" Intellegent come back, idiot. Well thought out. I understand your lack of comprehension. I haven't heard anything that great come from your mouth. Just stick to the point and try to discuss issues not just make attacks. I may attack but it is related to some issue. You have no point except the one on top of your head. "

" Queenie, put your panties back on, you womanchild, you.
YOu would give your kid a gun for a birthday gift?!
Boy. That's "love"!
"Here, son! Now go kill something!" LOL!
By the way, Queenie--I'm all ears, sitting on my couch with a steaming cappuccino, just ready for you to explain to me how "Liberals" are "ruining America"?!
OH?? YOU MEAN WORSE THAN THE CONSERVATIVE A-HOLES HAVE COMPLETELY RUINED IT ALREADY?!?!
Sorry, Queenie--the verdict's in on this one. CONSERVATISM IS BAD FOR AMERICA!
Deal, siisypants! "

" cm, I just lost all remaining respect for you too....how could you agree with such hyper-patriotic hogwash? Have you lost your reasoning ability as well?
Apparently?!!! "

" Chris van coulter, ever the voice of idiocy and blind, hyper-patriotic un-reason on this site, LOL!
Chris, it's SCARY what they've turned you into, man. Just a parrot for neocon propaganda. Do you want a cracker?
1Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy--no, Hezbollah is NOT an "enemy" that we need to be concerned with. And Al Queda is just a response to OUR terrorists, the CIA. Fair is Fair.
Additionally, fear of the all encompassing "TERRORISTS!!!" is where this canard applies. I know you understand; you're just being facetious.
2Create a gulag--Gitmo IS an American gulag. Half the people there have been or ARE being held without any charges at all, or without access to lawyers or effective counsel.
3.Develop a thug caste...Blackwater employees. 'Nuff said.
4.Set up an internal surveillance system--FISA is counter-Constitutional, illegal, and God only knows what other illegal surveillance the government is running on us right now.
5.Harass citizens’ groups--Peace activists, pro-abortionists, and anti-Bush demonstrators have been targeted by the IRS for harassment. They have also been surveilled at public demonstrations and recorded by camera. God knows what files Cheney's thugs are keeping on average Americans?
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release.--demonstrators at the Republican National Convention were arrested and illegally detained without explanation or charges in an empty, rat-infested warehouse in NYC in 2000. Other incidents have been documented by Alex Jones as well.
7.Control the press--oh come ON Chris, are you SERIOUS? How about the pressuring of NASA scientists to change reports of global warming? NASA scientists are media spokesmen too! And press club members have reported examples of how they are unwelcomed or barred from asking questions at press conferences. How about Armstrong Williams being paid $240.000 to promote the No Child Left Behind program? What--bribery is not an attempt to control the press?
9.Equate dissent with treason--again, are you serious, Chris? "If you;re not with us, you're against us!"--puhleeez!
10.Suspend the rule of law--again, Chris-it's scary to me how ou are just unwilling or unale to see the obvious. Uh, let's see--how about an illegal, aggressive war to start? How about illegal torture and waterboarding? How about suspending habeus corpus? How about the FISA program itself? There's MANY examples of Bush putting himself above the law! All on record--and that scumbag will hopefully pay for it when he's a private citizen! I, for one, will never stop urging he and Cheney's arrest as war criminals!
Sorry to see that you don't understand the difference between death and sex either. Just one off the many things you're confused about...
Chris, with 100% seriousness here--it frightens me, the lengths you will go to to buy into each and every neocon talking point that Cheney and his ministers regurgitate. I mean, if it ever came to that point, you are the FIRST PERSON that I would imagine pulling on the high black jackboots and cracking the skulls of your fellow Americans. I mean, what HAPPENED to you, Chris? It's frightening how you have apparently completely suspended your critical reasoning! Remember Chris--dissent is the HIGHEST form of patriotism! "

" I agree with you, KING! "

" i believe i did pass a background check. if i didnt i dont think i would have a valid ccw permit. and there are backround checks at guns shows smarty pants. and there are background checks for the sale of pistols mr. know it all. i dont think i should have to do paperwork to give my son one of my rifles for his birthday. your a liberal coward who is ruining this great country of america. liberals like you are the problem. no matter what you say theres no getting around it. i dont want to see you complaining about gas prices on this forum because you and your liberal chronies are the problem. if we took the smart conservative path in 1994 we'd be pumping oil by now. how bout those nuclear plants on long island that we scrapped because a few little fishies might die.. awwwwww cry my a river you sissy loser "

" I don't hold Wolf up as the pinnacle of all that a person should aspire to be, but she DOES give examples of all the points she makes in her book. She goes over-the-top in places with her anti-Nazi thing (we've discussed the misuse of invocation of the NS specter here before), but her points in this book are nonetheless valid.

If you've never had friends or family who were involved in fringe politics, you have no idea what goes on with the government and our own citizens, but sit home thinking everything is hunky-dorey and we all just paranoid.

As the saying goes -- just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't following you.

Been there, seen that, much more up close and personal than I'd ever like to see again. I have friends serving prison terms in foreign lands for things that are considered freedoms in this country.

I've read "Promiscuities" as well -- I don't remember her saying anywhere that girls at the age of 14 are old enough to decide to engage in sex, but rather -- they do. It's a reality for many, many young people.

"Promiscuities" is a weak book; Elizabeth Wurtzel's "B*tch: In Praise of Difficult Women" is much better -- written at break-neck speed under the influence of a lot of drugs (she checked herself into rehab immediately after finishing the book), by a gorgeous, brilliant, messed-up young woman, in her first few chapters she describes so utterly realistically the double-bind dilemma faced by young women growing up in our culture and what happens to those who refuse to be bowed down by that bind -- it almost always meaning pulling the walls down on yourself, but you had the courage to refuse the lose-lose constraints put on young women in our culture. She fizzles towards the end of the book, but those first chapters are a powerful read. "

" I totally agree with you CVN! "

" Naomi Wolf is nothing but a liberal hack of a writer.
1 Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy (Al Queda, Hezbolla aren't enemies? They don't kill Americans, Israelis, Muslims, etc...?)
2 Create a gulag (What Gulag? We have Gitmo for people captured on the battlefield)
3 Develop a thug caste (?)
4 Set up an internal surveillance system (You mean FISA? God forbid we actaully go after people trying to do us harm)
5 Harass citizens’ groups (Examples?)
6 Engage in arbitrary detention and release (Examples?)
7 Target key individuals (Yes, we target the enemy and either try to capture them or make them room temp.)
8 Control the press (Examples?)
9 Equate dissent with treason (When dissent includes calling for "Death to America", there may be a problem)
10 Suspend the rule of law (Examples?)

What a load of bunk from yet another self-loathing American liberal.

Funny that people like Wolf think young girls are mature enough at 12-13 to decide to engage in sex and to get an abortion. Young boys are mature enough at 12-13 to decide to engage in sex.

But when they are 17 or 18, they are too young, easily manipulated and don't full understand what they are doing when they enlist in the military.

There is no hypocrisy like liberal hypocrisy.



"

" Brew1234, your an moronic idiot, you should take your third grade mentality and stand in front of the neighbor house and try to convince the preschoolers that you know 1 % of what your talking about. I have yet to read one of your comments that has a touch of intellengece in them, and also they make no sence what ever. Your not a Karl, FamersGal or anybody else that post intelligent comments. Stick to reading the comments if you can and discontinue writing them, your grammer school education shows. "

" Highest Gas:
1. Sierra Leone: $18.42 per gallon
2. Aruba: $12.03 per gallon
3. Bosnia-Herzegovina: $10.86 per gallon
4. Eritrea: $9.58 per gallon
5. Norway: $8.73 per gallon
6. United Kingdom: $8.38 per gallon
7. Netherlands: $8.37 per gallon
8. Monaco: $8.31 per gallon
9. Iceland: $8.28 per gallon
10.Belgium: $8.22 per gallon

Cheapest Gas:
Venezuela: 12 cents "

" You didn't join the armed forces because you have a big mouth and no guts to back up your big trap. Why is it so crazy to want a background check before some fool like you can buy a weapon? Or are you concerned that you are mentally incapable of passing a background check? Can you find anyone other than liberals to blame for all the ills of the world? Like deluded idiot neo con right wingers with an IQ smaller than their hat size? "

" oh sorry i forgot my buddy chris whos in the marines. "

" good one aj did you come up with that line yourself. ive seen 100 bumper stickers that say "if you support the war, join the military." the truth is i think about it every day. my great uncle died in WWII, my god father served in vietnam, my grandfather served in korea. my cousin is in iraq, my friend is going to iraq. my other friend just came back from afghanistan and yup my other friend is an army ranger. i believe i can make statements without serving in the military. or i guess my family and friends havent given enough to this country so i have to serve, right? so why havent you sold your home so you can give all that money to moveon.org so they can push for a govermental change? whats up with that? "

" I'm surprised with all that testosterone that you're not over in Iraq fighting. What's up with that? "

" yeah aj look at whats going on in iraq. insurgency is bogging our troops down like crazy. do they have tanks and uav's and subs, and jets, NO. we dont have a tank for every street in america. you know what i mean your just trying to twist things around. an ak is no match for a tank duh. but look at what hundreds of thousands of good guns can do. what your implying is foolish - that guns are useless because our military has better equipment.... i think some ar15's and some ak's are gonna deter any govermental takeover a little better than your politicians idea of having a 5 round bolt action. "

" How about double synchronicity FG? What are the odds?

Just found my copy buried underneath a pile of business papers.

I just opened to a random page (46) and ran across this sentence: "Your innocence does not protect you in a dictatorship".

How true, and something people should NEVER forget. It doesn't matter WHO the dictator happens to be "

" Right FG, those are only two we know of. How many people (citizens) have been "disappeared" because of all of this. Under current martial law, the government assumes every right to do just that. And since the media seems to be complicit, unless a victim of this madness is someone is extremely high profile, how would the rest of us know, except for after the fact?

These are indeed dangerous times we live in, and it is NOT because of muslims. "

" theking, so I guess we should all have tanks in our driveways? What makes you think your gun is going to be any match for what the military or the Blackwater thugs can dish out? Your is a foolish argument.

What we need, if it is not too late, is control of our government and the military. And that WON'T happen until we reign in the corporate fascists first. "

" dont worry karla i got your back "

" Synchronicity -- in the midst of my busy day, one of the people in my department stuck her head in my office and handed me Wolf's book -- Were you interested in this? She says, It's just too depressing....

In the chapter on titled Arbitrarily Detain and Release Citizens, it gives the story of Mahar Arar, a Canadian citizen who was changing planes at Kennedy airport here in the US when he was detained then "rendered" to Syria, where he was imprisoned and tortured for over a year -- only to later have it come out that he was completely innocent of any ties to any terrorist organizations or activities.

He now has post traumatic stress and other health problems for the rest of his life, thanks to not being given due process when he was an innocent person.

Try also Chaplain James Yee, also arrested on "suspicion of espionage and possible treason" -- taken away, locked up, allowed no contact with family or lawyer, nor even television, where he was subjected to solitary, blindfolding, being kept in manicles, etc. He was lambasted in the media as a terrorist helper and was threatened with execution. This is a New Jersey-born American citizen who converted from Lutheran to Islam but committed no crimes and all charges were later dropped, though there was some micky mouse stuff about a falsified adulterous affair and other nonsense. In the end, he was declared innocent, but was not allowed to ever speak of his ordeal in any way that would make the US Military look bad. (He was held in a Naval brig).

Those are just two of whom we know.

This is why we cannot go torturing people who have not had a fair and proper trial and been found GUILTY of terrorist acts -- because if you haven't been tried in this country, you are INNOCENT (until PROVEN guilty) and should not be subjected to torture under any circumstances.

Debating whether it's "OK" to torture people who have been convicted of such crimes is another matter. The issue here is that it is absolutely wrong and indefensible to detain, torture and deny basic rights to people who have NOT BEEN FOUND GUILTY of a crime. "

" hey Queenie, OK THEN, CAN YOU GET ME A REAL LIVE WORKING ABRAMS TANK AT COST?!?! i HATE SLOW DRIVERS AND WAITING AT THOSE DAMNED LIGHTS! lol! "

" Ok Karl with a K and no D, I apologize for hurting your feelings by speaking in liew of your career. After reading some of my posts, I don't see where it does any harm to you. I am not using last names that would link you to anyone. I try to speak to you and, again, I apologize that I actually know these people. Maybe not as I would drop in and have coffee with them, but have on occasion been in attendance of some events in the past. I did meet you once. I wouldn't consider really knowing you, but from your postings, I have generated a really good idea of who you are. Like I said a long time ago, I don't come here to start trouble. Maybe I won't take you seriously. "

" AJ-- Quick hit-n-run (busy day today): I was looking for specific examples of American citizens, supposedly suspected of terrorism, who were detained and denied the most basic rights guaranteed to our citizens, who later turned out to be innocent, ala Guantanamo for Americans. I know Wolf cites at least 2 such cases in her book.

Must dash.... "

" AJ THATS WHY YOU NEED GUNS. GUNS ON PAR WITH THOSE OWNED BY THE MILITARY. BUT LIBERALS SEEM TO THINK WE WILL NEVER NEED THEM. YOU ALL THINK THE REPUBLICANS AND BUSH ARE TAKING OVER BUT WHICH POLITICAL PARTY WANTS THE CRAZILY STRICT GUNS LAWS. OH AND #10 COST THE LIVES OF DOZENS OF NAVY SEALS BECAUSE OF THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT. PEOPLE DIE IN WAR, THATS WHY ITS WAR. US SERVICE MEN ARE SHOULD NOT BE HESITANT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES OR THEIR COMRADES BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED THEY WILL BE LOCKED UP FOR LIFE FOR ACCIDENTALLY KILLING SOMEONE THEY THOUHT WAS A THREAT. POLITICIANS WANT TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK GOOD AND MAKE EXAMPLES OF THESE SERVICEMEN. "

" Quiz time. Does anyone know who said this?

“Next the statesmen will invent cheap
lies, putting the blame upon the nation
that is attacked, and every man will
be glad of those conscience-soothing
tactics, and will diligently study them,
and refuse to examine any refutations
of them; and thus he will by and by
convince himself that the war is just,
and will thank God for the better
sleep he enjoys after this process of
grotesque self-deception”

"

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#1 No Habeas Corpus for “Any Person”
#2 Bush Moves Toward Martial Law
#3 AFRICOM: US Military Control of Africa’s Resources
#4 Frenzy of Increasingly Destructive Trade Agreements
#5 Human Traffic Builds US Embassy in Iraq
#6 Operation FALCON Raids
#7 Behind Blackwater Inc.
#8 KIA: The US Neoliberal Invasion of India
#9 Privatization of America’s Infrastructure
#10 Vulture Funds Threaten Poor Nations’ Debt Relief
#11 The Scam of “Reconstruction” in Afghanistan
#12 Another Massacre in Haiti by UN Troops
#13 Immigrant Roundups to Gain Cheap Labor for US
Corporate Giants
#14 Impunity for US War Criminals
#15 Toxic Exposure Can Be Transmitted to Future
Generations on a “Second Genetic Code”
#16 No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11
#17 Drinking Water Contaminated by Military and
Corporations
#18 Mexico’s Stolen Election
#19 People’s Movement Challenges Neoliberal Agenda
#20 Terror Act Against Animal Activists
#21 US Seeks WTO Immunity for Illegal Farm Payments
#22 North Invades Mexico
#23 Feinstein’s Conflict of Interest in Iraq
#24 Media Misquotes Threat From Iran’s President
#25 Who Will Profit from Native Energy?

The book, CENSORED 2008, is available on-line at:
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" FG, I forgot exactly what it was you were asking about Wolf's book "The End of America", and I still haven't located it yet. But here is her common list of things you'll find in a runup to a tyrannical state, if that is what you were looking for.

Here are the ten steps which, according to Ms. Wolf, lead to the overthrow of democracy and the rise of tyranny:

1 Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2 Create a gulag
3 Develop a thug caste
4 Set up an internal surveillance system
5 Harass citizens’ groups
6 Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7 Target key individuals
8 Control the press
9 Equate dissent with treason
10 Suspend the rule of law

(sound familiar?) "

" HEY COACH--where the hell you been?
Geez, this is like a Gilligan's Island reunion show or something this week! LOL! "

" quiveringoveranalyticalposer with a kew and a pee, I don't really care one way or another for violence; in fact, I abhor it, and agree wholeheartedly that it is the refuge of the weak and the senseless. YOU take me far too seriously--in fact, far more seriously than I take myself.
Yet you continue to agitate me and poke at me, when I don't know you from Adam, yet you have the advantage of knowing who I am. THAT fact alone tells me that you're a bit of a slimebag hiding behind your anonymity and your really annoying name dropping and posing like you "know the band, man".
Unless you haven't figured this out, I live a VERY separate and distinct life from my career, and you seem to want to negate that fact and blur the borders which I have asked you to respect. What the hell is so hard about that? Where's YOUR maturity and YOUR respect? "

" When you hear the key words "I am not a racist" the person speaking IS a racist.
And nature, I did not use fools toward all citizens of Auburn. I used fools in reference to the whiners that complain of high taxes and then complain again whenever a cut is made to save tax dollars. If you are one of these people then you are a fool. Please read these posts 2 or 3 times so you can comprehend what is actually being said. "

" Well I see nothing has changed . All seems the same.Hope everyone has been in good health and spirit. I see you are still making friends Karl.LOL "

" Well stated, QT "

" I meant YEARS!!! 8 years and no tears! "

" I didn't know Obama was your career, Karl with a K. I just posted something that was a little disturbing to me. I do not come here to pick on you, but I will not stand for you personally threatening me. Maybe, since you are in the book, I will call. I don't mind arguments and I can agree that we disagree, but I will not allow you to post threats about me. If you really want to fight, that tells me that your sense of reasoning is exhausted. You have sooo much anger penned up in you that your last defense is violence, or should I say Electro-Violence. If perhaps, I did call you, would you carry on a conversation in a calm tone, or would you be yelling and screaming? You don't seem to upset me in a way that would cause me to lose my temper. I am very calm and relaxed. I may be a "failed musician" to you, I am not signed to a label. I may not want to go through the crap that comes with it. My band plays small clubs. We entertain and hold the crowd providing music for them. It is not what my dream would be, but I am happy doing it. Failed musician, not to me. Maybe, yet maybe our band would get a recording contract, then maybe not. I am happy to have the opportunity to play and become the family we are for the last 8 tears. "

" Karl,
Not everyone knows who you are (me being one of them) so don't be so paranoid. "

" DD I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF "

" Just making my point also Karl - no offense intended but wanted to put a liberals approach on the whole Obama icon-ism. The man will not be worthy of my vote in Nov. Its truly amazing how vehimately people are either for Hill or Obama. Personally this election doesnt even muster enough excitement for me to hiccup and it will soon be yesterdays news. Lately u broach your opinions in a harsh manner hence the "my way or the highway" line. The meeting at Wegmans I think u could attest to it being a bit over the top? There seems to be no middle ground for opinions just blatant accusations. Zeal also means excessive fervor. Just an inocent bystander here!!

FG - our prior dog got into an underground bees nest at the lake - not Owasco - during the day and we called the local vet in the area which was actually quite far for such an emergency. They told us in the meantime prior to transport to administer Benydryl !! There are many human OTC remedies that an animal can be given in a pinch. Check with your vet. "

" Read a REAL newspaper for a change.

http://www.rockcreekfreepress.com/ "

" nature lover, it's funny how when I make a point, stick to it and defend it with zeal, people like you say I have a "my way or the highway" mentality.
YES. I DO!
For ME! If you don't agree, tell me off--I'm man enough to take it!
When I stand behind something, I say it, loud and proud.
When I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
And I'm not afraid of either looking arrogant, OR even looking like a fool. Those kind of things just aren't really that important to me. I'm not obsessed with "Pride", or having "respect" like some people are so obsessed with.
Big deal if you think I'm overbearing. You;re entitled to your opinion. I WILL tell you if I don't agree!
As far as QTwithakew, I've asked him several times to stop bringing up career, and either he doesn't have the brains or the discretion for my relative anonymity on this site that allows me to blow off steam to all of you who know I'm a self-proclaimed big mouth anyway; if I wasn't, I'd be one of those guys who "goes postal", guaranteed! This is therapeutic for me!....:0.......:) "

" Chris, thank you for the sincere compliment, but really--I don't know EVERYTHING!
(just more than you!)
I'm blushing though..... "

" Wow, that was funny CVN. Almost as funny as your oft repeated kickstand joke.

I'll leave you with something by Rev Wright you probably never heard...

“The prophetic theology of the black church has always seen and still sees all of God’s children as sisters and brothers, equals who need reconciliation, who need to be reconciled as equals. . . Reconciliation means we embrace our individual rich histories, all of them. We retain who we are, as persons of different cultures, while acknowledging that those of other cultures are not superior or inferior to us; they are just different from us. We root out any teaching of superiority, inferiority, hatred or prejudice. And we recognize for the first time in modern history, in the West, that the other who stands before us with a different color of skin, a different texture of hair, different music, different preaching styles and different dance moves; that other is one of God’s children just as we are, no better, no worse, prone to error and in need of forgiveness just as we are. Only then will liberation, transformation and reconciliation become realities and cease being ever elusive ideals.” "

" In the words of a great black hero--Can't we all just get along? If you understand my sarcasm, then you will understand the power of the race card. Rodney King wasn't beaten because he was black, he was beaten because he was all hopped up on illeagal drugs, and driving illegally in a dangerous manner--THEN to top it all off, he just wouldn't lay down, and cooperate. It didn't matter, because the NAACP, Jackson, and Sharpton were involved. The race card-----The reason why the race card is so powerful is because the Liberals have conditioned the American public to be P.C. I took my son to visit colleges a few weeks back, and to my suprise, they have a trans gender, gay lesbian DORM. What the heck? The university was pressured to give them a dorm because the blacks had their dorm, and the hispanics had theirs, etc. Everyone is so scared to offend anyone else. It is a particular problem with the African Americans because Sharpton and Jackson know that they can turn the most innocent comment or situation and turn it around to be the worst. Racism is a sensetive topic, even for me. I try to be sensetive without acting like I am patronizing. I think that patronizing an African American is disrecpectful too. There is not ONE African American alive today that was enslaved. I owe no one anything for the slavery issue. I owe the community nothing for how the African Americans were treated in the south for years, because I wasn't there. What I do owe the African Americans is respect in general. Just like anyone else regardless of color. So, everyone needs to quit acting like everyone owes them something, and take care of themselves. "

" When we had a pet emergency, we were told Cornell or Baldwinsville -- either too far to be any help in a true emergency. But we phoned Baldwinsville and got good advice (for a cat who'd been swarmed by yellowjackets and stung badly). Luckily for us, she didn't have an allergic reaction and some ice and gentle handling for a couple days and she was good as new. Had she had an allergic reaction, she was toast, as it was too far to have saved her in time. "

" I am a white liberal and I think Barack reeks...if he gets the nod...ol' McCain is a shoe in.... "

" karl i understand where your comming from. the blacks just dont seem to distance themselves from rev wright and sharpton and jackson. just like mainstream muslims dont seem to speak out enough about the radicalization of their religion. i have many black friends who are great people. but there is a difference between a black person and a you know what. obama is another story. i just dont understand how he can be in that church for 20 years, have this guy marry him and his wife, baptize their child, and say he is like family and never see the racist side of him. plus stick up for him when the controversy started. then he distances himself when he realizes it may cost him in the political sector. i think many blacks hate whites and blame ME for the past and it is very irritating. none of them want to stand up and say its over with lets move on. "

" I always thought the local vets should rotate Sunday office hours. How many vets are in Auburn? 4 or 5? Each could take a Sunday on a rotating basis and offer office hrs from 9-1 or something and emergency service. "

" I also agree that there is a need for an animal ER in this county. Last November, our dog became very ill over the weekend, and there was no local Vet on call, so it was off to Syracuse. We were not that impressed with the care she got, and it was very expensive.

Three days later, we followed up with our own vet, and he told to discard the medication they had given us, and. prescribed something else. She immediately began to improve, and was good as new in ten days.

I'm surprised that there isn't a place here. there certaily is a need for it. "

" Remember kids, only people of color and white liberals are allowed to have a frank conversation about race...the rest of us are "racists & bigots", just ask the all-knowing Karl and his partner AJ.
(please note the sarcasm) The race card gives the user the ability to win any argument remotely pertaining to ethnicity or skin color by accusing the opponent of being racist.
BTW, I don't suffer from any form of "white guilt". Besides, in my opinion, its culture not color. "

" Brew, you know maybe I/we could take u seriously if you stop referring in plural the word "fools" in general to all of Auburn. I am no fool, nor have I ever been.
And honestly Karl, QT has a point - u r becoming a tad overbearing - my way or the highway type of mentality. QT really hasnt made any ripple in your life at all, has he?
Barack isnt all that great. period.

And seriously folks, that Syracuse ER hospital is a fantastic place and like any family member (human or animal), when u have a life or death emergency, its going to cost! We loved them so much we asked if they could be our regular vet but alas they only handle emergencies. Regardless if "small town" vets WANT to handle it or not, regardless of their personal reasonings why, when and it will happen again, we will immediately call Syr to notify of our arrival. "

" OK "

" quiveringnamedropppingwannabe with a kew, so you're going to be in Auburn, huh?
Wel, look me up--I'm in the book, and we'll talk about your name dropping, your lack of discretion and respect, and your failed music career, OK? OK! "

" theking wrote: "...i am just sick of black people pulling out their NAACP cards every time they have a problem and blame it on the whites"
Queenie, do you even GET how incredibly racist this statement is?
Can you not see how thick-skulled your generalization here is? If that's not racist, I don't know what is.
You're willing to lump in all Blacks just becasue of loud-mouth talking heads like Al Sharpton and Jesse JAckson or Rev Wright.
When has Barack Obama ever pulled out his NAACP card and waved it at WHite America?
Are you afraid that if Barck gets elected, he'll give Blacks free gasoline, unlimited latte's and no-interest credit cards or something? LOL!!?
YOu're willing to condemn an entire demographic based upon the color of their skin. Sorry to break it to ya Queenie, but THAT'S "Racism". "

" Emergency service for pets is a risky business and is not always available in small towns. Many pet owners rush their pet in for emergency service but when that pet dies they are reluctant to pay. It is also hard to get advance payment when an animal is dying and the owner forgot to bring cash or credit cards in his rush to save his pet. It is a business that small town vets just don't want to take on. "

" You fools whine about taxes and cry about every expenditure made by the city, but when they save some money, you call it chump change. When they sell that property and you figure in the fact that it will become a taxable property and the care of that property will no longer be an expense for years it is not chump change. Your city did not increase taxes and few communities can say that with the increased costs of fuel and health care. So stop complaining and contribute to the cause of improving the city and cutting waste and become part of the solution not a helpless whiner. "

" When we had an emergency with our dog at 3am we were shocked also that when u called your vet they ref'd u to the Syr animal ER. But I assure you, it really isnt that long of a drive and they are simply fantastic there. Our previous experiences when Auburn DID have a local vet on call was an absolute nitemare. That Syr animal ER was started and may still be overseen by a vet with close ties to Cornell vet hospital, They are kind, professional and very up to the minute of procedures and treatments. "

" I agree on a ER VET at here night. We had to drive to Syracuse when our dog was hurt, the time involved, finding the place, and the cost was significant. This is a untapped business here in Auburn and it would be a Goldmine.
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