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cm wrote on Sep 17, 2008 12:15 PM:
mostly SHELL stations are 'out-of-gas'
not too long ago this was also a ploy-admitted by workers at the stations, officials said NO gas when employees stated those were lies had--they were holding out for when they could RAISE their profit.
another fact is we IMPORT most of our oil..so how is this effecting a
so-called shortage and higher prices?
also the media is saying dont rush to stations to fill up or that will make the problem worse?
If people wont listen to get out of the way for a huge hurricane, do you think they will NOT fill up?? "
cm wrote on Sep 17, 2008 12:07 PM:
YET we have billions (from??) to aid corporations (choosen ones)--
though I KNOW how the 536 run our government, I DONT understand how the 536 run our government!!! "
The taxpayer watchblog wrote on Sep 17, 2008 10:27 AM:
I am incensed and people should be going to jail! There I feel better because I want to blame someone for something. Isn’t that the common reaction? Or how about this one: Someone must be getting rich off this.
You can’t pick up a paper today, flick through your TV channels or browse the internet without seeing some institution being bailed out by the federal government. Yes I know the ramifications would be huge for our economy and society if they didn’t, but perhaps there’s a larger picture here.
These institutions are being bailed out mainly due to poor management decisions and policies that led to their demise. If the government is going to be expected to save these companies collective hides, then where is the oversight in the first place to prevent them from getting into this mess? Oh, that’s not going to work because the last thing we need are more government regulators.
When real estate was booming and we were all fat, drunk, and stupid no one really cared because we were all reaping the rewards to some degree. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. What of those storied financial institutions that helped make this country great? They got greedy, jumped on a bandwagon they should have been steering instead of “going along for the ride” and now they and you are getting burned for it.
Someone must be to blame, but in the short-term we need to prevent an even “Greater Depression” than the one our grandparents lived through. In the end, something needs to be done to prevent this from ever happening again.(How many times have you heard that one?) Just like the dotcom bubble and Enrons that followed, we all ride the swell of the tidal wave, keep quiet as long as it’s good for us and then point fingers when it all comes crashing down in our backyards. What’s the next great “pie in the sky” market ploy that will temporarily rescue us from this fiasco?
If I hear one more economist claim this is the natural way our market system corrects itself, I am going to be out-straight! If anyone knew the true extent of the brink of financial disaster our country is on right now, we would be rallying in the streets for a new system pronto! From a layman’s view the system seems broken to me, how about you? What can be done to fix it? Or should we just go with a new system?
Now for a glimpse at the larger picture: Consider the trillions of dollars of our national debt which according to this morning’s national debt clock stands at $9,636,825,314,428.35. The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.77 billion per day since September 28, 2007! Where did the government get these billions of dollars to bail these idiots out? I guess we’ll just add it to the tab of our great-great-great grandchildren…if our society survives that long. "
longboard315 wrote on Sep 17, 2008 9:57 AM:
Either youre being sarcastic or you really are stupid 2-cents..... "
chris van note wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:37 AM:
While your candidate was taking money from those two entities, McCain was proposing solutions to reform them.
FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005
http://www.alta.org/govt/issues/05/S-190_0126.pdf
The United States Senate
May 25, 2006
Statement by John McCain
Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae's regulator reported that the company's quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were "illusions deliberately and systematically created" by the company's senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae's former chief executive officer, OFHEO's report shows that over half of Mr. Raines' compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator's examination of the company's accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 1 90, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
Sponsor:
Sen. Charles Hagel [R-NE]
Cosponsors [as of 2007-01-08]
Sen. Elizabeth Dole [R-NC]
Sen. John McCain [R-AZ]
Sen. John Sununu [R-NH]
Change we can believe in? Complete nonsense. Obama is clueless and has absolutely no substance. He talks a good game but thats about it. "
movedsouth wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:32 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 17, 2008 7:42 AM:
cm wrote on Sep 17, 2008 7:00 AM:
'tis my b-day coming up! lol...
hmmm: the gas prices are due to the 'speculation' of Hurricane Ike, or so thats the reason for this week!
Actually NO refineries were damaged in Texas. However the media says it will take a week to get workers back to the platforms, which I dont for a second believe, my guess would be 48hrs tops after the storm passed!
I could ask why in FL are we having major shortages? There was no hurricane here, we have our own ports, YET the price gouging at some places were over 1.00 a gallon higher, and many stations have bagged pumps! "
karl again... wrote on Sep 17, 2008 1:53 AM:
Zheesh! Talk about Republican-orchestrated COVER UP!!!!!
What are they afraid of? It was a bipartisan committee which set up the investigation, so the charges of a bias are ridiculous!
Not only that, but Palin's popularity has just fallen a net 10 points in the last poll--not that polls really mean anything, but it says that Americans are starting to see through this fraud. "
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:27 PM:
I thought they were not bailing out anymore companies? "
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:17 PM:
everyone has their cheerleaders and their foes. I dont read much into the he said she said..I dont listen to much of the media either for they state/or cut off a recording and simply pick what is newsworthy to them today!
During election time the media ranks up there with the Enquirer, along with the "I approve this message"
I admit I have never been on the Obama band-wagon, to me he's a coward who denounces whatever the media/the party says he should. A coward should not be President. I dont feel he is any more qualified than her, but she atleast can wear the pants..
I will still wait and watch the debates. "
karl again... wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:07 PM:
No less than three MAJOR Conservatives have recently come out against Palin as a VP pick--Charles Krauthammer ( a bonafide Neocon nonetheless), George Will (respected columnist for Newsweek) and well known Conservative writer David Brooks--all have called her an unqualified pick.
And they're not saying this in a "we don't want a WOMAN running the country!!" way; they're saying this in a genuine voicing of serious reservation and concern about her NOT being qualified, period. She hasn't followed world affairs, she has no credibility on the World stage, and her leadership style has been compared to Bush's, where she makes up for her lack of experience and knowledge by being overly blustery and impulsive.
What does it say about your (McCain's) judgment when the ideological representatives of your own Party call her unqualified?
cm, I realize you're been having a difficult time as of late, and maybe you're not following the issues as closely as I do, but if you;re NOT concerned about the genuinely worrisome possibility of this neophyte running our country--ESPECIALLY in such a vital, crucial period--then you can only be completely naive. "
horseradish wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:01 PM:
its just common courtasy. what is so difficult? do you need someone to wheel your *** from the other side of the street to your front door? come on people! "
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 16, 2008 6:27 PM:
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 6:02 PM:
getting worried about Rev Wright's prodigy (obama) numbers going down? "
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 5:56 PM:
Walt himself watched people and their actions. They were given a smaple of candy as they walked onto Main St. at XXX amount of steps he noticed they were looking for a trashcan, so he placed one there. he did this all over the park.
Granted, Auburn doesnt have 'time to watch' but a few more trashcans downtown would be helpful. "
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 5:52 PM:
the thing is people hate to hear the truth, especially when they have no knowledge as to how the system works! "
AJ wrote on Sep 16, 2008 4:50 PM:
Here is some perspective from an economist whom I generally respect very highly.
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/03/paul-krugman-pa.html "
karl again... wrote on Sep 16, 2008 2:41 PM:
Are you HONESTLY going to try to offer a rebuttal by posting a link for an EDITORIAL from a site which is a CONSERVATIVE WALL STREET site?!?! One which also has editorials vehemntly against Obama, and ones which suport the looney Palin?!?!
You're not following the bouncing ball here, are you?
Let me explain this carefully.
The economy is in a shambles.
It is because the Republiscums had deregulated the market and made it easy for crooks to abuse it.
The same thing happened under Reagan with the Savings and Loans failures.
Posting quotes by/about Democrats means n-o-t-h-i-n-g, because it was Repub administrations which have always precipitated these kind of failures.
Blaming Clinton for this scandal is, well, entirely predictable for the kind of ridiculous sites that you farm your "responses" from.
And Chris--you're REALLY just "spinning"--and you know it...C'MON!
Get back to me when you wanna have a serious debate.
Hell of an economy, eh? LOL! "
chris van note wrote on Sep 16, 2008 2:32 PM:
Here is her rebuttal to the ethics probe:
http://hotair.cachefly.net/images/2008-09/palin-response.pdf
You apparently missed this part: Palin lodged the ethics complaint against herself on Sept. 2nd to get this issue cleared up.
Monegan was fired for insubordination on budget matters including the following:
* 12/9/07: Monegan holds a press conference with Hollis French to push his own budget plan.
* 1/29/08: Palin’s staffers have to rework their procedures to keep Monegan from bypassing normal channels for budget requests.
* February 2008: Monegan publicly releases a letter he wrote to Palin supporting a project she vetoed.
* June 26, 2008: Monegan bypassed the governor’s office entirely and contacted Alaska’s Congressional delegation to gain funding for a project.
Also, a big point that Karl left out:
Monegan served as a political appointee, at the pleasure of the Governor. "
karl again... wrote on Sep 16, 2008 1:40 PM:
Palin now states that she will NOT cooperate will investigators in the Alaskan Ethics scandal.
If you have nothing to hide, wouldn't you think you would pony up?!
SO MUCH FOR "STRAIGHT TALK"!!!
Also, it was reported yesterday that Palin used PRIVATE emails in governmental communications when she was in office as governor so as to stymie any attempts by future investigators to look in on what is, BY LAW, a PUBLIC RECORD of her dealings in government!
This is O-U-T-R-A-G-E-O-U-S!!!!!
If this doesn't PROVE that the Republican party is just a criminal crime syndicate with the collective mentality of a bunch of thieves and mobsters, I don't know what will! "
chris van note wrote on Sep 16, 2008 1:37 PM:
" Chris, I'll bet you can't even walk in a straight line with all the "spinning" you've been doing here these last few days!
I'm loving it, watching you trying to defend an utterly failed economic policy and the candidates who support them!
It's ok, Chris; if you admit you were wrong, I promise I won't gloat about it one second longer... "
O RLY Karl? How does the crow taste?
September 11, 2003
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
Also from the article:
Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
And an OPED piece from the Investors Business Daily:
But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street's most revered institutions.
Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.
Also from the same article:
Obama and Democrats on the Hill think even more regulation and more interference in the market will solve the problem their policies helped cause. For now, unarmed by the historic record, conventional wisdom is buying into their blame-business-first rhetoric and bigger-government solutions.
While government arguably has a role in helping low-income folks buy a home, Clinton went overboard by strong-arming lenders with tougher and tougher regulations, which only led to lenders taking on hundreds of billions in subprime bilge.
Market failure? Hardly. Once again, this crisis has government's fingerprints all over it.
http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306370789279709 "
karl again... wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:39 PM:
karl again... wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:37 PM:
I'm loving it, watching you trying to defend an utterly failed economic policy and the candidates who support them!
It's ok, Chris; if you admit you were wrong, I promise I won't gloat about it one second longer... "
karl again... wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:35 PM:
Here you are, defending a slob and a litterbug who has no respect for this beautiful little town we have here, and you're lecturing ME on manners and such?
Old Man, your contempt for me blinds you to your own utter lack of integrity.
I'm laughing at you. "
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:02 PM:
As for food, the farmers have been harvesting at the higher prices for fuel to run their tractors and equipment all summer -- the price it cost to produce that food isn't going to change once the production is done. And remember, they are facing the same thing you do at the pump -- the price per barrel may have come down, but the price they pay to fuel their equipment has not. (Plus most farmers have a big tank or two (one for diesel and one for regular gas) full of fuel paid for at the higher price a few weeks or months ago -- the price for new "at the pump" may come down while they are still using up the stuff they have stored in their tanks).
Just some "food for thought." "
morals wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:57 AM:
You cant blame the government for everything.Look at stock holders,owners and down the line. "
hmmmm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:47 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:39 AM:
Someone who smokes and tosses butts any old where should have to go an collect the butts in some place where dozens of people have tossed "just one butt." They add up and are even more dirty and disgusting then when they are hanging out of someone's lips. Think of small children and pets coming across this nasty little things in their play areas, and again, think how they add up. How many cigarettes are smoked by people in Auburn, including those passing through and tossing them out their windows -- every day, every week, every month, every year. If even 1 of of 5 smokers tosses only 1 out of 5 butts any-old-where, that's still an awful accumulation of dirty nasty butts.
Cities don't have more trash cans because they get vandalized, stolen, thrown in the road, filled with horrible things, etc. As I've said before, city life is not for me, filled as it is with enough people who do those kinds of things that make it impractical to put out receptacles for litter, which leads to more litter on the ground as well. I'll just never be a city girl. "
movedsouth wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:50 AM:
chris van note wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:39 AM:
1) Dodd,Christopher (D) Total: $165,400
2) Obama,Barack (D) Total: $126,349
3) Kerry,John (D) Total: $111,000
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html
Yesterday, Obama declared how we are in "the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression."
But today he will host a dinner in Beverly Hills --- costing attendees $28,500 dollars each!
http://news.yahoo.com/s//afp/20080915/ts_alt_afp/usvoteobamafundraisinghollywood_080915223722 "
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:27 AM:
in my paper yesterday:
Now that the political conventions are over and the presidential campaign is in full swing, it's time for my quadrennial civics lesson. After listening to the two candidates' acceptance speeches, they might need a refresher course themselves.
As voters hang on every word Barack Obama and John McCain say between now and Nov. 4, they must keep in mind that it takes more than a president to get things done.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/
sep/14/bz-change-is-also-needed-in-congress/ "
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:19 AM:
cm wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:15 AM:
however, I do agree with you about littering in general..and I do agree smokers should NOT throw butts out their windows, or just on the ground!
And it would be nice if cities would have more disposal places for those who are more considerate.
How many trash cans do you see thru a downtown walk? "
chris van note wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:00 AM:
Mock, change the subject and don't offer anything other than "Blame Bush".
The stock market crashed in 1987. More than 22% of the value gone. The DOW dropped 508 points.
End of the world, no. Did we recover? Yes.
The Dot-com bubble crash in 2001 wiped out $5 trillion in market value of technology companies.
End of the world, no. Did we recover? Yes.
We've also had "panics" in the years 1819, 1869, 1884, 1893, 1896, 1901, 1907, the big one in October 1929,
1973-1974 crash, etc...
End of the world, no. Did we recover?
Yes.
What this says that our system is fundamentally sound and has the ability to rebound. This is a proven, historical FACT.
McCain: I know we have a problem and here’s a solution.
Obama: I know we have a problem and it’s Bush’s fault. "
movedsouth wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:25 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:21 AM:
"Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a Pict" -- that's all I remember from UmmaGumma -- no wait, there was "Careful with that Axe, Eugene" too -- never cared for it much, though I might still have the "wax" among my things in storage somewhere if I didn't sell it on eBay along with Donna Summer....
OK, time for me to put on my "matron" cap -- Karl, you are right about the littering; as nature says, those butts add up and make a mess of people's yards as well as many public spaces (and I've always wondered how such things might change the Ph balance of local micro-environments if you have people tossing lots of tobacco bits in a small area).
BUT -- knocking LuvRetirement for being "old" was out of line. We'll all be old someday, if we are fortunate enough to live through the middle years, and age has its good and bad points.
It comes off as such a "guy thing," the two of you posturing and making threats of punching in the nose and such.
So, I've seen you 'fess up and apologize for bad behavior before -- hope you'll see fit again here. Like I said, no need to apologize for being disgusted about the littering, but the "old man" crack was out of line.
(Not that we haven't heard a lot worse out of all kinds of people here -- but some aren't worth bothering to call upon to self-correct -- hopeless cases). "
dd wrote on Sep 16, 2008 7:10 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 16, 2008 5:21 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 16, 2008 5:19 AM:
I don't litter either, and it p*sses me off too, but growing crops, esp. human food crops (but also crops eaten by animals who are later food for humans) is a serious issue. Our government regulatory system says this is "safe" -- but when they bother to check the waste at all, they only check for something like 6 or 8 kinds of potential contaminants -- while there are hundreds known to exist in what goes down our drains. They check mostly for heavy metals and things like that -- they do not check for disease, pharmaceuticals, cleaning products, etc etc.
And that's LOCALLY GROWN crops, so going to the farmer's market isn't going to help you avoid eating such things. "
brew wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:37 AM:
When I managed a Sunoco station I covered the 3rd shift for one of my employees and was in the parking lot sweeping when some idiot flipped his cig butt on the ground and he gave me a big arguement about how one little butt made no difference to the world. I threatened him with the broom to pick it up or I would smack him. He didn't pick it up but I threw it in his car and told him to leave. I'd do the same to you old man.
And last old double dumb, do you really think that sending homeland security funds to Nebraska and Kansas and giving very little protection to our harbors and borders has helped protect us? Do you think spending most of our defense funds to Iraq instead of to our homeland police forces has helped protect us? Do you think that maybe the tearizt (bushies misspelling not mine) organizations are not that well organized and most of the policing of terrorism has been coming from other nations and not us? Do you think? "
quiveringthigh wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:28 AM:
AJ wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:15 AM:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The economy is great, and this is just
a bad patch. hahahahahahaha. "
karl again... wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:01 AM:
That's the only reason I could understand why you would be defending a littering slob.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, huh?
Or should I say "butt"? "
LuvRetirement wrote on Sep 15, 2008 11:26 PM:
Go back home and ask your mom to teach you some manners, sonny....
I've dealt with your type for too many years... while you're growing and drying yourself off behind the ears, you might try learning a little respect, too... "
karl again... wrote on Sep 15, 2008 11:12 PM:
Thanks, Conservatives, for wrecking the economy with your deregulation and greed!
THANKS FOR NOTHING! "
karl again... wrote on Sep 15, 2008 10:58 PM:
karl again... wrote on Sep 15, 2008 10:57 PM:
What gives me the right to lay into that littering slob was this:
1. I'm a citizen of this city. I live in it, drive around it, work in it, and have to look at the putrid garbage that SLOBS like she and (probably YOU) think its perfectly fine to eliminate from YOUR car and world, and to place it into MINE--where I can assure you it is NOT APPRECIATED!
2. I am a citizen of the Earth, and do not tolerate pigs who have no respect for my body and MY environment, when I have to drink contaminated water, or eat fruit grown where runoff leaches into the soil and poisons my food!
3. Let's get something straight, old man--if I see you lobbing YOUR garbage outside of the car or door or simply dropping on the ground, I WILL LAY INTO YOU IN A SIMILAR MANNER--and then I'll show you that I can stand behind my convictions as well as stand up to threatening, bullying slobs--trust me; I can still do that as well. Old man. "
karl again... wrote on Sep 15, 2008 10:47 PM:
You and John McCain are the only ones who think so...
It must be killing you to know I was right!
LMFAO!!!!
(How typical that you ameliorate your damaged ego by cutting-and-pasting some blah-blah; hey, say it enough and it becomes true, right, Chris?!) "
quiveringthigh wrote on Sep 15, 2008 10:46 PM:
forrest wrote on Sep 15, 2008 10:26 PM:
nature lover wrote on Sep 15, 2008 7:44 PM:
Perhaps non filter camels once completely burnt away are "biodegradeable" but I doubt it! However the filtered cigs are not. They are the rudest and MOST disgusting form of common littering. My lawn is always littered with them and raking then sweeping is the only way to keep things neat. Cig smokers are the most irritating form of litterer as they dont have a clue how absolutely GROSS their habit is. Sorry truth.
The needle story sounds like an unsecured load destined for N Division St dump via North then York. Sounds like diabetic - they are used only once - the user will replace the orange cap and disgard. Many dont have 'sharps' disposers so they will just put in trash. My mother would put in a milk carton then secure the top. "
dd wrote on Sep 15, 2008 7:16 PM:
LuvRetirement wrote on Sep 15, 2008 5:58 PM:
" I confronted a "regular Jane" outside the Post Office today--here's a late 40'2-ish mom, throwing a lit cigarette butt out of her window before she got out to come in the lobby I was just going in, and witnessed it and laid into her!"
What gives you the right to "lay into someone" like that? I'm quite a bit older than you, and have just recently quit smoking.... but... I smoked non-filtered Camels for 40 some-odd years and happen to know that their remains are biodegradable... no harm to your precious environment...
And, with an apology to the Hollywood Argyles, if you had attempted to "lay into me" like you did to that lady, I would have proceded to knuckle your head before you could count to four....
Trust me.... I can still do that.... "
chris van note wrote on Sep 15, 2008 4:44 PM:
This whole mess was caused by greedy, unscrupulous lenders giving money to people who couldn't afford it (party affiliation doesn't matter). Common sense says you don't give a 250K variable rate loan to someone making 30K a year, but it was done and now all of us are paying the price.
We'll get through this...our economy isn't falling apart. It will take a while, but we'll get back on track.
The country has been thru worse banking troubles and survived intact.
I would suggest reading FDR's first fireside chat.
"We have had a bad banking situation. Some of our bankers had shown themselves either incompetent or dishonest in their handling of the people’s funds. They had used the money entrusted to them in speculations and unwise loans. This was, of course, not true in the vast majority of our banks, but it was true in enough of them to shock the people of the United States, for a time, into a sense of insecurity and to put them into a frame of mind where they did not differentiate, but seemed to assume that the acts of a comparative few had tainted them all. And so it became the Government’s job to straighten out this situation and do it as quickly as possible. And that job is being performed."
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/fdrfirstfiresidechat.html "
karl again... wrote on Sep 15, 2008 3:30 PM:
As Conservatives have shown us, it's not the nature of the evidence, it's the blatantly dismissive and hallucinatory nature of how you spin the facts! "
karl again... wrote on Sep 15, 2008 3:01 PM:
"Hey, you don't have an ashtray in that vehicle?! Don't you know that's littering?!"
She: (sheepishly with half-smile) "It IS?"
Me: "YSE! Cripes, c'mon, you're old enough to know! Do you know how that leaches into the groundwater? Jeezus, don't you have any respect???!"
She had no comeback, so I left her with a "I'm so sick of seeing you smokers and this crap of throwing your butts anywhere you damn well please! How 'bout doing your part?"
Unbelievable. I hope she thinks about it the next time she lights up a deathrod, but I sincerely doubt--probably she'll just look around to see if there's anyone watching! "
karl again... wrote on Sep 15, 2008 2:56 PM:
chris van note wrote on Sep 15, 2008 12:45 PM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 15, 2008 12:23 PM:
I can ride a bicycle, but haven't owned one in years, but a group of my friends did the AIDS Ride for Life this weekend -- all the way around the lake and back to Ithaca. This coming weekend, I'll be doing the ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease) walk in Ithaca -- I can walk all day, but am not as good about the fund-raising part. I'll manage, but I'm not good at hitting people up for money I don't know if they can afford or have inclination to give.... "
quiveringthigh wrote on Sep 15, 2008 11:36 AM:
" SO I went for a long bicycle ride today in the glorious hot weather, up South Street past the gas station outside of town there, past the Masonic Lodge, and up to the town of Fleming.
Well, I get outside of town, and just past the Masonic Lodge, I see a hypodermic needle on the shoulder where I'm riding, looking brand new. So I don't want any kids to get their hands on it, so I pick it up and put it in my bag.
50 yards more; another one!
I pick THAT one up.
Another 50 yards--ANOTHER one!
I picked up 7 syringes with orange caps still on them between the Lodge and the top of the hill in Fleming!
I stopped at the Fleming Fire Station where they were just putting away the ambulance AND SAID "Hey, what did you guys do---leave a box of these on the bumper?"
They looked at them and said that they didn't use that type. They took them from me and told me I shouldn't have picked them up. I went and washed my hands. They said they were going to cal the sheriff and report it. I left them my card, in case they or the sheriff had questions.
I couldn't see just leaving them out there? What if some kids or scums got a hold of them?
Weird though! I wonder where they came from?
A diabetic hiker with a hole in their knapsack?
Very strange! "
That is weird. I always thought hypo's stayed in houses to get their fix. I wonder what they were shooting? "
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 15, 2008 8:57 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 15, 2008 8:39 AM:
BTW -- Farmer Guy and his buddies made the paper Sunday! He's usually a below-the-radar kind of operator, but the annual sauerkraut thing is a big deal he never misses. (We eat a lot of pickled veggies of all sorts).
cm -- think how much worse the less wealthy feel about how their taxes are used. For low-income folks, every penny counts more than thousands of dollars do to the rich. A wealthy person can drop $1,000 on a whim and be no big deal, where a poor person can be faced with a car repair that costs $50 and have it be a hardship as well as a necessity. To take money away from THAT person and use it on waste is absolutely criminal. "
cm wrote on Sep 15, 2008 6:51 AM:
however I am not sure about super-taxing the rich...I can agree with FAIR taxing, but if I was born poor and worked my butt off and became rich, I would be angry that the country wants me to pay more than huge taxes to support wasteful spending, Gov.give-a-ways to other countries that hate us, and SS for illegals!
no different than our daily feelings on the taxing subjects.. "
cm wrote on Sep 15, 2008 6:16 AM:
right now obama/biden's protestors arent newsworthy because they aren't the 'hot topic' "
cm wrote on Sep 15, 2008 6:11 AM:
karl again... wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:38 PM:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/ "
karl again... wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:32 PM:
Well, I get outside of town, and just past the Masonic Lodge, I see a hypodermic needle on the shoulder where I'm riding, looking brand new. So I don't want any kids to get their hands on it, so I pick it up and put it in my bag.
50 yards more; another one!
I pick THAT one up.
Another 50 yards--ANOTHER one!
I picked up 7 syringes with orange caps still on them between the Lodge and the top of the hill in Fleming!
I stopped at the Fleming Fire Station where they were just putting away the ambulance AND SAID "Hey, what did you guys do---leave a box of these on the bumper?"
They looked at them and said that they didn't use that type. They took them from me and told me I shouldn't have picked them up. I went and washed my hands. They said they were going to cal the sheriff and report it. I left them my card, in case they or the sheriff had questions.
I couldn't see just leaving them out there? What if some kids or scums got a hold of them?
Weird though! I wonder where they came from?
A diabetic hiker with a hole in their knapsack?
Very strange! "
AJ wrote on Sep 14, 2008 6:45 PM:
AJ wrote on Sep 14, 2008 6:41 PM:
" AJ, great additions. And good point too, Karl. Just goes to show how much of a grip the corporations have on government. Now, if we could only get a candidate that had a set, instead of people that insist on throwing out one-liners, we might have a chance. "
Thanks unknown. Actually, there IS a candidate with a set - Cynthia McKinney. But whatever little attention the corporate media pays to her is not generally very good. There is a video of her really grilling Rumsfeld when others were lobbing softball questions or praising the guy. She really gave it to him. She has the utmost integrity and a platform which makes sense.
The trouble is even the progressives won't get behind her simply because of the way the system is setup. We need some serious change if 3rd party candidates are going to have a chance - I gave up on the Democrats. "
Unknown... wrote on Sep 14, 2008 5:39 PM:
mark wrote on Sep 14, 2008 5:09 PM:
karl again... wrote on Sep 14, 2008 3:32 PM:
It should be pointed out that not only is MOST of John McCain's campaign team composed of well-known lobbyists but it was also announced that his transitional team--which is responsible for recommending and picking his cabinet members, is ALSO chock-full of lobbyists! "
quiveringthigh wrote on Sep 14, 2008 12:43 PM:
You are SO Right! "
AJ wrote on Sep 14, 2008 11:57 AM:
" 1. Get out of NAFTA
2. Abolish "free trade" (free trade = corporate greed = idle Amereican workers)
3. Raise import tariffs to extremly unattractive rates to make American manufacturing in China unprofitable
4. Close our borders
5. Do not allow illegals access to SS benefits, and stop the abuse by people that don't need it.
6. Make lobbying of our elected leaders in Washington illegal.
7. Shift the tax burden back to the ones that can afford it the most (everybody has their fair share).
8. Stop the excessive importation of oil & natural gas; we have our own, & say goodbye to OPEC.
9. If elected leaders exhibit preference toward some, and not the good of all, they should be removed from office.
10. STOP ANY FURTHER DRIFT TOWARD THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION. "
You missed a few.
At the top should be break up the media monopolies and restore the Fairness Doctrine (which was repealed under Ronnie Raygun). We would not be in our current situation if people were well informed.
Restore corporate taxes to 1950's or earlier levels.
Revoke the charters of all corporations engaged in illegal activity, and make the officers criminally responsible. They should understand jail time.
Universal Health Care for all.
A new comprehensive ALTERNATIVE energy program, which diverts tax credits from oil into alternative sources until it is competitively priced.
End the "revolving door" between government officials and big business - make it illegal for anyone to engage in these conflicts of interest.
Make profiting from war illegal. Anyone found guilty should be given life in prison without possibility of parole.
Take the control of the debates out of the hands of the democratic and republican parties. The debates should foster more participation by ALL legitimate candidates.
Free and ample air time for candidates. "
AJ wrote on Sep 14, 2008 11:37 AM:
" I just figured out why Obama is getting so much grief for his comment about McCain and Palin's CLAIM that they would bring change to the government (he said that CLAIM was like putting lipstick on a pig, with which I cannot disagree) -- his trouble is that while he has a fine command of the language, the average American doesn't speak English! Because people don't even understand their own language when its spoken correctly, that comment has been completely mistaken."
The so called "journalists" and pundits should know the difference, but many of them seem to keep perpetuating this nonsense. As a relatively educated class, there is no excuse for them except partisan politics. And you're right FG, the American people are pathetic when it comes to understanding the English language. It is on display here day after day.
"Obama doesn't need to attack Palin -- not with the documentable lies springing from her lips almost daily. She'll sink the Republican ticket (like the Titanic!) all by herself. "
Personally, I think he is being too nice, and should fight back. What concerns me is this "boost" that McCain has received since she was picked, though that should dwindle as more and more people wake up to their outright lies. "
movedsouth wrote on Sep 14, 2008 10:53 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 14, 2008 10:50 AM:
The problem, though, with putting tariffs back on cheaply products made poorly in countries where the workers are exploited and the environment destroyed and where there are none of the usual safety standards we Americans expect is that CHINA HAS BANKROLLED THIS STUPID UNWINNABLE WAR -- if we try to cut off the cr*p coming out of China, flooding our markets and putting our workers out of work, the Chinese will call in our debt to them, and we can't pay.
Thanks so much, George Bush I and II, for putting the American worker out of work and flooding our country with inferior, dangerous, cheap plastic cr*p. Lots of profits for corporate giants who move production to those countries, and scr*w the working man and woman in this country. Clinton and the democrats didn't help opening the doors with NAFTA, but the Bushes and their buddies put the sealing nail in the coffin with their pointless, endless war. "
budobrubbie wrote on Sep 14, 2008 10:07 AM:
Unknown... wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:55 AM:
2. Abolish "free trade" (free trade = corporate greed = idle Amereican workers)
3. Raise import tariffs to extremly unattractive rates to make American manufacturing in China unprofitable
4. Close our borders
5. Do not allow illegals access to SS benefits, and stop the abuse by people that don't need it.
6. Make lobbying of our elected leaders in Washington illegal.
7. Shift the tax burden back to the ones that can afford it the most (everybody has their fair share).
8. Stop the excessive importation of oil & natural gas; we have our own, & say goodbye to OPEC.
9. If elected leaders exhibit preference toward some, and not the good of all, they should be removed from office.
10. STOP ANY FURTHER DRIFT TOWARD THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION. "
budobrubbie wrote on Sep 14, 2008 9:38 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 14, 2008 7:24 AM:
I just figured out why Obama is getting so much grief for his comment about McCain and Palin's CLAIM that they would bring change to the government (he said that CLAIM was like putting lipstick on a pig, with which I cannot disagree) -- his trouble is that while he has a fine command of the language, the average American doesn't speak English! Because people don't even understand their own language when its spoken correctly, that comment has been completely mistaken.
Obama doesn't need to attack Palin -- not with the documentable lies springing from her lips almost daily. She'll sink the Republican ticket (like the Titanic!) all by herself. "
RICHARD102167NY wrote on Sep 14, 2008 2:57 AM:
karl again... wrote on Sep 13, 2008 7:30 PM:
The McBush/Palin Platform
1- A walrus in every driveway
2- Free Viagra for scared white males but NO birth control for women!
3- 100 years in Iraq
4- Igloos to ease global warming
5- Bridges to EVERYWHERE
6- Cabinet slots for all Wacko religious hockey moms who think God is an American! "
karl again... wrote on Sep 13, 2008 7:28 PM:
"God" was asleep at the wheel, letting all those innocent people die.
If he wanted to humiliate them for their hubris, why didn't he provide a way to save all the people?
What a stoooooopid comment.
It was fun ridiculing it though; thank you! "
karl again... wrote on Sep 13, 2008 6:54 PM:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ "
theking wrote on Sep 13, 2008 6:52 PM:
AJ wrote on Sep 13, 2008 5:58 PM:
He was one of the true heroes, having saved scores of people. His story is compelling.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=386470406528921790 "
oldtimer wrote on Sep 13, 2008 5:18 PM:
Don't watch ABC Syracuse is ON "
Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 13, 2008 4:48 PM:
Mostly the comments above today are not worth the effort to move fingers across a keyboard in any form of response.
I think I'll go look at football.... "
LuvRetirement wrote on Sep 13, 2008 1:58 PM:
"Senator McCain says he wants to cut the corporate tax rate from 35 to 25 percent. No tax exists except on paper, it's nullified by 1,001 Republican loopholes."
And, when Obama increases corporate taxes, I would expect that all you liberals will rejoice when we lose even more manufacturing firms to overseas locations..... "
LuvRetirement wrote on Sep 13, 2008 1:12 PM:
"At least with Obama we'll have the competence of the Clintons helping to direct this country in the right direction."
You have just GOT to be joking! "
cm wrote on Sep 13, 2008 1:05 PM:
the architect knows NIL..
he may draw up the idea however, he is not onsite to witness:
the errors, cheaper products used, changes needed to be made, miss-communication between contractor and sub-contractors,lazy inspectors, AND plain shady work!
my soon to be ex works as an electrician on many sites in the past 15 yrs, the stories HE could tell you!
Just because it looks and sounds good on paper does not mean the end result is the exact same or done to code!
start watching your condos go up next door, how many sub-contractors are there?
does the inspector check every INCH of all piping, electrical, plumbing,and concrete stability? especially after its covered up?
in 15yrs I have never heard Ex say any building was done to exact code!
ANY construction workers want to tell karl how it really is????? "
karl again... wrote on Sep 13, 2008 12:51 PM:
LOL!!!
Boy, -- somebody's got a real sense of humor!
"...kept your sorry butts safe..."
LMFAO!! (slaps knee, rolls off couch in violent paroxysm!) "
horseradish wrote on Sep 13, 2008 12:51 PM:
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owastocat wrote on Sep 13, 2008 10:45 AM:
the bone wrote on Sep 13, 2008 9:47 AM: