If the New York state Conservative Party ever endorses this liberal McCain who's in favor of global warming, amnesty and against drilling in America, it will mean that the Conservative Party will go the way of the Whig, Liberal and Green parties --- just a small footnote in history.
The foolish John McCain and Muslim-loving, white-hating Barack Hussein Obama both keep making speeches the saying Republicans are going to reach across the aisle and make friends with Democrats and work together. They both ignore the fact every single time a Republicans has ever done that, the Democrats defecate on them at the expense of patriotic, taxpaying good Americans.
We patriotic Americans are very anxious to see someone beat the left-wing Valesky next November. But we have to know more about the candidate, and we hope The Citizen consults citizens like myself to determine the questions needed to be asked of them to pin them down.
Bush has gone off the deep end accusing the Democrats of appeasment when he is nothing but a petty, fascist dictator himself.
I didn't know Mrs. McCain was running for office. If she isn't, it's none of your business how much money she makes, so why don't you put your tax return in the paper, nosey!
It's bad enough Tuesday you don't have a conservative column, although I sympathize with you because of the way they're treated if they do write something pro-American. But you keep putting in these leftwing kooks, right from Washington or India or someplace.
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AJ wrote on May 19, 2008 2:01 PM:
CM, anyone who was duped by the intelligence, as claims Hilary Clinton, shows they are not fit to hold office.
Put your brilliant "investigative" mind to work for once to ferret out the facts.
HINT: Stay away from corporate media accounts, especially FOX news. "
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 19, 2008 1:53 PM:
When you are talking about debating politics in a public forum, having superior muscles is entirely irrelevant.
Neither a female nor an African-American should be selected over a better-qualified candidate for a job, scholarship, etc, regardless of that other candidate's gender, race, religion, sexual-orientation, etc. As far as my opinions go, I believe in Equal Opportunity, but not in Affirmative Action, as I do not believe the latter to be fair or equal. Best candidate gets the position, regardless of gender, race, etc -- I want to KNOW I am the best person for the job; I don't want it handed to me because of the chance of having been born female.
I daresay there are women qualified to be on the front lines in combat, just as there are men who aren't. The rules about such things as that and accomodations for civil service exams were put into effect by others with stupid assumptions about women.
Having played women's pro football --full tackle, NFL rules, real football, with some women ranging up over 300 pounds -- I know women who would do just as well as any man on the front lines. In fact, one of my teammates went off to Iraq for a tour of duty just outside Baghdad immediately following the 2003-04 season.
Neither I nor my teammates "ran like girls" as you so prejudicially put it. What does "run like a girl" mean, anyway? What rubbish. We ran like the athletes we were.
Meanwhile, have you ever seen Karl or AJ run? And even if you had, what's it got to do with arguing poltics in a public forum? -- Answer: Absolutely nothing, it's just low mud-slinging, of which there's been too much on all sides the past couple days. It's pointless and tedious and gets us nowhere. "
Unknown... wrote on May 19, 2008 12:08 PM:
theking wrote on May 19, 2008 11:22 AM:
quiveringthigh wrote on May 19, 2008 11:18 AM:
" (AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 10:13 PM)
talk about a hypocrite--didn't see this sentence when a pal mentioned "wegmans/quiver", along with same buddy and "NO health insurance"..
my my how one flip-flops depending on whom he is refering too? "
Can someone enlighten me on the post???? "
chris van note wrote on May 19, 2008 9:11 AM:
“You can’t drive your SUVs, eat what you want, and heat your homes to 72 degrees and expect other countries to just say OK. That’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen.”
There are just so many things wrong with that statement...A vote for Obama is a vote that brings us one step closer to socialism. "
cm wrote on May 19, 2008 8:31 AM:
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
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cm wrote on May 19, 2008 8:17 AM:
cm wrote on May 19, 2008 8:13 AM:
Even Congress doesn't hold a "high security clearance"!
Again there is NO existing person with facts!
Maybe you should join the CIA (if you can pass clearance) and find out for the good of Americans! "
AJ wrote on May 19, 2008 7:58 AM:
the kingofcrap, you scare me about as much as an ant. It's usually people who bark the loudest (you) that are the biggest pansies. Why aren't you over in Iraq anyhow, "mr patriot"?
But I'll tell you what, keep those threats coming and I WILL take action. "
cm wrote on May 19, 2008 7:57 AM:
talk about a hypocrite--didn't see this sentence when a pal mentioned "wegmans/quiver", along with same buddy and "NO health insurance"..
my my how one flip-flops depending on whom he is refering too? "
cm wrote on May 19, 2008 7:52 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 19, 2008 7:21 AM:
Proud to have been a girl and now a woman myself.... "
theking wrote on May 19, 2008 12:14 AM:
AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 10:41 PM:
Ooooh, thekingofcrap, you're so macho. I'm really skeered. Is that a veiled threat? As you are likely not aware, online threats ARE a felony and they are prohibited in this forum.
You haven't answered a SINGLE question I have posed, because you CANNOT, simply because the OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY IS NONSENSE, and you do not possess the logical accumen to realize it. Plainly put, if you have done any research at all and you believe that crap, you are just plain stupid. There are scientists and engineers ALL OVER THE PLACE, and the number is growing quickly, that are questioning the official "conspiracy theory", because it is so full of holes and contradictions that it DOES NOT HOLD UP TO ANY SCRUTINY.
Just continue being the good Nazi shill that you are, but don't think that that will save you. And nothing is going to save you from your absolute stupidity.
THEKINGOFCRAP = CLUELESS
Sure, CM, you would have made an excellent investigator - in your dreams maybe. "
AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 10:27 PM:
Anyone who has Rupert Murdoch behind them, FORGET IT!!! Clinton is more of a republican than a democrat, and is so wishy washy with 0 principles, she is not worthy of the nomination. "
AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 10:24 PM:
This is one of the reasons you would make a lousy investigator!
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AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 10:13 PM:
You haven't answered a SINGLE "
cm wrote on May 18, 2008 9:19 PM:
However I do know Obama wont be my choice.
Out of all his ideals, the only one I like, is the fact of putting federal spending OUR money online for all to see: how much and where it goes!. Even if we see it, gripe, not much will change but it will be interesting to watch.
I don't feel he has the experience to deal with the war we are into or the one he plans to hit full blown (Afghanistan), which he has mentioned alot lately. Bring our troops home but GO HERE and spend more monies we don't have.
I don't like the buddy-buddy of the Kennedy Family either, almost near mafia type. Scary, even if John Jr. was a major GQ!
For sure its a little too late for him to "disown" his pastor of 20+ years! More like a publicity stunt/ I think we are being "punked".
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cm wrote on May 18, 2008 8:56 PM:
(she reads here-loves our debates)
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cm wrote on May 18, 2008 8:44 PM:
You speak of Obama/Kennedy---and we all know the tragedys that have befalling that family! and still going--like the energizer bunny...
speaking of the US royal family, I wonder how the people of CA voted NO last NOV.to gay-marriages but it recently became a law there? I should email Arnold.. "
30yrdem wrote on May 18, 2008 8:12 PM:
to him talk about Operation Turn Down. As the MSM keeps trying to push
Clinton from the race we must rise up. Let everyone know we won't vote
Obama in November. Stand up and let your voice be heard. Now is the time
to declare yourself. Go to Corbett's Corner and send him an e-mail telling
him why you won't vote for Obama. We must fight the elites in Washington.
http://tinyurl.com/6b37mn
Women from OH.,MI.,FL.,PA. have a lage group of there own going.
They were on Bill O'May 16,08.
Youtube from Bill O's show.
Clinton supporters threaten boycott.
http://tinyurl.com/593tj7
Other Youtubes
Clinton supporters will vote McCain 1
http://tinyurl.com/68mw8s
Clinton supporters will vote McCain 2
http://tinyurl.com/58lel3
Clinton supporters will vote McCain 3 "
cm wrote on May 18, 2008 7:53 PM:
I do LIKE to know the truths but some subjects are near to impossible to find the truths.
There are reasons why the average person does not hold a "high security clearance" but not mean we are always being lied to.
I totally disapprove of those who come "out of the woodwork" 20-30-50 years later-I ask why did they speak now? money? fame? their day in the spotlight? These kinds of people with what ever story are usually NOT the truth! Similar to OJ's pal-who speaks out now-what a bunch of BS! Same with Diana's "true blue" butler!
when it comes to 9/11--I do think there were hints from Osama, but we as a country either didn't take it seriously or only had parts of the story.
NO true terrorists make a public announcement "hey on 9/11 watch out for planes in the sky hitting the towers"!!
As for why the buildings came down? Unless you have the exact same prototype and the exact same plane, hit at the exact same spot, NO one can be truly EXACT on what will/did happen!!
As for #7--maybe all of it was suppose to go/EVRY building? maybe someone chickened out? maybe someone died before all could be done the way Osama has planned?
How do you explain the one the people on the plane diverted? people on cell phones describing who had them hostage?
did they say it was a crazed American?NO!!
Personally I feel if our government was even an inkling involved someone with "high clearance" would have spoke out, why? because this person would be a hero and live a life of gold.Why hasn't this person come forward? because HE/SHE DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!
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karl wrote on May 18, 2008 7:51 PM:
And what's this about me writing something back in May 17? (Dosn't sound familiar to me???!!) What do you have--a file on me? Are you my biggest fan?! LOL! "
theking wrote on May 18, 2008 7:40 PM:
cm wrote on May 18, 2008 6:34 PM:
The fatal flaw of Dem's and liberalism:
the heart overrules the head and detrimental consequences usually follow! "
(karl wrote on May 17, 2008 12:54 PM)
cm=You do know all the TRAGIC events to the Kennedy Family over these years??
I rest my case! "
cm wrote on May 18, 2008 6:20 PM:
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/scientist-shifts-view-on-global-warming/20080518143309990001?icid=1615988631x1202539822x1200305793 "
karl wrote on May 18, 2008 6:19 PM:
Case in point--when Hitler had wanted an excuse to go after Communist sympathizers (who were mostly Jewish in Germany at that time) the Nazi's had the Reichstag building firebombed and then blamed it on a young Communist sympathizer, using that as THE EXCUSE to start the pogroms and the deportations to the camps.
(BTW, this was recently confirmed in a 1990 new work by two German authors, Bahar and Kugel using Gestapo archival material from Moscow)
Hmmm--sound familiar?
The neocons seem to have lifted a page right out of history--and remember; at the end of WWII the German people said "we didn't know, we didn't WANT to know" about the camps, the torture, the mad dreams of the Nazi's.
Wouldn't YOU want to know? Why do you really think that the idea could be so far fetched?
As far as "America-hating" people looking for the truth, I would think that people like you who are resolved to keep their heads in the sand about something which so obviously stinks are MORE disloyal, unpatriotic, whatever--than people who want to see the TRUTH come out, and the REAL perpetrators brought to justice?
Now, I want you to prove that you can answer a serious question without a lot of Hannity-esque guff and bluster? "
theking wrote on May 18, 2008 5:44 PM:
AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 3:09 PM:
Now, go lookup the definition of the word "conspiracy".
Then come back here with a straight face and tell me you do not believe that there was a "conspiracy" behind 9/11.
It all boils down to "who's" "conspiracy theory" you choose to believe. After spending countless hours researching and weighing the evidence, (and lack thereof) I have NO reason to believe the "official conspiracy theory". And if you had any brains, you would have no reason to believe it either.
But then again, I have a deeper understanding of history which helps, an understanding of how the media operates, and also have a basic understanding of structural engineering, which gives me an advantage. "
karl wrote on May 18, 2008 1:54 PM:
I absolutely, unreservedly believe that Cheney was the "Architect". overseer, and as it stands now, the greatest beneficiary of 9/11. Rumsfeld had his hand in it too. Bush? Undoubtedly he knew, but played the public face of feigned concern and propaganda. "
AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 1:31 PM:
http://foxattacks.com/blog/38991-hilarious-behind-the-scenes-look-at-o-reilly-s-meltdown "
theking wrote on May 18, 2008 1:20 PM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 18, 2008 1:12 PM:
quiveringthigh wrote on May 18, 2008 1:03 PM:
AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 12:51 PM:
I just found a great new site that responds to Fox's bs:
http://foxattacks.com/ "
karl wrote on May 18, 2008 12:44 PM:
karl wrote on May 18, 2008 12:39 PM:
karl wrote on May 18, 2008 12:35 PM:
LOL!
I mean, NOBODY could be THAT stupid, or gullible!....right Queenie?........uh,....right?....
Queenie?.........hello?..... "
karl wrote on May 18, 2008 12:34 PM:
Did the gas companies up here pay for the right to drill per-acre as they have in Pa? "
vic wrote on May 18, 2008 12:08 PM:
They must not have cable TV where you live. Hilary's middle name is NOT Rodham, that is her maiden name.
Barak is not Middle Eastern either, he has a white mother and an African father. If you don't want to vote for the guy fine, but people need to make sure that they know their facts. "
theking wrote on May 18, 2008 11:55 AM:
Jim wrote on May 18, 2008 11:37 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 18, 2008 9:17 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 18, 2008 9:13 AM:
cm wrote on May 18, 2008 8:39 AM:
http://realestate.aol.com/article/news/_a/kentucky-residents-can-rent-garden-space/20080514090309990001?ncid=AOLCOMMre00dynlsec0003 "
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 18, 2008 5:06 AM:
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 18, 2008 5:04 AM:
I have one friend who is among those who let them drill on his land. They've been in and out for over a year and he hasn't seen a penny yet.
I have another pair of friends who were part of that movement in Tompkins County who are resisting drilling -- they refused to sign away the rights to anything under their land, so if someone drills next door and the deposit is under their land too, they have to be paid its full value -- I believe that's how it goes.
Personally, I don't trust any corporation. They aren't about to give anything away free and will take all they can, give back as little as they can get away with, and trample the environment and neighbor's peace in the process.
I can tell you the drilling upsets lifestock. While they were drilling day and night at the one friend's place, there was a continuous thudding pounding noise you could hear and feel over a mile away. Another person with beef cattle nearby had trouble because it so upset the cows that they were mooing all day and all night. It's very disturbing to hear animals in distress continuously for days like that. "
AJ wrote on May 18, 2008 2:52 AM:
http://tinyurl.com/66qbda "
quiveringthigh wrote on May 18, 2008 12:10 AM:
" Anyone have any idea what John McCain or Hilary Clinton's middle name is off the top of their head (yes I know I can google it). Point is Barak's middle name has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR!!!!! If you don't like what his suggested policies are, point that out and don't vote for him. But you look like an idiot if you keep bringing up his middle name. "
Hillary's middle name is Rodham. You must not have cable tv. Ever since her husband was president, she was referred to as Hillary Rodham Clinton. I think the posters are referring to is that Barrack Obama's name has influence of Middle Eastern heritage.
I do think it's funny though. We as a country are considering putting either a black, islamic man or a woman is the white house. Neither has been done before. I am not being prejudice. Just noting the obvious. Geraldine didn't make the cut, and that was when the women's liberation was basically on a decline. I don't know, if Mickey Mouse decides to run, he may get my vote. Why not? Ralph Nader, is he on the ballot? "
vic wrote on May 17, 2008 11:27 PM:
movedsouth wrote on May 17, 2008 7:57 PM:
karl wrote on May 17, 2008 6:13 PM:
AJ wrote on May 17, 2008 6:02 PM:
The wingers will be happy to know that Michael Moore will be voting for Obama, and he has a new video coming out probably after the election. "
AJ wrote on May 17, 2008 5:52 PM:
karl wrote on May 17, 2008 5:34 PM:
YAAAAY!
It's about time you got on that ol' Obama train, Queenie!!!
YOu too DD!
Man, I 'm just so filled with hope today! YOu guys really DO like Obama! YOu really LIKE HIM!
YAY!!!! YAY to "opposite day"!!! "
AJ wrote on May 17, 2008 5:32 PM:
AJ wrote on May 17, 2008 5:31 PM:
DD, I have made my case so why won't you debate the points? You have no ground to stand on, which is probably why you won't. What I have stated are undeniable FACTS that are not even in dispute. You don't like agree with them because they prove that the "official" conspiracy theory is the fraud that it is, and you simply cannot accept that. You asked me to back up my statements/claims and I already have numerous times, with links to highly credible sources. Don't take my word for it do your own research.
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Farmer's Gal wrote on May 17, 2008 5:30 PM:
The rest is polemics and I will remain out of it. "
theking wrote on May 17, 2008 4:45 PM:
theking wrote on May 17, 2008 4:44 PM:
stevedallas wrote on May 17, 2008 4:28 PM:
dd wrote on May 17, 2008 4:04 PM:
dd wrote on May 17, 2008 4:02 PM:
quiveringthigh wrote on May 17, 2008 3:49 PM:
It's not Gravy Train, Crazy Train, or even a Midnight train to Georgia.
"
karl wrote on May 17, 2008 3:29 PM:
Down in Pennsylvania, the farmers have been offered first $27 then $31, then $51.00 per acre for the right to drill deep wells on their land, with offers of 17% or so share in profits in the event of discovery.
Now, the offers are up to $2100.00 per acre!--but here's the rub--it can really poison your water table and the rigs make an awful mess,--plus the pipelines needed to transport it.
ANyone here anything yet? "
karl wrote on May 17, 2008 3:23 PM:
Queenie, what you rant is so much empty guff, just like your Right-WIng hatred puke and veiled racism.
The problem is that you guys want to ONLY talk about stupid, unsubstantiative issues like Barack's coor, or his mother, or some lunatic pastor, blah, blah, blah. YOu want to create a straw man and then burn it down.
And at the same tie, you talk about voting for John "flip-flopper" McCain, as if he has ANY integrity!?!?!
WHAT A PANDERING PUKE!
AND A HYPOCRIT!!!!
Yesterday he rips on Obama for saying that he would talk to leaders of Iran, and then the news comes out that HE HIMSELF had said the SAME THING 6 months ago!
YOu know what, Queenie? Taken as a whole, your comments are nothing but the discontented ravings of an irascible, bitter, xenophobic old racist who has NOTHING to bring to the table but the same ol' Liberal-bashing C-R-A-P!
WHy not just get on the inevitable Obama train?
Come on, now--sing it with me...."All we are saaaaaying...is give peace a chaaaaance!"!! "
theking wrote on May 17, 2008 2:29 PM:
We can't talk about race. We can't talk about mobsters who are his friends. We can't talk about schooling. We can't talk about his name, "Hussein." We can't talk about his lack of experience. Can't talk about his income. Can't talk about his flag pin. We can't call him a liberal. It started out we just couldn't talk about his ears. Now we can't say anything about him. This just shows that the Liberal media is on his side and if you say anything your a racist. Wow didn't you claim I was a racist. What a suprise coming from a Left Wing Lunatic. "
Farmer's Gal wrote on May 17, 2008 2:18 PM:
No biggie, Karl, but it's Nikita, not Mikita -- maybe just a typo. If I were transliterating, I'd spell the last name Krushchev, but I think there are variations when not using cyrllic letters. "
karl wrote on May 17, 2008 12:54 PM:
The guy was 34 years old at the time.
Something for you guys to think about, those who are saying Barack is "too young" or "too inexperienced".
He also made some great points about how Kennedy knew that "Peace" and "Strength" was about TALKING and DIPLOMACY, not just sheer stupid arrogance and aggression. Something else for you "military thinking-types" to sit there and ponder.
God--could you just imagine what would happen today if the War Criminals in the White House today were "the Deciders" back then?!!
(Shudder!!) "
karl wrote on May 17, 2008 11:58 AM:
YOu must have calluses on those grubby paws of yours, Queenie! "