Two Cents

Monday, December 29, 2008 5:20 PM EST

I think it is sad that you can put somebody in prison for fighting somebody, but a girl can sleep with a child and only gets six months in jail. So you tell me how fair the system is.



I remember when JFK was killed -- I've lived through all the Kennedy candidates. They're good people and they're generous with the bootleg money that their father made way back when, but I think it's time to drop all this popular way-in-the-past stuff.

I know the Auburn leaders are not the sharpest tools in the shed, never have been. Do they ever question what all these tractor trailers are hauling up and down North Street?

I hope my tax money isn't helping to keep up that Seward museum. I think it should fall apart like the rest of South Street.




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nature lover wrote on Jan 8, 2009 10:38 AM:

" I got a chuckle out of that lonely remark also...omg...I think some are in the dark ages when two cents started and was published in the paper and u were allowed just two sentences.

cm honestly lately your posts! "choking on their peanuts'? really? Obama shows grand intelligence in seeking the knowledge of those that preceded him even if one is the creator of his supreme disaster job at hand. Dont forget Carter and Bill were 50% of the lunch crowd and THERE is where the questions of actual prezing took place. Obama most likely asked the Bushes stuff like the best golf course nearby, how many times did Barney the dog crap on the floor, and perhaps how much is one of those new plates valued at that ol' Barbie just bought? I beleive you should be the one choking on your peanuts (I personally dont eat) because u should feel blessed that there is actually someone out there that wants to clean up the Bush mess...no small task...no sir!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 8, 2009 10:07 AM:

" There has never been any such rule down here in the discussion section, Scouty. Two Cents has grown into a community with a life of its own. You are more than welcome to participate all you want.

Lonely?!?!??? Hahahahaa, yeah, right. If you only knew.... "

cm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 10:39 PM:

" Obama lovers must be choking on their peanuts over this statement!:

There they stood, shoulder-to-shoulder in the Oval Office: George H.W. Bush, Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

All the gentlemen here understand both the pressures and possibilities of this office," Obama said. "And for me to have the opportunity to get advice, good counsel and fellowship with these individuals is extraordinary. And I'm very grateful to all of them."

http://news.aol.com/article/
obama-hails-extraordinary-moment-with/297063?cid=12 "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:41 PM:

" There's a new virus going around, be careful opening Obama's acceptance speech and others. This is Snopes verified. http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/obamaspeech.asp "

scouty wrote on Jan 7, 2009 5:42 PM:

" what has happened to the rule of two sentences. this has become a blog for lonely people. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 7, 2009 5:00 PM:

" Many of those people are some of the most dirt poor in this country, mostly not very educated, lacking means to get up and move, many without television, and most importantly, steeped in a culture which teaches them, rightly or wrongly, not to trust The Man. So The Man tells them to abandon their homes and spend money they don't have to leave? How likely do you think they are to even believe it?

No, there is a social and cultural situation there which has nothing to do with people being stupid or refusing to move when they should have.

Bush is indeed ultimately responsible for the total mess of the aftermath because he is responsible for the people he put in place to deal with national disasters (remember the Buck Stops Here?) After Katrina, our government turned to the ASPCA and the Humane Society for tips because they were the only ones with a properly organized rescue effort. That's pretty pathetic.

The very poor, especially in areas like the bayou where you can go miles without meeting up with anything but dirt poor folks, cannot just up and leave like wealthy, middle or even working class folks can do. They live in places like that because they cannot afford to move anywhere safe or decent, and perhaps their families have lived there for generations besides and it's all they know.

No, you just can't blame the victims in this one. "

karl the 2nd wrote on Jan 7, 2009 2:40 PM:

" cm, you never fail to astound me at the sheer narrowness of your perspective and thinking--do you REALLY think that the people of New Orleans just "chose" to live there?

What--do you think that there was an employed town crier running around yelling daily that they lived under sea level? How many people do you really think even KNEW? Don't forget--the areas that were flooded were some of the POOREST in the state!

How does your imagination come to the conclusion that people who can barely make rent can just pick up, pack up, and move to better (read "MORE EXPENSIVE!!) and higher areas? The Rich and Privileged have those places sewn up--precisely BECAUSE they're "safer".

Once again, you demean yourself, unintentionally.

You can't blame Bush for the weather or the geography, but you can SURE AS HELL blame him for not having a completely uncompassionate, bumbling, incompetent approach to handing the disaster--WHICH HE WAS WARNED WAS COMING!

(And don't try to sat that those people knew it was coming too, they should have left--many could not leave; besides, many higher income people choose to stay and ride out storms as well so that their possessions don't get looted) "

cm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 2:14 PM:

" it has nothing to do with lacking in humanity, its common sense.

yes, I choose to live here--so KNOWING full well I could be hit from a storm,a must is being prepared the BEST I CAN..
such as having home owners insurance, generators, food, supplies, 2 safes to secure important papers, vehicle insurance, pet carriers, and a PLAN..

officials that dont have their heads in their butts 'just in case' is also a MUST!

so much better than to deny 'it wont happen to me' and just wait on my roof, while my 'friends' are risking their lives looting-- not for food but for a TV they wont watch for months!

then afterwards cry to my GOV. "florida has hurricanes? since when? I didnt know that but PAY me because YOU KNEW" "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 7, 2009 12:06 PM:

" nl, looks like your reasoning is that we get rid of what you consider a bad apple, then automatically the next will instill faith. Do you belong to a cult? Yes, the people re-elected Bush, must be the majority felt he was doing a good job. I don't know about you, but I felt the economy was doing pretty well until about 2 years ago. I think false financial security took over and things tanked. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 7, 2009 10:23 AM:

" movedsouth, he will instill faith as stated b4 because we will no longer have a "gooney looking, rich, illiterate war monger" to look at!! Dont we all feel better on sunny days than gloomy ones? its an outlook...
and I have to laugh at your line "the dopey people elected Nagan again." the same could be said about Dubya!!! "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 7, 2009 10:08 AM:

" nl, "Hopefully just the meer fact that we have Obama to lead will again instill faith in Americans as real people not selfish criminals out for ourselves at any cost." The man is unproven and has minimal or no experience, I fail to see why that would "instill faith" in anyone. "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 7, 2009 10:01 AM:

" True cm, many people that lived there did NOTHING and just waited for someone to do something for them. Much like waiting for their welfare check. The largest share of fault belongs to the Mayor and Governor. They did nothing either. Then the dopey people elected Nagan again. Well, moving back in below sea level is asking for trouble. I hope they have good insurance because it's not up to us to bail themout again. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:56 AM:

" well DAH! cm a counterpoint I could make living in NYS looking at people that live in Fla is DAH! "those people CHOOSE where they lived" DAH ! in HURRICANE alley!! ridiculous!!

so u are saying that we should all wear a protective shawl of extreme intelligence such as u to be aware of all evil forces on earth because god forbid something bad befalls us - its DAH! u should have known better?!? your post lacks said humanity I spoke of. U sound bitter! "

nature lover wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:51 AM:

" no d/n c that show CCL but it looked interesting...
this past weekend we watched a French film subtitled - it started with riots that flared during a current presidential election there dipicting the man running as a ruthless war monger who didnt care for the poor or sick and actually created the intense bloodshed by sending his police force out to do massive killings during the riot scenes. A line said of an actor while they were in hiding watching the tube after he was elected was "Now, we have our Bush."
Hopefully just the meer fact that we have Obama to lead will again instill faith in Americans as real people not selfish criminals out for ourselves at any cost. "

cm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:38 AM:

" blaming Bush for the katrina is beyond ridiculas!
those people CHOOSE where they lived:
DAH! under sea-level
DAH! in hurricane alley
DAH! with NO INSURANCE

all bcause they have the notion 'IT WONT HAPPEN TO ME'!

then their local officials:
DAH! never made emergency plans ahead of time.
DAH! hired cowards(police)that would run away instead of aiding
DAH! had TRUCKS waiting on state line with supllies/aid that were not allowed to enter.
DAH! officials that KNEW about the substandard levies and re-routed state monies for OTHER important PORKS!
DAH! gave away millions to those that SAID they WERE there and needed help, when in fact they were NOT THERE!

JEB BUSH has covered possibly every nook & cranny in FL concerning hurricanes!
the GOV. of LA. was a useless 'P.O.S'

granted as with 9/11 there will always be lessons to learn for something so massive, but taking blame begins with individuals who LIVE where they Choose to live!
and now I am supposed to be a good american, waste federal tax dollars to aid a community to rebuild in the same locations with NO changes in THEIR behaviors?
for what another hurricane to wipe them out?
what common sense does that make??? "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:20 AM:

" Did anyone else watch 'What Would You Do?' Drops Two 'Ugly Americans' in Paris on ABC news last night? It was very intresting. It really showed how people in other countries veiw us. The couple, who were actors wore "Bush 08" T-shirts and a woman from Germany commentented, "What if I wore a shirt that said, 'I love Hitler'?" I see her point. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 7, 2009 9:14 AM:

" We need to put the balance back in the "checks and balances," for starters.

Then we need to strip corporations of the ability to have the undue influence they currently have over our government.

Our election system could use a good review with an eye to improvement too.

Then maybe we could start getting back on track as a Constitutional Republic with checks and balances to the power at the top. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:53 AM:

" cm, the world views the US of A as a dominant force globally - even we, as Americans dont realize the massive domino effect we possess. When we elect an individual to what we consider the highest position an American can hold, the world looks at said person as the representative of millions of people. So when Bush, a gooney looking, rich, illiterate war monger takes the power this country posesses and uses it for his own private desires, yes, he will look in religious terms like the One. That said power and seemingly endless funds could have been used to aid victims here and abroad during disasters, dont research for the sick, etc. Look what Bill is doing in the humanitarian front. But alas instead Bush chose to create more heartache w/senseless war bloodshed. Katrina will be remembered as his achilles heel and it provided an insight that he wasnt even willing to help his own fellow Americans. Truly a complete national embarrassment. Our founding fathers lived in a time when the president d/n have as much say as one does now. Time is nigh to revisit our original beliefs in gov't because Bush pushed the bar too far and we must recover what we really are as a country and that is the worlds melting pot, NOT an elitists nations where only 2% of the population is important! "

cm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:50 AM:

" Congrats to a Union Springs local who was picked to represent NY state Law Enforcement at the Obama inauguration!
We, and all those that know you are VERY PROUD of you! "

cm wrote on Jan 7, 2009 7:17 AM:

" wow, I am so impressed the power Bush (alone) has to take down not only the whole american ecomomy, but to do it worldwide!
he must have twitched his nose and brought katrina to LA, threw out a cig.butt while visiting Arnold that began CA's wildfires, of course he swirled his spoon in the ocean for that tsunami, as his belly grumbles it awakens Yellowstone, stomped his feet which caused the massive quake, and slammed the oval office door which caused someone to get struck by lightning!
if he would only tighten that texan belt buckle and push the red button, he would bring the world PEACE atlast!

I was at church today for a funeral, they said the messiah is coming..
truly a lie, because as its spoken here..only one man could have such power..it must be Bush! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 7, 2009 4:41 AM:

" I think I might have known that once upon a time, nature, but I had lost it. Like "Right" and "Left," this one then also comes from British politics. "

cm wrote on Jan 6, 2009 11:46 PM:

" hear hear, if they want to steal my password book and make my van, electric bill, insurance, water & cable, and mortage payment--go for it!

if they steal it to get into my bank account--they will get ZERO! lol...

they would be better off bringing a dolly and taking the big screen!

they can have my piggy bank too-I started putting 1.00 a day into it,
I have saved 14.00 so far...lol... "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:17 PM:

" More like Thanks to the Supreme Court of the 1880s, under undue influence from the powerful railroads; a Court which decided to (MIS-)interpret the Constitution to extend human rights to corporations (Santa Clara County vs. Southern Pacific Railroad) and all the generations of lawyers who set precedence built on that perverse and obscene decision who gave MORE "human" and "Constitutional" rights to corporations than to natural human persons -- which has allowed corporations to have overwhelming power over our Congress and government in general. Their puppets (i.e. our government) have allowed corporations unfettered pursuit of profit for the few at the expense not only of the majority, but also of the environment and our whole economy.

I'm not a communist who thinks we should redistribute the wealth, but corporations are NOT persons, should NEVER have been extended rights which supersede those of natural human persons, should never have been allowed such leverage over our government, and should never have been allowed to run roughshod over what was good, prudent and safe for ALL the people in the pursuit of ever greater profit for their executives.

Sure, there are more specific and immediate causes of our current predicament, but it all traces back to that one Supreme Court "decision" which laid the foundation for all the rest. Remove that perversion, and the whole world would be changed for the better. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:48 PM:

" good one unknown!

welp FG u perked my ever inquisitive nature and I looked that saying up:

hear, hear (is correct not here, here)
meaning: A shout of acclamation or agreement.
Origin: Originated in the British parliament in the 18th century as a contraction of 'hear ye(or him), hear him'. It is still often heard there although it is often used ironically these days. "

Unknown... wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:28 PM:

" FG, you mean, "...people that had their jobs taken away from them..." (thanks to the 2 Bush administrations). "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 6, 2009 5:08 PM:

" The former, which may even be spelled "Hear, hear" -- I've never been sure about that one.

You all see (or hear!) how the unemployment system was crashed a good part of yesterday as they were getting hit by 10,000 unemployed callers PER HOUR trying to put in their weekly claims? I'm sure plenty of them were people trying again and again to get in, but it's still an awful lot of people without jobs. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 6, 2009 3:59 PM:

" here here as in approval, head going up and down, clinking your utensil on side of glass...

or here here that u r aghast at my candor?

I calls em as I sees em.... "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 6, 2009 2:55 PM:

" Here, here, nature. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:12 AM:

" cm...coward-d-d-d out of getting Osama?

so did Bush...

at least Bill kept things at home and that saved the massive amts of illegal war bucks Dubya squandered...zero comparison to sex.

Bush WILL go in the HX books as thee worst administration known...

and god forbid Jeb gets even a nod as a senator...the whole family is corrupt... "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:59 AM:

" Thieves wouldn't break into your house to steal your identity, but if you left that kind of info lying around in such an obvious place as an address book, they would have no compunction about picking it up and leveraging their break-in into a lot more, and less difficult to carry out of the house than a wide-screen TV.

(Like people who think thieves will never think to look in the freezer for cash, they know human habits very well or they wouldn't be successful thieves!)

Honestly, it's just foolish to have them all written down in one convenient place, whether you take them with you or leave them home -- because it would be very convenient for a thief, like, say, your daughter's questionable new techie-geek boyfriend who is in the house legitimately and sees the address books sitting there....

Hackers, who hack into systems, are more likely to target some place with many people's info -- like the server of a bank or credit card company, though they do also target wireless home networks because so few people take any pains at all to secure their wireless networks at home. You can get software to easily hack the built-in security that comes with a home wireless setup -- if people even bother to activate even that much. That kind of hacking is called "war driving" -- as in many places hackers drive around with a laptop, wireless access equipment and this software until they detect an unsecured network allowing access through the air outside your home or business. Then they are in and you are toast.

Very seldom do hackers bother trying to grab info on route, as so many businesses have taken pains to secure the transmission. The weak point is how securely is the information stored once a business has it -- in which case it makes no difference whether you gave them that info over the internet, over the phone or in person.

The exception is at the gas pump -- many gas stations transmit the debit and credit card info from the point it is collected at the pump back to a server in the building -- and they don't always have it properly encrypted. War drivers can pick that up and run with it.

But last time I checked, physical access remained the most common way thieves obtain access to private information by far -- way more than hacking in over the net. Someone sees and copies down your password where you have it written down and you don't even know it's been stolen.

I don't claim to be the world's expert on network security, or identity theft, but I have more qualifications than some. I had to do a reasearch project on identity theft for a policy class in grad school, and I also took a whole grad course in network security. That was 7 years ago, and lots has changed, but the fundamentals are still the same, and I did get an A in the class. I've also worked with ITS both at Wells and here at Ithaca on network security issues, so I do know something about it. Again, there are people in the field who know a lot more than I do, but I am not speaking based only on little spots I've heard in the news. "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:48 AM:

" There must have been a misprint in the morning paper, they reported that Obama's stimulus package includes a tax break for big businesses. As much as he criticized McCain, this can't be possible. "

cm wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:37 PM:

" sorry nature: but the only reason why Bill left a surplus of cash is because he coward-d-d-d out of getting Osama.
Reagan wore pants while Bill dropped them! "

cm wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:35 PM:

" I think most hackers are on the web not 'visiting houses'
my daughter-in-law to be was hacked via web by one of the fake bank contacts.
she will be more careful in the future of clicking!

they wont get a 'wide screen' at my house but good luck trying to carry out the 'big screen' with 3 ankle bitters!
(mini dachshunds)lol. "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:33 PM:

" BTW, I really don't think that the people breaking into houses are after identity theft. "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:31 PM:

" You can get a free credit report every year from each of the three. I try to remember Jan, May, and Sept. to get one. One a year for each, but 3 a year if you use all three. I also pay for the credit score once a year. nl,I thought that might ruffle your feathers, just a little humor. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 5, 2009 7:41 PM:

" We can all be as careful as possible but professional scammers have graduated from phishing to 'web 2.0' now. Trusted websites we use daily such as Ebay or Google add to their bottom lines by selling some of our info to 3rd parties. These scammers have now found how to be these '3rd parties' attaching themselves to the site secretly. Being January its time for everyone to request their one free credit report:

www.annualcreditreport.com

and to comment on:
" Anyone else out there getting sick and tired of what Obama and his family are doing? " and the other naysayers...

seriously? the man isnt even in office yet. time is nigh to get with the program and realize there is a black democrat for prez people and the man needs time to attempt to fix what seems like the unfixable from Dubya. Although u know when Bill took office, all thought the mess Reagan had made c/n be undone but he did undo it and left a surplus of cash to boot! Which is exactly what the republicans did - filled their boots.

movedsouth...earlier when i read those two names together: jeb and sarah? I throw up a little...anyone have a tums?

whats this i hear we are gonna have two weeks of super cold? omg is this the longest winter in hx? we had snow b4 halloween...argh "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:44 PM:

" I still like the add book, kept near your phone book, I don't think anybody would think about it. Besides, you should have your home reasonably safe from thieves. Anyway, they be looking at that wide screen TV. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 5, 2009 5:21 PM:

" The most common way hackers obtain access to sites is via physical access to passwords -- over the shoulder of a receptionist typing in a password, or taped to the bottom of a keyboard, or in a little book you think you keep just for yourself. It's really not a good idea. Bad enough to have your home broken into, but any savvy identity thief would look in those obvious places -- then they could leverage their break-in from just what they could carry out of your house to anything they might want to buy with the money in your bank accounts or with your credit cards.

Meanwhile, there are at least a dozen bills put forward every year to combat identity theft in a variety of ways, but the powerful marketing lobbies fight against our protection because they want to be able to freely sell our personal info for profit to other marketers. And corporate influence wins just about every time, and we remain vulnerable to predators.

They all ought to be strung up by the thumbs. "

cm wrote on Jan 5, 2009 4:51 PM:

" excnyer: the press is getting so carried with Obama..with so many more important issues I too really dont care he was christmas tree shopping --how about him wasting gas doing it in a limo then having the tree delivered a few blocks away?!!!

the other aggravation is--no matter who says what--it's racist--if it has the name Obama in it.. "

cm wrote on Jan 5, 2009 4:42 PM:

" I dont travel with mine-it just stays next to the CPU.
when I leave on vacation-I lock it in the safe.
I also keep a key to the safe hidden, so if needed I could call one of the kids and have them get the info I need.

I found the address book easiest. I was keeping them in a spiral but the websites were harder to find after so many were added.
in the 'addy book', they stay in order:
E for ebay and V for van payment.

if strangers came in--they would just think its a simple address book, with nothing worthwhile in it! "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:32 PM:

" I can understand writing info in a book to KEEP HOME, but traveling with all that is wrong. That woman probably leaves her purse open while walking in a mall. cm, I like the address book idea, I just use a small spiral notebook. I'll have to get a small address book. "

excnyer wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM:

" I don't keep my little notebook in my purse, or carry it when traveling (oops! it is in our motorhome in which we live/travel). So, if someone wanted to take my identity, they would have to break into our motorhome and look for the little book.
FG, the person who's address book was sent to you in error was lucky that you had it and not someone else who would have taken the information and used it for their own profit. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 5, 2009 2:58 PM:

" Writing your passwords down in a physical book or piece of paper just makes it easy for identity thieves. It's not a good way to keep track at all.

Once when I was flying home from a conference in DC, the airport staff tipped my purse over in the x-ray machine, losing my business card case. I didn't know until I got home that it was gone, as it had the stub to get out of the airport parking lot and I had to fuss to get out. Anyway, some weeks later, I got a package in the mail -- they had cleaned the machine and found my case down inside it -- along with a little address book with no identifying name which they assumed was mine since the items were together down inside the machine.

Inside that book were not only the addresses and phone numbers of everyone the owner knew, but there were the birthdays, sizes, social security numbers and more info on each of a bunch of related individuals. And there were passwords to all kinds of things including credit card websites. There was a sticky note with a phone number just inside, so I called and it turned out it was the woman's boss. She got in touch with me and I got the book back to her -- but all of her 5 adult children would have been in a whole lot of trouble if I had not been a honest person.

She was very appreciative and sent a nice thank you and small reward (I had not asked for any such thing) -- and told me she'd learned her lesson and would never keep such info written down much less carry it with her on a trip ever again.

There is a continuum -- at one end is convenience and at the other is security. The more convenient something is, the more likely it is to be not secure. "

excnyer wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:00 PM:

" Anyone else out there getting sick and tired of what Obama and his family are doing? "

excnyer wrote on Jan 5, 2009 12:58 PM:

" cm,
I, too, have a little notebook with sign-ons and passwords in it. My hubby uses the same password for everything (making it easy to remember...why didn't I think to do that years ago?) "

Unknown... wrote on Jan 5, 2009 12:20 PM:

" Please, we couldn't take another Bush in the white house!!!! "

cm wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:59 AM:

" Nature: there has been talk of Jeb running for Pres. since he left Governor office of FL.
in all honesty he did a great job in office here.
He 'survived but lost his home during Hurricane Andrew' with that he made great changes to how the state handles these big storms.
Florida will never be handled like Katrina was!

everyone still blames Pres.Bush for how Katrina was handled, but the mini-details of such destruction begins in the towns, cities, and counties FIRST!
Jeb has made sure these issues are taken seriously in our state! "

cm wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:52 AM:

" BLD: I have a large desk and a stand next to it,many shelves,drawers,and nooks to keep the book in!
The best location on my desk is the CD slots!

right now my desk is a horrible mess!
(next resolution: clean my desk!) "

Citizen_Webitor wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:34 AM:

" karl, if you contacted us we could have restored your password "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:26 AM:

" nl, probably Sarah/Jeb!!! "

nature lover wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:05 AM:

" OMG - Jeb Bush for president! What will they think of next? "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:44 AM:

" That is a good idea to write passwords. My problem is, I would lose the book! "

cm wrote on Jan 4, 2009 10:25 PM:

" sadly JLMorgan's mother passed away early SAT morning.
back in the day her and my mom were best buds..I just visited with her a few months ago after not seeing her for 20 years.
I so need to do better and visit people I havent seen more often!
(another resolution for this year)

She was such a sweet lady and will be greatly missed. "

cm wrote on Jan 4, 2009 10:11 PM:

" karl: I use an address book to keep all FAV/most used websites and passwords in.

I gave up a long time ago trying to remember what password I used or changed to.
At my house I dont have to worry about the 'addy book' being right next to my CPU, but if I needed, I could lock it in the safe. "

karl the 2nd wrote on Jan 4, 2009 7:16 PM:

" anonymous, for a person as spineless as you, who lacks the courage to post their real name whilst engaging in troll-like activity, it's amazing the hypocrisy some people have!

When Firefox remembers your password, you tend to forget it--same as using speed dial ad forgetting someone's phone number after a while--which is why I never use that feature.

Interestingly enough, YOU seem to have forgotten your name entirely? "

anonymous wrote on Jan 4, 2009 1:50 PM:

" Your system being compromised caused you to need a new screen name?

It is amazing what people will believe. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 4, 2009 11:08 AM:

" AVG works for me too. I have used both McAfee and Norton, and they cost a bit, and each had a bit of hassle associated, settings which had to be tweaked, or functions which seemed basic to me which they didn't want to let through. Then my tech support guy at Thumpernet (local Auburn business!) suggested AVG as just as good and entirely free. I went with it and have had very good luck. It asks me to update pretty regularly -- which involves a click of a button and a minute or two while it updates -- and no worries. No more constant tweaking settings, having things get held up, or paying annual fees for solid virus protection.

Nothing is going to help if you open the gates yourself (and we've all done it at least once when we had to kick ourselves for it later), but I have been very happy with AVG. "

karl the 2nd wrote on Jan 3, 2009 10:11 PM:

" Thanks for the tips, everybody--it's my fault though, not my excellent AVG 8.0 Security! I also have XoftSPYSE anti-spyware, and RegCure regsitry cleaner. The problem is, I'm really into WWII and especially German Armor--tanks, and whatnot, so I go on these Russian, and Ukraine WWII sites, and look for all these old WWII photos and videos--and I downloaded a plug-in or something from an unverified publisher in order to see a video of a tank recovery from a bog or something like that. There's some amazing stuff from the countries where the war was actually fought!

Stupid thing was, my security warned me that it was a potential threat, but I wanted to see it, so.....STUPID!!!!

It's ok now--and I did get a new rootkit cleaner called "Unhack Me"--it's really "touchy", and pretty hi-tech.

Nothing's a substitute for brains and common sense though, LOL! I've learned my lesson! "

cm wrote on Jan 3, 2009 9:24 PM:

" karl are you downloading illegal musica and catching a virus?
just kidding...
it is a horrible process rebuting everything! good luck this time around! "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 3, 2009 9:20 PM:

" I heard AVG has free anti virus that works well. When my Norton 360 expires, I'll try the AVG. I know people that have it and it works for them. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 3, 2009 8:50 PM:

" karl get a McAfee VirusScan Plus 2009 - with tomorrows papers the ads should have it really cheap for 2009 as we are already in 2009 - if u belong to BJ's pretty cheap there 2...30 bucks or less for the auto virus scan that has all else u need...rebooting from a recovery disc?!? I didnt know anyone did archaic version anymore! But with McAfee u wont ever have to... "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Jan 3, 2009 7:15 PM:

" Karl the 2nd,
What kind of virus/spyware/firewall protection do you use??? "

karl the 2nd wrote on Jan 3, 2009 6:42 PM:

" I had to reboot the computer again....sigh.

Got a "Hidden driver"--too dangerous to let it lie. So I'm back with another name.

Boy--rebooting from a recovery disc sucks!

What a tedious process!! "

Unknown... wrote on Jan 3, 2009 2:21 PM:

" So, can someone tell me when the law that limits heavy truck traffic on certain roads in effect? I thought it was supposed to be on 01/01/2009. Or is it dependant on when they get signs up?? "

daydreamer wrote on Jan 3, 2009 7:49 AM:

" The way food stamps are issued have already been changed C.C.L. The coupon booklets have been replaced by a N.Y.S. Benefit card. It's used like an A.T.M. card at checkout. I am happy it's done this way. It was way to easy to exchange the coupons for cash and make other purchases than food. "

cm wrote on Jan 3, 2009 12:08 AM:

" How sad John Travolta & Kelly Prestons son Jett died today!
I would so be a nutcase if it happened to one of my kids.
I can only imagine the pain and heartache they are going through today and the days to come.
We should all take a moment and reflect on how precious life is..good or bad, we are still breathing. "

the bone wrote on Jan 2, 2009 5:10 PM:

" justventing you should see Delevan St most of the people put it back in the street and I cant lie I do it also. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 2, 2009 4:12 PM:

" Right you are, justventing. I hope someone points it out the those people.

Thanks, movedsouth -- though I could have used that yesterday, LOL! There was seepage here and there, and it also took a utility knife to slice through the paint to allow the tape to come up without bringing the paint with it -- far from perfect. It can all be touched up, but that will be a future project. It is imperfect but not bad, and I decided to put the room back together for now. Looks much nicer than it did.

Absolutely, cm -- I have seen how dependency can ruin formerly happy relationships because it breeds resentment -- on both sides. One person resents always having to carry the other one's load, and the other person resents always having to be beholden to someone else for everything. That's assuming the best intentions and one party isn't using the situation to manipulate the other. No, it's just better to always be able to support yourself. Sure, there are times when one has to lean on another -- spouses, family, friends, even neighbors -- but as long as it is short-term until you can get back on your feet again, as long as it is willingly available to the other if the tables are turned -- that's as should be. But being dependent is not a good thing for anyone.

Tree won't come down until after 12th Night -- that's Tuesday. It just takes too long to put it up to take it down too soon after Christmas/Solstice/Yule.

Time for a nice bowl of homemade broccoli cheddar soup and a bit of rest. Been going hard at it since Farmer Guy arrived to help with the painting at 4:45 AM! "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 2, 2009 1:14 PM:

" FG, I was watching the DIY channel and they showed a new masking tape for painting, it's called Frog tape. It left the sharpest paint line. "

justventing wrote on Jan 2, 2009 1:05 PM:

" This is just a reminder to all that putting snow in the city roads is illegal. When you shovel, snow blow, or use a truck to remove the snow from your property you cannot put in the road OR on another person’s property. This goes out to people on Havens Ave near Seward Ave. who always shovels the snow into the road. Again this is illegal and dangerous to the auto drivers. "

cm wrote on Jan 2, 2009 12:02 PM:

" I was surprised at the POLL that most do not make a New Years Resolution.

I plan to do my best at finishing things I have started.
Most of all--save money better as to NOT be left penniless as I was last year!
marriage or no marriage NEVER be dependant! "

cm wrote on Jan 2, 2009 11:55 AM:

" I guess I should be glad the EX is handy when it comes to repairs.
he learned from his dad who built his own house!
of course getting him to do it--is a chore in itself--lol.

Today the tree comes down--sad to see Christmas go..
But then plan for the next week is to tear up carpeting, then wall-paper &
re-carpet the hall to the daughters room.
the supplies to do this have been 'hanging' around for about 3 yrs now!
MAYBE I will use VERY LITTLE glue--in case of removal in years to come--hahaha

I have never wall-papered so this should be interesting, I was thinking about the quick version:
hang it with colored thumb tacks, it would look polka-dotted! hahaha "

CayCntyLifer wrote on Jan 2, 2009 11:53 AM:

" I believe that there should be some kind of foodstamp reform. When I was 16-20 I worked in a grocery store. You would be horrified to see some of the things that people purchase with their foodstamps and cash that was given to them by the goverment. Chips, cookies, soda, sugary cereal, TV dinners. Not a fruit or vegtable in sight. It really is a shame. Not only will these foods lead to obesity, but they are very poor for just basic nutrition! Besides that, after they purchased their groceries they'd use the cash to buy beer and ciggs. Shameful. On a side note, I once babysat a four year old. I gave him some carrot sticks and he called them cheetos! Makes me wanna run screaming!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 2, 2009 11:42 AM:

" BTW, who is Marcus Guy of Auburn? I don't know, but the guy can really pick winners in football games. He leads the local Pigskin Payoff pick-'em game (I'm tied at 4th and he's 15 points ahead of me) and is 10th nationally out of almost 145,000 players.

I'm impressed -- right here in Auburn, NY. Good going, Marcus! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 2, 2009 11:37 AM:

" Wow -- that's astonishing. I will most certainly keep them in mind then. Are they local to Auburn? (i.e. can you share the phone number).

I'm about ready to take the tape off -- very carefully, and I see I will need to use the utility knife to be sure the tape separates from the paint instead of pulling it up. Then there will be some touch-up to the trim, not bad, but a little - then I'm done! Maybe by later today. Wish I could share a picture. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 2, 2009 9:31 AM:

" nope the 207 is for all no extra charge whatsoever (no tax no install and they dispose), any size even huge like my house. just do a few each year...we have 47 windows in this house and 51 doors and 12 sets of stairs...so we take things slow... "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 1, 2009 7:42 PM:

" I'll keep it in mind, but I have to save up for more fuel oil first. Almost none of my windows are even close to standard size, and the ones which most need help are extra large. I am also assuming that the $207 is just for the window, not the installation -- for which you can tack on another chunk I don't currently have. But I do thank you and will keep the brand in mind when the time comes -- maybe by summer I will have my stores restocked (I will get paid for the part time teaching gig, but half of it has to go to a friend who gave me an interest-free short-term loan for my house). I am beating down my debt at the same time I am slowly investing in the house. Car has about 10 months, student loan about a year and a half, last of the credit card debt, 2 1/2 years, give or take - then there will be nothing but the mortgage, and I can take the rest of that money and put it towards things like windows.

There are 11 which could be replaced on the first floor, three huge ones and one oversized which are pretty critical, and upstairs there are 9 more, 5 more important than the others, and these are mostly fairly standard size. There are a grand total of TWO double-paned insulation windows in place already, both standard sized.

Thanks much for the tip on affordable ones!

Progress report: Door and trim painted, except window (I'm not removing the taped on plastic and re-doing it until the plastic comes off in the spring), then allowed to dry, then carefully taped with the blue painters tape. Then all Farmer Guy and I cut in all around the edges and filled in the tiny small spaces where the roller won't fit. Tomorrow early he'll come do the rolling, and then I can touch up any places around the edges which aren't quite perfect. Then carefully remove the tape, touch up any trim that needs it -- and put the furniture and draperies back in place. Hooray! "

nature lover wrote on Jan 1, 2009 6:41 PM:

" $207 any size..we are up to 15 replaced so far.... "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Jan 1, 2009 5:58 PM:

" FG, even if you don't like Pink Floyd!!! "

cm wrote on Jan 1, 2009 2:37 PM:

" GOOD one movedsouth!
movedsouth wrote on Jan 1, 2009 10:17 AM:
lol....

FG: yes windows are costly-especially if you have to order them for an unusual size.
we paid 250.00 per window(2)for the playroom 2 yrs ago-BUT it did make a huge difference in eliminating drafts.

in the daughters new room-since we rebuilt the whole wall frame-we could now use standard window sizes which were about 150.00 each window.

..for the safety of their sister the darling boys informed us how easy it was for 'girls' to be snuck in--so we also raised the window frame!
plus added window alarms, just in case, Romeo brought a stool...lol.. "

nature lover wrote on Jan 1, 2009 10:57 AM:

" FG try affordable windows... "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 1, 2009 10:17 AM:

" "The rest of the world cannot understand how, after bitter election campaigns, American politicians can return to reality.

For instance, Sarah Palin has invited to her great state of Alaska the men who defeated her, Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

She has provided a moose hunting trip for their enjoyment and has hired two other prominent men to assist them.

Dick Cheney will instruct them in safe gun handling and Ted Kennedy will drive them back to their cabins in the evening.

What a gal, that Sarah is such a sport and thinks of everything." "

movedsouth wrote on Jan 1, 2009 7:31 AM:

" I thought Internet service would be available in South America. Besides, why leave the greatest country in the world? "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 1, 2009 5:04 AM:

" Even if I don't like Pink Floyd, BLD? ;-) Thanks and a happy and prosperous new year to you and all the folks here as well. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Jan 1, 2009 5:02 AM:

" What I meant, Karl, was that if we are the better people we'd like to be, they would be humanely executed. I don't argue with the execution part. "

cm wrote on Dec 31, 2008 11:41 PM:

" dinner was great! used the Christmas gift cards. I love not cooking plus have a free meal! lol.

New Years Eve is abit sad, reflecting back on the whole year can be depressing. But on the flip side, a new year is coming, with a 50/50 chance of being better than the last year!
some of us can learn from our boo-boos and make much needed changes.

Sorry karl, but I think your letters are wasted paper,words, and time. And lets not praise the newbie who doesnt have his foot in the door, and seems to have skeletons, like those before him/next to him, in his/their closet.
The whole Illinois Governor situation is JUST beginning!

now another waste of taxpayers dollars and judges time:
http://news.aol.com/article/
atheists-file-lawsuit-over-inauguration/291040

are there not more important issues to be handled?

here is my daughters note to santa:
dear santa,
I wrote this in Nov.2008. I know there will be many things I want but the main thing is that every homeless person gets something for Christmas.
can you make sure the homeless guy I saw at the gas station gets a home soon?
whenever I see him i wish he had a home. I feel like its my fault he doesn't have one. Please don't worry about what I want and focus on what the homeless want.
thank-you, your friend M.M.

she is only 9, and has more sense than our politicians and those that file frivolous law suits! "

brew1234 wrote on Dec 31, 2008 10:28 PM:

" The Kennedy clan has served this country for many years and many of them have dedicated their lives to public service. Some of them have made mistakes and mostly they have just protected the common citizen from the injustices of right wing politics and corporate greed. If future generations of Kennedys want to serve their nation we should welcome them not discourage them. Thuogh he made some serious errors in his life Ted K. has done enough to overcome this by his public service and being the patriarch of this fine family. I don't think this family has any more skeletons in the closet than any of us. "

brew1234 wrote on Dec 31, 2008 10:12 PM:

" The explanation of didntmovefarenoughawaysouth is that we were hoping that you set up your residence in South America, maybe Chile or Argentina.
Happy New Year to all. Even those who don't agree with me. Even anonymoose. "

karl again... wrote on Dec 31, 2008 9:47 PM:

" Farmer's Gal, when I think of the misery and death, heartbreak to the innocent families on both sides of the conflicts; limbs lost, bodies and livelihoods and futures shattered, relationships tragically cut short, tears shed, and billions wasted which might have TRULY made for a better world, I myself would shape those nooses, put them around their necks, and myself kick the chairs out from beneath their feet. I mean that with 110% seriousness.

Movedsouth---you may be right--and that's a tragically sad, horrible fact about our Nation. "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Dec 31, 2008 8:54 PM:

" Happy New Year, FG!!! You have a big heart!!! "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 31, 2008 7:45 PM:

" karl, I think the trial is scheduled to start when H*ll freezes over. "

excnyer wrote on Dec 31, 2008 7:33 PM:

" Happy New Year!
70 degrees here in Arizona. Sure is better than last week's weather when we actually had snow flurries! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 31, 2008 7:32 PM:

" If they are hanged like the officials of the Third Reich, that means deliberately setting up the equipment so they would NOT have their necks broken but slowly strangle for up to 20 minutes before they died. Thought maybe we were above that, but we aren't. "

karl again... wrote on Dec 31, 2008 6:10 PM:

" B0NER and movednotfarenoughawaysouth, I guess you guys haven't been paying attention, huh?

Bush started an illegal war. He illegally wiretapped.

Cheney authorized Torture in that illegal war.

Therefore, both Cheney and Bush are War Criminals--and should be tried, convicted, and hung as such. Just like the Nazi war criminals of the Third Reich.

I've already written letters, and they're ready to go out in triplicate just as soon as Obama takes office. "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 31, 2008 6:04 PM:

" "He basically came out and said", I guess to some that means that he actually said it. Just proves my point. Would you care to explain "moved not far enough south", or are you also just blowing smoke? "

hadenough wrote on Dec 31, 2008 5:51 PM:

" moved not far enough south
Answer me this why did Colin Powell quit??? Was it because Bush and Cheney were doing such a great job and were very caring!He basically came out and said they were crossing the line,and breaking the law!! THATS NOT WHAT THOSE PEOPLE KNOW THTAS WHAT AN INSIDER KNOWS !!! "

anonymous wrote on Dec 31, 2008 5:39 PM:

" I taste your blood as it showers from my blade
I eat your heart, from evil it was made
With heart filled hatred black blood runs through my veins.
I take your powers to the ancient ones who reign
I conquer evil, let evil know my name
Come forth ye wicked, know the gruesome pain
I am the omen, the one that cannot die
I am the flame, hatred burns inside.
My strength is hatred, torment and pain, HATRED, HATRED
With heart filled hatred black blood runs through my veins.
I crush your bones, I kill your face
I rip your flesh, I end the chase
You meet with terror, you draw the ace "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 31, 2008 5:28 PM:

" Hilary wasn't doing us much good anyway -- New York was just meant to be her stepping stone. Now they are saying Bill may be up for her seat -- good grief!

New Year's is a milestone date for people to look back at the past year and forward to the next. Me, I don't mind New Year's but I lost my taste for Pink Floyd and can't stand them. I turn the radio off when they come on, and it really irritates me that The Wall plays Pink Floyd about once every hour -- there are lots and lots of other classic rock groups that no one group needs to be played every stinkin' hour. But when I complained, they told me that they have no control over their programming because they farm it out to some place in Iowa or Nebraska or something. What's the world coming to when even your local radio station isn't local?

I'm with you on Bush and Cheney, Karl -- they richly deserve it for all kinds of things, many of which I'll bet we don't even know -- but it's not too likely to happen. "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 31, 2008 5:13 PM:

" the bone, throughout the year we have people post how papers and reports have surfaced that PROVE wrong doing by Bush and Cheney and it is certain that they would be tried. The only thing that was proved is that these people don't know what they are talking about. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!! "

the bone wrote on Dec 31, 2008 4:48 PM:

" KaRL writes et's hope that they indict Cheney and Bush soon-then it will truly be a "Happy" new year. "Keep Dreaming it wont happen.Their did nothing wrong "

daviddelker wrote on Dec 31, 2008 3:34 PM:

" Saw South Park last night--pretty funny. All of the Obama supporters running amuck in the streets doing as they please--"cuz Obama was elected, and everything is gonna be alright." Lets hope that people still try to help themselves rather than rely on the handouts they think Obama will give. Newsflash---Obama will change his tune like every other elected official--that's Bush included, and especially Hillary Clinton who has left us in the dust without doing anything for upstate New York. Anyway---I do wish Obama good luck, and hope he does a good job--I mean that sincerely. He just won't have the guts to not conform to the people who financially supported him. "

karl again... wrote on Dec 31, 2008 3:20 PM:

" "Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but its sinking
And racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in the relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death..."

I dunno...maybe it's just me....but I hate New Year's eve!

Every year that goes by, and a New Year's celebration come on TV, I think "What the %$^# are these people celebrating for?!"

Then it hit me--BARACK OBAMA!

Let's hope that they indict Cheney and Bush soon-then it will truly be a "Happy" new year. "

nature lover wrote on Dec 31, 2008 2:18 PM:

" Happy New Year to one and all!

We are buried alive here in Auburn, getting a foot of snow overnite and we are still getting it intermittently!

CM, u enjoy that scampi, sounds good, we are off to the buffet at Springside - they do a marvelous job there. Glad we got 4 new snow tires for the car as we are gonna need them tonight! Everyone enjoy whatever it is u do tonight even if its snuggling in bed as the minutes of 2008 pass quietly. We will be enjoying some NYS champagne from Penquin Bay - Naturele - yum!!

Nice link upstateclipse, you know its seems its always this small group of elbow rubbers that get these positions and subsequently take advantage of them rather than being nobel & actually doing the community service which is what the postions are supposed to be. I say in lite of this major injustice, the city of Auburn should should dehire Green as its first human resources director. No parting cash or incentives cuz she broke the contract by being a white collar criminal!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 31, 2008 2:13 PM:

" Guest room update: One layer of wallpaper removed, spackled, sanded, one coat of primer. NL wrote: "...apply a coat of white primer and allow to dry for a couple days - dont panic if bubbling!" OK, you had better be right! It's not happening all over, but here and there are little patches of bubble-up under the primer. I take it I just wait for it to "calm down?"

I have learned that I am lousy with a roller. I may go back and do the touch-ups (primer uncovered spots I had missed in terms of a loose bit here, a rough spot there), then cut in the edges with a brush (I can do that quite well), maybe even paint the trim in white. Then find some friend of Farmer Guy who knows what he is doing to roll the middles -- I am just not good at it!

The ceilings in this house were "done" by the previous owners -- all that sort of patterned stucco stuff, with sparkles around the ceiling fans in a circle, if you take my meaning. They are all right, and I don't plan to mess with them.

In the little guest room, I won't monkey with the molding. Don't have the money for that right now anyway! But I have dreams for the first floor for "some day" -- I would like to replace the plain, utilitarian square white doorways/archways with real archways -- with rounded corners and wide carved-wood molding.

I used to live in the Sherwood Home for the Bewildered (aka the Emily Howland House in Sherwood, next to the school). I had the front parlor for my living room -- how elegant and wonderful! The molding there was reminiscent of classical Greek temples to match the columns on the porch and either side of the fireplace. It fit perfectly. That wouldn't go here, but I have a vision of natural wood moldings, carved with a combination of grooves and botanical patterns, arching gracefully over the top of each entryway. For now, that is a distant dream. The pea green had to go, but the next investment has to be in windows. I have several for which there are no storms, so it is just a single pane of glass between me and the outdoors -- brrr! I have plastic on some, but for the long term, I need to replace windows - and that's not cheap! Dreams will have to wait.

You eat up the shrimp, cm -- since I don't like it, that leaves more for you! I am also supposed to limit caffeine, so I don't eat chocolate. Luckily for me, I am one of those rare women who are NOT chocoholics and I go for years without it and don't miss it. I cut out coffee years ago too, but I do still imbibe Sabroso -- it's an off-brand Kahlua. Some of the off-brands are awful -- like sugar-syrup -- but Sabroso costs about half what Kahlua does and to me, it tastes even better. If you are buying yourself a new bottle at the liquor store, give it a try. I'll bet the Kahlua-Chocolate treat is very tasty, but you are right -- wicked bad calories.

However you all celebrate the new year, be sensible and drive safely. I'll surely be home and sound asleep myself.

Take care, all, and may the New Year bring better times to everyone. "

cm wrote on Dec 31, 2008 1:47 PM:

" Happy New Year!

heading to dinner at Red Lobster
sorry FG: I plan to eat tons of shrimp scampi-and way too many garlic rolls.
(so much for the Special K diet--lol)

then staying home with a chocolate kahlua milkshake watching the ball drop.

enjoy your evening! stay safe, only make resolutions you can honestly keep!
lol. "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM:

" HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!

Everyone enjoy this holiday, and be safe!! "

upstateclipse wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:04 PM:

" I was over on syracuse.com and I read a very interesting article about Auburn's human resource mgr. I am really surprised that the citizen hasn't covered it yet
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/sennett_assessment_officials_p.html "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Dec 31, 2008 12:06 AM:

" NL,
Love IS a beautiful thing!!! "

nature lover wrote on Dec 30, 2008 7:22 PM:

" I am happy for you BLD...I am married to my best friend for going on 20 yrs - oh my!! But there is nothing like going thru life with a mate...u grow as an individual.

Why would I think u were messing up your wall fixing method FG? Have at it sister and be amazed what a coat of primer will cover!! I still say the music will get you moving in ways not acheived b4. Consider stamping the walls for a sofisticated 'wallpaper' look. I found a fern leaf stamp the size of my hand that I put all over the walls in a same but darker color as the walls. Or another idea in old houses is if you have decent woodwork around doors/windows, try adding a surround of nice molding perhaps 12-15" from ceiling or at a constant level around the room in line with the highest piece of woodwork - here none are all the same height. Then that space can be painted a darker or contrasting color - or paint ceiling and that space and the molding sky blue...ideas? I have a million of 'em...

I, too, wondered about the Seward House comment above. There was a transfer of ownership from the Emerson Foundation to the Seward House recently so it may fall under tax dollars now? Perhaps the poster was being facetious in regards to how trucks are ruining South St pavement after all that work was done?

I am like cm also in enjoying the walls covered, however here its in a victorian fashion hung from picture rail and hooks and one room is dedicated as the art gallery hung with my own photos thru the years...I enter into contests at times... "

bassistlearningdrums wrote on Dec 30, 2008 5:20 PM:

" NL,

I have found someone that I can enjoy my life with. And an added bonus, I will be about 5 hours from the "old" neighborhood!!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 30, 2008 3:20 PM:

" I refuse to answer the current Citizen poll for fear of jinxing my Giants.

Meanwhile - nature, if you think I am messing up in my approach to my walls, feel free to look me up on my worksite, then google my name -- my phone number is on my website. (Check the resume). cm -- same story, in case you want to take some of this talk off-list so as not to bore the regulars (though no one else seems to be saying much today except movedsouth). "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 30, 2008 2:53 PM:

" Your walls are like your hair -- it's yours and YOU should decide how you like it.

I don't like my walls packed, but I have prints, framed posters and even one real painting (which I did myself in the 7th grade). My favorite is a pair of Edward Gorey prints from The Blue Aspic -- men in tails and women in wild formal wear with a vaguely 1920s look, going up and down the grand staircase at the opera and also in the lobby. These scenes are the inspiration for the opening titles of the PBS Mystery! series and absolutely perfect at the turn at the landing on my stairs.

OK, the scraping is done. Not 100% perfect, but ever so much better than it was. From the innermost layer, there was poorly installed brown-paper drywall, with gaps between panels in some places. Then a layer (or possibly two) of paint. Then the thin wallpaper with a shiny pale beige background (to which subsequent layers did not stick well, which is good) and sprinklings of apple blossoms (where subsequent layers did stick some) in a sort of cottage-rose chintz, "shabby-chic" design. Over that was a layer of thick wallpaper, no idea what pattern and might even have been a solid color. Then a layer of paint AND a layer of primer AND another layer of paint, this last one the hideous screaming pea green.

The walls are now down to the shabby chic apple blossoms and ready to be spackled.

How does all this relate to the Two Cents news? Here's how -- I am trying to fix up my house so I don't live someplace crummy. What's with the idjit who posted in the starter comments about letting the Seward House fall apart? First of all, the person is wrong, because there are many homes and houses on South Street which have been fixed up and are being nicely maintained -- they are not "falling apart like the rest of South Street." Second of all, if YOU want to live in a sh*thole, buddy, that's your business, but most people would like to live in a town where there aren't too many decrepit, unmaintained buildings. Take your junkyard attitude and go live like a hermit in the mountains, far away from others, because we really don't want to live next door to someone who prefers a derelict setting. "

cm wrote on Dec 30, 2008 1:16 PM:

" I so agree Nature: my family does live in white walls! BORING, and about as dull as can be!

my daughter(21) is also a bare-white-wall nut..where I am every wall covered with family pics, kids pics, friends pics.
Being a picture nut, with about 30+photo albums, I love to share them.

I love my 'honey-gold' walls, and since I live here--my vote over rules all others! lol.. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 30, 2008 12:45 PM:

" I think I got the right tool, though I have sent Farmer Guy back for another that might work better -- but too late! I am down to one short wall. Naturally, there are some surprises, but none too awful. In a couple places there is old water damage -- not horrible, and not on the outer layer, but just enough that the paper is either not coming off or is just isn't there. I will spackle and sand and prime and not worry that there is a tiny patch of green underneath. Also, I find that the walls are drywall after all -- this part of the house must not be as old, though it is an odd drywall coated in "plain-brown-wrapper" brown paper instead of the white I am used to seeing. One wall has many holes, dents and gouges, plus I accidentally put a good gouge in one spot myself. All those I will handle with joint compound and/or lightweight spackle (depending on the size/depth of the spot), etc.

So, I expect to have all the green-painted paper off by 1:30 or 2 PM. Then I will go over everything and scrape or sand any stray bits of paperbacking. Then I'll wipe down any dust and crud and first fill the big holes with the heavier joint compound, then go back for the finer stuff with the lightweight spackle. Then we'll leave it overnight while I work on the lectures for the course I am going to be teaching.

No idle hands here today! No music, but a glass of cold white wine does sound good -- the work is a bit dusty. "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 30, 2008 12:26 PM:

" WOW, karl is finding some good in religion!!!!!lol "

karl again... wrote on Dec 30, 2008 11:47 AM:

" My father sent me this---a good one for laughs!
Thank God for church ladies with typewriters. These sentences actually appeared in church bulletins or were announced in church services (Summer, 2007 Release).

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The Fasting &Prayer Conference includes meals.
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The sermon this morning: 'Jesus Walks on Water.' The sermon tonight: 'Searching for Jesus.'
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Our youth basketball team is back in action Wednesday at 8 PM in the recreation hall.=2 0Come out and watch us kill Christ the King.
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Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It's a chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands.
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The peacemaking meeting scheduled for today has been canceled due to a conflict.
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Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our community. Smile at someone who is hard to love. Say 'Hell' to someone who doesn't care much about you.
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Don't let worry kill you off - let the Church help.
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Miss Charlene Mason sang 'I will not pass this way again,' giving obvious pleasure to the congregation.
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For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs.
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Next Thursday there will be tryouts for the choir. They need all the help they can get.
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The Rector will preach his farewell message after which the choir will sing: 'Break Forth Into Joy.'
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Irving Benson and Jessie Carter were married on October 24 in the church. So ends a friendship that began in their school days.
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A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will follow.
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At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be 'What Is Hell?' Come early and listen to our choir practice.
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Eight new choir robes are currently needed due to the addition of several new members and to the deterioration of some older ones.
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Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles and other items to be recycled Proceeds will be used to cripple children.
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Please place your donation in the envelope along with the deceased person you want remembered.
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The church will host an evening of fine dining, super entertainment and gracious hostility.
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Potluck supper Sunday at 5:00 PM - prayer and medication to follow.
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The ladies of the Church have cast off clothing of every kind. They may be seen in the basement on Friday afternoon.
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This evening at 7 PM there will be a hymn singing in the park across from the Church. Bring a blanket and come prepared to sin.
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Ladies Bible Study will be held Thursday morning at 10 AM. All ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B. S. Is done.
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The pastor would appreciate it if the ladies of the congregation would lend him their electric girdles for the pancake breakfast next Sunday.
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Low Self Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 PM. Please use the back door.
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The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the Church basement Friday at 7 PM. The congregation is invited to attend this tragedy.
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Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM at the First Presbyterian Church. Please use large double door at the side entrance.
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The Associate Minister unveiled the church's new tithing campaign slogan
Last Sunday: 'I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours' "

nature lover wrote on Dec 30, 2008 11:15 AM:

" FG did u get said tool for proper diabolical annihilation of the pea green? Sometimes u are lucky in the paper comes off easy...honestly get the boom box and some bubbly this weekend and get to it!!

CM, gold is a most excellent color why would your family protest? Honestly people who live in houses with white walls and plaid sofas make me lose my appetite. You know the Roseanne look omg...flaunt your new found taste.

BLD, sooo taking the next step with moving in together in the spring? Sounds like some serious stuff is taking place!!

Carolyn is NOT the person for Hill's chair. "

nature lover wrote on Dec 30, 2008 11:07 AM:

" lmao...you know movedsouth when the office was open before they sent us home to work there was a woman that 'tooted' most frequently. Finally after everyones complaining, they relinquished her to a corner of the bottom floor. But much to my chagrine upon a promo to head a cost team, you know the ones no one is supposed to know what you are doing, they placed my team on said bottom floor near the tooting corner...as cutbacks of dead wood came she was eliminated. Nice woman but oh my! thx for the laugh of memories... "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 30, 2008 10:49 AM:

" The strangest one I ever worked in an office with was a guy that broke wind. I guess it was just a natural thing that he didn't acknowledge. A little "excuse me" probably would have been good warning to avoid the immediate area. I can understand crop dusting in a store, but in an enclosed office with a secretary, it's just not right. "

cm wrote on Dec 30, 2008 10:26 AM:

" FG: I am still getting slack over 'honey gold' most of the family hates it--lol...BUT I love it!

the older kids only come to visit--so for them its a shock-something totally new after 14 years!

plus, I found out my best friend in NY painted her kitchen 'honey gold'
(great minds think alike!)
she too is getting the 'how could you' from the family!

again, the new and brighter color is an eye-opener at first, but we both love how cheerier the room feels!

I have yet to find the accents I want with navy blue,tan,and honey gold in them.

have fun with removing the pea green! "

cm wrote on Dec 30, 2008 10:12 AM:

" where's the 20,000 marchers NOW for this "upstanding" teen???

http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/
2008/12/30/ap/regional/us/
d95crbr00.txt "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 30, 2008 9:54 AM:

" nature: one wall is no longer pea green! I had not planned to do any more than clean up the corners -- but the top layer is peeling off in half-sheets. A few places stuck and I had to work at them, but mostly not. Here's hoping walls on the outside of the house are harder to peel than walls on the interior! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 30, 2008 9:53 AM:

" Don't laugh, movedsouth, there is a student assistant who works for another department across the hall from my office -- and I have to close my door when she is working because "you know" is only second to "like" as the word most likely to pop out of her mouth every 10 seconds. "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 30, 2008 9:30 AM:

" Caroline would be good, you know, for the Senate, you know, seat. She comes from, you know, good family, you know history. Her voting, you know, doesn't really, you know show what she is, you know, capable of doing, you know, in public office. "

cm wrote on Dec 30, 2008 9:24 AM:

" NY state laws on child molesting are simply a 'slap on the hand' with this knowledge NY is a welcoming state for those scums to move to and reside. Or for those scums already living there to have a field day with ANY child.

I am amazed NY'ers are NOT pushing for harsher sentences!

NY citizens are asleep at the 'carnival'
WAKE-UP and STOP the merry-go-round!!! "

cm wrote on Dec 30, 2008 9:16 AM:

" Name me a Kennedy that has served jail time for a crime they have commited?
They not only think they are above the law--but its a proven fact they ARE above the law!
When a Kennedy rapes or kills, its hidden in the closet (no trials) then those that adore the 'family' praise their generosity.
BUT look what the public did to Michael Jackson who actually went thru a trial and was NOT GUILTY, how about all his YEARS of generosity???

its time for Camelot to end! "

daydreamer wrote on Dec 30, 2008 8:46 AM:

" So, if a majority of N.Y. citizens are against the "fat tax", and it is approved anyways, is that not taxation without representation? "

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