" AJ---why didn't you use your only stand-by comment--"you guys just don't get it." Now, look at the statistics bestowed upon you by CM--they are accurate. By and large, the government knows what they are doing with the prisoners. I know that Karl and AJ believe that the terrorists will go away, and be the good citizens we all want them to be, but I think we all know the truth. I remember the planes on 9/11. I know you two think our government set it up, and blew the buildings up. I know you guys think you know it all. Just keep one thing in mind---We aren't imagining what has happened, and what is going on. Terrorism is a growing threat. Even if we choose to leave Iraq now, global terrorism is just in the infancy stages. We will not be left alone. Our lifestyles go against everything Islam teaches. Karl, do you believe for one minute that you could walk down a street in a radical Islamic state, and not be murdered? If you say yes, then I'd love to see it. I don't believe for one minute that our invasion of Iraq had much of an impact on how the radical Islamists felt about America. I don't think Bush has anything to do with it either. Just by living our lives here in Auburn, we are infidels. The people being held in Gitmo, I am sorry to say, may be innocent, but we have to sort them out from the ones that aren't. No one has ever said that war is fair. If it were fair, the terrorist networks would never have planned and carried out an attack on a NON MILITARY target (WTC). In fact, the terrorists would not even be called terrorists, now would they? They would be just another army. "

" Farmer's Gal wrote: "And isn't Passover all about celebrating the deaths of all the non-Jewish babies in the region?"
No, Passover celebrates the fact that the Jewish babies were saved. "

" Al Quaeda is NOT a terrorist "organization". It is a CIA "database" of guerilla fighters from the Afghan war that were recruited and trained by the CIA.

I'll say it again, the war on "terror" is a monumental FRAUD! "

" Pakastani parent knows we wouldnt BEHEAD just because we are bored today,
Or we were in need of a video to send to the infidels.

I agree we need laws, but some laws benefit only those that put them their to begin with.
then personally we humans have our own code of law, as do cops, as do guards, as do prisoners,etc.

We are NOT the FBI/CIA we dont know what info and how far they have to look to get it at. These radical people hide/live among the mountains/in caves/under the ground--they are not like Martha Stewart-an open book. Their info takes longer to find.

IN reading this: all in WHO you are Taliban or alQaeda..
"the captives have the fundamental right to due process of law under the Fifth Amendment. A district court has since held that the "Geneva Conventions applied to the Taliban captives, but not to members of al Qaeda terrorist organization"

IN this reading: waiting for adjustments to comply....
" 500 prisoners in Guantánamo Bay, only 10 have been tried by the Guantanamo military commission, but all cases have been stayed pending the adjustments being made to comply with the Hamdi decision by the U.S. Supreme Court"

Since the beginning of the current war in Afghanistan, 775 detainees have been brought to Guantanamo, approximately 420 of which have been released without charge.
As of May 2008, approximately 270 detainees remain. More than a fifth are cleared for release but may have to wait months or years because U.S. officials are finding it increasingly difficult to persuade countries to accept them.
(WHY DONT THEY GO BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTY?---karl the humanitarian???)

(is their country MORE dangerous than GITMO??)

On February 9, 2008, it was reported that 6 of the detainees at the Guantanamo Bay facility would be tried for conspiracy in the September 11, 2001 attacks.
(NICE GUYS??--give them a happy meal.) "

" The real "what if" to ask yourself is "What if my child were the one falsely accused?"

What if my child were a foreign exchange student, and was crossing a plaza in some other country on a visit to a monument or something, when terrorists blew something up. Some eyewitness thought he saw my kid running away in a suspicious manner, or he looked sort of like a suspect, or was wearing the same color shirt. Next thing you know, someone "knows" my kid is the one who killed a bunch of people, and he's thrown in a prison to be interrogated, no charges brought, no notice to his family, nothing, just snapped up and held, tortured into saying anything, etc.

Now imagine you were a decent Pakastani parent, for example, with no interest in politics, but your son is studying in the United States and the scenario above happens. How could you defend our country treating any person this way -- ever? "

" You four bore me ! "

" cm, you just prove yourself dumb, dumber and dumbest, with every successive post in which you try to dig yourself out of your ever-deepening hole of ignorance.
You just bore me at this point.
But go ahead; keep posting stories of blatantly guilty parties, (with which I AGREE) and ignoring those of truly innocent ones, just so that you have something--ANYTHING, apparently?!--to say in a weak rebuttal.
Pathetic. "

" An eight-month McClatchy investigation in 11 countries on three continents has found that Akhtiar was one of dozens of men - and, according to several officials, perhaps hundreds - whom the U.S. has wrongfully imprisoned in Afghanistan, Cuba and elsewhere on the basis of flimsy or fabricated evidence, old personal scores or bounty payments.

Read all of it here:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34138 "

" If it were my family, who knows? Maybe I would go vigilante and kill the SOB -- but then I would "hang" and I'd deserve it. It would be worth it to me.

But the law remains the law, and being human does not change the need to preserve the freedoms which set this country apart from the rest of the world. Neither does having something horrible happen to your own family. The inalienable rights transcend the personal. "

" sorry Fg you can try the case in the legal world but the truth is you already convicted in your head!
The real laws change when it is close to home-thats being human.

You seem to be a person of action--should this fake senerio happen to YOUR family and the guilty went free--you would not let a day of your life go by without trying to prove this persons guilt! NO matter what law is written in the books.

As we all know--every written law has a loop-hole. "

" Is that the best you got Karl--FAUX news--come up with something new--read a new book--buy a new dictionary!
You so cannot stand it when you are proved the smuck.
Innocent--were you there? do you know what they were doing? do you know their ties to whom?
the 2 FL boys in SC-in the middle of nowhere-near an military base-looking for gas when in fact they had allready filled their tank-and had GPS and fireworks in their car...
..a rocket scientist needed here!!!

I suppose the whole story being ON EVERY NEW STATION IN THE WORLD--must have been made up..
and not to fret soon one of the "nice guys" will go to an imaginary federal prison where he thinks he will get out within 15 years. "

" cm -- The law is still the law, and it is there to protect all of us. Without the law, it's just sheer vigilantism, and then we are left in a world where we are all at the mercy of those who have the most power. Without the law there is no justice, and without justice there is no freedom.

If the case is really as clear-cut as you present, then there is reasonable evidence to make an arrest - no need to incarcerate someone without charging him or her -- just charge the person with the crime.

If it is as clear cut as you describe, then when it goes to court the person will be convicted.

A lying girlfriend's testimony can be shown to be false, or doubt cast upon her testimony given her relationship with the accused. If he were wearing gloves, there would be no residue, so that's proof of nothing. And there is my testimony, that of an upstanding citizen and eyewitness.

Does it sometimes happen that a guilty person gets off? Of course. Humans are fallible. It also happens that innocent people are convicted and have their lives destroyed when they have done no wrong. Against this we must guard above all.

But if we are to set ourselves up as civilized people interested in justice, we must defend the law. I am sure that when he entered the service, your husband took an oath to defend The Constitution. All those rights I am defending here and which you are saying we should abandon are the very rights your husband is sworn to defend.

In a world ruled by vigilantism, anyone more powerful than you could declare they "know" the truth of your "guilt" and could strip you of everything you own, throw you in prison without even telling you why, beat and torture you, persecute and murder your family, and all because they say they are right and you are wrong, but they are stronger and more powerful. And there would be no authority to whom you could appeal for justice. Every person would live in fear of being unjustly accused by someone with more power -- there would be no freedom from fear, persecution, an injustice.

If you set yourself up as a person who believes in the principles upon which this country was founded, you have no leg upon which to stand when you seek to deny the freedoms the Founding Fathers guaranteed every person as inalienable rights.

Without law, there is no justice. Without justice, there is no freedom. "

" cm, your cognitive ability and reading comprehension approaches that of my Wet/Dry Vacuum.
Go ahead and post all the "horror stories" you want to try to justify the detaining of INNOCENT--I repeat, here let me spell that for you: I-N-N-O-C-E-N-T --people as opposed to "blatantly guilty" ones.
Sheesh--you're not real good at connecting relevant/IRrelevant facts and info are you?
I'm not surprised, with that crap you watch on Faux News.
You scare me, honestly, with your IR-rationale! Scared that you actually have the right to vote! "

" Holding people for years without giving them a hearing for cause. Sounds like something the Soviet communists did.

Me thinks DD is a closet communist.

Get out of the country you traitor! I'm sure they'll like your kind in North Korea. "

" karl, from the CNN article, "The United States is still holding about 65 detainees scheduled to be released to their home governments. But before that can happen, the United States has to get assurances the detainees will not be persecuted or harmed when they arrive home, Pentagon officials have said." Maybe there's a good reason their release is "under consideration". "

" Happy Father's Day to all..extra special wishes to karl & Aj's parents. "

" The law says everyone is innocent until proven guilty--but in some case the facts are the facts!
FG, if a stranger broke into your house-with a gun --and he shot one of your family members right in front of YOUR eyes --You know as well as I this person is GUILTY!
Going thru a trial--they proved the person had no gun residue on his hands, and an albi he was with his girlfriend.
YOU still know he is GUILTY!
BUT due to his rights he is set free to either revisit your house or maybe mine.
And YOU still know he is guilty!!

NOT for a single moment did you think this horrible person was innocent!!

it is all in the eyes of the beholder!
and sometimes the glove doesnt fit and guilty go free. "

" In case you need more info:

http://www2.tbo.com/static/special_reports/tbo_special_reports_news_usf_students_indicted/ "

" 3 Men Convicted In Ohio In Terrorism Case

Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said he couldn't comment on the plea agreement. But he noted it was signed the same day federal prosecutors won terrorism convictions against three Ohio men and extradited an international arms dealer to face federal charges in New York.

A federal jury in Ohio convicted Mohammad Zaki Amawi, 28, Marwan Othman El-Hindi, 45, and Wassim I. Mazloum, 27, of conspiring to commit terrorist acts against Americans overseas and other terrorism-related violations.

The three were convicted of conspiring to kill or maim U.S. military personnel serving in Iraq, and conspiring to provide material support to terrorists. Amawi and El-Hindi were also convicted of distributing information regarding the manufacture or use of explosives, according to Boyd.

International arms dealer Monzer Al Kassar, also known as Munawar and El Taous, arrived in New York on Friday from Spain on federal terrorism charges. Al Kassar faces charges of conspiring to sell millions of dollars' worth of weapons to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC - a designated foreign terrorist organization - to be used to kill Americans in Colombia, Boyd said. "

" A former University of South Florida student has agreed to plead guilty to a charge he provided support to terrorists when he posted an Internet video showing how to detonate a bomb with a remote-controlled toy, according to a plea agreement entered in the case Friday.

Ahmed Mohamed, an Egyptian citizen, was arrested, along with another student, Youssef Megahed, in South Carolina in August after deputies said they became suspicious of their car and then found explosive materials in the trunk. Both men were charged with transporting explosives.

Mohamed, 26, acknowledges in his plea agreement entered onto the U.S. District Court docket that he tried to help terrorists with the video he made and posted to the YouTube Web site.

The document says Mohamed told investigators he intended, with the video made in his Tampa apartment, to support attempts by terrorists to kill employees of the United States, including members of the military.

He wanted to teach "martyrdoms" and "suiciders" how to save themselves, he said, so they could continue to fight invaders, the plea agreement states. Mohamed said he considered the U.S. military and those fighting with the U.S. military in Arab countries to be invaders.
Video Described How To Best Use Toy Car

The plea agreement describes the 12-minute YouTube video, which was found on Mohamed's laptop in the car when the two men were arrested in South Carolina.

On the video, Mohamed demonstrated how a remote-control toy car could be disassembled and how the components of its chassis could be rewired and converted into a detonator for an explosive device, the agreement states.

When he finished using the car, he reassembled it and returned it to Wal-Mart for a cash credit.

On the video, Mohamed said in Arabic: "Instead of the brethren going to, to carry out martyrdom operations, no, may God bless him, he can use the explosion tools from a distance and preserve his life, God willing, the blessed and exalted, for the real battles, unless he was forced to do so," according to the agreement.

He added that the method allows bombers to make explosions from a distance of 35 to 200 meters. "In future lessons, God willing, we will show you how to make advanced circuits that can reach greater distances."

Goudie said the facts described in the plea agreement are the government's account. Mohamed's side, she said, "will come out at the time of sentencing."

Defense attorney Linda Moreno said Mohamed and his family "wanted a resolution after a long and agonizing decision." The parents, she said, "want a guarantee that their son will come out of prison. This plea is that guarantee."

AJ/KARL: I suppose this was all a dream too. Not to fret IF he gets out of prison what do you think he will do next??
Personally I dont think he will get out of prison--prisoners have their own sentencing--I know many of guards that can testify to that! "

" AJ wrote on Jun 14, 2008 5:18 PM:
" Brew, I think DD stands for Dumber than Dirt. DD has, along with queenie, CVC, CM, MS, etc, redefined stupid. "

What a stupid statement. I guess AJ just means "Another Jerk". "

" No, DD, in this country the police CANNOT round up people and hold them indefinitely for questioning. There is a very short time limit (coupla days tops) and then they MUST BE CHARGED OR RELEASED.

I don't even have TV and even I know that.

And if the government is holding someone BELIEVED to have murdered Mrs. Jones' son, if they have enough evidence to charge the person, they can keep holding the person. That is not the issue. The issue is when it is NOT KNOWN for a fact, when there is NOT reasonable enough evidence to arrest, then those persons must be released. This highly reasonable policy has been in place in this country for ages and has helped cut a fair balance to prevent both holding innocent people unfairly and letting guilty people go when they shouldn't be let out.

But I guess you think justice is only for us and screw everybody else. Hate to tell you, but then it isn't justice and it gives the rest of the world perfectly reasonable justification for hating us. "

" NO ONE is guilty until so proven in a court of law according to one of the most important concepts which sets us apart from the beasts. We KNOW FOR A FACT that people have been taken to Gitmo BY MISTAKE, people who were NOT terrorists by any stretch of the imagination, people who were wrongfully imprisoned and denied rights and gods know what all else. We are NO BETTER than those we are fighting if we cannot hold ourselves to our own standards. "

" Maybe this can help you neo-nuts understand a little better:

Supreme Court restores habeas corpus, strikes down key part of Military Commissions Act

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/12/boumediene/index.html "

" Brew, I think DD stands for Dumber than Dirt. DD has, along with queenie, CVC, CM, MS, etc, redefined stupid. "

" alright guys gotta go away for a few days--goin to gitmo to ask a few questions of the GUILTY prisoners. See ya "

" Obviously DD, you never take into consideration the possibility that, gasp, our government COULD BE LYING. Naw, that could NEVER happen here, could it? "

" I didn't know that DD stood for department of defense. DD seems to have this large resource of inside information. He knows facts that mere mortals have no clue of. Actually he lives in a fantasyland of his own making. I think DD stands for demented delusions. What makes you think you understand the workings of government more than anyone else? "

" You knew Karl. You read me like a book. I guess I can make one more statement because my fans are asking me to. Karl and AJ--it is reasonable for the police to collect a group of scumbags, hold them, and question them until they deem them innocent, or decide to try them if they fit a description, physical or otherwise, or gravitate to a particular group. Is that elementary enough for the two of you? Now, how can you blame the government for collecting some potentially innocent people when all they can do is yell--"Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalal!" They may have been yelling that they were not guilty, but who was to know since they could not be understood? I can't blame the government for taking them in because, birds of a feather. I suppose they are all innocent, and all deserve to be let go, huh. "

" I'm still waiting for queenie to let us know who those "flaming" liberals were on the Supreme Court that just decided prisoners still have rights too. "

" FG, I don't think the neo-nuts have ever read the constitution, and if they have, they probably think it is a communist document. There was an interesting poll done a couple of decades or so ago that showed that a large percentage of younger americans actually thought that, and they also thought we had TOO MANY rights. Amazing, but true. "

" Good idea DD, since you do not have a clue as to what you are talking about.

Nothing like being released AFTER one cannot be proven guilty of ANYTHING even after being tortured.

It would be really cool to see you as well as those who think like you swept up in their next round just to see you get a taste of what these innocent people have to go through. "

" LOL!
"Yea, lets move on to something wlse other than Gitmo. Karl is no challenge there"
Oh, Double-Dumb; you're so predictable, you actually warm my heart!
I knew--KNEW!--you wouldn't have a comeback to the IRREFUTABLE FACTS!
Scary, it is though, how well you parrot Hannity and O'Really?
Score: DD-0; Karl-1
GO OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! "

" Yea, lets move on to something wlse other than Gitmo. Karl is no challenge there. "

" Wow CVN--imagine that--liberal democrats voting to screw America. Jeez--that never happens unless they have some sort of perk attached to it to benefit themselves. "

" Right Karl! When the government deems them to be of no threat to the US, they are released. Just as you say, some news organizations are incorrect, I believe that they never have to entire story. Also, like I typed, some of these people may have not actively taken part in terrorist activities, but are sympathisers. Funny how you mention flimsey reasons for holding someone. The pilots of the planes that flew into the WTC were suspected terrorists, and were never hauled in, not due wholly to lack of communication by the CIA and FBI, but to flimsy evidence. Someone somewhere was worried about hurting the feelings of some foreigner---The part about hurting the feelings of a foreigner is the fault of the ACLU--the biggest group of traitors in the US. The people you mentioned, did spend time training with the Taliban. Reason enough to keep them here. The networks job is to provoke the public. You don't know the half of what goes on in this world. Just because the news said so, doesn't make it the whole truth. I guess Karl if you believe everything the networks say, you would know that 9/11 may have been the work of two planes flying into WTC. imagine that!!! "

" I thought this was pretty interesting!

American-Made Oil and Gas: A History of Support and Opposition

(Percentages are for Every Supply Vote in the House)



When it comes to taking meaningful steps to provide affordable energy to the american people, Congress has both the ability and responsibility to act. Unfortunately, a clear pattern has emerged over the years as one party consistently has fought to increase access to homegrown energy reserves, while the other has consistently voted to expand America’s dependence on foreign, unstable energy instead.



BY THE ISSUE



ANWR Exploration

House Republicans: 91% Supported

House Democrats: 86% Opposed



Coal-to-Liquid

House Republicans: 97% Supported

House Democrats: 78% Opposed



Oil Shale Exploration

House Republicans: 90% Supported

House Democrats: 86% Opposed



Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Exploration

House Republicans: 81% Supported

House Democrats: 83% Opposed



Refinery Increased Capacity

House Republicans: 97% Supported

House Democrats: 96% Opposed



SUMMARY



91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of American-made oil and gas



86% of House Democrats have historically voted against increasing the production of American-made oil and gas "

" From CBS News at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/11/eveningnews/main525342.shtml
"Guantanamo Bay detention camp appears to host a significant number of people who have no reason to be there.
According to Pentagon sources, Abassin Roshan is one of about 60 detainees whose release is "under consideration"

From ABC News at http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1629283
"But ABC News has exclusive details about five men imprisoned at Guantanamo who even the Pentagon admits don't pose a national security threat"
"...When they were captured on the Fagan-Pakistan border in 2001, the U.S. military branded them enemy combatants, saying they admitted to spending time at a Taliban training camp. When they were finally given a chance to defend themselves last year, a military tribunal determined they posed no threat to the United States."
-----PROOF ENOUGH FOR YA, CHRIS?? DOUBLE-DUMB???! "

" CNN and MSNBC both ran stories on how some of the detainees held at Gitmo were simply people in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Look at the 6 prisoners who were recently tried by the government for like, what--the third time? And were recently found innocent for the third time? Because the government didn't have a case. These are the types of SOME of the prisoners at Gitmo--people hauled in for the flimsiest of reasons.
It's precisely THESE people who should be shown what the charges are against them , and what the evidence is. If the evidence is strong enough, then keep them in detention, but the basic right of habeus corpus should apply to these prisoners.
I mean, really-what's the other option--hold them indefinitely without charge or trial, at how many thousands of dollars a day?! Get real! "

" Boy, Karl with a K you just never stop. Our POW's were captured in the country the were in and KEPT there. Gitonomo Bay is in Cuba. These people were not caught in Cuba. They have been treated really well, compared to our POW's. If you ever get the chance to speak with one, please do. How's the band? "

" Here's an interesting story from CNN on Gitmo. http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/07/gitmo.bomber/index.html "

" Hey Vannote--I have one for you--I'm sorry your son was killed Mrs. Jones. We had the person responsible for your son's death in custody, but some liberal attorney kept filing lawsuits to free the prisoners of war, and finally got him freed. He went right back to Iraq, hooked up with his buddies, built an IED, and set it off next to your son who was handing out candy bars to the children in an open air market. Coincidentally, the explosion killed another 20 innocent people minding their own business. Talking about traitors, the ACLU are some of the biggest-Vannote. "

" sorry karl i cant take credit for that statement although its true. that soy milk is really eating at your brain. line up the prisoners and let the 5.56's fly. "

" Really Karl----some of those held at gitmo are innocent. Where'd you read that--from something AJ wrote? I can assure you that I am neither mis-informed or dumb Karl. Are you familiar with the Geneva Convention with regard to the treatment of prisoners? You should read it. Now, after you read it, please recognize that George Bush did not author it. You also need to recognize that those being held, may not have directly participated in crimes against American Citizens, but may have kept company with those that have. So, the US government is correct in how they have detained the enemy combatants in gitmo. We are prudent in attempting to disrupt the terrorist organizations. Another couple of questions question Karl--Do you believe that terrorist organizations exist? Or--Do you believe they only existed for the past 8 years? Do you believe that they will just leave everyone else alone if they are allowed to run amuck? I'd really like to know, because the way you write, Karl, would lead me to believe that we are all imagining this, and the government is behind it all. That, my friend would be double dumb, and mis-informed. "

" Karl,
Can you provide proof that the people we caught on the battlefield or thru intelligence are innocent as you stated?
Can you imagine releasing German or Japanese prisoners while the war was still going? Some of those "innnocent" people sent home from Gitmo have been killed or recaptured while attacking US and coallition forces. Karl, you want to explain that to the parents of a soldier? Gee, we're sorry...we had the guy in custody but felt bad for him and let him go... "

" WELL SPOKEN, Farmer's Gal!!!
I sometimes can't believe the dearth of information that reaches American airwaves about the Crimes Against Humanity committed by Israel against the Palestinian people! When I read s book by Thomas Friedman--who is not exactly known as a "Palestinian apologist"!--I couldn't believe the hardships and cruelty that the Palestinians are forced to live under!
Israel has had a free ride for faaaar too long in the world court--Sharon should have hung as a War Criminal too! "

" Double-Dumb, you are misinformed. Prisoners of war are just that--people swept up in the fog of war, and many of those in Gitmo ARE INNOCENT.
Can you show me a statement where it says that prisoners of war ARE GUILTY until proven innocent? "

" How is it that Bill Fulton got his secretary job back in the budget when we have a civil service commission, a full time clerk in the office AND a Human Resource Director sitting in her plush office with nothing to do and yet earning a big fat salary and now we need a "secretary" in the civil service office too who was rightly cut out of the budget but then put back in with a $2,000. raise!! Sounds like Quill & Joker and the good ol' boys back to work again... "

" Prisoners of war are different than US citizens held for a crime. There is a different group of standards. Can someone tell me where it was ever agreed that prisoners of war are innocent until proven guilty? ---Well well well, there is AJ again with the old stand by statement--"you just don't get it." Get what AJ? Farmers gal---the prisoners ARE the tyrants we fight. "

" My favorite from the other day: says if his parents had been Muslims, he'd be a Muslim, but since his parents raised him Christian, he's a Christian.

Now, even as a godless heathen myself, I can have respect for a Christian (or person of any religion) if they come by their religion by faith - because it's what's in their hearts and it's what they believe in, because they've thought it through, considered mind and heart both, and find they have faith.

But I can't see any substantiative difference between being Christians because your parents told you to and being brought up in a cult -- religious faith on the grounds that it's what you were told to do? What kind of flimsy faith is that?

But then it's taken a step further: Because the person is a Christian, and a follower of Christ, therefore he must support Israel against Muslim countries.

Wow! Is that a prize non-sequitur or what?

First, in general, the Jewish faith doesn't put much stock in Jesus. And isn't Passover all about celebrating the deaths of all the non-Jewish babies in the region? Nope, I can't see how being a follower of Jesus would in any logical fashion lead to supporting the Jewish State.

(Don't take my words the wrong way -- An indictment of the State of Israel and even criticism of certain aspects of the Jewish religion are NOT against Jewish persons any more than to criticize certain aspects of various flavors of the Christian religion is to say all Christians are bad people -- because they aren't, not in either case. Similarly, criticizing Israel is not a condemnation of every person living in that country any more than criticizing our own government would be the same thing).

Our blind and unconditional support of the hypocritical state of Israel is by far the largest single factor motivating Islamic extremists against the United States. If we had a truly even-handed policy towards all nations in the Middle East, if we held ALL those nations equally accountable for unacceptable behaviors, things would not be as they are. It's too late now to go back and change our own stupid mistakes, but there you are.

But to think there are people who base the decision to make such an imbalanced approach to foreign affairs, one which has led to deadlocked unresolvable opposing positions, on "what I was raised to think" rather than on either logic or faith of the heart, well, it's no wonder we are where we are. "

" What are we fighting for if not to defend the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution? We have those laws to insure justice, and in particular, "innocent until PROVEN guilty."

If we don't extend "certain inalienable rights endowed us by our Creator" to every living person, then our government is no better than the tyrants against whom we fight. "

" I wish they would give a set time or about as to when they are changing the "two cents" site to the "next day" "

" I think at least you'll be interested in this Karl. Michael Reagan at it again, only worse than you may have ever imagined.. Truly a slime ball. Reminds me of something queenie might say.

Michael Reagan Wants to Kill Mark Dice/9/11 Truthers

http://911blogger.com/node/16100 "

" And what happens when the enemy starts killing all our soldiers also? You are not too bright. We could try using due process to try war criminals and not hold them for years with no evidence. Not one terrorist has been proven guilty and sentenced in a trial. "

" Queenie still doesn't get it. Is anyone here surprised? Unbelievable. Queenie would make quite a tryrant! "

" "This treasonous decision by the traitors on the Supreme Court is going to leave our military having to change the way they fight wars from now on."--Queenie, no doubt you authored this BS? What a foooooooool! "

" "We have no conservative letters, and we don't have any conservative columnists."
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!
CAN I GET A "HALLELUJAH!" PEOPLE??!???! "