Trucking leaders meet with Paterson's office

By Christopher Caskey / The Citizen

Monday, December 1, 2008 11:46 PM EST

It took less than an hour for a convoy of truckers and trucking advocates to come and go through Skaneateles Friday. But participants are continuing the effort against a proposal that would keep them off some rural, upstate routes.
Sam Tenney / The Citizen
A sign posted along Route 20 in the town of Skaneateles decries the village's truck enforcement policies. Representatives from the trucking industry met Monday with officials from the governor's office and transportation department to discuss revisions to the proposal to keep non-local trucks off of rural roads.
That effort ended up in Albany on Monday as representatives from the state's trucking industry met with officials from Gov. Paterson's office to discuss the draft proposal.

The draft, which has already received some changes, still has a few steps to go before it can become an official set of regulations.

But industry leaders are still committed to making sure any rules will not hinder truckers.

Charlie Claburn, Northeast Regional Director for Truckers and Citizens United, who helped organize Friday's protest, said he and a handful of trucking advocates discussed concerns about how the proposal will financially affect them.

No agreements or changes were made, he said, and the organization will likely contact representatives in Washington to see if anything can be done at the federal level.

“I'm pretty confident it's all going to play itself out,” said Claburn after the meeting. “Right now, people are trying to make sure everyone's needs get met.”

Gov. Paterson announced the proposal for regulations during a visit in May to Skaneateles.

If passed, the regulations would keep long-distance, commercial trucks off of rural routes such as 41 and 41 A.

However, Route 20 - which runs through Skaneateles and was the road on which the truckers staged Friday's demonstration - would not be included.

The May announcement came after groups such as Upstate New York Safety Coalition Task Force lobbied for the changes. Downstate trucks hauling trash to upstate landfills take rural routes to save time and avoid tolls. Some residents and officials of area communities have said the trucks produce fumes and noise while creating environmental and safety hazards.

But Claburn said Monday that the protest in Skaneateles showed many people support the truckers' stance. It also showed how people can work together to make a point peacefully, he said. Claburn specifically commended Skaneateles Police Chief Lloyd Perkins for allowing the truckers to demonstrate without much interference.

“I understand that these citizens have legitimate concerns,” said Claburn, who added that it would “not be a good situation” if truckers looking for a quicker and more economic trip only had Route 20 as an option.

“The current regulations are only going to make things worse for Skaneateles,” he continued. “We're going to have to come up with a compromise here.”

The proposal still has a few steps before it becomes a set of laws, according to State Department of Transportation spokesperson Skip Carrier. The department is in the process of advancing the draft to the governor's Office of Regulatory Review. Once it is reviewed, it will be subject to a 45-day public comment period before becoming official, Carrier said.

After Friday's demonstration, Skaneateles Mayor and Upstate New York Safety Coalition Task Force participant Bob Green said the task force will continue to lobby for the regulations. The group consists of numerous leaders and citizens from communities throughout upstate New York, not just Skaneateles, he said.

In fact, proponents of the regulations met with officials in Albany two weeks ago, according to Green.

“We've gained attention of the state's leaders,” Green said.

Carrier said the truck issue is “tricky,” as the regulations need to preserve the quality of life in these upstate communities while maintaining a competitive economy throughout the state. State transportation officials have met multiple times with representatives from both sides to try and find a compromise, he said.

“This has been an honest, good-faith effort to come up with something that is workable and enforceable to address the problem,” Carrier said.

The governor's office did not return calls seeking confirmation of Monday's meeting. However, Carrier said the office has been in contact with the organizers of Friday's protest in recent days.

Staff writer Christopher Caskey can be reached at 253-5311 ext. 282 or christopher.caskey@lee.net.

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ImanIgnorant wrote on Dec 2, 2008 10:47 PM:

" "there are plenty of roads out there, so get off our once residential/ rural roads."

Fantastic idea, don't allow trucks into residential areas where your companies, restaurants, and businesses need them the most. Hey, great idea lets just have a pickup location for all our goods and have the owners travel to get them.

If the truckers are not allowed on rural routes or to go through residential route 20 lets just make them go on the main routes like 281, so a trip from oh say LaFayette? The trip from Lafayette to Geneva can take two hours going on these routes instead of one hour. Double the time, hmm lets think about that. Double the time, double the distance this equals? OH! I know this answer higher shipping prices for everyone on route 20 through Skaneateles.

Your right, this law is a great idea! On the plus side more gas, more tax money! "

logic wrote on Dec 2, 2008 6:19 PM:

" It's clearly obvious- the support of the protest in Skaneateles was a reaction to the police chief and the harassment of the local truckers- with the police continually ticketing Skaneateles firms who have been family businesses for several generations. That is not the intention of those who want the trucks off the highways in the area.

One local business man told me that he received a call from a trucker who was waiting outside of town and not interested in coming in to deliver- it must feel like running the guantlet as in the days of old.

If it were just the garbage trucks involved, it would have generated a smaller less supportive crowd.

Time that the leaders of Skaneateles consider changing the lead and direction of the department before they lose more of there own citizen's support! "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 2, 2008 5:24 PM:

" NIMBY "

nature lover wrote on Dec 2, 2008 4:08 PM:

" clout or is it money?!?

Do u live in America? Doesnt what has taken place make u realize democracy has taken place and that maybe elected officials are actually doing what it's constituents want? Several communities with 1000's of people of all income levels, race, faith, etc came together to protest that there is a force that is ruining the quality of life. Its like the balance of nature when one element becomes dominant over another - u shoot it down like a deer, correct? I mean what is it that people dont understand? It is NOT just Skaneateles, there are task forces in every county!! Become informed, know who is complaining, know what the law is that will take effect at the end of this month. Blurting out your rancid lines just to be obstinent doesnt even provide banter for a rational debate.

and the notion of people moving worded by one either has clout or money themselves. besides if we ALL moved where would we go? as I stated on earlier blogs virtually all of Auburn can hear trucks gearing down because they do as they please. When do we stop putting our tail between our legs and stand up for ourselves? then when we do and gov't works the party asked to comply with laws wants parties to uninforce said laws.

honestly there are plenty of roads out there, so get off our once residential/ rural roads. yes some are state routes and local trucks are fine but when all of a sudden its I95, one has to protest!! "

morals wrote on Dec 2, 2008 2:51 PM:

" It must be nice to have clout or is it money to have laws changed. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:39 AM:

" i.e. YOUR profit margin is not worth OUR quality of living, and the quality of living for generations to come when we are talking about environmental and infrastructure implications.

We have already made de facto compromises in our lives and homes -- time for the balance to swing. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:37 AM:

" Lots of people can't afford to just up and move when something doesn't suit them, nor should people have to. Instead of packing up and leaving the mess to others, they stick it out and fight to improve a bad situation.

Some day, if not already, corporate special interests (including the shipping industry) will have sway in every nook and cranny on the planet and there will be NO healthy place left for ANYONE to live. The time to say NO is now -- if it isn't already too late. "

movedsouth wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:17 AM:

" It is ironic that Skaneatles started this process and as a result will have more trucks running thru downtown. Route 41A could have helped that problem. Auburn will see more traffic on East Genesee because of 38 and 38A. Truckers exiting at Lafayette will travel further, but time shouldn't be impacted too much. No neighborhood stays the same forever, people have to adjust. I once moved from a new home in a new neighborhood after 2 years because the neighborhood didn't develop the way I thought it should. Generally people live where they want to, and if things change to your disliking, you either accept it or move. "

nature lover wrote on Dec 2, 2008 11:15 AM:

" yes u do sound ridiculous because I have a brand new chry 300. I do not haul trash and drive in excess of the speed limit or have safety violations to the tune of 100's even 1000's of dollars. nor do i damage infrastucture because i weigh too much and should not be on that road. public road does not equate to free reign. geez that public bldg downtown maybe i feel like setting up shop there or sleeping there, etc. the word public carries rules and regulations and laws that are put in place for "public" reasons and its just too bad so sad that the truckers dont think they should have any. like a bad puppy that gets a harness put on for the 1st time. the truckers will fuss a bit but they will get used to the LAW!!!!! "

qwerty1234 wrote on Dec 2, 2008 10:22 AM:

" Seriously nature lover?

So because it's a truck there should be rules against where it can and cannot go? It doesn't matter that it's a public road.

Well, I think your car is too old and puts out too much pollution. You shouldn't be able to drive on my road. You'll pollute the air...which is bad for the environment. In fact...your car is pretty ugly. i don't want it on my road.

Sound ridiculous? "

nature lover wrote on Dec 2, 2008 10:00 AM:

" wahhh me trucker me want to go where I please...give me a break! U go Upstate New York Safety Coalition Task Force and push back! Honestly all these communities complaining yet the truckers dont want to compromise whatsoever. R truckers oblivious to the demands of so many? and honestly that protest also showed MANY AGAINST them. it was about half and half if u had watched closely. "

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