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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:33 AM EDT

Please, please, please - someone explain why Social Security can go broke but not Wall Street executives.



When will the city remove the ugly tree stump from NYSEG property on Throop Avenue?

All of these negative comments about the presidential candidates confirms my original opinion. Hillary was the "best man" for the job.

I would rather be dead before I'd vote for McCain and Palin. I'm not a bigot, I support Obama.

When does the weekend officially begin and end? Where do I park on Friday at 7 p.m. and on Sunday at 7 p.m. ?




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cm wrote on Sep 27, 2008 10:12 PM:

" I was in Target the other day, and the same comments kept being repeated:
"already? it's not even October! Can you believe this?"

....Christmas items, 4 aisles full !!! "

cm wrote on Sep 27, 2008 9:58 PM:

" THANKS FG!
My boys with their girlfriends and the grandkids took me to dinner at Olive Garden. I havent been there in many many years. It was very delicious!
I usually go right next door to Red Lobster, from now on I will alternate!

My older daughter couldnt attend, she and her boyfriend went to Orlando for the Halloween screamfest at Universal, it is also her boyfriends birthday! "

horseradish wrote on Sep 27, 2008 4:00 PM:

" and for a farmer's gal you surely don't seem to be able to handle farm life.

i live on the border of owasco and niles, i think i know a lil bit about it. "

horseradish wrote on Sep 27, 2008 3:59 PM:

" farmer's gal, have you ever lived in pennsylvania? if you have, you already realize why such laws need to exist there. :)

knowing that pennsylvania has such a law is not a good thing for your case :) "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 27, 2008 3:49 PM:

" The Pennsylvania thing is an example of what a State can do to insure the rights of its residents.

You see, in the past couple years, communities in PA (and now also in some other states, including several in New Hampshire and one in NYS) have begun passing ordinances to protect the public health when the larger government refuses to do anything to curb corporate greed, even when it means destruction of environment, community and individual health.

It is usually written into the laws of States that it is the duty of government to "protect the health, safety, and welfare of a community." These communities (rightfully!) see how the State is NOT doing its duty and are taking it upon themselves, taking a stand, and fighting it in court that We The People have a right to take over that duty when the State fails.

Interestingly, the court upheld their law, as the application of sewage sludge/biosolids/human waste was deemed NOT to be part of the "normal agricultural operation" of corporate farms which the State sees as its duty to defend (over and above the rights of individual human persons and communities) -- however, the State continues to deny that The People have a right to local self-government.

It may not be a battle which is happening here -- yet -- but perhaps it should. Sewage sludge is being spread on farms barely outside the city limits of Auburn, so if you are headed that way, you are already breathing it, it's already in your air and water and soil, and it is making its way into YOUR food chain -- anything and everything that goes down the drain and toilet. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 27, 2008 3:40 PM:

" Happy Birthday, cm! Sorry I was slow to send the greeting. I made the mistake of going into town to pick up something I had ordered through the Lincoln Gallery downtown. Then I got stuck as people were clearing out of St. Mary's. Finally someone let me make a U-turn to get to take Genesee across South to the arterial east. Just about then, the marine's funeral began down South St on its way to the cemetary and I got stuck again. After sitting with my engine off for about 15 minutes while miles of cars passed, I started jockeying to get turned around -- if the girl in the car behind me hadn't pressed her vehicle almost up against my bumper, it would have been easy. I FINALLY got out of town, but can tell you first-hand that the young man's funeral was extremely well-attended, with many police and service men and women at every intersection standing at attention and helping with the traffic control.

Another brave young man who should not even have been placed in a position to die -- for all the wrong reasons. No fault of his, but you've heard that part from me before. May his family find peace. "

cm wrote on Sep 27, 2008 2:08 PM:

" Karl: you surprised me?! I expected to wake up and see your debate posts, and nothing?
you sick today? maybe I should send ya a McCain 'sweater' lol... "

cm wrote on Sep 27, 2008 2:06 PM:

" I was to sad to see the news about Paul Newman.
I have a thing for eyes, and he had some pretty baby blues.

In our paper they list celebs birthdays, yesterday Olivia Newton-John turned 60, today Shaun Cassidy 50..
its sometimes hard to realize how our fads have aged!

ps--no I wasn't goo-goo eyes over shaun cassidy-my sis was, I was such a nice big sis, I took her to his concert at the state fair!
Vinnie Barbarino/Johm Travolta was/is my stud--lol "

cm wrote on Sep 27, 2008 1:59 PM:

" THANKS KARL, and I have a McCain/palin onr for you, and I already know your address! hahaha

Yes baby! I plan to eat a huge piece of chocolate cake layered with chocolate fudge!
I have been Special K'ing it for 3 weeks, it is Sooo time to splurge! "

horseradish wrote on Sep 27, 2008 1:58 PM:

" hey farmers gal? when did we move to pennsylvania? "

karl again... wrote on Sep 27, 2008 1:12 PM:

" cm, have a Happy Birthday!
I've got an "Obama '08" shirt here to send ya as a gift; just get your address to me somehow, and I'll send it right along!
Don't eat too much cake! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 27, 2008 12:22 PM:

" "He was smiling... That's right. You know, that, that Luke smile of his. He had it on his face right to the very end. Hell, if they didn't know it 'fore, they could tell right then that they weren't a-gonna beat him. That old Luke smile. Oh, Luke. He was some boy. Cool Hand Luke. Hell, he's a natural-born world-shaker."
--Cool Hand Luke died today...Paul Newman...hope he had that smile on him right to the very end...
Rest easy, Luke...
("Cool Hand Luke" was a role that I REALLY could relate to!) "

cm wrote on Sep 27, 2008 11:39 AM:

" I watched the procession of the soldier on syracuse.com, gave me goosebumps.
For those involved that aided in this tribute-Thank-you!!

on another note:
are we all amazed at this Nebraska Abandoned child law? I wonder how many parents in the other states wished their state had this tiny loophole?!

I used to/still do tell my kids IF you want a baby-GET A DOG, you wont go to jail when you put them to sleep!
(just kidding-but they got the point)
MY pets are very spoiled! As well as my kids, in a rewarding way, for they are great kids! "

cm wrote on Sep 27, 2008 11:29 AM:

" movedsouth: THANK-YOU!!!
my oldest daughter said I need to spiff up my choice of clothes, I am usually a shorts/tanktop/flipflop kind.
last week I went to the beach and was sunburned, but its a great tan right now. I pulled out a mini-skirt with a cute spaghetti strap.
The kids are in awe!!!
MOM is NOT looking 47 today!! hahaha "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 27, 2008 8:23 AM:

" Farmer Guy knew a talking dog once -- the dog was owned by some local fella and hung out in one of these small bars -- the Betty Blue, or the Genoa Hotel or some place like that, and made sounds like words -- I'll have to ask him again which bar and what was the dog's name and how long ago was this. I guess the dog really "talked" -- in understandable English. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 27, 2008 8:22 AM:

" Here's an interesting tidbit:

Article 1, Section 2 of the Pennsylvania Constitution, which states: “All power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority
and…they have at all times an inalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform, or abolish their government in such manner as they may think proper.”

Local Townships are fighting for the right to pass ordinances banning the spreading of "sewage sludge" or "biosolids" (marketing names for human waste and everything else which goes down our drains) on farm fields. The State Atty General is acting as attorney for the corporations against the people -- how's that for a perversion of justice? "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 27, 2008 5:21 AM:

" cm, HAPPY BIRTHDAY. Have a great day. "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 11:04 PM:

" excnyer: the arch sound like an interesting stop..
we used to take 48 hr road-trips from CA to NY..with 3 kids, in a Chevy Blazer! Those were the days!
On the way back to CA--if we had the time-we would stop at everything!
One year we left NY on news years eve and celebrated it in 2 different time zones!
have a fun weekend! "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:53 PM:

" someone had asked Obama a question, in his reply he said '57 states' not 50

He must have been a tad tired that day...I would hope a Harvard grad IS smarter than a 5th grader! "

excnyer wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:48 PM:

" If any of you ever get a chance to visit St. Louis, you MUST go to the Gateway Arch. The free museum in the "basement" of the arch is extremely informative and intersting. The view from the top of the arch is awesome! We wished we had been able to spend more than an afternoon in St. Louis. Maybe on our return trip back from California! "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:45 PM:

" sorry karl I was distracted by the debate--NOT....lol
hillarys commeents should have been in right after Obamas 1st comment.


CLINTON: ... And in New York, there are more than the two parties, Democratic and Republican. And one of the parties at that time, the Independence Party, was under the control of people who were anti-Semitic, anti- Israel. And I made it very clear that I did not want their support. I rejected it.....But I would not be associated with people who said such inflammatory and untrue charges against either Israel or Jewish people in our country.....But at the time, I thought it was more important to stand on principle and to reject the kind of conditions that went with support like that.

RUSSERT: Are you suggesting Senator Obama is not standing on principle?

CLINTON: No. I'm just saying that you asked specifically if he would reject it. And there's a difference between denouncing and rejecting. And I think when it comes to this sort of, you know, inflammatory -- I have no doubt that everything that Barack just said is absolutely sincere. But I just think, we've got to be even stronger. We cannot let anyone in any way say these things because of the implications that they have, which can be so far reaching.

OBAMA: Tim, I have to say I don't see a difference between denouncing and rejecting.... "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:31 PM:

" I have 3 dogs and 4 cats. I think they are both smart in their own ways.
Gizmo who is the outside guard cat, is the one that loves to trip us! He bites our legs if we dont feed him now!
After he eats he has this meow that nearly speaks 'open the door'!
Gator is scared of his own shadow, he lives in his basket.
Sox is huge, and the most playful, he is the hunter. he tries to paw the door open.
Little one-sox sister, is the spoiled baby! She loves to be held like a baby and will ride on my shoulders! She hides then attacks us when we walk by her! She loves to sit on the roof of the house.

our dogs can spell too! they let nothing or no one onto the property.
Tia is my dog, she sleeps with me, and I call her when I am out of town, if not she refuses to eat!
Lulu is all about attention. when she wants in the bedroom she will race down the hall and ram her body into the door-if ignored she continues ramming!
Cosmo is the only male we have owned that WILL NOT attack when the girls were in heat. He does NOT like puppies, for the try to nurse on him! lol..

The girls nursed and cared for Sox & Little One--these 2 cats act more like dogs!
like us--they each have their own personalities... "

karl again... wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:08 PM:

" cm----HUH?!
Your 8:50 post makes NO SENSE.
I see nothing troubling in the gobbledygook you've posted.
It's like word salad.
You've posted comments completely out-of-context, and I don't have an idea what you're carping on about "How many States we have"---as if that means ANYTHING at all any way--but I guess that that's something important to you?
Weak. "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 8:50 PM:

" From the February 26 MSNBC Democratic primary debate:
What do you do to assure Jewish Americans that, whether it's Farrakhan's support or the activities of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, your pastor, you are consistent with issues regarding Israel and not in any way suggesting that Farrakhan epitomizes greatness?

OBAMA: Tim, I have some of the strongest support from the Jewish community in my hometown of Chicago and in this presidential campaign. And the reason is because I have been a stalwart friend of Israel's. I think they are one of our most important allies in the region, and I think that their security is sacrosanct, and that the United States is in a special relationship with them, as is true with my relationship with the Jewish community.

it was true in my U.S. Senate campaign, and it's true in this presidency -- is because the people who know me best know that I consistently have not only befriended the Jewish community, not only have I been strong on Israel,

OBAMA: Tim, I have to say I don't see a difference between denouncing and rejecting.

DENOUNCE:
to pronounce especially publicly to be blameworthy or evil
to announce threateningly
to inform against
to announce formally the termination of (as a treaty)

REJECT:
to refuse to accept, consider, submit to, take for some purpose, or use to refuse to hear, receive, or admit.

karl: send Obama an atlas showing how many states there are--and buy him a dictionary!
Harvard grad??? "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 8:44 PM:

" NEWSWEEK: Sep 2, 2008:
Wasilla Bible Church, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her family, regularly attend services there, and have done so for the last six years or so.


Wasilla Assembly of God, says Palin often publicly thanks Riley--now nearly 80 and still working as a prison chaplain--for bringing her to Jesus when she visits the church. She attended that Pentecostal church until she was 38 years old, when she switched to Wasilla Bible Church, saying she preferred the children's ministries there.
palin born February 11, 1964..

karl:
why should she denounce a church she doesn't attend? "

nature lover wrote on Sep 26, 2008 8:01 PM:

" Cats may strut around like Madonna but that doesnt necessarily mean there is much upstairs. Many studies have been done on dogs and their intelligence level in comparion to children and dogs rate very highly. U would have to meet our dog, who has a vast vocabulary and can spell! Actually just the word 'cat' as he detests them so. In order to not rile him when we see a feral we dont use the word cat or spell it but rather say feline now which he hasnt figured out yet.

But I ramble...TGIF ! Kabuki was delicious as usual tonight...enjoy your weekend!! Debating on the debate... "

13579 wrote on Sep 26, 2008 5:09 PM:

" Dogs have masters, cats have staff. My (late) wife was the original "cat nut", owning 3 and feeding 4 more. 1 would come into our house, sleep on our bed and snore all night. When he wanted to go outside usually at 5:30 guess who had to put him out, me. When my dad dierd, I took hisv cat "goldy" in, & she lived another 6 years. Loved her!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 26, 2008 4:48 PM:

" P.S. Karl -- just so long as you don't catch them and dump those extra kitties at Farmer Guy's farm -- he has too many already. We are doing our part -- if the HUMANS in your neighborhood had done their part, you wouldn't have the problem and might not feel so Boo-ish towards kitties. Blame the irresponsible people, not the cats. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 26, 2008 4:47 PM:

" Cats are smart enough to have minds of their own, as opposed to dogs, bless 'em, who are only too eager to do whatever you tell them to do, whether they really want to or not! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 26, 2008 3:03 PM:

" Oh don't get me wrong, Farmer's Gal! It's still a "Boo to cats" world for me!
That little piece just shows WHY it's "Boo" to cats--they're sneaky, conspiratorial, treacherous....just like the strays running all around my house!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! "

nature lover wrote on Sep 26, 2008 2:55 PM:

" Cats are NOT more intelligent than dogs..puhleeze!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 26, 2008 2:15 PM:

" And I thought you didn't like cats, Karl -- they are obviously the more intelligent, though dogs can be awfully nice to have around as ego-boosters and unquestioning followers. :-) Actually, I am fond of both. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 26, 2008 1:29 PM:

" OK, humor time--I found this on a site, and had to post it here--it's one of the funniest things I've ever read!
Excerpts from a Dog's diary:

8:00 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
9:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
9:40 am - OH BOY! A WALK! MY FAVORITE!
10:30 am - OH BOY! A CAR RIDE! MY FAVORITE!
11:30 am - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
12:00 noon - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
1:00 PM - OH BOY! THE YARD! MY FAVORITE!
1:30 PM - ooooooo. bath. bummer.
4:00 PM - OH BOY! THE KIDS! MY FAVORITE!
5:00 PM - OH BOY! DOG FOOD! MY FAVORITE!
5:30 PM - OH BOY! MOM! MY FAVORITE!

Excerpts from a Cat's diary

DAY 752 - My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre
little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh
meat, while I am forced to eat dry cereal. The only
thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and
the mild satisfaction I get from ruining the
occasional piece of furniture. Tomorrow I may eat
another house plant.

DAY 761 - Today my attempt to kill my captors by
weaving around their feet while they were walking
almost succeeded, must try this at the top of the
stairs. In an attempt to disgust and repulse these
vile oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit
on their favorite chair...must try this on their bed.

DAY 765 - Decapitated a mouse and brought them the
headless body, in attempt to make them aware of what I
am capable of, and to try to strike fear into their
hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a
good little cat I was...Hmmm. Not working according to
plan.

DAY 768 - I am finally aware of how sadistic they are.
For no good reason I was chosen for the water torture.
This time however it included a burning foamy chemical
called "shampoo." What sick minds could invent such a
liquid? My only consolation is the piece of thumb
still stuck between my teeth.

DAY 771 - There was some sort of gathering of their
accomplices. I was placed in solitary throughout the
event. However, I could hear the noise. More
importantly I overheard that my confinement was due to
MY power of "allergies." Must learn what this is and
how to use it to my advantage.

DAY 774 - I am convinced the other captives are
flunkies and maybe snitches. The dog is routinely
released and seems more than happy to return. He is
obviously a half-wit. The bird on the other hand has
got to be an informant, and speaks with them
regularly. I am certain he reports my every move. Due
to his current placement in the metal room his safety
is assured. But I can wait; it is only a matter of
time...... "

karl again... wrote on Sep 26, 2008 12:12 PM:

" cm, I'm still waiting for Palin to denounce the Witch Hunter and leave her church...?
tick...tock....tick...tock....
Oh and remember the pastor whom McCain had actively sought endorsement from?
Remember the Reverend Parsley?!
"McCain introduced Parsley as "one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide. (Parsley is a preacher of the "Prosperity Doctrine") Prosperity preachers tell their followers that if they "sow a seed" -- in other words, donate to the televangelist -- they will "reap a harvest," or get a supernatural return on their investment. The promise of God's blessing in return for lining the preachers' pocket is the movement's organizing principle, bolstered by promises that believers are "little gods" who possess "revelation knowledge" entitling them to ignore the media and academia, and the ability to positively confess things -- that is, just say, 'in the name of Jesus, that Cadillac is mine!'
(So much for McCain looking out for the Middle Class!)
"...Parsley claimed he had healed a baby born without a brain"
"...When Parsley was revealed to have spewed BIGOTRY from his pulpit, many people wondered if McCain had a "pastor problem" like Obama's supposed problem with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. The rejoinder from the McCain camp was that he was not responsible for every sentence uttered by people who endorse his candidacy."
OH! And WAIT! Let's not forget the good Reverend Hagee!
"...attention has been paid to the endorsement of Republican presidential candidate John McCain by controversial Texas televangelist John Hagee. Hagee has voiced extreme anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish and anti-homosexual views. In a September 2006 interview on National Public Radio, Hagee reaffirmed his view that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment against New Orleans for hosting a homosexual parade. Hagee has also said that the Jews brought the Holocaust upon themselves by "turning away from the true God." He referred to Catholicism as a "false cult," and said the religion contributed to Hitler's anti-semitic views. When Hagee endorsed him, McCain said he was "proud" to have the pastor's support."
FOR EVERY SILLY "PASTOR PROBLEM" YOU'VE GOT, cm, i'VE GOT TWO TO HIT YOU BACK WITH!
Here's the difference--I'm not using my posts to disguise the REAL reasons I won't vote for a candidate! "

longboard315 wrote on Sep 26, 2008 11:16 AM:

" " steve dallas, cm, movedsouth--what about your girl Palin?
Ya got NUTHIN'--DON'TCHA?!
NUTHIN'!!!
Your lack of commentary on the very salient points I have made is proof of that!
And how about McCain? The general consensus is that he mucked-up that whole bail out deal yesterday, and that he shoulda stayed OUT of Washington.
Boy, did Letterman let him have it
Playing politics with the taxpayers' money?
Not very presidential AT ALL! "


I hear ya Karl....McCain & Palin - USELESS on all accounts! hillarious, and so very, very true. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 26, 2008 10:38 AM:

" God failed to bless that Marine's family, but maybe S/He can give them some comfort after the fact. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 26, 2008 10:37 AM:

" steve dallas, cm, movedsouth--what about your girl Palin?
Ya got NUTHIN'--DON'TCHA?!
NUTHIN'!!!
Your lack of commentary on the very salient points I have made is proof of that!
And how about McCain? The general consensus is that he mucked-up that whole bail out deal yesterday, and that he shoulda stayed OUT of Washington.
Boy, did Letterman let him have it
Playing politics with the taxpayers' money?
Not very presidential AT ALL! "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 10:36 AM:

" karls says:
On the other hand, Barack denounced his minister and left that church--PROOF OF HIS GOOD, "PRESIDENTIAL" JUDGMENT N-O-W!

CM says:
In January 2008, Wright spoke from the pulpit in praise of Obama's leadership and comparing him to Jesus's struggles under the Romans, according to Fox television. "Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people," Wright said.

Obama on Friday March 14 2008 , was forced to denounce inflammatory remarks made by his pastor, Ku Klux Klan God damn America 2003 sermon
he drew the title of his book Audacity of Hope from one of his pastor's sermons
Obama wrote on the Huffington Post that he never heard Wright say any of the statements.
"Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good," Obama wrote.

Tues., April. 29, 2008: Wright made three public appearances in four days to defend himself.

"If Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected," Wright said. "Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls."

In a highly publicized speech last month, Obama sharply condemned Wright's remarks. But he did not leave the church or repudiate the minister himself, who he said was like a family member.

June `1 2008:

1st two lines of Obama's letter to church:
"We are writing to make official our decision to end our membership at Trinity. We make this decision with sadness."

***Obama suddenly 'sees the light' a mere 3 MONTHS AGO!

*** had he not run for President, Obama would have stayed in that church forever. "

nature lover wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:47 AM:

" McCain doing his job? Thats a joke. He and Obama sat on that committee last nite like mutes on the actual process of lawmaking. They actually slowed down the process as it was claimed they were ready to write the bill and too many ?'s were posed by the two mostly absent senators. And now WaMu goes belly up - and its the republicans that are holding up the bill. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:11 AM:

" karl again wrote, "On the other hand, Barack denounced his minister and left that church--PROOF OF HIS GOOD, "PRESIDENTIAL" JUDGMENT N-O-W!" That's just what we need a president that takes 20 years to realize something is wrong. You really made a good point about Obama. "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 9:07 AM:

" karls says:
This woman (Palin) sounds like an IDIOT when she speaks.

CM says:
has anyone told obama that there are 50 states and not 57? "

stevedallas wrote on Sep 26, 2008 8:50 AM:

" Then karl and palin have something in common? LOL "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 26, 2008 7:04 AM:

" John McCain bails on debate. A few economists believe that this financial crisis is real, is it possible that he's going to DC to do his job? After all, that IS what he is getting paid for. "

cm wrote on Sep 26, 2008 6:49 AM:

" Procession for the soldier coming home today and then funeral tomorrow-
Karl and AJ maybe you should get our your video cameras and see how many Auburn citizens support their troops!

God Bless the family. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:30 PM:

" READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE, PEOPLE!!!
From the Citizen's own link:

"In the interview with CBS News anchor Katie Couric, Palin said: "It's funny that a comment like that was, kind of made to ... I don't know, you know? Reporters ..."

Couric said, "Mock?"

"Yeah," Palin said, "mocked, I guess that's the word, yeah."

When Couric asked how Alaska's closeness to Russia enhanced her foreign policy experience, Palin said, "Well, it certainly does because our ... our next-door neighbors are foreign countries." Alaska shares a border with Canada.

Now REEEALLY, people!
This woman sounds like an IDIOT when she speaks, and need I say more about her "foreign policy experience"?!?
Honestly--I'm rolling on the floor!
LMFAO!!!! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:26 PM:

" cm, Palin's embrace of that looney preacher's "witchcraft blessing" is EXTREMELY relevant. It shows her LACK OF JUDGMENT as recently as only July!
Has she renounced him since then? Even though his well-documented "witch hunt" resulted in the ruination of an innocent woman?
NO!
Witch hunts are just as silly, stupid, and destructive today as they were in the Middle Ages--but then again, that's where Palin's religion is firmly rooted, so that is no surprise I guess?
On the other hand, Barack denounced his minister and left that church--PROOF OF HIS GOOD, "PRESIDENTIAL" JUDGMENT N-O-W!
Honestly though, I think it's hilarious the hoops you are jumping through to try to justify your REAL reasons for not being able to vote for Obama. But what's REALLY funny is that THAT'S ALL YOU'VE GOT!
And BTW, Barack didn't get anyone pregnant at 17 either.
Try again, cm; try again....
Man, what a weak case! "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:00 PM:

" Ann Dunham, the mother of Obama:
1. Her family moved to Mercer Island, Washington, in 1956 so that Ann could attend the Mercer Island high school that had just opened,where teachers Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman taught the importance of challenging societal norms and questioning authority.
(explains his drug years and his 'need' of a racist pastor in his life)

2. married Obama Sr. February 2, 1961,after discovering she was pregnant.
On August 4, 1961, at age 18, she gave birth to Obama.
(very similar to Palins daughter)

3. Dunham,s 2nd marriage, Lolo Soetoro, who work as a government relations consultant with Mobil Corporation.
(hmm...ties to big oil )

4. she worked as a consultant in Pakistan.

5. A...Obama's sister said:
"I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic.
B...1995 memoir Dreams from My Father Barack Obama wrote:
"My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess... In a land [Indonesia] where fatalism remained a necessary tool for enduring hardship..
C....2006 book The Audacity of Hope Obama wrote, "I was NOT raised in a religious household.
D....In 2007 Obama described his mother as "a Christian from Kansas." "I was raised by my mother," he continued. "So, I’ve always been a Christian."
(FLIPPY-FLOPPY)
In an interview, Barack Obama referred to his mother as "the dominant figure in my formative years... The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics."

did Obama come from BAD parents? "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:09 PM:

" I came across this site--

A liberal seeing both sides:

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=265 "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:07 PM:

" karl: heres what I agree with on the video of Palin and the so-called withcraft prayer:
Witchcraft is in many parts of Africa to this day, as is, Voodoo, Santaria in Haiti, Puerto Rico and Macumba in Brazil.
Muthee’s blessing was his cultural understanding of evil.

1. Palin did NOT pick the pastor to speak at the church ,as Obama WANTED Wright to speak before he 'denounced' him.
2. Palin left this church on her own, NOT forced out by the media/camelot/or public opinion.
3. Palin did NOT sit/listen/being mentored by this VISITING pastor. for 20+yrs--the say she never heard racist sermons.
4. Palin did not give this pastor Gov.grants with tax-payers monies.
5. Palin was also NOT in public office when this blessing/prayer was given.

This one time prayer from a visiting pastor isn't worth talking about compared to 20+ yrs mentor of Obama =American white racist preacher=Wright. "

Dr_Paul wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:20 PM:

" I've been trying to log on the county website for a few days now. I thought I had a browser hijacker after getting sent to a search site that I've never seen before. I just spent an hour running a full system scan for spyware and viruses. It would only make sense that if the county was putting up a new site that they would have it ready before taking the old one down. Anyone know what's going on? "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:58 PM:

" Oh my GOD, people!
I'm not making this up!
Did any of you see the excerpts from Palin's interview with Katie Couric?!
OH MY GOD!
Couric asked her very seriously if the fact that Russia was 50-some miles from her town REALLY bolstered her foreign affairs experience.
"Yes' answered Palin!
COACH, DAN W-ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?! "

Sensible wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:38 PM:

" Did anyone notice that Cayuga County's website is no more? www.co.cayuga.ny.us now resolves to some search engine. Did someone forget to reregister the domain? "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:50 PM:

" 1. It's not so much a question of temper, but rather if someone has control of his (hers) -- McCain has demonstrated on MANY OCCASIONS that he does not, even when his own life was at stake, never mind the lives of thousands and millions of Americans.

And, actually, there are lots of people with very little temper -people come with all kinds of personality types, and the "hothead" is not a good choice as a leader.

2. You previously mentioned that Palin's daughter wanted the pregnancy -- my point was the same as yours now -- that we don't know and can't assume.

Meanwhile, I see McCain is taking lessons from "Caribou Barbie" in terms of dodging questions -- except he is taking to a whole 'nother level -- what previous presidential candidate tried to weasel his way out of a debate by suddenly noticing that senators have business to which to attend back in DC?!?!???

What a wuss -- does he think we are stupid and are going to buy that ploy?!?? Oh, wait, as an aggregate, we are that stupid.... "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 3:35 PM:

" chris van note wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:03 AM:
" AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 7:18 AM:

" I'm very disappointed. Why is noone rooting for either Nader or McKinney? "

Nader definately has done some good over the years, but he's not presidential material.
McKinney is an anti-semetic, race card playing. 9/11 troofer whack job.

Naomi Wolf apparantly is off her meds again. "

Yes of course she is CVN. I would be too if I knew what she does. Well, actually I have known for a long time what she knows now - it's great that she was able to put together a book and warn us.

You're living in a weird world CVN, one which does not seem to appreciate the truth. This is not unexpected given the relentless push by the fascists in the last 30 years.. "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 3:24 PM:

" Did anyone here see where AJ said Clinton was a scumbag? Hmm. I guess that's old news. I would agree, but I think it is relevant.

With the Hegelian Dialectic firmly at work, I think we can all be certain that they create all the problems and have all the solutions. The only problem is is that we all get scr#wed in the process.

Oh well! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 3:01 PM:

" "On a visit to the church in June 2008, Palin spoke fondly of the Kenyan pastor and told a group of young missionaries that Muthee's prayers had helped her to become governor."
"MUTHEE'S PRAYERS HAD HELPED HER BECOME GOVERNOR"--Got Delusions, anyone?!?!
THIS IS THE "WITCHCRAFT PASTOR"!!!
cm, you want a whacko who believes in being rid of witches to be in the VP spot?!? "

nature lover wrote on Sep 25, 2008 2:58 PM:

" Thought that goofy McCain was gonna "suspend" his campaign d/t the economy crisis. His commercials are on the boob constantly - what a ploy! "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 1:55 PM:

" cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 12:54 PM:
" This 'red button' ideal is nothing more than a scare tactic..If ever it is pushed it wont be USA/RUSSIA/CHINA look more toward the middle east!

CM, what do you base this on? The middle east is certainly a dangerous place given that Israel has the BOMB, but if they ever launch one it will more likely than not be with the blessings of the USA. If not the Israeliscum, it will be U.S. (you do realize that the US is the only country that ever launched one, right?)

As for Obama, I'm not impressed. But I would much rather see him elected than McInsane McCain/Palin. I shudder at the thought. Danger Will, Danger!!!! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 1:49 PM:

" cm, I'm curious what your hypocrisy will say about Palin and the new video of her witch'hunter Reverend laying hands on her and asking God to protect her from "witchcraft"?!?!
She doesn't look like she's bound and tethered there while this fool works his "black magic".
How does your silly brain square THAT?!
I'd be more concerned that George W. Bush is in McCain's left ear, and Karl Rove is in his right ear.
Meanwhile, Sarah Palin has a witch-hunter in one ear, and her domineering husband pushing her buttons from the other--you HAVE heard that this guy sits in on policy meetings with her right?
What should we know about THIS guy?! "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 12:57 PM:

" true karl
Rev.Wright isn't running for Pres. well atleast in person,
behind the scenes he is the ear-piece in Obamas left ear, and the kennedys control Obamas right ear! "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 12:54 PM:

" This 'red button' ideal is nothing more than a scare tactic..If ever it is pushed it wont be USA/RUSSIA/CHINA look more toward the middle east!

We are all receiving "Obsession"
(radical islam's war against the west)
via 60 min DVD in our papers and mail..
I havent watched it yet..
but Karl must have, the front cover states:
AS SEEN ON CNN and FOX NEWS" "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 12:46 PM:

" Rainman: you might have something there, One of Obama's town halls in Fl 13,000 showed, Palin's last visit was 40,000+!
Florida will be the deciding factor as it has been for the past elections!

Sorry FG: but reality is, if you think Obama DOESN'T have a temper, then he would not be human.
He has been mentored for the past 20 yrs by a tempermental white racist!

just because we dont see it doesnt mean it does not exist!

palin's daughter--HER BUSINESS not ours.
and since we are NOT privy to the events, we shouldn't assume it wasnt wanted or planned!

I don't think kennedys/camelots puppet will aid the middle class either.

THE 536---need to cut the BS and get to work! "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM:

" rainman, clinton's foreign policy differed little from that of Bush's. What's your point? Frankly, and for this reason but not this reason alone, I thought Clinton was a scumbag. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:10 AM:

" When someone whips out the "antisemitic" label, I just shake my head. Most of the time, it's a misnomer, as Arabic peoples are also Semites, and I doubt that's what's meant when the term is thrown as an insult. And many Jews are NOT semitic, some are Ashkenazy, and some are from other racial and ethnic backgrounds all together.

Furthermore, a person can be anti-Israel without being anti-Jewish, just as Americans who love our country but loathe our government are not anti-American.

But, generally speaking, any time a candidate or any other individual criticizes Israeli policy, they are branded an "antisemite" and accused of being a "Nazi" -- thanks to the pervasive propaganda of the AIPAC and related special interest groups.

Nothing against Jewish people, including the Best Man at my wedding and any number of dear friends, but I do not have much good to say about the hypocritical and oppressive government of Israel -- and that does NOT make me an "antisemite." "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:08 AM:

" Rainman, for the sake of the U.S., I hope you are wrong. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:51 AM:

" Coach....hmmmm......ummmm....NAH--YOU'RE ignorant! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:50 AM:

" Rainman--fries or a shake with those words?
Cuz you're gonna have to eat 'em when Obama's president.... "

karl again... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM:

" cm, Rev Wright isn't running for president. 'Nuff said.
Palin's kid is FAIR GAME. If Palin was TRULY a concerned mother, than she should have realized that her entry into the race would have brought the scrutiny, and the well-deserved charges of the failure of Abstinence campaigns, but her ego wouldn't allow her to see that.
Her policies would force that role of young, unwed mothers on millions of teenaged girls if she were elected beside MCain--and WE'D be paying for it! "

Rainman wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:29 AM:

" Why do the leftist hyopocrites ignore the fact the Bill Clinton had zero foreign policy experience? I am not the typical socialist left winger who spends their days on this website and I can agree that he did a fine job on foreign policy. I love Auburn but NY's left wing politics are ruining the place. By the way we Republicans in Florida have a massive voter registration campaign going on that is completely under the radar of the Obama loving press. The people we are registering are actually eligible to vote. McCain/ Palin will win by at least 8 in Florida and win the Electoral College in a close one. "

Andy b wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:10 AM:

" I partially agree CM. All foreign aid should be stopped and moved into domestic energy production that will create jobs, increase security, and greatly improve our economy. "

nature lover wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:42 AM:

" cm asks: Why are they doing major road repairs so late in the year?

Because many roads were in need of resurfacing and repaving. Also the entire length of E Genny is almost complete and what a nice job they have done there. They are also working on Hoopes alot - a new BIG fountain was replaced in the lake (yes its a lake - forget the name, anyone? champlain or something) that is just beautiful. So along with the noise, there is the stench of asphault and delays in driving but its SO worth it. The city is looking great, alot of folks did painting, etc this is summer too. And we may have another movie made in the area. The SU (Ernie) one and now the one about Lincoln as seen thru his cabinet aka Seward reportedly t/b directed by Speilberg? The book it will be based on is available at the Seward House and my spouse just started to read it. Look at the positive!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:34 AM:

" Well, cm, if you think McCain is going to do anything good for the middle classes, you really are off-track. He's part of the wealthy/corporate elite and has their interests first, down the line. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:33 AM:

" Nicely --and succinctly-- put, carlred. Thanks! "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:22 AM:

" as I see it, there are 2 groups surviving the economy.
the rich and the poor..
the rich 2% of Americans, can still shop away and gas/food prices doesnt deter them from buying 200,000 cars.
the poor, already on the system, are basically grandfathered in for food/housing/medical costs.

the middle class--are the true sufferers! the loss of jobs, the high food/gas prices, and the mortgage woes,
should they get sick that is the final blow.
Our humanitarian aid should be halted to all other countries and put back into the working class/recently unemployed Americans. "

chris van note wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:03 AM:

" AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 7:18 AM:

" I'm very disappointed. Why is noone rooting for either Nader or McKinney? "

Nader definately has done some good over the years, but he's not presidential material.
McKinney is an anti-semetic, race card playing. 9/11 troofer whack job.

Naomi Wolf apparantly is off her meds again. "

carlred wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:02 AM:

" I served in Vietnam, and I strongly support Obama. The last thing you need in war is a hothead, "Country First" officer. You need a calm, competitive, smart personality - someone who will not sacrifice his men for his own ego masked as patriotism. I respect old man McCain. But he has no business taking over the leadership of this country with his current and easily- anticipated age deficits. His judgement has always been marred by his temper. But his choice of a VP is just plain irresponsible. "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:43 AM:

" I think Nader would be an honest leader, and stop the corruption in Washingtion. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:40 AM:

" We've had this discussion before, AJ -- the race is just too close to vote your heart for someone who is just not going to win the election, even as a (completely justified) protest against the lack of viable choices.

I have to do whatever I can to help keep McCain and Palin out of the White House, even though I am not terribly keen on Obama. This time around, it is just too close to use my one slim vote to protest the stinky situation. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:37 AM:

" We don't know if Palin's daughter wanted to be pregnant before she got in the family way or if she just decided to keep the child after the deed was done -- big difference there. Was she behaving responsibly with a plan to have a child and get married? Or was she careless and irresponsible and now making her choice how to deal with the consequences?

More likely the latter. She should be grateeful she HAS a choice. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:35 AM:

" Hanes should be fined for moving jobs out of the country, and there should be a tariff on their goods when they try to sell them here besides. THAT would slow down the way greedy corporations are stripping this country of jobs. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:34 AM:

" I have also sent documentation in regarding McCain's temper at other times in his life and career, not just while he was a POW, but it is telling all the same. Do you think the job of President of the United States is a low-stress job where a person can coast along and not be be under pressure? A President has to be the kind of person who doesn't have a temper even when he is under extreme pressure.

I mean, are we supposed to be forgiving if he presses the red button and wipes out half the population of the earth or more because he was under extreme stress and blew his top? Because he was having a "weak moment?" Because that could happen with someone who does not have control of his temper --and is known for his belligerent-first response to the smallest slight-- and is asking to be put in a position where something like that could come up.

His temper is the single most critical DISqualification for the Presidency of the US. "

coach51 wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:30 AM:

" Karl, in true liberal form you have responded to my posting. I am not ignorant nor non informed. I as all have a right to my opinion, and mine is based on being informed and listening to all. So maybe I am not the ignorant one, and I take offense to your comments. If you were more informed you would be asking as I have "where is all the money going to come from to fuel Obama's new social programs?" You have bolstered my argument that liberals are more into slander then the issues. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:22 AM:

" Can't back Nader, he had a lot to do with the demise of the Corvair! "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 7:18 AM:

" I'm very disappointed. Why is noone rooting for either Nader or McKinney? "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:52 AM:

" When will our government realise that this has to stop:

"Hanesbrands will close 9 plants, cut 8,100 jobs

The moves will eliminate the jobs of about 8,100 workers in the U.S. and Central America, while the company plans to add 2,000 jobs in Asia. Hanes has about 50,000 employees in 25 countries.

The maker of Hanes and Champion apparel said it is expanding production in Asia and consolidating into fewer and larger plants in lower-cost countries.

"Globalizing our supply chain, and eventually balancing production between Asia and the Western Hemisphere, is a critical plank in our strategic efforts to reduce costs, improve product flow and increase our competitiveness," said Hanesbrands Chief Executive Richard A. Noll in a statement."

That last section is corporateese for "...we're getting in on the slave labor racket, who cares about the American workers...."

The next move will be that they move whatever manufacturing that's left here, over to China within 5 years.

Our government has let us down totally, and it has to be stopped NOW. Yeah, there are those that will scream that it's protectionism, but those voices will be those of the corporatists. When will they realise that countries like China are waging an economic war against us?? America has been crippled by Big Business, and they have our leaders in their back pockets. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:45 AM:

" I'm glad I have a DVR. I don't know if I should watch Obama debating himself or McCain debating the bailout. I didn't realize that in approx 40 days that one of the two candidates will be responsible for the program. I THOUGHT the new President took over in January. "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:11 AM:

" Karl you are very wrong. I think anyone's kid should be left out of it!
The media does enough emotional damage to the parents, the kids need not be a part of the story.
I also agree the parents should NOT have the kids at a convention, or at a mock photo shoots coming out of a limo for school.

To add good parents have bad kids.

I was a rebel in my own way, I snuck out, I got drunk, I went to parties, I disobeyed the church..
My exception was-TO ME--my mom was COOL.
My dad grounded me once for 5 min.-my mom gave me a longer curfew!
my dad whooped my butt once (7 yrs old), my mom gave him a black eye and knocked out tooth.
I had very jealous friends, for my mom always let me skip school.
Looking back I DESERVED getting grounded & my butt spanked! lol

Today's teens are much harder to control. Drugs and weapons are far to easy to come by. Many parents live in fear depending on their kids
'level of rebellion'
1. some kids need visual punishment.
(watching their prize car SOLD)
2. some kids need hands on.
(get a twig and beat the stupid out of them) illegal today-yet needed!
3. but some kids take not-able-to-date to heart and shoot their parents!

Todays parents even have their rights taken away, in kindergarten they teach call 911 if your parents spank you!??
Todays parents have no aid for the extreme rebel child.

Todays parents are the first to blame when the extremist child pulls a gun! "

cm wrote on Sep 25, 2008 5:29 AM:

" Please Karl,
her daughter-SOON to be 18--and her daughters choices of wanting to pregnant and marry the father--IS IRRELEVANT.

Since you still attend family gatherings at your parents,I would think they were good parents but happen to have a rebel child. I am sure no matter what they did --thought was the right way to handle you--YOU DID what you wanted anyways!

REV WRIGHT is a white racist man..there is no dispute concerning his words & actions! "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 3:43 AM:

" Don't forget, "The fundamentals of our economy are strong!" - John McCain, September 15, 2008.

Sure, John. "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 3:26 AM:

" The new key word is "DISGORGEMENT"

I believe that no bailout would be fair to anyone without it.

Let's get our money back from the crooks as best we can. Then we can throw them in jail where they belong. Let the scum rot. Anyone disagree? "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 1:53 AM:

" cm wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:53 PM:
" FG: you always mention McCains temper at his weakest moment..
lets try locking you up in another country, in a cell, and then torture or starve you daily...fight back, always look for an opening or just cave to your new lifestyle for the next 5 yrs or so???

So what you are saying here, cm, is that just because he endured time in captivity, we are supposed to cut him slack? I really don't follow your logic at all. He's already been rewarded with decades in the Senate, an undeserved run at that. McCane is a crook and an unabashed liar, he is hot tempered (this was BEFORE his captivity), and should be nowhere near the presidency. It's amazing that he has gotten as far as he has. His voting record is pitiful at best. The man is not worthy of any consideration whatsoever. And don't even get me started on Palin, who would stand next in line!!!!! "

AJ wrote on Sep 25, 2008 1:45 AM:

" I haven't read this yet, but I trust Naomi so I am posting this before I read it. It looks like she's not just an empty suit.

Has Sarah Palin Been Picked as the Titular Head of the Coming Police State?

By Naomi Wolf, Huffington Post. Posted September 24, 2008.


Palin will help to establish a true and irreversible 'fear society' in this once free once proud nation. ...

http://www.alternet.org/story/100069/has_sarah_palin_been_picked_as_the_titular_head_of_the_coming_police_state/ "

brew1234 wrote on Sep 25, 2008 12:34 AM:

" The NY Times has refused to carry any coverage of the campaign of McSame and Palin until they give them an interview on the issues and for Palin her qualifications and scandals. A very brave and righteous stand in my view! Also Letterman tore McSame apart last night about this campaign suspension ploy to combat the dropping poll numbers. His point was if you want to look like Mr Presidential how about sending your VP candidate in your place? "

karl again... wrote on Sep 24, 2008 10:29 PM:

" cm, I don't read "Parent" magazine.
You're a hypocrite. You' be ALL OVER Obama if it was his kid. You have no credibility.
And I know that by now you're just jerkin' my chain with that "Reverend Wright" silly-stuff.
I won't even dignify it with a rebuttal. It's just so silly. "

cm wrote on Sep 24, 2008 10:03 PM:

" I had called my sis in Auburn today.
I wanted to reach thru the phone and beat the Jackhammer guy!

She is inside with doors and windows closed -yet the noise was as if they were drilling and about to repave her livingroom!

Why are they doing major road repairs so late in the year? The almanac says frost by Halloween!

PS. She doesnt drive, so I told her to grab a good book and hop on the bus and just ride around the city for 8 hrs!
I would have gone mad listening to it for an hour, let alone all week so far!
lol. "

cm wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:53 PM:

" FG: you always mention McCains temper at his weakest moment..
lets try locking you up in another country, in a cell, and then torture or starve you daily...fight back, always look for an opening or just cave to your new lifestyle for the next 5 yrs or so???

karl: Obama LACKS the "integrity"--you say McCain flips, and your worried about his 20 yrs 'in the know' (gov)

well how about Obamas 20 yrs 'in the know' with Rev Wright and his kind?

How about Obamas 'puppet-strings' being handled by Camelot with 40 yrs 'in the know'??
(I'd rather be what the American PUBLIC wants than be a Kennedy boy-toy)

WHO HERE has the BEST CREDIT SCORE ever?
then ask yourself WHY did Obama get a better interest rate on HIS house than you did?

Karl: when YOU become a parent, then you can respectfully comment on inadequacy of another parent!
reading this months "Parent" magazine doesn't count! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:02 PM:

" Oh, and uh....P.S....
GOBAMA!
GOAMA!
GOBAMA!!!!!! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:02 PM:

" dan w, your characterization of "anti-American" is as weak as it is pathetic.
How utterly ridiculous that you think that with all of McCain's wandering, lying, prevaricating, flip-flopping and the disgraceful tenor of his campaign, that you think it would be "anti-American" to NOT vote for this total charlatan!
Good Grief! It just hit me--you have NO idea what "anti-American" means, do you?!
Put your OWN sock in it, you commie... "

dan w wrote on Sep 24, 2008 8:53 PM:

" John MCcain and Sarah Palin in 08.

Question on this comment "I've written here before -- repeatedly -- about McCain and why his time as a POW prove nothing about his integrity or qualification for the presidency. His fellow cellmates regarded him as an over-sensitive hot-head whose response to every slight was belligerent and who could not control his temper even when it meant increased deprivation or even torture." Have you ever been a POW? Put a "sock" in it you and the other anti american. "

quiveringthigh wrote on Sep 24, 2008 7:41 PM:

" We like to call Hollywood, Hollyweird. It fits the place! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 24, 2008 5:20 PM:

" A very nice B-Day -- everyone in my department got together and surprised me by taking me out to lunch at Viva Taqueria. I'm so stuffed I won't need another meal until tomorrow!

The media has focused on Palin's supposedly stylish glasses and how attractive her legs are above high heels, and how well people have responded to her vivacity in front of the camera -- how is that nothing but negative reporting?!?? It's relatively irrelevant reporting, but has been positive enough to swing a lot of mindless poll respondents into saying they'll vote for her ticket.

We could use more serious expose reporting into her shady dealings -- without even poking very hard, there are plenty come to light already, and that's without her home life.

I've written here before -- repeatedly -- about McCain and why his time as a POW prove nothing about his integrity or qualification for the presidency. His fellow cellmates regarded him as an over-sensitive hot-head whose response to every slight was belligerent and who could not control his temper even when it meant increased deprivation or even torture.

We also know he has no sense of appropriateness, diplomacy or decorum with the jokes he tells in public, including many which degrade women (which he seems to find funny, and which, somehow, the American public is able to forget just because he chose a female running mate. As if....) as well as insulting the children of other politicians -- imagine what kind of international incident he could cause if he made the same joke about some head of state's daughter that he did about Chelsea Clinton, her mother and Janet Reno.

He's an ancient walking diplomatic disaster with a dangerous temper who should never be allowed to be anywhere near the Red Button, and every day brings new ties to corporate interests to light. I see today they are reporting that one of his aides gets a salary from one of these troubled financial institutions -- I just caught the headline, but in the typical way of those AP feeds into The Citizen, when I went back to find it, I can't -- so I can't confirm the details at this time. But it's just another bit of evidence of who owns McCain-- the wealthy and corporate elite. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 24, 2008 2:05 PM:

" coach51. I struggle mightily to guess where, and from which Faux News talking head you have received your completely-fallacious appraisal of the TRUE state-of-affairs concerning McCain/Palin. You seem to be existing in some alternate reality.
To state that: "All we have seen is slander and cruel comments about John MCcain and Sarah Palin" just shows how completely uninformed and ignorant of the truth you are.
McCain and Palin are FINALLY receiving the well-deserved scrutiny which they have long deserved--and the commentary leveled against them is nothing more than an accurate appraisal of the complete LACK of "integrity" with which McCain has run his campaign. He has flip-flopped on IMPORTANT issues so often even I've almost lost track on where he stands. Oh no-wait--all I have to do is ask myself where Obama stands, ad you can be sure that McCain is now adopting Obama's view and stance--because John McCain is desperate to try to morph like a chameleon into whatever the American public wants him to be--precisely because he LACKS the "integrity" of standing behind a principle. He changes his stance and viewpoints based on how badly his polls slip after he blunders another point.
Palin's kid IS relevant, because it shows her inadequacy as a parent, and if you can't manage your own family, how could you possibly manage the country?! Not only that, but even the media is now calling out the fact that she's being "hidden" from reporters because the Right doesn't want her exposing how truly unqualified she is by answering questions.
Add to that her utter refusal to cooperate in the "Troopergate" scandal, and we have yet another already-corrupt, completely-the-same type of Republican flunky who can NOT BE TRUSTED with power in the highest offices of the nation!
I realize that your opinion is indelibly formed and prejudiced by your status as a veteran and your fidelity to the Corps, but here's something you should know--just because John McCain was a POW, and just because he fought n the war does NOT--I repeat NOT-=automatically confer upon him a mantle of "Integrity".
In fact, his campaign and his public statement/switcheroo's show him to be a man completely devoid of principles and integrity, if you ask me.
Obama is the only choice for patriotic, concerned Americans who truly care about the future of our country. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 24, 2008 2:03 PM:

" "coach51 wrote on Sep 24, 2008 1:16 PM:
" The liberal left media and HOllywood have once again shown their true colors. What ever happened to a newsman giving the news and letting you decide how you feel about it" There are still stations that give you that option, FOX News. On the political issues they have someone from each party. Some people don't like it because 2 opinions on 1 issue confuse them. As for the people that think there's racial undercurrents when discussing Obamas religion, it's not the pastor as much as it is Obama listening to this crap for 20 years, yes TWENTY YEARS. Then Obama says he didn't realize what he was saying. People want this man as President? TWENTY years and not knowing what's going on, after 4 years he won't have a clue either. Believe me, it's NOT racism, it's common sense. "

coach51 wrote on Sep 24, 2008 1:16 PM:

" The liberal left media and HOllywood have once again shown their true colors. What ever happened to a newsman giving the news and letting you decide how you feel about it. All we have seen is slander and cruel comments about John MCcain and Sarah Palin. Vote for them or not they do not deserve to have jerks like Keith Oberman and Rachel Madden speak about them like they do. So as usually the liberals are slamming instead of speaking about the issues. At least John MCcain is not afraid to make a decision. As a veteran I am appauled to think that there is a chance that Obama will be the commander in chief, I am in the reserves and have been a soldier for my country for nearly 25 years, I will get out immediately if Obama is elected. Its funny the liberals talk about freedom of speech and expression and fools like Rosey O'donnell speak about what makes a family. To go after Sarah Palins daughter is totally out of line and once again proves the double standard that liberals and a vast part of the Democratic party stands for today. It is a shame that some will feed in to this and possibly cast their vote based on the bias shameless liberal media's free campainging for Obama. Go John MCcain a man of integrity. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 24, 2008 1:11 PM:

" Andy, I believe that there is absolutely an undercurrent of Racism in many peoples' unwillingness to vote for Obama. The problem is, that the whole topic has become such a sensitive issue that the Right wants to pooh-pooh it like as if it's just rampant "paranoia". But the truth is, there are people out there who will NEVER vote for a HALF-black man (His mom is White, I remind you) for president.
There are people here on this site who offer the silliest, thinnest rationalizations for not-voting for Obama when it's as clear as day that they're just trying to justify (either to us or themselves) that they would not vote for a black man. All that hoo-hah about his old, disavowed minister and Church; RUBBISH!
Sad, but true. "

13579 wrote on Sep 24, 2008 12:54 PM:

" I agree, I'd rather be dead too b4 i'd vote for McCain/Palin. Neither has any foreign policy. Talking to foreign leaders does not do it. "

Andy b wrote on Sep 24, 2008 11:37 AM:

" "I would rather be dead before I'd vote for McCain and Palin. I'm not a bigot, I support Obama."

To say that not voting for Obama is racist is a ridiculous and definetely racist statement. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 24, 2008 11:04 AM:

" HAPPY BIRTHDAY FG "

AJ wrote on Sep 24, 2008 10:00 AM:

" Indeed, well said FG!!

Hope you have a super duper b'day! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:55 AM:

" Interesting tidbit: The Humane Society has endorsed a presidential candidate for the first time ever. They have endorsed Congressional candidates, but never have they made endorsements in a presidential election.

They base their endorsement soley on the candidate's stand on animal protection policies.

They have endorsed Barack Obama, who has backed at least a dozen animal protection laws in Illinois, and has co-sponsored several as a U.S. Senator. He answered their questionaire, pledged support for pending legislation and has taken time during his presidential campaign to publically support animal protection. He has also spoken out publically against the treatment of downed cows and against puppy mills.

Likewise his running mate, Joe Biden, has a long history of supporting animal protection.

John McCain has supported a few animal protection laws, including one against horse slaughter and one against subsidies to the luxury fur industry (I want to know who PROPOSED that one!!!) But he has failed to sponsor or sign many others, was completely silent on downed cows and the beef recall and did not fill out or return the Humane Society questionaire. He was also the keynote speaker at the U.S. Sportsman's Alliance rally earlier this year -- a group which defends trophy hunting of polar bears and "caged hunts" -- the shooting of tame animals in cages or fenced pens for "sport" and trophies.

But the final straw for them was Sarah Palin, whose animal record is the worst of any governor in the United States, maybe ever. I'll quote this directly from their letter:

Palin engineered a campaign of shooting predators from airplanes and helicopters, in order to artificially boost the populations of moose and caribou for trophy hunters. She offered a $150 bounty for the left foreleg of each dead wolf as an economic incentive for pilots and aerial gunners to kill more of the animals, even though Alaska voters had twice approved a ban on the practice. This year, the issue was up again for a vote of the people, and Palin led the fight against it -- in fact, she helped to spend $400,000 of public funds to defeat the initiative.

What's more, when the Bush Administration announced its decision to list the polar bear as threatened under the Endangered Species Act, Palin filed a lawsuit to reverse that decision. She said it's the "wrong move" to protect polar bears, even though their habitat is shrinking and ice floes are vanishing due to global warming.

How's that for a different take on the election? If animal protection is at all important to you, you're going to have a serious moral quandry if you were planning to vote for a ticket which includes Sarah Palin. "

nature lover wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:52 AM:

" For parking ease ask yourself every nite at 6pm what is the date? If the date is odd or even you park on the house #'s corresponding side at and after 6pm. On months with 31 days u luck out with the same parking space. "

nature lover wrote on Sep 24, 2008 9:48 AM:

" Henry Paulson recd #132 mil payout (golden parachute) when he resigned from Goldman Sachs as CEO...conflict of interest going on?

HB FG! "

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