" Why are county employees not required to live within the county? "

" daviddelker, getting your information from the discredited comedian Rush Limpbaaaaah and the equally silly Drudge report again, I see?

yyyyAAAAAAAWWWN!

You know, you USED TO make at least SOME sense? "

" shame on Senator Dodd----but I'll guess, Karl, that he had a really really really good reason for formulating loopholes to use stimulus monies for pork---the big bonuses paid to AIG---just like Pelosi's garbage pork projects. "

" KARL IS SORRY, THOUGH. "

" Karl be a man? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "

" johnathan dough
The answer to your question is yes, right after BUSH, CHENEY and HALIBURTON give back all the billions they have made on a war that was started by lies and deception!!!!!! "

" oldtimer, I AM SORRY that I don't agree with you ad the other crows. "

" Karl,
Try to be Man and step to the
plate and just say"I AM SORRY"
instead of going around & around "

" wanna waste some taxpayer money
re-try stacy castor
real dumb exercise in futility
we cannot afford to waste the time or the cost of a trial of a person who already will spend the rest of her life in jail. someone try to convince me that i'm wrong, keeping in mind that the bottom line is $$$$$$$$$$$ "

" sick of it, it's never too late to learn.
Sorry, but I've got to believe that if you can learn to use a computer--no small feat, I might say---you can learn to use punctuation. It;s not like you're a bad speller, or have bad grammar; you're just lazy with your punctuation--it's not a mountain to climb.

Sorry, but I think you should T-R-Y..

And here's the ironic thing--all these self-righteous negative naybobs calling me out know FULL WELL that if it were your misfortune to have to have such a disability as to require food stamps, or some kind of welfare or compensation from the State to help you get by, that YOURS TRULY would be your BIGGEST supporter, and THEY would be the ones telling you that you were exploiting or leaning on your disability.

Pooh pooh. Get over it, critics. "

" All these abuses by the ruling class is making a better case for increasing doses of.............. dare I say.........I better not................. SOCIALISM --the dreaded "S" word. Maybe it's time the tax payers "own" a little more than their clothes. We certainly can't trust the private sector and we barely trust the gov't. Is there an entity left, with any influence, that can be trusted? "

" The AIG folks should give back their bonuses NOT dependent on any other factors. Bail out money is to keep companies afloat and prevent further tanking of the economy, not to boost the salaries of the chumps with one of the larger hands in tanking it. "

" Shouldn't Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee since January 2007,and Chris Dodd, the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, be giving up their salaries. These two have been asleep at the wheel while the current financial crisis was happening. AIG employees should give back their retention bonuses when these two clueless "leaders" give back their salaries. "

" Karl the 2nd,your ignorance,out shines your lack of consideration for anybody. You have a disability and don't know it. (Sick of don't let them get you down, there are always certian types of people that have no compassion for others, and you have seen and met some of them on this web site, hang in there.)( Moved south, I totaly agree with you, time to stop reading and posting on this site,) "

" Hey Karl and Farmer's Girl,

Any chance you two are going to the Special Olympics to mock the participants? "

" A learning disability can slow you down, but it doesn't have to stop you, not if you keep patiently working at it.

A case in point on the subject of communication -- when soi said s/he didn't choose to try, that made it sound like the disability story was just that -- a story and not a fact. Again, the importance of being able to communicate your meaning.

Angmom makes an effort -- and it is appreciated. The willingness to try makes all the difference.

Looking back, I do apologize for being so grumpy on the subject -- it is not always a disability that leads people to poor communicators -- much more often it IS laziness and lack of consideration. But I will take soi's word that is really is a disability, and if s/he can keep it in mind that it can be difficult for people to make out his/her meaning if s/he doesn't take time to look back over posts before hitting the send button, then we can go from there.

I wasn't flaunting my education -- someone was giving me a hard time about teaching and I was responding and stating the fact that I do teach.

I taught at Auburn High School as a student teacher as well. It was not an entirely happy experience. For one, I learned I don't have the requisite personality to keep unruly teenagers in line, especially not the last period of the day. I also saw sad things happen which I was powerless to change -- like the young man who had negativity already so deeply ingrained that he would not even put his name on his papers, but just NOT in all caps -- the ultimate expression of negativity. In my short time as his teacher, and with my lack of experience at the time, there wasn't much I could do for him, though looking back, I wish I had gone to the counselors to ask advice or see if they would try to reach out to him as professionals, as his problem was clearly beyond the scope of one student teacher.

I also had an experience where a young man was struggling with a 3-day open book test my first few day on the job. I saw he had only answered 5 questions in the whole class and 3 were wrong, even though he had spent the entire period flipping pages and working. So I caught him before he left and asked if he could come back after school for help. He said he could, but only for about 15 minutes. I said fine, we'll do what we can in the time we have.

So I went to my master teacher to ask what I could do to help this young man. The master teacher said, (and I will never forget this): "Oh, don't bother with [so-and-so) -- he's stupid."

I was stunned. No teacher should ever think that way about a student, not even one who has a learning disability or is slow.

So I was on my own. When the young man came back, I sat down and it didn't take long to figure out that somehow along the way, he had never learned what an index of a book is or how to use one, so he was just flipping pages trying to find answers to the open book test. I showed him how to use an index, showed him a few key grammar charts (this was a German class) and sent him on his way to catch his bus home.

The next two days saw his work improve to almost all correct answers, and he finished the exam with a C+ when he would have had a fail for sure. He wasn't stupid at all -- he just had accidentally missed a bit most people take for granted.

At the end of my student teaching, he wrote me an evaluation thanking me especially for taking the time to work with him -- it was so nice that it made me cry. I still have it -- and often wonder how he made out in life. I tried looking him up online and saw that he had run The Great Race a few times, but it looked like he might have moved away to North Carolina. I hope he is having a good life.

My point is this, soi -- it sounds like you had the bad experience at Auburn and did NOT have a teacher who took the time with you that you needed. I find this to be often true for both students who need extra help because it takes them longer to catch on AND for students who are extra bright and have a whole different set of issues which need attention.

As a person who certified to teach in secondary schools, and who student taught in Auburn in the 80s, I feel especially bad to see evidence of the results of teachers not taking the time to help more. But don't give up -- you are not dead yet. My grandma went back to finish high school at the age of 40; I heard the other day of a lady who went back to get her college degree in her 60s, and I saw a newspaper bit about a guy who was 76 and not only going back to get his degree, but also going out for the basketball team because he still had eligibility left. So be encouraged to break out of your rut -- you don't have to just settle for not being able to communicate well. You may never be a perfect speller, but you CAN learn to communicate better -- you just have to choose to try. "

" Ive worked with folks with several varying disabilities over the last 2 decades. In that time I have learned that they certainly are not disabled, but differently abled, and I point that out to them constantly. Where sick of it struggles with spelling and punctuation, Im sure he/she excells in other areas of life, and certainly more important areas of life than grammer! I have no problem understanding your posts regardless of spelling, grammer and punctuation. Feel free to continue to express yourself any way you see fit! "

" What the hell is wrong with you folks? So, "sick of it" makes typing errors... big friggin' deal. That person already said he/she had a handicap.
What's next? Are you going to complain that some woman with a cane isn't walking fast enough for you?
Grow up! "

" ok i have had enough no i dont spell that good nor do i use ~`!@#$%^&*()_+ so sins we all have to be on top of what we do and word thing.s i ben ask to stay and not to bother with any of you. well its called a learning disability that i have and im sick of you people thinking i can do better i was born with it and had it all my life i went to auburn high school and all they did was rush me never took the time to teach me back then. are you all happy now im done for someone that cane spell to well nor typ that good to the ones that said good things anout my i do thank you it was nice and it made me feel better but im done and i just came here to voice my opinion on thing,s here in auburn that i have seen not about my disability :-( good night "

" FG, I have noticed in the past that you demonstrate a double standard. Case in point: you have a great compassion toward ANGMOM3 because of her diminshed eyesight, you almost protect her, and are concerned about how the new style of print affects her, which is admirable. You also mention 2 people that have physical disabilities which have them almost completely impared, but have learned to cope. I assume that those 2 people were educated during their youth, and became disabled later on in life. But, when it comes to someone with a learning disability, something they were born with, you have no patience for those people at all. Your post yesterday at 9:21 a.m., you begin to poke fun about "the wall". Then your post of 4:52 p.m. this afternoon, you are practially flaunting your education & position at "sick of it". Quite reprehensible, at best. Your last post tonight was quite empassioned about communication, but it would be nice if you used some of that compassion to try to understand everyone that posts on here, and the scope of this little blog, and not be hypercritical of some. In other words, show some patience with people. I agree with what you wrote in your last post, but when it comes to those with learning disabilities, it's a different ball game. This is my last word on this. "

" One last thing to say on this subject, then I'm going to let it go. I have not been trying to criticize sick of it -- I have been trying to encourage him/her to make his/her opinions known and understood so we CAN focus on a discussion of the issues and include this new point of view.

My point is and always has been that if you do not make the effort to make yourself understood you run the risk of being misunderstood and/or entirely ignored. If you care enough to take the time to post your opinion in the first place, surely you must care if you are getting your message across.

My point -- when the spelling, grammar and punctuation are ALL so bad that meaning is lost, you are NOT GETTING YOUR POINT ACROSS -- and that's a pity, because your fresh views would be welcome.

An example -- one co-worker was in a hurry today and sent an e-mail to a woman in my department but left out 3 or 4 words. She was sitting there cussing at her computer when I came by because she had spent several minutes, wasting her time really, trying to decipher what the letter writer wanted. Did he want this, or did he want that, it was totally unclear because he was sloppy in his communication. He wanted her to do something for her, but because he was careless, sloppy and in a hurry, he did not get his meaning across. She first tried to figure it out -- waste of time -- then she had to write him back and ask for clarification -- another waste of time -- and wait for him to write again -- more inefficient wasting of time -- plus he created a whole lot of ill will and aggravation over the time and effort wasted. If he had just taken a little longer to proof his request before sending it the first time, there would have been no time wasted, no irritated co-workers, no nonsense, just the request received and fulfilled.

When talking about political or social issues, the importance of making your position clear is all the more critical. It's not a matter of judging someone's opinions based on his/her ability to express them (though realistically that WILL happen), but rather that the opinions will not be understood, or will be misunderstood, or will be ignored all together -- and as a group we all lose out on having that additional voice in the discussion. When the message is so garbled that the method of expressing them becomes the focus, they are a distraction from the issue at hand -- which must be far from the purpose of the poster who just wanted to talk about the issue. But if they are so bad they are that kind of distraction, that's what's going to happen.

Imagine the international incidents and troubles if our leaders did not take time to express themselves clearly and carefully. We see it happening here on a smaller scale.

Communication skills are worth taking the time to improve -- because, sick of it, we WANT to hear what you have to say, but you have to get it across in some fashion we can actually understand. "

" I have no problem with differing opinions -- and even welcome them -- when I can make out what they are.

Most people I have known who speak English as a second language have learned it more thoroughly and speak it better than many who learned it first-hand.

(sick of it wrote -- I'm not going to try to change -- his/her exact words "im not changeing my ways to make anyone in here happy ill do things the way i ben doing them growing up" -- no one asked him/her to change to make us happy, but rather to make enough effort that we can actually understand his/her point. I would welcome hearing his/her opinions, but I can't make them out!)

No one is trying to run him/her off, just to make enough effort that his/her ideas are comprehensible -- because we WANT to know what s/he has to say -- but as it stands, you can't tell. "

" REJOICE, I will no longer post here, I don't like what I see. Have a good one, HAPPY ST PATRICK'S DAY! "

" ok what ever im here to voice my opinion on thing.s not talk about my disability but to tho.s that were nice to me about it i do thank you so now back to where we were. about what.s going on in auburn lol i just gave the high class hypocrites something to talk about :-) "

" sick of it-please do not let others run you off, you are entitled to your opinion and if takes a couple extra seconds to read your post so be it. It is getting tiresome having some constantly critic posts. They are also always the first to say "If you don't like, don't read it". They are many in Auburn with English as a second language who did not learn proper grammar in school, I'm sure they would be brutally criticized on this site also. "

" Come on People, leave sick of it alone its not for us to judge. "

" karl, all I can say is stupid, arrogant, and ignorant!!!! "

" FG, I guess I missed it where he/she said that an effort would not be made, but regardless, we DON'T KNOW the situation. I stand by what I said, an effort is being made to communicate with us. If you don't like it, don't read the post.


I think we are getting to the point that we feel all should agree with us. I just got through with a round with with brew, he attacks me because of a difference of opinion about the course Auburn should take. We both left Auburn, for one reason or another, and for one to say that the others opinions are wrong, IS WRONG. To say that the people who oppose the theater should "move south" is ridicules. Where are we coming from, it's a slam on me and the people of Auburn that oppose the Kalet theater. We have NO right to slam the people of Auburn for their opinions! "

" sickofiticantreadyourpoststheyrelike onereallybiglongonerunonsentencedoouseehow difficultitistotrytodecipherpostswithout-punctuation? "

" The righteous rise
with burning eyes...

People with handicaps DO try. They have lived with these conditions all their lives. They have already been down the road of trying to overcome, since childhood. Most get to a certain level, and plateau, having reached where they must live the rest of their lives.

It's easy to sit in front of a PC & try to direct someone with a handicap on what to do, and how to do it. We have not been where they have been, and cannot understand what they are facing, and what they have already been through. My wife works with the handicapped, and I have heard some heatrbreaking stories.

Unfortunately, apologies are very hard for people to say on this forum. Perhaps that's a form of a handicap as well??? "

" Movedsouth -- sick of it has already indicated s/he refuses to "make an effort" -- which is a shame, really. "

" Not a matter of making us happy -- it's called COMMUNICATING. If you can't make yourself understood, you aren't, and that's the point.

If change is an option that you are not choosing, then clearly it isn't a handicap you can't overcome -- you choose not to bother to have respect for yourself or others and you choose not to bother to make yourself understood, but rather choose to type stray incomprehensible letters and symbols and submit them here to fill space.

It may be comfortable, but it is also ineffectual.

I do teach, actually -- at Syracuse at the moment. But there is nothing to say people can only learn at school. Any venue may present an opportunity for the "teachable moment" -- but I think it has passed here. Reminds me of a student I had once during student teaching would refused to help himself -- he would write "NOT" in big letters at the top of his papers and would not even try to learn anything. Yes, you can choose to be closed-minded, to not even try to communicate with others, etc -- it's a free country and it is indeed your choice. It's just pretty sad. "

" Lets apply that to school as well. "you do what you think is enough, ok." "

" sick of it, you post the way it's comfortable for you, you should not be criticized for making the effort. Good luck. "

" well like i said i do it my way you all do it your.s if you don,t like it then skip my name and don,t read what i put down and for 1 spelling is part of it if you think you can make us better go to the school and teach us and farmer.s gal im not changeing my ways to make anyone in here happy ill do things the way i ben doing them growing up to bad "

" Yepper. "

" Subtle, yet to the point, eh ms?? "

" sabres, I just stepped back and took a look. "

" MS, if you like, ok. But nothing is being directed toward you. "

" sabres, I still think it applies. "

" brew
My house is assesed for $158,000.
My partners house in Florida is assesed
for $750,000.
I pay more in property and school tax than he does.
I have a client that moved here from Long Island. His house there was $600,000 his house here is $240,000.
He pays more tax here.
I have another client who moved here from New Jersey, his house was $725,000
house here $380,000 and he pays more tax here.
I think we have the 8th highest tax rate per thousand in the country.
That along with our power rates and a multitude of other taxes, makes it very difficult for people to stay here.
Upstate New York has been a depressed area for years and now the rest of the country is catching up with us. "

" farmer's gal, brew, and Karl,

Are you bullies going to go down to the VA and make fun of the veteran's who are "too lazy" to overcome their disabilities?


You three empitomize all that is wrong with Auburn. I hope you are proud. "

" sick of it, I can understand you fine. Dont let those who would suggest your opinion is not important because it is not to their standards get u down. While they may think they are important, the fact is your opinion is appreciated.

If they aren't criticizing, the aren't happy. "

" Of course, you could also use absolutely perfect grammar and still be so cryptic no one has a clue what you're talking about. "

" I'm not talking about Auburn at all. "

" sabres, you're right, look at us out-of-towners trying to say what is best for Auburn. Sorry. "

" Those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves. "

" Not buying it. Just take more time, go more slowly, and proof before sending.

I have a friend with Friedrich's Ataxia, a degenerative muscle disease. He's bad enough now he can't type or even hold his arm steady enough to push a button, but I knew him first online, where no one knew how long he took to slowly and painstakingly type out his messages, check them over to be correct and then send them. No one knew he had a handicap at all, in fact, if he didn't tell them privately.

I had another online friend who was a parapelegic (sp?) who used a mouthstick to type -- not just e-mail, but short stories as well. He eventually landed a job as an editor of a print and online magazine even though he could not move a muscle below his neck.

If these folks can take the time to communicate clearly and at such length, overcoming very serious drawbacks, so can you.

If you know you have trouble getting it right, go back and proof before sending -- if you are taking the time to share your thoughts, why not take the time to insure they will be understood, otherwise you are wasting your time. I couldn't read that last one -- it made my eyes cross so I just picked up on what Karl said about it. "

" sick of it---don't give in to your disability; conquer it.

If you can type this well already, it would seem to me that you could make the simple effort to improve your punctuation.

Don't rest on your laurels yet. "

" Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand; prejudice, ignorance & fear go hand in hand.... "

" to tho.s who had a problem with how i typ thing.s in here its called a disability that i have and i was born with it so im sorry if im not doing thing.s the way you do. the way i see it the people can still read what i do typ so if your done telling me how to do thing.s witch i realy don,t care we can get back to the reason why we leave things in here to begin with thank you "

" The city needs tax revenue to increase and business to prosper. There is no way that Cayuga County has the largest tax rate in the country. Possibly in the state but not the country. First of all the property values are so low that while the rates may be high the total tax is small in comparison to areas with much higher property values. Also that area does not assess property at the full value so that makes rates much higher but bottom line tax bills are not that high in comparison to other areas. Taxes can be held in check by increasing revenues to pay for sewers and other infrastructure repairs. You even oppose the presidents plans to improve infrastructure in his stimulus plan but you list it as a problem. And you are wrong because the development I mention will be the solution to the problems you address. If we stay the course those problems you mention will never be solved. I am refering to attitudes similar to yours and those who would talk negatively about a new theater that would be funded by grants and private funds and would have almost no impact on local tax rates. These negative opinions by residents are the death of plans by any developer that has ambitions of investing in Auburn. I am not talking about a large expenditure but just a more positive attitude towards investment in your home town. I wish that all the negative people would move south with you and I wish you all the best. I have nothing personal against you just your negativity. "

" Don't count on others being able to decipher your meaning out of that jumble. The rules of grammar and punctuation were invented to improve comprehension, clarify meaning and help avoid ambiguity and misunderstanding. If you ignore those rules, you risk people not understanding, or what's worse, misunderstanding. Of course, there is also the annoyance factor -- if a person has to sit and read each word out loud, like tracing a finger along each line, it gets to be too much of a pain to bother, and then people will just ignore you -- so much for getting your opinions across! "

" brew1234, you have no idea of how much I would like to see Auburn prosper. There are major issues that have to be addressed before that can happen. Auburn and Cayuga has had their population shrink for the past 50 years. I think I remember reading a while back that Cayuga County had the 9th highest taxes in the country. The sewer system is in need of major repair. Many plans have been tried in the last 30 years and not much has been gained. And I know that we should not give up hope, but-----. I think you should give the people that voted on the poll more credit. I don't think it is right to call it a knee jerk reaction, just because it doesn't agree with your opinion. Opinions vary as to what will be successful in Auburn, and what will not. It takes many opinions to try and improve Auburn, not just yours. After over 50 years in Auburn, I will always call Auburn home. "I think the best thing going for Auburn is that you moved south." Keep up the good work brew! "

" Have some pride in yourself and use the things you learned in grammar school. There is no excuse for being too lazy to use puncuation and correct spelling. Typos happen to everyone, but not even making an effort shows a lack of respect for others and most importantly yourself. "

" karl you do it your way and ill do it mine as long as they can still read it "

" I am curious MS, did you move south to a run down community like Auburn or did you move to a town like I visualize for the future of Auburn. Opinions like yours will keep Auburn the way it is. There is a large population in Cayuga County and surrounding areas that would enjoy visiting a nice well developed small town with theaters and dining and shopping available. I can't beleive that anyone in Auburn can be satisfied with what downtown is today. A big mistake was done during the 70s called urban renewal or best labeled urban destruction. And you throw out the claim that my attitude sucks? My attitude is positive and yours is always negative. The trend to develop downtown areas is happening all over the nation so why shouldn't Auburn be at the front of the line to do the same? "

" FG, I agree, that was in there for the jerks that always blame the "Republiscums"

brew1234, "No big manufacturing plant is going to come to Auburn anytime soon. No huge employer is coming that way anytime soon." I just said jobs, don't spin it into big and huge! I still question the location of this other city in regards to other larger cities. BTW, your attitude sucks ehen responding to others. "

" Just as big a mess as the S&L scandles of the 80's. Recession then too. I'm also pretty sure that Bush Jr. bankrupted several business before entering into politics. "

" "wall there" -- what wall, where?

At this point, I think Democrats and Republicans alike have landed us in a mess from which no one is going to get us out cleanly. Obama is less offensive than McCain would have been, but neither of them, even with the complete backing of Congress, can press a magic button and make this disaster go away -- the criticism should not be for Obama alone, but for all the contributing politicians -- equally from both parties -- who knew they were allowing irresponsible policies and let them run. "

" When McCain said that the fundamentals of the economy were strong, he was criticized. Now is it OK to criticize Obama for saying the same thing now? The more things CHANGE, the more they stay the same. "

" I think the best thing going for Auburn is that you moved south. No big manufacturing plant is going to come to Auburn anytime soon. No huge employer is coming that way anytime soon. You need to develop any resource you have. You cry about couches piled on the curb and absentee landlords. Don't you want more than that? Auburn is located in a very beautiful tourist area the Fingerlakes region. The tourists are out there and the recession will only help the local tourist trade as many people are downsizing their vacation plans. Auburn is now a stop on the trip for tourists but not a destination. A Tubman national park will be huge. The Seward mansion will get more popular as Civil War history is hot right now. Most smaoll towns all over this country are developing their downtown districts. Urban condos and apartments are desirable in the real estate market. You want something that will draw people from the greater central NY area for a day trip to Auburn. It is about time Auburn had more of a draw then being the center of dive bars and bowling alleys. Condos, lofts, coffee bars, fine dining establishments, trendy stores, theaters, and art galleries are not upscale but are for the enjoyment of all. Auburn does not need to model itself like Dogpatch. It needs vision that many of you do not have. The worst thing to discourage developers is the permeation of a negative attitude of the residents. Don't you want better things for Auburn or do you want Dogpatch? "

" wall there taxing everything what about the swing set at the end of bostwick ave its up just nothing to swing on i ben down that way where are the swings who puts them up "

" "sick of it"---punctuation much?
How about some periods and comma's to make your posts legible?
Sheesh. And it's "THEY'RE"--"they are". "

" Our hearts go out to the DeVoe family. "

" i smoke and ill stop when im good and ready to we all know they want a smoke free n.y that may not happin so there going to tax us. they have tax for everything here i think its to high my self there happy to get that money anyway they can. "

" In the previous Two Cents, movedsouth asked "If you walk down the street and get bitten by a dog, whose insurance pays?"

My ex was taking a walk in Throopsville once while he was waiting for our VW to be repaired at Fingerlakes Small Cars. A dog came running down off it's owner's porch and bit my ex badly before the owner came out and called the dog off. The owner's homeowner's insurance had to pay the medical bills -- it's why they ask you if you have a dog when you fill out the insurance paperwork.

The dog was not on the owner's property, but in the road at the time of the incident -- not sure how it would be different if the dog had run off to town to bite someone. "

" brew1234, maybe it isn't a knee jerk reaction, but a carefully thought out knowledge of what Auburn is. Until you have employment in or near Auburn, it's going to be what it is. Auburn is an elderly city, without employment, and NOT looking for upscale everything.

"The town I mention is slightly larger than Auburn. These theaters have developed the downtown so there are many art galleries, fine dining establishments, coffee shops, book stores and craft sales shops and a very lively night life."

I have to question the location of this town in regards it employment, and events of neighboring larger cities. Auburn is 25 miles from Syracuse, for what that's worth, and 60 miles from Rochester. Art galleries in Auburn, give me a break. And as for saying that this thinking will never move Auburn forward, it's reality.

"brew1234 wrote on Mar 15, 2009 12:28 PM:
" What is the difference if private insurance pays or government insurance pays? The soldier will not be paying out of their pocket. Just any excuse to jump on the president? "

If you get hurt on the job, your employer's insurance pays the bill. It's NOT about Obama. Walk down the street and get bitten by a dog, who's insurance pays? Insurance is a big issue, and all will not agree with different programs. "