" Hmmm... Free health care, eh? Never been to any of those countries, or known people who pay taxes there do you Mr. Hanley. Socialist health programs come at tremendous cost to the rank and file taxpayers, and are not free. To say they have no peneion costs is idiocy, because of course, they're funding pensions...just not at the same bloated rate of UAW contract levels. Facts would be helpful in your understanding. All governments that tout "free" social health care are all now calling their plans "underfunded" which is government speak for "we want more of your money" "