" Short 20 minute interview with John Cusack
on War, INC.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/23/war_inc_john_cusacks_new_film "

" Hey CM if ya dont like it dont watch it ! "

" The devil is always in the details..

The Irony of a Bush Farm Bill Veto
by Katherine Ozer

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/21/9124/ "

" GOD BLESS our troops, past and present! "

" Ellen DeGeneres--one show that wouldnt be missed if it was off the air!
I wouldn't call McCain a bigot--atleast he says it like he feels it. Unlike Obama (yesterday)
1. I love my pastor
2. I dont need to wear a pin
3. No Iraq war.
Obama (TODAY)
1. pastor who?? I denounce him!
2. GOt my PIN ON--right here!
3. Iraq No way but Afghanistan -we a coming for you!!!

I dont care what one calls me--I disagree with Gay relationships.
YUK! GROSS! UTTERLY DISGUSTING!!!! "

" Sure, movedsouth, as soon as you can make a believable case for it. Good luck. "

" OK it's Memorial Day weekend, can we give the war and politics a break and just honor the military that have given their lives so we could have the freedom we have? "

" So John McCain disagrees with gay marriage but supports civil unions and that makes him a bigot?
You see folks, if you disagree with a liberal point of view you are uniformed or a bigot or a racist or a combination of the three. "

" I guess my point was--Karl--it is easy to demolish someone when you show up to the knife fight with a gun--as Degeneres did. I don't believe for a minute that McCain showed up to discuss gays. Would Ellen do the same thing to Obama, or Clinton on other issues? Probably not. McCain is the only one with the guts to show up and speak to the liberal media. Where are Obama and Clinton on the conservative tour? Nowhere is correct. "

" Well CVN, we already socialize the costs, so why not go all the way and socialize the profits too?

The oil companies have proven to be less than stellar 'citizens', and should be taught a lesson. "

" Chris--thanks for my morning laugh--"Socialism"
LOL!
Guffaw!
HAw HAW!!
LMFAO!!!
YOU're too much--"Socialism" (walks away shaking head and laughing muttering "socialism!" lol!)
What is it with your obsession with this dead ideology? Do you even UNDERSTAND its relevance to the rise of the USSR and why it was felt to be necessary at the time?
I'll bet you don't!
I don't have time now, but it looks like I'm going to have to educate you at some point....again! "

" Ellen DeGeneres DEMOLISHED John McCain yesterday on her show, concerning Gay Marriage! Boy, was it embarrassing for McCain! He looked like an old, old man, and a bigot. He was almost tongue-tied when Ellen called him out on his bigotry against Gay Marriage. It was a looong time coming that someone finally confronted one of these bigots and showed their true face to the world!
cm--I DID read into that site, and it's soft-pedaling hogwash. The fact is, that although organizations KNOW that the evidence is in, and that being Gay is mostly a matter of in-utero hormonal fluctuations, they can't state that as dogmatically as I will because they're afraid of losing their funding when they would come under attack by Conservative watchdogs, aka, the "Swift Boat" types who would try to destroy their credibility. But if you read the site I provided, there is no room for doubt. It's pretty clear. "

" The idea of natonalized oil and gas is terrifying. "

" But, CVN, your post was not at all funny. Not even close. Moronic and stupid yes, but not funny. "

" Hey Brew--someone has to study it. "

" Oh AJ, I know it has to be tough carrying all the burden of being smarter, funnier, most informed and compassionate liberal human being (besides Karl of course) in the tri-state area but you really need to work on a sense of humor.

On the oil/gas issue: Did anyone else catch raving moonbat Maxine Waters (D-CA) suggest that we nationalize oil and gas? She called herself a liberal, and said she would "socialize" the industry.
Funny how the liberals rail against invasive government yet as soon as there is some problem (gas prices, health care, etc...) they want the government to step in and run the show.
Hypocritical doesn't even begin to describe kooks like Waters.

"

" I have to agree with Karl. I've worked with an awful lot of gay individuals -- at Wells (male and female), at Ithaca, and most of my football team were lesbian now that I think about it. I saw lots of young women "try out" the lesbian thing, while others were clearly "born that way" -- most of the former seem to end up married to men. No big deal either way.

But like any other group of people, the gay people I've known come in a wide variety -- all races and religions, wealthy and poor, private and flamboyant, good friends and real jerks, and even liberal AND conservative! Mostly I don't even think about it any more unless someone brings it up.

I don't want the government telling me how I can think or feel, or what I can do in the privacy of my own home as long as it isn't illegal/damaging to others -- so I have to stand for the same rights for others.

I remember someone once told me that she didn't approve of homosexuality -- but she knew it wasn't her place or her business to approve or disapprove of someone else's life. She didn't approve, but she accepted -- and had gay friends and relatives whom she respected and with whom she got along very well.

You can live peacefully with others who are not like you, and even of whom you "disapprove," if you choose to do so. And in the meantime, hope others feel the same way about you. "

" I suggest you read further into the site!
If you read MORE you would see that it is NOT totally proven YET--there are MANY theories on the issue,UPDATED.. But as with any subject stats are stats and can change daily, just as beauty is in the eyes of the beholder!

http://www.gayprocon.org/bin/procon/procon.cgi?database=5-C-Subs-3.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=18&rnd=64.81705625527623 "

" to the king: I knew I could get you going, your simple LOL "

" cm, NEVER once did I claim that there is a "Gay Gene"--it is NOT a genetic causal factor, but a developmental/hormonal effect caused in utero. It has been proved; furthermore, it has been tested in animals with absolute 100% concrete results at the University of Humboldt in Berlin, by Dr Gunter Doerner.
This link is particularly well spoken:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199706/homosexuality-biology/3
And also, it is not unnatural for people to experiment with either heterosexual OR homosexual feelings or behavior, IMO.
It would be just as wrong for me to think that ALL homosexuals are 100% "wired" that way, as it would for you or anyone to believe that all make some sort of "choice"--if anything, the wide varieties of human sexuality and behaviors should prove that to discriminate against, and form half-cocked theories like connecting pedophilia with gay orientation is completely unwarranted and silly. "

" Now I know what DD stands for Doctor of Dung! "

" karl if you plan to TRY to ge smarter then you should read more updated information>alot has happened since 1979.
http://www.gayprocon.org/bin/procon/procon.cgi?database=5%2dB%2edb&command=viewone&id=5&op=t

http://www.avert.org/hsexu2.htm

especially:
http://www.gayprocon.org/bin/procon/procon.cgi?database=5-C-Subs-3.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=17&rnd=622.3157950507203

Maybe NOW you'll be smarter than a 5th grader!
"

" Obama's Secret War Profiteering Tax

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/obamas-secret-war-profiteering-tax

CVN, that top ten is lamer than your moronic kickstand joke.

"

" Peter Dale Scott will be on at 9:00 pm est
you can stream here...

http://airamerica.com/clout "

" cm, please allow me to educate you.
The American Psychological Association says pedophiles are ’85 to 90% heterosexual.”
In “Sexual Abuse of Boys” published in the American Medical Association Journal; “...perpetrators tend to be males who consider themselves to be heterosexuals.”
In USA Today (1994)- “Child Molesters Rarely Homosexuals.”
In Jay and Youngs’ “The Gay Report” (1979) found only 1/3 of pedophiles to be gay.
Rosa Grube, education coordinator at the SAVAR rape crisis ward of Cayuga Counseling Services and author of “Kids and Company Together for Safety” said “I’ve never seen homosexuals to be an issue with child molesters.”
Both Grube and professionals on the National Child Abuse hotline assert that child sexual abuse is, like rape, a crime of anger, power, and control- NOT sex. And 90% of victims know their abusers. Sexual preferences have NOTHING to do with child abuse. NOTHING!
It's ok, honey; you don't have to say it--just you and I can know that you're all wrong on your assumptions which were previously before today based on ignorance of the facts. It's ok, though--now you're smarter, right? "

" actualy I have recieved responses from a few I have emailed. The latest was Arnold in CA. He does email back quickly too. In my area I have recieved emails from several offices, overall I think most do-depending on the subject.And how you speak to them! hahaha

I watched some of the HOUSE today on this farm bill stuff..a whole bunch of people without a clue! Some porks were supposedly slipped in, without REP's knowing, plus the whole error issue.
Not so funny listening to a group say we need to "take this approved bill" back to our people for the memorial weekend--yet the Pres still has to see it/veto it/then they vote again...
"when does the other bill expire?" (tomorrow) dah!!!
watching this for an hour or so makes me wonder WHY did anyone vote these dopes into office and lets pass something to get them out NOW!!!! "

" From IMAO:

TOP TEN WAYS THE DEMOCRAT NATIONAL CONVENTION COULD BE EVEN LAMER

10. Only the most carbon neutral entertainment allowed: Mimes.

9. Every hour they turn on FOX News for two minutes of hate.

8. Second day is all freestyle poetry.

7. Celebratory balloons being dropped on crowd replaced with much more biodegradable dyed hay.

6. Tolerance competitions!

5. To waste less electricity on microphones, all speakers will communicate through sign language.

4. Keynote speaker: Walter Mondale.

3. They announce that the Democrats' symbol of the donkey is to be replaced with the much more appropriate Queen of the Faeries.

2. All signs must include an Esperanto translation.

And the number one way the Democrat National Convention could be even lamer...

If they hear a single person use "Democrat" as an adjective, the whole thing is called off.

"

" Despite more than $22 million in repairs, a levee that broke with catastrophic effect during Hurricane Katrina is leaking again because of the mushy ground on which New Orleans was built.
(bush's fault)
The Army Corps of Engineers has spent about $4 billion so far of the $14 billion set aside by Congress to repair and upgrade the area's hundreds of miles of levees by 2011.
(bush's fault)
Some outside experts said the leak could mean that billions more will be needed and that some of the work already completed may need to be redone!
(bush's fault)
"

" I think it depends on the member of Congress how much attention they give to e-mails. I've heard some have a threshold -- if the staff person scanning their public e-mail account tallies, say, 10 e-mails all on the same subject, then the issue is forwarded to the member of Congress to read, or if so many come in all from the same POV on an issue, then it gets taken more seriously. Mostly I doubt they read individual e-mails from constituents on a regular and consistent basis. "

" Pentangelli--Your comments are ridiculous. I am a doctor, so I guess I'm not stupid. I live a pretty good life, so I don't think I'm spiteful. Anyway, maybe the board should poll those who voted, and ask the question: Why did you vote no? Maybe there are some things that can be improved upon. Maybe it has little to do with actual dollars, and more with "sense". Did you like the "sense" part? I thought it up all by my stupid lonesome. Anyway, why would the same budget be sent to the taxpayers when they voted no? So that maybe they can round up another 3-4 puppets? I will start recruiting "no's" to counteract. By the way, I am a doctor of things only I know, so does that count? "

" Hey, pentangelli, I voted "no", and I'm an engineer. What you got to say now??? "

" CM DO THE SENATORS ACTUALLY READ THE EMAILS OR DO THE AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE JUNK BIN. I FEEL LIKE ITS A WASTE OF TIME. YOU NEVER GET FEEDBACK AND THE VOTE DOESN'T CHANGE. AND TO IRRITATED, I GUESS YOU ARE STUPID FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MOST INDUSTRIALIZED NATION IN THE WORLD NEEDS OIL. "

" Countless surveys have been done that state homosexuality has no connection to child molestation. But bigots just don't listen to facts. "

" Also FYI John Lester pitched and won the seventh game of the World Series against Colorado last year. Less than 2 years ago he was getting chemotheraphy for cancer. After his no hitter John embraced Terry Francona and later told the press "he is like my second father". This also says a lot about the coach. You can't help but find inspiration in this story regardless of team affiliation. As his coach said "John Lester is a good, good kid". "

" farm bill update:

Democrats are picking up the pieces after an embarrassing technical goof that delayed a triumphant rejection of President Bush's veto of a massive farm bill.

Members from both parties hoped to bring the $290 billion bill, which includes election-year subsidies for farmers and food stamps for the poor, due to a printing error, after the discovery that Congress had omitted a 34-page section of the bill, action stalled.

Under current law, there is no income limit for farmers, and married couples who make less than one-fourth of their income from farming will not receive subsidies if their joint income exceeds $5 million.(if Bush veto's)

(If Bush veto's), Individuals who make more than $500,000 or couples who make more than $1 million jointly in nonfarm income also would not be eligible for subsidies.

Boost nutrition programs, including food stamps and emergency domestic food aid, by more than $10 billion over 10 years.(hiding behind a need for more food stamps for USA is "emergency domestic food aid=other countries)

The credit supports the blending of fuel with the corn-based additive. More money would go to cellulosic ethanol, made from plant matter.(in other words food prices will NOT LOWER for the next 10 yrs)

Your senators email addys are all online--before you have family fun this memorial weekend--send them nasty-grams on their voting yes for this-it is the last time to try to stop this bill.......WE VOTE NO!

lawmakers are anxious about their own prospects:
aka----farm land THEY OWN and make profit on!!
"

" Sorry karl--- no way do I want guys to be kissing--girls either! And I disagree they "all" were born that way!
I believe child molesting has more to do with it than we realize!

Don't waste your time with sources,I have read alot of them, and still say marriage/and the "S-word" are between a man & a woman!

I missed Larry King last night, I was busy doing volunteer work from 10 am-11pm.
I did see some of Obama's visit to FL. funny to ignore the state all this time but guess who will be the deciding factor again? Florida!
BY the way he WORE the PIN!!!!
(http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036 )

"

" King -- it's your right to think two guys kissing is gross. That's your business, just as it's theirs to kiss each other. No skin off your nose what two consenting adults do -- live and let live.

Reading the rest of your post, it sounds like there very well may be more common ground in there than has been showing up in the mostly adversarial back and forth we've seen heretofore.

Here's one place I'd start talking: I'd like smaller government too, but the reduction needs to come in the right places. Cut out the programs and politicians which are in place mainly to perpetuate the "opulence of the minority." Make the good of ALL the people the focus, rather than "What's good for General Motors is good for the country." Eliminate extraneous bureaucracy and streamline processes. Redirect the majority of military spending into defending our borders here at home rather than costly pointless wars abroad. You may agree with some of these and not others, but it'd be a start.

We need to learn to live within our means, and that includes natural resources. People don't seem to be learning the lesson from running out of one and are ready to dash headlong into more environmental destruction in pursuit of another. Instead, we need to pressure energy producers to work harder and faster to finding, improving, and perfecting safe renewable alternative energy sources -- like solar and small-scale windmills, for example.

Past-posted this late the other day; thought it worth repeating:

Who cares if "they" blame "Liberals" (or "Conservatives")? Those are all just labels -- labels which, sadly, many of us have internalized.

GML is on the money -- keep everyone distracted with bickering between themselves and it leaves those truly in power free from any real opposition. The old divide and conquer strategy is working so well we do it to ourselves and the real Bad People (tm) don't have to lift a finger to keep us out of their hair.

That doesn't mean that there isn't plenty of corruption in our government -- quite the contrary. They've just got it down so well....

Personally, I'm not sure if I believe 9/11 was an outright "conspiracy" or an event which politicians had a hand in manipulating into happening and/or suspected and allowed to happen -- either way, I have no doubt that afterwards they leveraged the spin for their own political agendas. I'm not sure it matters all that much. The point is, one cannot trust our government, and one cannot put anything past the real people in power (which I doubt includes every person in Congress -- I am sure there are some honest and earnest people mixed in for credibility) - and that needs to change.

As citizens, we need to work to effect that change. It's the "long string of usurpations" as in the Declaration of Independence.

It is pointless arguing issues with people whom you know will not change their minds, and it is counter-productive (and makes you, and hence your cause, look bad) to go on and on with name-calling and stooping to levels beneath you. Stop wasting energy on the unwinnable battles (isn't that what many of us say about the current war?!??) and instead put your efforts in places where you have a better chance of making a difference.

Consider your audience -- adapt your topic and approach to meet them where they are. You'll have a better chance of people listening and considering what you have to say. "

" alternate parking-hmm..
giving out-of-towners ticket for NOT knowing which side seems like a great way to say "welcome to Auburn" "

" very sickening that another country gets to drill of the coast of OUR state!! "

" The King... why are Americans so stupid you ask? by reading your posts I would say you are the best American to answer that question. "

" You vote twice in this city, because the first round result wasn't what they wanted.

I think year round alternate parking is a good thing. It will prevent a bottle neck on our roads.

Yankees baseball is as farse as the moon visit? Where are you reading this crap? Some people are so gullable. "

" In the last 20 years I have witnessed some of the finest teachers leave Auburn and go where they AND education are appreciated. This resentment, for the educated and education costs, stems from envy, misery and depression caused by people that were to lazy or less fortunate in getting an education. A NO VOTE SAYS "I AM DUMB AND SPITEFUL." "

" Man, did anyone see Mike Reagan (yeah, THAT "Mike Reagan"!) make a total A$$ out of himself on Larry King last night?
What a chickenhawk! He was such a slimebag--he actually sunk to the level of bringing a GI Joe-type doll of Jesse Ventura on the show to try to insult Ventura; but what would you expect from a Conservative? "

" Queenie, I have NO PROBLEM AT ALL with two guys kissing--it doesn't even so much as make me take a second glance. So what if two people kiss? WHo cares if they're man, woman, or both? I notice you didn't say anything about two hot women kissing--hmmmm?
Now here's the thing, Queenie--try to follow ke here. Even though I personally have no interest in kissing another man, I wouldn't want to try to restrict the right of two men who are BORN THAT WAY to kiss each other! I mean, for cris'sake, Queenie--you don't want politicians to restrict the right of people to own and shoot guns and other dangerous weapons, but you would (I presume?) support the prohibition of two men kissing each other?!?!
What the hell is wrong with THAT picture, Queenie? Or do you need me to tell you?!? SHEESH!
By the way, Queen--ask yourself, when did you DECIDE that you were attracted to women? Did you ever really have to think about it, or flip a coin and say, well, gee I think I like men "that way"?
NO, of course you didn't --BECAUSE YOU WERE BORN THAT WAY!
Now, do I need to really explain the point I'm trying to make here?!!!! "

" unknown the only answer is to drill drill drill. it will take a while so we need to start now. chinas doing it off the coast of florida. why are americans so stupid. i do agree with you on the school budget crap. "

" Why is it that we have to vote on things twice in this city?? Seems pretty arrogant to me. Guess the school board doesn't like to be told "no". "

" Pretty soon, only the rich will be able to drive to work. The oil companies are strangling the people. "

" By reading Aj's latest posts, I can't help notice how he/she only paste's the words that make him/her look good. Kind of like the media. Next time post the entire quote, you Bozo! "

" AJ I GUESS THE TRUTH HURTS. YOU SHOULD BE EMBARASSED TO THINK 911 WAS A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY. I WOULD GLADLY BUY YOU A BUMPER STICKER SAYING THAT. YOU WOULD BE THE JOKE OF THE CITY. "

" theking wrote on May 21, 2008 6:21 PM:
i dont want to take up a whole page so i think i'll stop. "

Thanks, we appreciate that. "

" dd wrote on May 21, 2008 6:06 PM:
" AJ has all the answers."

I truly am flattered. Thanks, but no, thanks, just the same. "

" aj what a man you are. you call me the king of crap like a little boy and then you turn around and say you your going to call the police on me. what a tough liberal you are. "

" idk karl i just think two guys kissing is pretty gross. i guess you think otherwise. i think smaller government is better than larger. i think lower takes are better than higher taxes. i think people should be responsible for themselves and not others. i think the national security of the US should come before a few animals. i do agree with you and aj that 98.7 % of politicians are very corrupt. i just think there are too many social programs that cost too much money. i think kids are punks these days and you cant just set them straight whith a good butt whoopin like in the old days, and that i think is a big problem. i honestly think there should be seven political parties. i am also not a fan of the left due to gun control policies. the only people who would follow them would be law abiding people and that would put them in danger. look at washington DC you cant even protect yourself. i also agree with obamas stance on the gas tax holiday because its a bunch of crap and wont do anything to lower prices, and i think the vote to stop us from buying oil for our reserve is a bad idea because it wont make a difference in price and god forbid something major happend and we needed it. i dont want to take up a whole page so i think i'll stop. "

" AJ has all the answers. Its all a conspiracy theory is the only thing he has to say. No proof of any conspiracy theory. He just says so. I'm still waiting for the proof, AJ. Not your typical answer---"I've done the in depth research, now you research it for yourself. You just don't get it." I could dream up stories in my head too, and call them theories. It doesn't mean they make any sense. "

" geez, thekingofcrap, last I knew the republicans have been in control much more than the dems in the last 30 years.

give me a break...

don't get me wrong though, the dems "ain't" much better than the truly despicable republicans masquerading as human beings these days. There are a lot fewer of them though "

" Queenie, ask a Gay American, a poor American, or an Atheist how they can "argue with Conservative values"!
As far as I see, Conservatives don't have ANY "values" that are worth bragging about over so-called "Liberal" values.
Values are values--there are those based on fear and xenophobia--racism, discrimination, religiousness, bigotry, and then there are humanistic values, equality for all, compassion, help for the sick and the poor.
Tell me, king---what sounds like "Conservative" values, and what sound "Liberal" to you?
'nuff said! "

" TJ, you don't even realize what you are saying. You say "because I don't follow the conpsiracy theory" as if it is some sort of joke. Just let me remind you, as I have had to do countless times on this forum, that the "official" story is nothing but a "conspiracy theory" in and of itself. Again, it comes down to whose conspiracy theory you want to believe. Frankly, the "official" conspiracy theory is complete nonsense, and should be plain for anyone to see. "

" i dont think any democrats have the right to complain about gas prices or energy prices. you are the onces blocking drilling and exploration. you are the ones blocking the construction of new refineries. you are the ones resisting new power plants. isnt the environment a world problem. i think the US would be more efficient at drilling and containing any mess. this country criticizes the OPEC for not producing more oil but why should they when we wont do it our self? china will be using every drop of oil that is produced today 10 years from now. then what war for oil? we need to do something now. but if the dems get their way and our military gets smaller since they dont think we need a large one china will kick some US but competing for oil in the future. i mean how many of you plan on going up to alaska with your ice picks for vacation? you will sacrifice the prosperity of the US for a small peice of land? look at what this no oil more ethanol policy is doing to our food prices, gas prices and our economy. i dont get it. "

" aj the medial is mostly liberal. many military officers have agreed that the media has unfairly covered not just the war but also abu ghraib. yes things were wrong but they were being investigated and fixed. but the media makes the US look like the only evil country on earth. all that excessive and exaggerated coverage only makes people hate the US which seems to be what cnn msnbc time, etc.. want. Soldiers die because of stupid crap like that, but no one thinks twice when an americans head is cut off. and karl i did read that link from aj. im sure its very possible all that is true. im not a bush fan. the war was a stupid idea but im a conservative. so i will always vote republican over dem or ind. i dont see how any true american can argue with conservative values. "

" I am a Yankee fan, but I have to give props to Lester of the red sox. I think everyone is proud of him. Now on to other business........Ted Kennedy has met Karma. Good luck with Karma Ted, you're gonna need it. "

" How come the people who think the media in this country is by and large "liberal" seem to be so ignorant? "

" well, Karl and AJ, we both have our own opinions on this. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Bush or Cheney fan, i can't wait till they are out of there, and yes, I'm voting for Obama. I just don't believe that our gov't had any direct role in 9/11. And before you say anything AJ, i have read both sides of the issue, and just because I don't follow the conpsiracy theory does not make me any less of a person then you or Karl. I agree to the most part that this war in Iraq is hurting our country. Instead of spending billions on that war, we should be spending that money on ourselves, to help the economy, improve healthcare, and any other domestic issues that have come up. I want to see this war end, and all of our troops come home alive instead of in body bags.
To AJ and Karl, this is all i'm gonna say about the conspiracy theory. I have my opinion, and arguing with you two is not gonna change my mind. I'm not gonna say that I'm right or you are right. We are both adults with our own views, and just leave it at that. If you have a problem with that, well then, I feel sorry for both of you.
Just my 2 cents, hehehe... "