the other businesses downtown, rather than sending their tax-exemptions to unethical corporation in Texas.

These two organizations should be purchasing run-down buildings downtown and renovating them for mixed-income tenants.

Save our buildings, support local businesses, and promote embraced diversity! It's not rocket science, paying a little bit more for a strategy that we know works is money well-spent.

Maybe next time the Citizen can announce these public meetings online before-hand? "

FS II wrote on May 6, 2009 8:26 AM:

" Doodles, look where they want to build this complex, then get in to your car and drive around the Clark St., Washington St.,Orchard St. and James St. area. This isn't sterotyping or equating low income people, its call reality. Its every thing you wrote,unkept homes, criminal activity,litter all over the yards.Who is going to really check to see if Felons are going to live in these units or not, I am not rich by any means, but I do have pride in the home I live in and the street I live on, would I want this complex in my back yard? no way. "

interesting wrote on May 6, 2009 8:12 AM:

" yea, they will come alright... to visit Auburn Prison. Why take the bus when they can live here cheaper? "

bizzaro-world wrote on May 6, 2009 8:11 AM:

" doodles13021: I almost cannot type fast enough to reply. You are a school teacher or a soccer mom, correct? must be some form of the ever popular delusional liberal idealists that have brought the USA to a screeching halt. what is this? SURVIVAL OF THE WEAKEST? Take from the strong and give to the weak. Smart, too. It is working so well for us. Oh and don't worry it will be maintained....by 30 more city employees. THIS FARGGIN COUNTRY IS OUT OF ITS MIND. Did you here about the daytime murder at Oak Creek? Do you read the papers? Do you see where the drug busts are? Do you see where all the unemployed, able bodied men shack-up? I simply do not care about symantics here. REALITY. Proven, logical accepted facts are denied. Conventional human existence has demonstrated how GREAT providing all these programs has been. It is great if: you want to sit around and watch Jerry Springer. Give birth to get a raise. Create more and more like-minded offspring. Soon we will have public funded ghettos where all but one tenth of a percent of the people will be conditioned for life to EXPECT support. Works farggin great you imbiciles. NATURE SIMPLY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THIS. Soon this earth will be shed of us. It is trying like heck to vomit us of the planet. Just exactly because of the mainsteam, accepted, spoon fed crap.LAME. Do you see any other species evolving this way? Do you see any other species flipping the finger at nature? WE CANNOT SURVIVE OVER TIME. We got a whopping 230 years as a society in the USA. We cannot possibly see 300 with this moronic conditioning. That is not even a "second" of realtime. There are single celled organisms that out lasted us idiots. "

interesting wrote on May 6, 2009 8:10 AM:

" The fact of the matter is, we don't need yet another housing complex in Auburn. They want to convert multi-unit houses to single family homes yet they feel they can use another housing complex? Build another complex and you are inviting more 'transplanted' people to the area to vist our famous prison. Also, the income level they want in there are poverty levels... not even low income. I don't want another Melone Village or Brogan Manor in my backyard. These people bought their homes on that street because it was a quiet neighborhood. They have already put low income people in some of the houses towards the beginning of the street. And yes, those houses look like trash with their messy yards and their dirty children hanging in the street. If they insist on building this complex, build it somewhere else and leave this neighborhood alone. No one wants it in their backyard. I think the people directly affected by it should have a say seeing as it affects their property value. "

CayCntyLifer wrote on May 6, 2009 7:52 AM:

" If you build it, they will come... "

justventing wrote on May 6, 2009 7:37 AM:

" Well on the other hand, do you see high income people with upkept homes? Is there high criminal activity in their areas? Is there trash in those areas?. Yes I feel it's true what the say about low income areas. "

doodles13021 wrote on May 6, 2009 6:37 AM:

" It always suprises me that folks equate low income people with unkept homes, criminal activity and bringing down the quality of life in a neighborhood. "

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