Jeremy Boyer: Join the debate, online or in print

By Jeremy Boyer

Friday, December 5, 2008 11:57 PM EST

The Two Cents feature at our Web site, auburnpub.com, currently has a provocative quote that was submitted late last week.
The writer of the comment expresses frustration at the dynamics of the conversations that are taking place via the online reader comments in the Two Cents section. “Why don't you pretentious, arrogant windbags shove a cork in it and stop monopolizing the 'Two Cents' column. It is not your personal forum.”

The comment, as expected, has generated a steady number of reader responses, with some agreeing and others in dispute.

We've also received a couple of letters to the editor in recent weeks complaining about a certain letter writer's frequent submissions. Their main complaint is not so much with what he writes, but the fact that he writes and gets published so often (though never more than once per seven days, which is The Citizen's policy).

What troubles me about the sentiment behind all of these complaints is that they want to silence people simply for expressing their opinions.

There's no question that some people are more regular contributors of comments at auburnpub.com, especially in the open-ended Two Cents forum. Some of those people can be quite passionate about their views, too, and they won't hesitate to disagree with someone else.

But what I've rarely seen from any of those regular posters is an attempt to push new contributors out. They might disagree with them, but they welcome the debate.

There have been times, of course, when the discussions and even some of the printed letters to the editor deteriorated into foolish name-calling. I take some responsibility for that because our job is to moderate the forums and the letters page. It can be tough to make a judgment that some person's comment crosses the line, but we feel it's important to provide that layer of approval.

What we won't do, however, is ban people from making an online comment simply because they've posted too many times, or because they're too wordy with their comments.

My advice for folks who get frustrated by another person's frequent commentary is to do one of two things: a) post your own thoughts, get involved in the conversation and don't back down when others disagree or b) don't read the opinions of the people that upset you.

Ultimately, we're trying to foster discussion and debate, and for that to happen, we need regular contributors who have a passion about issues in the news. I'm grateful that's exactly what we have at auburnpub.com.

Executive editor Jeremy Boyer's columns appear Tuesdays in

The Citizen and he can be reached at 253-5311 ext. 231 or jeremy.boyer@lee.net

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There are 3 comment(s)

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 4, 2008 11:38 AM:

" I side with cm and Jeremy as well. I am a frequent poster who often vigorously disagrees with some others but steers as clear of name-calling and insults as I can. Once in a while I'll get goaded into it, but even then, I try to ignore the immature and pointless behaviors of some posters. I also pipe up and encourage better behavior from time to time from people I've come to know well enough that I'd expect better from them.

To the whiners who complain that some people write more than others -- write more yourself if you don't like it. Otherwise, don't be calling for censorship, because you won't get it.

To The Citizen editors -- you should stick more stringently by your own stated rules about personal attacks and insults. While I am sure cm is right and they are worse elsewhere, that doesn't excuse it here. When a person sends an insulting post and it isn't published, they'll learn to be more respectful. Disagreement is encouraged, voicing your opinions is your right. I'll stand up for your right to say I am totally wrong and misguided and my ideas are foolish, but I don't stand by people just insulting and calling each other names.

Sometimes it's the insults, but sometimes there are people who just don't like having their opinions measured against some rebuttals based on logic, facts and more sound arguments. To that I say "Tough Toenails."

Err on the side of letting more through if you must, but you have plenty of room to cut out a few of the more egregious insults without impinging on anyone's free speech. "

cm wrote on Dec 4, 2008 9:23 AM:

" I have to agree with Jeremy here!
I have gone 'to battle' with some at times over issues, but it doesnt stop me from typing my views.
I have also learned some things too.

I dont think the name calling is anywhere close to what I have seen on he syracuse blogs or my gosh you should read some of the AOL comments!

You can be a better person and reply without name calling, or you can slam back! or just pick somwhere in the middle!

I would admit to saying someone is an IDIOT--but thats in my everyday volcabulary..to me that is not really name calling as it may seem to others.
(if you have ever watched 'everybody loves raymond' and debra says it to ray --thats how I say it)

yet some would take it to be offensive.
since we all dont really know each other on a personal close relationship basis, its hard to judge how one may interpret words!

and like Jeremy said--if it all really bothers you then dont read it..
but everyone has a right to voice their opinions! "

anonymous wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:04 AM:

" Hardly do they regulars "welcome the debate." Instead, they attack anyone that disagrees from the core group and quickly start attacking that person through namecalling and ridicule. If a person responds in kind, that comment does not get published. It almost seems from what I have seen in practice and now with your comments here that you want these posters to dominate the forum.



When are you going to return the 2 Cents to print? "

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