“My goodness! Where will this end?” asks Peter K. DeBellis with the typical misguided paranoia and scientific ignorance of the conservative viewpoint when confronting the reality of gay marriage and homosexuality in general.
First of all, let's get something straight; being born gay to the extent that one could or would even think about marrying another of the same sex for life is neither a “lifestyle,” nor a “choice.” It is a scientifically proven fact discovered, tested and replicated by Dr. Gunter Doerner at the University of Humboldt in Berlin. It doesn't matter one hoot if you “don't agree with it.”
This is not the same as “situational homosexuality” which occurs in the deprivation of the opposite sex such as in prison. Furthermore, when re-introduced to an opposite-sex partner, very few “situational homosexuals” continue with relations with the same sex - much less marry one!
Many people who are born gay also spend years in “phony” marriages due to social pressure and fear, until they “come out.” These examples are, however, perhaps from where the pervasive myth of “lifestyle choice” originates.
People such as Mr. DeBellis should reflect upon Barack Obama's astute characterization of the changing cultural paradigms of today's younger generation.
“Kids #- 7, 8, 9 years old #- take for granted now that, of course, a black can run for president. Of course, a woman can run for president. There's a matter-of-factness to it that I think bodes well for the future.”
There is also an undeniable and unstoppable movement to reject the 1st-century unscientific ignorance of religious-based bigotry and to once again embrace the true ideals of the Enlightenment values upon which our country was founded “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness #- for all #- gay people included!
It's not a question of “morality,” but of “equality” #- and it's about time!
Karl Logan
Auburn
This is not the same as “situational homosexuality” which occurs in the deprivation of the opposite sex such as in prison. Furthermore, when re-introduced to an opposite-sex partner, very few “situational homosexuals” continue with relations with the same sex - much less marry one!
Many people who are born gay also spend years in “phony” marriages due to social pressure and fear, until they “come out.” These examples are, however, perhaps from where the pervasive myth of “lifestyle choice” originates.
People such as Mr. DeBellis should reflect upon Barack Obama's astute characterization of the changing cultural paradigms of today's younger generation.
“Kids #- 7, 8, 9 years old #- take for granted now that, of course, a black can run for president. Of course, a woman can run for president. There's a matter-of-factness to it that I think bodes well for the future.”
There is also an undeniable and unstoppable movement to reject the 1st-century unscientific ignorance of religious-based bigotry and to once again embrace the true ideals of the Enlightenment values upon which our country was founded “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness #- for all #- gay people included!
It's not a question of “morality,” but of “equality” #- and it's about time!
Karl Logan
Auburn
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EJ2521 wrote on Jun 12, 2008 4:42 PM:
cm wrote on Jun 12, 2008 11:16 AM:
How about discussing gay divorces?
In order for it to happen you have to establish residency in a state/country that approves the marriages-which are MA/soon CA/and Canada....which due to laws right now, divorce can include several different court sytems.
THEN: in michigan one cannot get the others health coverage since their law says marriage is between a man/woman.
In NY (last yr) a man couldnt recieve work comp bennys after his married partner was killed in an accident.
A recent NY group sued the governor for oversteppiong his bounds approving healthcare for gay spouse.
It may be easy to LOVE but as in man/woman marriages it the honeymoon can end at any time! "
doodles13021 wrote on Jun 12, 2008 11:14 AM:
MzHavisham wrote on Jun 12, 2008 9:49 AM:
karl wrote on Jun 11, 2008 9:20 PM:
How about "LOVE" you pompous, ignorant fool? "
karl wrote on Jun 11, 2008 9:19 PM:
NOw, where were we?
OK, LISTEN UP PEOPLE!
THERE IS NO--I REPEAT--NO GAY GENE!!!
AND THIS IS NOT WHAT DOERNER AVERRED.
So get over the whole "Gene thing" OK?
It's a prenatal "sexing" of the brain, due to hormonal fluctuations in the womb. period. Doerner proved it, repeated the experiment, proved it again, created "gay" rats, found LH surges ONLY in Gay men (as opposed to straight).
Furthermore, Gay men perceive smells exactly like a female, with regards to the sweat of heterosexual men. The SAME reactions that females have in the brain, so do Gay men. "Straight" men did not-totally different pattern. Proven by the Karolinska Institute.
I'm not even going to waste my time refuting cm YET AGAIN--it's just seriously starting to bore me.
DD--your theory about prisoners is just that--YOUR "personal" theory. It's completely at odds with the research, so you're entitled to it at your own risk of remaining ignorant. Yes, true--there ARE die-hard "straight men" in prison but just like there are bisexual men AND women, it is entirely feasible and realistic that if people can be born with a huge myriad of physical traits, it is perfectly reasonable to believe that there are 1 Straight, 2 Gay, and 3. In-Between, or bisexual.
The loneliness of prison could be the "push" over that line for some guys. For you to paint it in black and white is just, well....expected! LOL! "
cm wrote on Jun 11, 2008 8:09 PM:
A marriage certificate is nothing but a piece of paper, just because your are married doesnt mean your spouse "leaves" you all his/her property. "
cm wrote on Jun 11, 2008 8:04 PM:
archive Mr. DeBellis letter/ and two cents!
One of my points to karl is that one cannot be born gay unless there IS a gay gene. I have yet to find a gay gene in any research-feel free to share your links! "
dd wrote on Jun 11, 2008 7:05 PM:
EJ2521 wrote on Jun 11, 2008 4:44 PM:
cm wrote on Jun 11, 2008 3:42 PM:
Karl also states one is BORN gay..but yet he says there is No gay GENE..
what makes you who yo are??
Postnatal !! "