" well I do agree with this counterpoint view as the courts seem to villianize men and believe whatever the woman says even if it is a flat out proveable lie. men h/b stereotyped into this position and it seems as of recently with high profile people like Alec Baldwin this may change somewhat. MANY woman use their femininity and so called weaker sex status to gain sympathy when there is no merit for it. A solid book of rules should be set forth and the old fashioned way of dealing with support payments and visitation rights should be dealt with having investigators review both sides unbiased. MANY woman use their children as pawns and THAT folks is the real shame. "

" Does it really matter weather its a father or mother. Whom ever is the caretaker is getting the raw end of the deal. Weather it be mother, father, grandparent who really cares! It just so happens that Rose was talking about a father! "