State narrows truck restriction plans

By Jessica Soule / The Citizen

Friday, November 7, 2008 11:56 PM EST

Although a proposal has removed a main road from pending truck traffic regulations, local officials are pleased with the measure.
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State transportation officials significantly scaled back a proposal to limit truck traffic on rural roads in the Finger Lakes region, with the major change of removing Route 20 from the list of targeted roads.

Transportation Department planners this week released a revised set of proposed regulations that confines the restrictions to seven specific highway routes.

While Skaneateles Village Mayor Bob Green had not heard the latest development, he wasn't surprised. He had followed concerns about the previous proposal violating federal laws. The federal Highway Department contributes funds to maintain Route 20, thereby placing it under the umbrella of federal regulations, not state.

The proposal would apply to state Routes 41 and 41A, which will help cut the number of trucks coming from the south, Green said. He also is a member of the Upstate New York Safety Coalition Task Force, a group of Finger Lakes' government leaders who pushed for such regulations to cut the number of garbage trucks traveling from New York City to Seneca Meadows landfill.

“I think as long as 41 and 41A stay on the list, then the truck traffic through Skaneateles will be substantially reduced,” Green said.

Some trucks take shortcuts that have them traveling close to the region's lakes, a point of concern for many task force members.

Without the ability to travel on those two streets that run along Skaneateles Lake, garbage trucks would have to connect with Route 20 from Route 81 in Lafayette. This path is hilly and not economical for the trucks, so Green still expects to see a decline in trash carriers.

State officials initially proposed making big trucks stick to interstates and other major highways and use lesser routes only when those roads are the only paths to and from their destinations, or under exceptional conditions such as severe weather.

Charles Carrier, a DOT spokesman, said Friday the agency narrowed the proposal in part because federal officials said the first plan might conflict with federal highway guidelines.

“I think this process has gone well. I think it's been slower than expected, but I think the DOT has been doing a thorough job,” Green said of drafting this proposal. “As long as it keeps moving forward, we're happy.”

Crews would post signs on the routes that would be off-limits to trucks. Drivers who are caught driving on them without a good reason would face fines ranging between $150 and $450 and up to 90 days in jail.

Carrier said the state aims to implement the new regulations by the end of this month.

The struggle to regulate truck traffic on rural routes has received national attention, especially from the trucking industry, which has mostly criticized the effort.

Green said those in the industry weren't interested in discussing or addressing people's concerns until the state Department of Transportation became involved.

“I can understand their side. It's economics,” Green said. “They are trying to make money.”

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fedupstate wrote on Nov 9, 2008 12:25 AM:

" These poor guys are just trying to make a living like everyone else all you people can do is complain. EVERYTHING is shipped by truck one way or another even if at some point it is on a ship or rail car it WILL end up on a truck. I would like to see some of you drive a truck some day there job is hard and stressfull enough dealing with all the soccor mokms on the road and now they have to deal with this BS too. let them alone so they can make a living like everyone else. "

1957 wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:35 PM:

" Obviously those who are in favor of letting the trucks have free reign of the highways do not live on a major truck route. It really sucks when you're kept awake all night by garbage trucks continually rolling by...It is hard to walk animals, walk or ride bikes also. Extremely dangerous also. Let them stick to the major highways like the other truckers do. None of the others are complaining. Good riddance to the nasty garbage trucks... "

mchammer wrote on Nov 8, 2008 5:46 PM:

" When and if this bill passes, it's going to make all prices go up for goods in our grocery stores and convenience stores. It's a no win especially with today's economy. Routing distribution trucks sometimes 20 miles out of the way to make a delivery will not only cost us more, but force small business in your neighborhood to close up shop. Now you have an eye sore. The problem doesn't stem from the trucking industry, it comes from our states represenatives and our taxes. You should be praising the trucking industry for what they do and how difficult their jobs are. It's your local government that makes deals with industry to haul trash and scrap up here from the city to make an extra buck. "

nature lover wrote on Nov 8, 2008 5:44 PM:

" Ethan the trucker, welcome to the hope of a 2nd new age of railroads! Half the income in this house is thru CSX which is growing exponentially. I say let the truckers be subserviant to the rail industry and there will be less polution, expense, etc etc. And um skidrow, the fuel is down so what else would u like to compalian about? There is NOOOOOOOO reason trash haulers have to come thru neighborhoods to get to Seneca Meadows...nuff said. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Nov 8, 2008 4:53 PM:

" Maybe it will make manufacturers think twice before shipping things so far in the first place. All good. "

ethan wrote on Nov 8, 2008 3:09 PM:

" you all thought the cost of things are expensive now ... wait till the trucks have to go futher to deliver, fuel cost .. how do I know ? I am a trucker. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Nov 8, 2008 1:19 PM:

" We already pay those prices in the taxes we pay to repair road damage done by heavy truck traffic. Better to be given the choice of buying more local goods instead of stuff trucked all over than to be forced involuntarily to pay for truck traffic in our taxes.

Maybe we will finally wise up as a country and start moving goods across country by rail instead of truck. It will require a reinvestment in the rail infrastructure, but it is a much more fuel efficient and cost effective way to move goods long distances. And if it puts truckers out of work, they can pick up jobs on the railroad. "

Unknown... wrote on Nov 8, 2008 12:30 PM:

" I am so glad!! This will keep these trucks out of my neighborhood. It was terrible with these trash trucks & trucks hauling scrap steel up & down my street all day & night. And I live by a stop sign, so it was even worse with the jake brakes, and engine noise from improperly muffled engines. Thank you so much!! Get it in place NOW!!! "

skidrow wrote on Nov 8, 2008 12:15 PM:

" Ready for prices to go up..that is everything delivered by trucks...ready for unemployment to go up...companies that ship by truck are going to find it even harder to compete with competetors in other states, which will mean work force cuts...want new industies to come to the area..ya right..but hey it will be nice and quiet..what ever happen to common sence....truckers are not going to eat the cost of taking longer routes....you are. "

skidrow wrote on Nov 8, 2008 11:54 AM:

" Just think....cost of goods in stores will go even higher,Company's shipping their items will go higher..with possible layoffs..due to not being able to compete with their competetors in other states...but hey it won't be noisey ...this is a great way to bring industry to the region...right...lol "

justventing wrote on Nov 8, 2008 10:11 AM:

" Hey can we stop the trucks on Havens Ave too? I am tired of them going on the street going and coming from Dickmans making noise in the early AM and it seems to be increasing. "

nature lover wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:25 AM:

" What an utterly ignorant comment, shoemaker187. This is an issue that has been plaguing everyone so what does political party have to do with it? If u were more informed, u would have read the article the citizen had yesterday listing the MANY roads that will be proposed "off limits" for trucks - hopefully the trash haulers. Skaneateles is featured here TODAY because they had something to say about it 1st. I am sure Aurora, Watkins Glen and oh yes, Auburn will be happy about the LIST of roads. SO for your variety of location pleasure, we live in Auburn and THAT is not Skaneateles. -GROW UP- Whats your beef w/that town anyway, how moronic!!! "

Yikes wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:14 AM:

" What a giant crock of hooey!!!

This does nothing more than force trucks to use the NYS Thruway and pay the excessive tolls they charge on top of the excessive highway use taxes that trucking outfits already pay.

I didn't see any mention in this article when and by how much NYS plans to reduce the highway use tax because of the limited number of roads truckers can now use.

Does anyone know? Will this information be forthcoming? "

shoemaker187 wrote on Nov 8, 2008 6:52 AM:

" Real nice, give skaneateles what they want to protect there precious little town. The world is changing folks, the dems won the presidency, skaneateles will get what is coming to them. "

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