Two Cents

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:21 AM EDT

Auburn sports will never go anywhere when we have coaches that have been around forever just collecting a check. Our girls need women role models to become stronger women and more confident --- ladies it is your time to shine.



Sarah ought to be proud of America, the government gave her money for a bridge to nowhere. And where did the money go, Sarah --- the bridge was canceled?

McCain and Sarah, eight years of Bush was ridiculous. Do you really want four more of the same thing?

Obama is NOT a Muslim, he's a Christian. This is a misconception started by someone.




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cm wrote on Sep 13, 2008 7:03 AM:

" here's a bit of info karl,
the architect knows NIL..
he may draw up the idea however, he is not onsite to witness:
the errors, cheaper products used, changes needed to be made, miss-communication between contractor and sub-contractors,lazy inspectors, AND plain shady work!

my soon to be ex works as an electrician on many sites in the past 15 yrs, the stories HE could tell you!
Just because it looks and sounds good on paper does not mean the end result is the exact same or done to code!

start watching your condos go up next door, how many sub-contractors are there?
does the inspector check every INCH of all piping, electrical, plumbing,and concrete stability? especially after its covered up?

in 15yrs I have never heard Ex say any building was done to exact code!

ANY construction workers want to tell karl how it really is????? "

cm wrote on Sep 13, 2008 6:49 AM:

" Karl:
PROVE to me WHERE and WHEN they tested an identical set of the twin towers, flying a 747 full of fuel and passengers into them? "

cm wrote on Sep 13, 2008 6:45 AM:

" ANDY B: you are correct this new question is asked incorrectly.

YES, new trucks AS the OLD ones need to be replaced!
NO, as a one time shopping trip right now! "

brew1234 wrote on Sep 13, 2008 12:35 AM:

" I think to key to getting posted bone dry is to not just take a shot at someones opinion or call them a name but actually have a point of discussion or an actual opinion.
And to Q tip, her opinion is as relevant as yours or maybe more so. Do you think your opinion is superior to hers? "

karl again... wrote on Sep 12, 2008 8:50 PM:

" Well, I'm happy to say that people are FINALLY starting to call out John McCain and Palan on their blatant LIES--Barbara Walters, the Daily KOS, another respected journalists who even went as far as calling them "out and out lies" have all started to confront and correct the blatant lies, sometimes in front of the candidates themselves!
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!
YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO LIBERALS MORE OFTEN!!! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 12, 2008 8:47 PM:

" Guess what, Queenie?
THE TWIN TOWERS WERE DESIGNED TO TAKE A 747 CRASHING INTO THEM!!!!
THEY WERE DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND THAT IMPACT!!!
THAT COMES FROM THE MOUTH OF THE ARCHITECT HIMSELF!!!
THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO BLOW THEM UP WITH EXPLOSIVES!!! "

theking wrote on Sep 12, 2008 8:28 PM:

" karl you should probably stop giving your awful opinions and save yourself the embarrassment. please post a sign in your front yard that says 9/11 was an inside job so everyone who drives by can laugh at the city idiot. you must know one heck of an architect who can design a sky scraper to withstand a jumbo jet ramming into it so fast with so much fuel. "

the bone wrote on Sep 12, 2008 7:05 PM:

" This is the third time I wrote in 2 days and never was posted.I know why, I wrote about a person that is a big loser and The Citizen dont agree with me. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 12, 2008 3:40 PM:

" moved south, your comment makes no sense.
Anyone who believe that the towers fell from "fire/metal fatigue" must be smoking the same turd matter as Rush Limbaugh does every day. "

Andy b wrote on Sep 12, 2008 2:36 PM:

" Sometimes I hate the incomplete questions the citizen asks in their poll questions. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 12, 2008 2:11 PM:

" Anyone who believes our government blew up the towers, must be on what Obama was on in college! Or maybe they were affected by the chem trails the next day. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 12, 2008 1:53 PM:

" Cm, nope, I never think that.
9/11 was a Neocon "hit".
The ancient Romans alway asked of a crime "Who benefited?".
Read the writing on the wall. "

cm wrote on Sep 12, 2008 1:10 PM:

" karl: you are sick!
do you ever think that just possibly OSAMA says "them dumb infidels do not believe 'I' blew up the twin towers and killed over 3000 in the name of Allah,
SO let me do something bigger to be sure THEY GET WHO DID IT!" "

Farmers Gal wrote on Sep 12, 2008 12:54 PM:

" Oh, I didn't say she didn't frame her answer correctly this time -- I'm saying she is lying about not ever having said before that she didn't think it could be human activity.

Humans are god-awfully wasteful and destructive. We're also, as a race, arrogant and unwilling to admit when we make mistakes, and we are in denial about the level of our own destruction.

I don't doubt there are exggerations on both sides of the global warming question, and there is no good way for us to have a proper perspective on cyclical trends in temperatures because we are such a tiny blip in the radar of earth's time, there is no denying that we are destroying our non-renewable resources at a horrifying rate.

If you haven't seen the short movie The Story of Stuff (just 20 minutes of very clear, simple statement of absolute facts on consumption and destruction and waste), chances are you haven't got the perspective needed for this discussion.

Some examples: Manufacturing in this country produces 50 units of waste for every one unit of finished proudct. That means that even if we miraculously were able to recycle 100% of what comes into our homes, we'd still be falling behind at a rate of 50-to-one. And for every 100 units of "stuff" we bring into our homes, only 1 (ONE!) unit is still in the home a year later. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:09 AM:

" Speaking out about the lies of 9/11 is the most patriotic thing a person can possibly do.
Thank God it's Sept 12th already!
DO you think Cheney and Wolfowitz had a toast with Billy Kristol last night? "

karl again... wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:05 AM:

" CVN quips "And Charlie Gibson had a shot of doing a fair and unbiased interview...he blew it."
Uh huh.
Blame the interviewer... "

cm wrote on Sep 12, 2008 10:57 AM:

" I don't agree with Al Gore, he is NOT mother nature, and she has a mind of her own!
yet I do think we could dispose of or recycle better.
We learn new things every year thru technology as it grows.

it would only make sense to adapt, grow, and change ways of pollution as technology grows.
when the 'car' was first made was there such a thing as fuel efficient?
yet now we want EVEN better in 5 yrs than this year rankings!
yet, some still drive their Model T's...

100 yrs ago there was just a storm that killed hundreds of people..
NOW its called hurricane and we know better details about its path and strength.
yet, some still ignore warnings...

there is so much about this planet, that WE in our lifetimes may never know.
it would only make sense that we change our ways of buying, using, discarding, and of course stating/changing our THOUGHTS of how we can be more aware or do better for ourselves and the planet.

also with knowing if mother nature is going thru menopause (hot flashes/global warming), there is minimal we can do to stop-it! "

Farmers Gal wrote on Sep 12, 2008 10:52 AM:

" I like the part in the recent interview where she says whether global warming is due to human activity or just part of the natural cycle, she and McCain just gotta do something about it. I want to see them "do something about" the natural cycles of weather! LOL! "

chris van note wrote on Sep 12, 2008 10:22 AM:

" Oh FG, not everyone has drank from the cup of Al Gore's (tm) Interwebs Globull Warming Kool-Aide.

Palin stated in the interview: “man’s activities certainly CAN BE contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change. ... Regardless, though, of the reason for climate change, whether it’s entirely, wholly caused by man’s activities or is part of the cyclical nature of our planet — the warming and the cooling trends — regardless of that, John McCain and I agree that we gotta do something about it.”

She actually framed her answer correctly. You can't dismiss that man-made greenhouse gases contribute, and you can't qualify it. She gave the correct response.

Check this link, more compassion from the classy left:

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/9/12/034/14783/6#c6 "

AJ wrote on Sep 12, 2008 9:38 AM:

" FG, that's a proper resume for the non-thinking robotic rethuglican clones out there.

Sad, but true. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 12, 2008 9:30 AM:

" No argument on that one, movedsouth. Like most candidates, Obama is afraid to buck the AIPAC. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 12, 2008 9:29 AM:

" Yet another example of documented falsehoods from Palin -- how dumb can she be to say things when there is easily-found proof of her statements' falsehood?

Palin's previous statements:

1. She has told the Internet news site Newsmax, "A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. ... I'm not one, though, who would attribute it to being man-made."

2. In an interview with a Fairbanks newspaper within the last year, Palin said: "I'm not an Al Gore, doom-and-gloom environmentalist blaming the changes in our climate on human activity."

But now she says:

3. In the ABC interview broadcast Thursday and Friday, Palin said she believes that "man's activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change. ... Regardless, though, of the reason for climate change, whether it's entirely, wholly caused by man's activities or is part of the cyclical nature of our planet — the warming and the cooling trends — regardless of that, John McCain and I agree that we gotta do something about it."

4. Palin said she didn't disagree with scientists that the problem can be attributed to "man's activities." In the same ABC interview, she said: "Show me where I have ever said that there's absolute proof that nothing that man has ever conducted or engaged in has had any effect or no effect on climate change. I have not said that."

Whoops! I think we just showed her proof of what she said, completely contrary to what she is now saying. Called your bluff, honey!

It's one thing to change your position, or as it is called here, to "flip-flop" -- it's another to change position then lie and claim you never said otherwise.

The falsehoods keep popping out of her, a new one daily. Her handlers didn't train her very well, now did they? The commentators have spent more time laying out clearly how she has dodged questions than on the substance of her answers -- because most of her answers didn't HAVE any substance. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 12, 2008 9:28 AM:

" Did you guys read this one yet??!!
"The Interior Department's inspector general issued a scathing report on Wednesday that found "a culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" at the department's Minerals Management Service, whose employees handled billions of dollars in oil and natural gas supplies that were turned over by companies as in-kind royalty payments for drilling on federal lands."
And here's the BEST part--THE US "JUSTICE" DEPARTMENT REFUSES TO PROSECUTE THE CASE!!!!
Is there any doubt at how corrupt the "Justice" department has been utterly corrupted under the tutelage of Bush cronies?
Read all about this outrageous scandal:
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1134230020080911 "

cm wrote on Sep 12, 2008 9:05 AM:

" Steve: isnt everyones 2-cents a debate?
forever in time: past, present, and future,
where there is a yay, there is a nay! "

chris van note wrote on Sep 12, 2008 8:55 AM:

" karl again... wrote on Sep 11, 2008 7:41 PM:
" SHEESH!
Did you guys catch the absolutely ROBOTIC recitation that Palin gave Charlie Rose in response to his answer about what we would do if Israel attacked Iran?!
She completely just recited what she was "coached" to say--FOUR TIMES she repeated "we cannot second guess Israel's need to defend itself..."
SHEESH! Now we know why Palin's been out of the reporters' reach--she's been coached and trained like a seal to bark out what they told her.
WHAT A FRAUD. "

Since not all of us are Israel haters Karl, what she said is completely correct. If Israel has to defend itself from Iran due to the fact the the feckless UN and the equally spineless EU can't stop Iran from building a nuclear weapon, than so be it.
How many times has the Iranian government threatened to "wipe Israel off the map"...
Gee Karl, I wonder if Biden will reflect Obama's foreign policy talking points?
And Charlie Gibson had a shot of doing a fair and unbiased interview...he blew it. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 12, 2008 8:40 AM:

" When Obama was asked what would happen if Israel attacked Iran, the response was that we can't deal with what ifs. I guess he was a lot more clear. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 12, 2008 7:58 AM:

" On the subject of the Republican candidate for VP: Not every Vice Presidential candidate can run for office wearing a dark suit -- with bare legs and 4 inch red heels ... while dodging questions about her sidewise attempts to have books she didn't like removed from libraries and bookstores:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080912/ap_on_el_pr/palin_librarian

Let's see, that's documented lying/deception, attempted censorship, tainted with corruption, using a position of power to try to fire people she doesn't like personally, deciding a position on the war according to her religious beliefs ("task from God"), what's next? "

stevedallas wrote on Sep 12, 2008 7:02 AM:

" They should change this forum from two cents, to the debate forum! My mom said this person is better, no wait my mom said its this one! Vote for whoever you want there both worthless! "

cm wrote on Sep 12, 2008 6:32 AM:

" I dont expect anyone to walk into a job and know every detail every second.
Along with having the 'perfect plan' IN CASE OF...

IN CASE OF alone could have 100 different details starting with who,what,where,when,why,how?

I get sick of the media asking 'what if' questions! Lets deal with 'what if' when 'what if' happens.

RIGHT now lets deal with WHATS ACTUALLY happening and needs addressing, more importantly needs some kind of solving or simple relief!

personally I could care less if another Georgia wants to kicks Russias butt or get butt kicked!

Heres were karl will say OIL..sadly we need it..us greedy over-consumption Americans..
SO how about we get a plan to NOT NEED their oil and then let the others destroy themselves, without our aid or money! "

quiveringthigh wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:34 PM:

" You all should've seen the BEAUTIFUL sunset here tonight! Absolutely Amazing! "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:08 PM:

" Well, no wonder she appeals to the wingers - she's has no grasp of anything important wrt national/international politics. Sounds like GWB. Ignorant and ez to manipulate. Just what we need a heartbeat away from being the prez! We live in scary times indeed. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 11, 2008 7:41 PM:

" SHEESH!
Did you guys catch the absolutely ROBOTIC recitation that Palin gave Charlie Rose in response to his answer about what we would do if Israel attacked Iran?!
She completely just recited what she was "coached" to say--FOUR TIMES she repeated "we cannot second guess Israel's need to defend itself..."
SHEESH! Now we know why Palin's been out of the reporters' reach--she's been coached and trained like a seal to bark out what they told her.
WHAT A FRAUD. "

budobrubbie wrote on Sep 11, 2008 7:32 PM:

" Just caught Sara Palin's interview with Charles Gibson on ABC News. She doesn't know what the Bush Doctrine is, and refused to answer any question directly. When asked about Iraq, she talked about her son who has just been deployed there. When asked about her foreign policy experience, she talked about Alaska's oil, and how one can actually see Russia from the Alaskan shores. Wow, pretty deep stuff. When asked if we have the right to pursue Al-Qaeda into Pakistan without the Pakistani government's permission, she was once again non-committal. The entire interview airs tomorrow night, but it's probably just more of the same. Some election. The three other candidates won't discuss the issues and Palin doesn't even know what the issues are. "

cm wrote on Sep 11, 2008 5:04 PM:

" I think we should all stop listening to TV Pres.slam-fest!
Neither side is talking about the issues, or HOW they plan to solve the issues, or should I say HOW to convince the 535 of doing it their way!

Hopefully the debates have something better to offer...
right now both sides are simply wasting money.

on another note: getting some wild rainbands from IKE, I so need to hire a cute roofer! "

cm wrote on Sep 11, 2008 4:53 PM:

" AJ: sometimes I feel like I am in a time warp, today must be one of them and I didnt know it!
lol....

I just returned from bowling--I haven't bowled in about 5 yrs-amazingly my scores were 105 and 98--my 9yr old nearly beat me!
(no fair, shes on a league)
lol......

all in all --it was fun! "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 3:18 PM:

" cm wrote on Sep 11, 2008 1:36 PM:
" how did a comment I posted
Sep 10, 2008 6:55 PM
return today at
Sep 11, 2008 11:54 AM
when I left my home at 8am and just got home @ 1pm today? "

You're living in a time warp, cm! lol... "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 3:07 PM:

" That is why I live in one made out of plexiglass, MS! "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 2:35 PM:

" chris van note wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 AM:
" TOP TEN REASONS LIBERALS HATE PALIN

10. She's the quintessential American, and the one thing liberals hate most about America are Americans."

We don't hate Americans or America, we just hate the current crop of scumbags running it - rethuglicans can't figure out the difference since they created this cesspool.

"9. She's sworn that as soon as she gets to Washington, she's going to cut off the Democrats' b***s and put them on eBay."

And do what, sell them at a massive loss like she did with the jet?

"8. She's an anti-choice extremist who has had five babies and never thought of killing any of them. "

Yes, and she showed excellent judgement hopping on that plane after breaking water, eh?!

"7. They're physically intimidated by her husband."

Oooh, we're really, really, really skeeered!

"6. They're physically intimidated by her."

Ha, that's really funny. Not really, but we are intimidated by the fact that she could be wielding so much power without using it judiciously, you know, like Bush Cheney, et al.

"5. They just know that whenever they're not looking at her, she's pointing and laughing at their tallywackers."

No CVN, I think she was looking at yours.

"4. She's murdered innocent moose and no one seems to care."

She's a real down-home gal ain't she? Gotsta get me one a them thar mooseys if I can only fetch up sum gas fer the pickup!

"3. Hard working, blue-collar people are supposed to be anecdotes; they're not supposed to run for office."

Blue collar? Hmm, where'd they come up with that one?

"2. Liberals are much more conscious of how shrill and annoying they are when they're around someone that knows how to use a gun."

Shrill and annoying only to those who cannot tell the difference between fact and fiction.

And the number one reason liberals hate Palin...

"It just seems unfair that someone can have the charisma of Obama with actual accomplishments to back it up."

HUH? Are you smoking something illegal again?

We're still waiting for a list of REAL accomplishments and not lies. If you still believe they aren't lying about the "Bridge to Nowhere", well, I have one to sell you.

http://www.imao.us/ " - don't waste your time. "

cm wrote on Sep 11, 2008 1:36 PM:

" how did a comment I posted
Sep 10, 2008 6:55 PM
return today at
Sep 11, 2008 11:54 AM
when I left my home at 8am and just got home @ 1pm today? "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:50 PM:

" As long as they keep running the clip of McCain saying "lipstick on a pig" referring to Hillary, I believe it was, they can keep the issue alive.

It's an old saying which means that you can't make up something to be what it's not (or rather, you can make it up, but it doesn't change what it is). In this case, Obama was referring to McCain and Palin's CLAIM that they would bring change to Washington. The claim is a "pig" and "lipsticking" it up with fancy words doesn't change the fact that the claim is a pig. That's what he meant, plain and simple, no lines between which to read. When your opponents say stupid things daily, when they lie, mislead and purposely attempt to deceive on camera in ways that can be shown back-to-back on IMPORTANT issues, well, you don't have any need to make personal attacks -- you need only point out the absurdity of the CLAIMS. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:35 PM:

" Obama-McCain together on FOX NEWS at 8 PM tonight. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:12 PM:

" AJ, remember there's something about glass houses. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:09 PM:

" cm, I'm sure Obama will stop using the "lipstick" remark when the rest of Washington does too.
Actually...now that I think of it; Palin left herself wide open to ANYpossible interpretation of it by invoking here cutesy little "lipstick on a pit bull" remark!
Hey--she ought to think before she speaks--but being that she's being manipulated like a ventriloquist dummy, I guess we can't hold here responsible, right? "

karl again... wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:05 PM:

" LOL, Chris--thank you for posting that "Why Liberals hate Palin" fluff!
Boy, if there was ever a more fitting "snapshot" of how Conservatives (don't) "think", that garbage says it all!
It also adequately sums up the ideological basis behind the completely insubstantial character of McCain/Palin's campaign thus far--remember, John McCain's own campaign manager said "We don't want this campaign to be about 'issues'"!
'nuf said! "

cm wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:54 AM:

" very true karl: email Obama and tell him to stop talking about the 'pig' remark at his townhalls and on Letterman,
he can twist it in any direction he wants, but anyone with common sense knows what he meant/its called reading between the lines! "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:54 AM:

" Wow, MS, you know the difference between "hear" and "here". You are making some progress, albeit very slight. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:41 AM:

" "we tell you hear." "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:37 AM:

" Brew, I think the ill eagles probably get better health care than we do as citizens. "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:35 AM:

" Strange universe you live in CVN, where fiction is fact and fact is fiction. Same goes for you, MS. "

AJ wrote on Sep 11, 2008 11:29 AM:

" CVN, it's no wonder you still can't grasp anything we tell you hear. You're still mispelling "conspiricy" even after it's been pointed out to you numerous times.

Talking to you right-wingers is like talking to brick walls. "

chris van note wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:50 AM:

" TOP TEN REASONS LIBERALS HATE PALIN

10. She's the quintessential American, and the one thing liberals hate most about America are Americans.

9. She's sworn that as soon as she gets to Washington, she's going to cut off the Democrats' b***s and put them on eBay.

8. She's an anti-choice extremist who has had five babies and never thought of killing any of them.

7. They're physically intimidated by her husband.

6. They're physically intimidated by her.

5. They just know that whenever they're not looking at her, she's pointing and laughing at their tallywackers.

4. She's murdered innocent moose and no one seems to care.

3. Hard working, blue-collar people are supposed to be anecdotes; they're not supposed to run for office.

2. Liberals are much more conscious of how shrill and annoying they are when they're around someone that knows how to use a gun.

And the number one reason liberals hate Palin...

It just seems unfair that someone can have the charisma of Obama with actual accomplishments to back it up.

http://www.imao.us/ "

chris van note wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:48 AM:

" Karl, why don't you take today off and can it with the conspiricy theory garbage.
Close to 3000 people died seven years ago at the hands of Muslim terrorists, show a little respect if possible. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:28 AM:

" Seven long years after the 9/11 murders and Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, and the other Neocon conspirators are still free men.
It's enough to make one sick with disgust.
I have to admit, I'll have the TV turned off today--don't need to see the "crocodile-tears" ceremonies by Bush. I'll bet he cracked a bottle of champagne at midnight! "

brew1234 wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:28 AM:

" I am not aware of any sick birds entering the US. Are they a health risk? "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:37 AM:

" Just because we have it better here than poor people have it in other countries, doesn't mean it's GOOD here, just less bad than there.

BTW, Canada doesn't have as much freedom of speech and so forth as we have. It's not advertised, but friends of our family have run up against it more than once and it wasn't pleasant.

Did no one every diagram sentences in school? You know, pick out the SUBJECT of a sentence, so you know to what the predicate applies?

Obama said that the CLAIM that McCain and Palin are going to bring change is like putting lipstick on a pig.

The SUBJECT of the sentence is "claim" or in the whole phrase "claim that they are going to bring change." The verb in the sentence is "is" -- a form of the infinitive To Be, and hence it works like an equals sign in an equation -- the claim that they'll bring change is equal to putting lipstick on a pig. I have to agree -- the claim is like a pig, and these two phonies saying they'll bring it on is like putting lipstick on a false claim.

Nowhere does this sentence say or imply that either INDIVIDUAL is a pig; rather, it says that their CLAIM of bringing change is fake, is like dressing up lies as something pretty.

NAFTA and "Free Trade" are disasters that have done more damage to this country than anything, perhaps even including the war. NAFTA has been strongly supported by both Republicats and Democans. I don't notice either candidate speaking out forcefully against it -- another area where the American people don't really have the choice we want on the ballot.

Unknown -- let's not forget to oppose this "free-trade-related" Ueber-Highway to bisect the country from Canada to Mexico; the environmental impact is only one of many bad features of this project, which to the best of my knowledge is already begun in parts of Texas.

White English Dutch French Austrian Bohemian Polish Scottish, if it matters. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:20 AM:

" This is Joe Biden's confidence in being VP. "Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Lets get that straight,” Biden said in Clinton’s defense.

“She’s easily qualified to be vice president … and quite frankly, might have been a better pick than me. But she’s first rate. I mean that sincerely. She is first rate. So let’s get that straight,” he said. "

dan w wrote on Sep 11, 2008 2:09 AM:

" A bus,train or plane leaves the USA every day. If its so bad here, leave. I do have a question, if its so bad here. Why are the illeagles sneaking over the border in droves? "

brew1234 wrote on Sep 11, 2008 12:25 AM:

" Karl did you miss this statement from CVN?
But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions.
Is he having delusions of granduer? He has never changed his selfish, uncaring, greedy views of right wing neo con beliefs. And when has he saved taxpayers millions? "

AJ wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:09 PM:

" Unknown, I gave a lot of thought to moving to Canada myself. Nova Scotia seems like a nice area, or perhaps closer between the falls and Toronto. But Canada itself is showing signs of consumed by corporate interests as well. They're years behind, but who knows. It does seem like the globalists are firmly in charge. If you do go, stay in touch! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:06 PM:

" Canada's "Socialist" medical policies are among the best in the civilized world.
Canada's life expectancy is 14th on the list with an age of 80.34 years.
America's is a dismal 45th!
We live FIVE YEARS LESS!! (78.06)
Put that in your pipe, Queenie. "

AJ wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:55 PM:

" theking wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:37 PM:
" unknown please move to canada. you couldn't do this country a bigger favor. socialism is alive and well up there. you would fit right in with all the freeloaders. since when was it the governments job to redistribute the wealth of hard working americans? "

Good question queenie. Which makes me always wonder why our own government gives the money from us hard working Americans to the filthy rich. Doesn't make any sense to me. This Robin Hood in reverse is truly puzzling and disgusting isn't it? "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:21 PM:

" dd...NAFTA, and the accompanying attachments (except for one) was orginally written by Bush Sr., near the end of his term, and was signed by Clinton shortly after he took office. Just a little bit of blame for everyone !! "

karl again... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:19 PM:

" cm, have you been watching the voluminous coverage of how many times McCain has used the "pig" line in reference to Hillary Clinton--to the delight of the partisan crowd.
I guess he was using it the same way, huh?
Chris Matthews of "HARDBALL"--certainly one of the most respected commentators out there today--did a rare editorial on the silliness and tragedy of the carping-on of this remark by the McCain campaign--he called it "an insult to the intelligence of our Democracy".
Well said.
EXACTLY.
cm, I would EXPECT you to "believe" what you believe--or should I say, to feign "believing" it because we know you can never admit you're wrong.
I'm not surprised. We have your number. "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:14 PM:

" King, you have no idea what you are talking about, but it's clear that you are a Bushy. "

dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:57 PM:

" Thank you AJ---I do agree with you on both points. Bush and Clinton are bums in alot of ways. "

dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:56 PM:

" Still haven't found the giant squid. Kind of a disappointment that I sat here for an hour just to see a squid.........hmph. Oh wait--at 1000ft--a freakin giant squid!!!!! Or is it an honest politician? Neither, I guess they don't exist. Looked big/honest, but upon further review, not that giant/honest. "

AJ wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:54 PM:

" dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:34 PM:
" Mr. Unknown---thank Mr and Mrs Clinton for NAFTA---funny how she says that she is not in support of it now. "

Funny how the conservatives railed against Clinton when he was acting just like them.

Like Bush Sr and Jr, Clinton is a corporatist. He never impressed me. "

theking wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:37 PM:

" unknown please move to canada. you couldn't do this country a bigger favor. socialism is alive and well up there. you would fit right in with all the freeloaders. since when was it the governments job to redistribute the wealth of hard working americans? "

dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:35 PM:

" History Channel right now---has a great documentary on finding the elusive-honest politician, uhem, I mean giant squid. Will never be found. "

dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:34 PM:

" Mr. Unknown---thank Mr and Mrs Clinton for NAFTA---funny how she says that she is not in support of it now. "

dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:34 PM:

" Why can't we all just give both candidates a good listen over the next 55 or so days, and make out decision based on their debates, and positions? THEN we can see what liars they are after they are elected. Still haven't decided who I am voting for. "

dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:31 PM:

" White Irish Scott German American---Cherry is still a racist. "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:36 PM:

" This is what we should be SCREAMING for, and what our prospective presidential proponents should be promising us:

WHEREAS Participation in the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) and the World Trade Organization (WTO) has meant a race to the bottom for workers, family farmers and the environment, contributing to a $600 + billion trade deficit and a loss of millions of US jobs; and

WHEREAS Free trade has encouraged companies in the U.S. to leave the country in search of low wages, low commodity prices, anti-union climates and lax environmental laws; and

WHEREAS Free trade has stocked our retail shelves with goods produced by foreign workers under harsh working conditions that would be illegal in this country; and

WHEREAS Free trade favors multinational corporations, not citizens or communities here or abroad; and

WHEREAS Free trade agreements are not fair and beneficial to U.S. agriculture and are a threat to our national food security; and

WHEREAS The December 2005 Hong Kong WTO negotiations on agricultural subsidies, domestic supports and market access and special treatment for developing nations failed to deliver a significant development package for poor countries; and

WHEREAS Expansion of the General Agreement on Trades in Services (GATS) leaves foreign water supplies, electrical services, healthcare and education unprotected from the greedy tactics of multinational corporations; therefore, be it

RESOLVED That we support measures to restore control of trade from multinational corporations to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government and for the benefit of U.S. citizens, by:

* Immediately withdrawing from NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO
* Opposing unfair “free trade” agreements such as the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)
* Opposing expansion of the General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS)
* Demanding Congress implement fair trade agreements that protect U.S. workers and farmers, the environment and strengthen local economies as well as affording comparable standards to global workers by guaranteeing livable wages, safe working conditions, child labor laws and environmental protections

Written by Kris Graham on January 27, 2006 "

cm wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:55 PM:

" very true karl: email Obama and tell him to stop talking about the 'pig' remark at his townhalls and on Letterman,
he can twist it in any direction he wants, but anyone with common sense knows what he meant/its called reading between the lines! "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:13 PM:

" Karl, I'm standing up applauding....
I couldn't take another 4-8 years of Republiscam policies. I'll move to Canada first. Bush has flat out RUINED this counrty, and it'll never be right again in my lifetime. He successfully shifted the tax burden from the rich corporatists, and laid it on us struggling middle class. REPEAL NAFTA!! "

AJ wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:42 PM:

" CVN, check out the LTTE. I have links there - you can see for yourself. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:05 PM:

" New poll--74% believe that McCain would be "more of the same". "

karl again... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:04 PM:

" Yu know, as I'm watching the coverage of the candidates, it's really just struck me that what this election is REALLY about is a test of how trule stupid the America people are or are not.
Here we have a party (the Republiscums) who are just flat-out, blatantly L-Y-I-N-G (Sarah Palin EVERY DAY lying about the BTN) and McSame L-Y-I-N-G about being a "change" candidate when he voted with Bush 90% of the time, and favors tax cuts for the Rich, and none for the Middle Class.
I mean, really--how STUPID will AMericans be? How DUMB will some be to vote for "personality" instead of "leadership"
The whole, desperate diversion of McCain/Palin's endless, empty charges of "sexism" blah, blah, blah--is proof that THEY think Americans are TOO STUPID to see that the issues are what maters. And they don't want to talk about that, because when you talk about issues, and not personality, MCCAIN LOSES--BIG.
There are a lot of claims and claimed "debunks" of how corrupt and "typically" Republican Sarah Palin is--of course we don't REALLY know yet, because she's being sequestered from the media, being thoroughly instructed in the "Art" of bold-faced lying and the Art of Obfuscation by the puppet masters.
Taking thousands of dollars from taxpayers to work in YOUR OWN HOME might be TECHNICALLY "legal" but it is CERTAINLY NOT ethical--especially if you're rtrying to posit yourself as some kind of "change" candidate! Sounds like typical Republican economic opportunism to me, i.e., 'more of the same"--but why should that surprise anyone?
McCain also said that she opposed putting polar bears on an endangered list because it placed obstacles in the way of Oil and Gas companies drilling and exploration.
Here we have one of the world's most magnificent animals, and a top predator in the food chain, and Palin doesn't give a crap about its welfare. Why should we be surprised--"God" will take care of the polar bears, right?
Palin DID ask about banning certain books from the library, but backed down under pressure. Amazing, it is, Chris, how you cherry-pick your info.
According to your OWN cited source:
When the librarian refused to concur with Palin's request "Palin initially requested Emmons’ resignation, along with those of Wasilla’s other department heads, in October 1996. The decision caused “a stir” in the small town, according to a newspaper account at the time. According to a widely circulated e-mail from Kilkenny, “city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter.”
This is worrisome enough!.
As far as being a Buchananite, or belonging to a secessionist party, that concerns me not. What IS relevant, is that this woman is another "Bushy"--just 4 more years of the same policies, the same religious ignorance being put into policy, and the same, hardheaded, stubborn, uncompromising and vindictive attitude which has paralyzed government in Washington for the last 8 years. And worst of all--MORE WAR, MORE WASTED LIVES AND MONEY
More tax breaks for the Rich--the Middle Class be damned. McCain's tax breaks would cost an estimated $417 billion compared to Barack's $360 billion. Bottom line, Chris, is that this woman is STILL manifestly unfit to stand behind a 72-year-old man in the White House and be trusted with the faet of this nation. And as soon as this election gets back to being about issues and not personality as the Republican spokesman recently said it was (how about THAT for Republican priorities?!), the sooner we will start debunking what's important. "

chris van note wrote on Sep 10, 2008 3:44 PM:

" Refute what I posted AJ...your rebuttal is "liar, liar, pants on fire"...with no collaberating facts or sources.

I guess the Obamessiah really is something special:

http://comedyjuice.com/2008/09/a-moment-for-the-history-books.html "

AJ wrote on Sep 10, 2008 3:38 PM:

" Did I forget to mention Palin still grabbed the money? Some reformer. "

AJ wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:54 PM:

" "Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge."

I'm not going to take the time to pick apart your entire WSJ post, but this is plainly BS. She killed the project ONLY after it was evident that she could NOT get FULL funding from Congress for a bridge that would go VASTLY over budget, and was becoming a POLITICAL LIABILITY.

Bottom line - she is lying!!!!!!!!!!!

She is a real porker, the bridge to nowhere aside. Her record speaks for itself. Look it up. "

chris van note wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:26 PM:

" To challenge the libs nonsense (lies actually) on Palin, here are excerpts from an article in the Wall Street Journal:

"But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up." -- Barack Obama, Sept. 6, 2008

Mrs. Palin used her veto pen to slash more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving state residents $268 million. This included vetoing a $30,000 van for Campfire USA and $200,000 for a tennis court irrigation system. She succinctly justified these cuts by saying they were "not a state responsibility."

Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana.

Mrs. Palin cut Alaska's federal earmark requests in half last year, one of the strongest moves against earmarks by any governor. It took real leadership to buck Alaska's decades-long earmark addiction.

Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005. His running mate, Joe Biden, is still indulging in earmarks, securing over $90 million worth this year.

Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.

When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys' club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.

More at this address:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122100927525717663.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries "

longboard315 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:02 PM:

" "Auburn sports will never go anywhere when we have coaches that have been around forever just collecting a check"

Once again 2Cents...you went back on your dumb-dumb pills, and back to saying STUPID, IGNORANT comments. Middle / High School coaches get paid SQUAT compared to the amount of time they put in. Have you ever coached a HS or Middle School Sport? Well I have, and let me tell you something....for 15-20 hrs / week, every week, for 2-3 months, and traveling all over the place for games (and on weekends mind you) and only walking away with anywhere from $700-$1000....that amounts to PEANUTS! And most coaches coach for the love of the sport, not to just collect a check because there are tons of other things to do with your free time that can pay bigger dividends. Secondly, a coach who can engage his kids day in and day out and have them work their hardest is not an easy thing to do, especially today with the way kids are (which are alot more lazier than kids 10-20 years ago at least). The most important thing is that kids are getting something out of the experience and that they are enjoying themselves enough to continue playing the sport. Otherwise, get rid of the coach. "

karl again... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:51 PM:

" The "lipstick" comment is just more diversionary crocodile tears CRAP from Republicans to take the focus off of McSame's lack of leadership and integrity.
Let's get back to the issues already! Put up or shut up already! "

forrest wrote on Sep 10, 2008 1:44 PM:

" 1 thur 0p, Cherry Duncan is far from an activist, as I said before she is a reverse racist. Movedsouth is right, go back and read her letters to the editor. There are a some outstanding African American leaders in Auburn and she is not one of them. "

1234567890p wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:54 PM:

" talk. I would rather be dead than to vote for either one! I think I'll vote for Obama. I'm a white Irish-American. How about you? "

1234567890p wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:49 PM:

" Cheryl Love (nee) Duncan is an activist. She is African-American. I Knew her quite a few years ago as Cherel Love. No9w, I agree, who is Sara from Alaska? While McCain is an old man by today'a standards If he dies in office, she'll take over. All she was was the Governor. former Myayor. Big Deal! does she have any foreign policy? all she does is "

karl again... wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:36 PM:

" Lots of very astute two cents submissions today.
Ahhhh! Smells nice in here! "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:22 PM:

" I don't think Obamas lipstick comment was against Palin, JUST POOR TIMING. I think it would have been better if he stuck with the walks like a duck. "

movedsouth wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:16 PM:

" QT, go to letters to the editor and read her racist letter. People of all colors should vote for Barack Obama "

LuvRetirement wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:14 PM:

" Better yet, quiver.... does anyone really care who she is? "

dd wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:43 AM:

" Exactly, quiver. "

quiveringthigh wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:31 AM:

" Who is Cherry Love Duncan?? "

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