Two Cents

Friday, May 2, 2008 3:22 PM EDT

Why do the citizens of Auburn pay county taxes -- what does the county do for Auburn, buy our buildings and make them tax exempt? The county ought to be paying Auburn for all it does for the county.



Trivia question for The Citizen's readers: Why are the five male candidates exactly like Hillary when it comes to air travel? Answer: They all carry so much baggage they need separate planes -- one for them and one for their luggage.

Going on the past 20 years, all Citizen readers have agreed with Citizen editors that Murray Lynch is by far the best writer, most observant and clever. But in Murray's case, we must remember that old cowboy axiom, "There's never been a horse that couldn't be rode and there's never been a rider that couldn't be throwed."

In my opinion, after watching the Bill O'Reilly show, he is a more liberal fruitcake than I have ever seen.

The dumbest thing I ever heard is people saying that Rev. Wright doesn't speak for all the black people when he makes all those racist comments.




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quiveringthigh wrote on May 5, 2008 11:34 AM:

" karl wrote on May 3, 2008 10:54 PM:
" quiveringthigh with a q, stick your quivering google-happy finger up your quivering hoohah, please. I'm not intersted in hearing your Conservative Bill O'Reilly-inspired crappola.
It's sad when frustrated, jealous wannabe's fixate on the people they want to be and try to bring them down to their level of insignificance, but hey., I'm used to that, quiveringsphincter with a q. Stay there in California, with your wacky tabacky and your long-distance sniping; otherwise I might run into upu in like, Wegman's or something and then we'd both be on the front page.... "


Karl with a K, I guess I touched a nerve with you! What do you intend on doing to me at Wegmans???? Sounds like a violent act on your part. I do plan on going to Auburn for a visit this year. When, I don't know, but if you want I can go to Wegmans and we can talk about the comment you made. Why do you get so defensive when someone opposes your opinion of your new found figurehead? Your response to me has no factual base to it; other than, you want to meet me in person. Are you some sort of tough guy?? I am led to believe that your frustrations are clouding your "free thinking" mind. You resort to name calling and threats because you cannot control your anger. It's like how a little boy throws a fit when he doesn't get his way. Are you really like that?? Maybe you need a little Anger Management class. Other than the fact I work very hard for the money I make and do struggle to make ends meet, I am very happy with my life. I sleep very peaceful and enjoy EVERY sunrise and sunset. Never taken for granted. I am very respected in my community. Maybe you should come out here and meet me at Stater Brothers. You are out of line Karl with a K. And I just laugh knowing you play in a band that inspired me 24yrs ago to pick up the bass guitar. I still think Ross is the best! I wish he was still in the band. "

cm wrote on May 5, 2008 8:48 AM:

" WOW I just noticed it was 37 degrees there! Turning the heat on in MAY-ouch!
I thought the groundhog called for spring? "

cm wrote on May 5, 2008 8:16 AM:

" My oldest son had a cell phone long before I did! After my car broke down, walking with a 2yr old, no stroller, and diaper bag--I bought one!
My job is seasonal so I live on it for 4 months, but after that I maybe use 100 minutes a month.
The older text me ALOT-I answer with yes, no, k, WHen they want more info I call them--I hate to text a whole sentence! How they do it and SO fast is beyond me! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on May 5, 2008 4:45 AM:

" My kids have no cell phone, because I don't have one either. Maybe some day.

They are lazy and not as respectful as I'd like, but (knock on wood), I've had no trouble with drinking, driving too fast, chasing girls, drugs, fights or any of the rest of it.

They are computer couch potatoes, it's true. But I can remember getting up in the middle of the night in summer to see why #1 son was up on the computer so late, and he was debating the war with adults on the New York Times forum. That one also finished writing his first novel at 14. He corresponds with a young woman out in Chicago -- he's writing the book and she's illustrating it. The younger one is a gamer and only sometimes gaming online; mostly he's just using a CD. So, after checking many times, I'm not too worried.

Guess I got lucky in some ways.

Glad to hear your wife is doing well, jlmsr "

karl wrote on May 5, 2008 1:01 AM:

" Hey Jerry, sorry to hear that such bummer circumstances brought you back to Auburn! I hope all goes well for the missus here!
Have a safe trip back, and chime in to stir the pot once in a while!....:) "

cm wrote on May 4, 2008 10:41 PM:

" Will this be in most kids in 10 yrs?

VeriChip ($200 plus $9.95 a month), an under-the-skin, tamper-proof method of identifying one person against another, could help prevent kidnappings like the one of Utah teen Elizabeth Smart. Digital Angel ($399 plus $29.95 a month) is a wearable GPS device that indicates when a person has moved beyond certain preset boundaries. The alerts may be sent to cell phones or computers. "

cm wrote on May 4, 2008 10:25 PM:

" so sorry JL, I hope she's going to be fine! Tell her I pray she has a speedy recovery!
While you're there can you eat some salt-potatoes for me! lol.... "

cm wrote on May 4, 2008 10:22 PM:

" And Karl its not just cell phones, COMPUTERs have to be totally controlled!
Mine stays in an open room, the kids were never allowed to have one in their bedrooms.
I have parental controls set for the 9yr old. YET, last summer she heard a word about man parts. While I was outside, she googled it. The next day, I open an email report on "sites my child has visited" WAS dad and I ever so shocked! We called her to the computer, had her read my email, then clicked onto her visited sites!
She learned the true meaning of "parental controls" that day! We also had a long talk about if she wants to know something no matter what it is come and ask, and if she feels embarrassed with us, she can also talk to her much older siblings!
But NOT all kids have what she has-several open lines of communication. Along with several EXTRA eyes watching her!
"

cm wrote on May 4, 2008 9:58 PM:

" I hear ya karl, kids arguements to get cell phone are totally laughable!
I used to tell my older kids-I have allready done it--I know all the tricks-I may not always catch them instantly BUT I would catch them.
Todays kids are not so bright. They live thinking Us parents are as stupid as can be. That holds true for parents who dont care or simply dont want to be bothered. But I think involved parents are smart enough to "check-up". Congrats to your friend for being the involved parent.

Nature, yes, there are times to be a tad liberal too, depending on the issue.
But most of the time I had to be stern because of society today.

Many times I snuck out my bedroom window and returned before mom woke up. On friday nights meet an old whino we met walking the tracks at 3 am,at Washington St.,he'd purchase our booze for the weekend. Such good times! lol

BUT NOW --kids are raped, shot, killed!
Sickos put drugs in your alcohol. For sure if you can out your window some pervert/robber can get in!
Todays world is tooo VIOLENT.
"

jlmorgansr wrote on May 4, 2008 9:03 PM:

" Hi CM and Karl!

I am back in Auburn because my wife had open heart surgery on Friday. I bought a condo in Ocala and my wife tried to get cleared by her heart doctor, he ran a battery of tests and told her if she left, she would die, so I flew home to be with her during the surgery. I am leaving again a few weeks then she will follow a few weeks after me. She is doing GREAT!

I couldn't resist throwing my 2 cents into the fray, knowing that it would raise a few eye brows,,,,lol.

It really upsets me that this school district is proceeding forward with the proposals. Especially when the economy is on the brink of collapsing.

I was shocked with the city's budget proposal and I told Quill and the council I would pubicly apologize to him if that budget was adopted.

If the school district followed suit I would do the same to Pabis and the board, however, I truly don't think that will be necessary,,,lol they are idiots and this budget confirms it.


VOTE NO PEOPLE! "

vic wrote on May 4, 2008 8:50 PM:

" 1) John McCain and Hilary Clinton also do not always wear the flag pin.
2.) If Obama didn't have his hand over his heart during the plegde that would be one thing, but few people have their hand over their heart during the national anthem. Are you calling 95% of the people at a baseball game unpatriotic?

If you had problems with Obamas proposed policies, etc. that would be one thing, but this kind of crap just makes you look stupid. "

beentheredonethat wrote on May 4, 2008 8:19 PM:

" I was raised in Auburn and moved away 40 years ago. I never went back. except to visit family and friends, because of the people and the "Small Town" thinking the people seemed to enjoy. Reading these blogs reinforce my reasons for leaving the city. "

nature lover wrote on May 4, 2008 8:02 PM:

" Karl sounds like u r gonna be one tuff daddy dearest if and when u have kids...wow...didnt u ever have fun (pre cell phone days-lol) hanging with your buds doing stuff ALL teenagers arent supposed to do? I wouldnt trade ANY of those times. And if 'getting caught' smoking pot was the worst of it, well, brace yourself for what else can come along...guess I am too liberal...

oh and I agree with MANY - Dont care for or have much faith in Barack. There is just something about that man that doesnt cut it with us and most of our friends/family. This November is gonna be slim pickin's again, I am afraid. And does it really matter if we vote because of this electorial college/delegate crap? It baffles me to death how we start as a nation with Jeffersons and Franklins and end up with corporate (term for lady of the nites - dont want t/b censored - ty) like Reagan and Bush plural. Sorry but all 3 that are running are in that pie. There is no great American left that would do that job because 1st requirements are to be self serving - the legacy is thought out b4 the job starts. "

theking wrote on May 4, 2008 4:33 PM:

" karl how is obama the only qualified candidate? since when was the least experience the most qualified? im not a racist at all. i am just sick of black people pulling out their NAACP cards every time they have a problem and blame it on the whites. thats racism. dont you think whites would be called racists if we had a group such as the NAACP. dont you think they would call whites racists if they didnt get a job because they had to hire an unqualified white person because there werent a large numeber at that company? should i be held responsible for slavery 100 years ago. should my taxes be higher because i have to pay the indians share because of something i had no part of hundreds of years ago? PS OBAMA IS THE LEAST QUALIFIED. OLD = EXPERIENCED AND WISE. I BET YOU CHANT "YES WE CAN" ALONG WITH OBAMA ON THE TV. WHAT A JOKE "

karl wrote on May 4, 2008 1:28 PM:

" Fine, Queenie, don't vote for Rev. Wright then; he's not o the ballot anyway, fool!
And by the way, I AM PROUD to be voting for Obama. I could care less if Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden and Dick Cheney himself were voting for him--he's the only qualified candidate in this race.
McCain is too old, a frightening hothead,, has a "macho" complex, is a flip-flopper and an a$$-kissing panderer. Plus, he's got that nutty Christian preacher endorsing him---"OOOOH!!" (Actually that bothers me not--I'm more intelligent than ot vote/not vote for a candidate based upon what idiot likes them!)
Listen--why don't you just save me the trouble of writing it and admit that it's your own xenophobia and latent racism that makes you purport all of these flimsy, ridiculous, transparent excuses for disparaging his candidacy?
Just admit it, queenie--YOU ARE THE RACIST IN THE ROOM.
PS -- ALL CHURCHES PREACH HATE!!! ALL OF THEM!!!!! "

theking wrote on May 4, 2008 12:00 PM:

" karl i hope your proud to vote for the same presidential candidate that bin laden himself would vote for. who would vote for someone with 3 or 4 years experience to hold the most powerful position in the world. obama is fake. hes all talk. hes unamerican and he is part of a church that preaches hate and is racist. man rev. wright really talks about how the blaks are living in poverty while he drives 2 mercedes and is building a 10 million dollar house. what a crook. if i saw him in public i would drop him like a fly. obamas a loser. "

karl wrote on May 4, 2008 11:29 AM:

" cm, my friend caught her 14 year old daughter coordinating stories with her girlfriend on her cell phone, saying "OK I'm going to tell Mom that we're going here, and you tell your mom that we're going there, and then we'll go to X"
She and the other mom wound up following them one night and caught them smoking pot in someone's back yard.
YOu know what? A cell phone "to check on the kids" is an absolute canard--it's only as good as the trust and relationship already between the two parties! If you don't trust your kid already, and they're not worthy of it, no cell phone is going to give you any kind of insurance. It's an illusion. More often than not, you're just providing a method for your irresponsible teen to craftily finagle their way around your rules and mandates. "

karl wrote on May 4, 2008 11:23 AM:

" HEY JMORGANSR! It's been a bit quiet around here without you!
How's the move treating you? Miss Auburn much? "

cm wrote on May 4, 2008 11:16 AM:

" where ya been JL? The school board is trying their best, hmmm will they win?
"

cm wrote on May 4, 2008 11:14 AM:

" have you read the editorial about bill collector calls and blaming Bush?

WE are products of our environment. We are who we are due to people in our lives from early childhood. We are faced with daily choices, as adults WE get to choose our wants & needs.

My dad grew up in the depression years: 1. always put money under your mattress (banks could collapse)
2. always SAVE money!!
(no vacations, one bath a week/high water bills, extra blankets in the winter/save heating bill costs, McD's was out(generic food only,lots of chicken,beef allowed for meatballs on sundays),WALK to school 8 blocks away in blow zero/blinding snow weather to save GAS, 89.00 for a class ring are YOU NUTS!)
THERE may have been no less than 40grand under the mattress but WE were POOR!

MOM:
If you have IT spend IT, you can't take it with you when you die!
(to the mattresses!)

ME:
sliding scale leans closer to mom, with minor traits of dad!
1. I SAVE for vacations-a must to show kids other parts of the country!
2. waste gas? my kids WALK nowhere! (molesters could be anywhere)
3. Beef is in most meals, chicken is occasional. Eating out aleast 2ce a week.
4.scum child get into that shower(daily)
5. Banking: checks mailed on WED/direct deposit on FRI-hoping nothing goes wrong! lol
6. Need a toaster? no waiting for S&H green stamp saving here, off to Walmart right NOW!
7.$700.00 for a class ring ARE YOU NUTS!

Overall I save for what I feel is needed, and I spend for what I feel is needed.
BUT my next 20 yrs will need to push the scale towards DAD, I can never be as drastic as he was but I need to better PREPARE myself for MY lasting years.
No! I can't take it with me when I die BUT I might want to have some IF I LIVE!
"

jlmorgansr wrote on May 4, 2008 10:53 AM:

" LOL I see some things haven't changed. It's great to be able to agree on disagreeing. Long live FOX new and Bill O. Fair and balanced, and I loved the interview with Billery. lol "

karl wrote on May 3, 2008 10:54 PM:

" quiveringthigh with a q, stick your quivering google-happy finger up your quivering hoohah, please. I'm not intersted in hearing your Conservative Bill O'Reilly-inspired crappola.
It's sad when frustrated, jealous wannabe's fixate on the people they want to be and try to bring them down to their level of insignificance, but hey., I'm used to that, quiveringsphincter with a q. Stay there in California, with your wacky tabacky and your long-distance sniping; otherwise I might run into upu in like, Wegman's or something and then we'd both be on the front page.... "

cm wrote on May 3, 2008 9:59 PM:

" Thats the funny thing karl, parents get them cells so they can call them at anytime and know where they are.
BUT that only works when the kid answers the phone!
My older kids didnt get cells until they drove a car ALONE. NOt so funny when they saw "mom" on caller ID -they would ignore it if they were somewhere they didnt want me to know about!
Dumb on their part because that is the first clue! lol "

quiveringthigh wrote on May 3, 2008 9:11 PM:

" Karl with a K, I did some Barrack Hussein Obama research today. Some things I saw were him with a Cuban flag with Che Guevara in it. It hangs in his office. If you do not know who Che Guevara is, I suggest you do so. Also, I saw where he has refused to wear a pin with our countries flag. He was videotaped not honoring our National Anthem. Other stuff about his wife "now feeling like an American", His Mentor that supports Marxism and the Black Panthers. Mentioning the name Cone.
He even went as far to mention that his grandmother is a typical white person.
And you wish to vote for this moron? Karl with a K, I am afraid you are very blind and like the jargon he says. Maybe you should live in Cuba or Haiti. I am sure you would appreciate the way they live. In fact, move there. You are no good to us here. "

karl wrote on May 3, 2008 3:27 PM:

" cm, there's a much better reason to keep a cell phone out of a 6-year old's hands--or a 12 year old's for Chriss' sake--the still undetermined effect of cell phone radiation which some say can increase brain tumors.
I applaud ou for holding the line on this issue. There's no way in hell I would let my kid have a cell phone before the age of 16--and even then only with pre-paid minutes for emergencies. I've seen and heard too many stories of how they are used to subvert parent's supervision, and coordinate stories of where they were when they were supposed to be somewhere else! "

cm wrote on May 3, 2008 2:55 PM:

" The commercials would be OK if they were for a kid products, But to sell you a car-its more like the adults are teaching their kids to "show up" other kids because they are on TV.

But worse, I dislike it when parents pierce their 4yr old boys ears or allow a 10yr old to get a tattoo!
Beauty pageants are OK if they keep it real--NO make-up. Especially nothing like little miss Jon Bonet Ramsey-makeup/ fake nails/ hair dyed--that is going way to far!

I thought my 9yr old was nuts begging me for a cell phone-because cousins and friends younger (6) have them??!!!! I said when you drive (16)--right now everywhere she goes she is with an adult that has a cell..if she wants to call cousins and friends she can use the house phone! totally ridiculas!

"

karl wrote on May 3, 2008 12:24 PM:

" OK< I've got an issue here--can we just STOP having people using their kids in "cutesy" appearances in their commercials? I mean, I know for a verifiable fact that I'm not the only one who gets annoyed at seeing somebody's kids on television shilling for their parent's business.
I think it's unprofessional and annoying--it's like trotting out your kid's picture to perfect strangers on the street already. OK; so we know you are virile. Wonderful. "

AJ wrote on May 3, 2008 11:18 AM:

" Why have Jeremiah Wright's outbursts gotten so much more attention than objectionable comments by other politicaly connected preachers? In this guest essay, Bill Moyers considers some answers.

For the full story, go to Consortiumnews.com. "

AJ wrote on May 3, 2008 11:10 AM:

" Now you've done it Karl. Your pointing out the weakness in being able to circumvent their filters will now almost certainly be the very reason for P0rn's demise! Well, that is if they really care to protect all of us!

lol.... "

karl wrote on May 3, 2008 10:47 AM:

" Soldiers of P0rn!!!!
To your battle stations!
You MUST vote "NO!" in the new poll "Should Auburn restrict the sale of pornographic materials?"!!!
The Hypocritical Moral Right is sending out massed email alerts as we speak!
Defeat this enemy of freedom!
Vanquish this threat to your yank!
Power to the Naked People!!!
LOL!
(still can't type "P0rn" on this goofy site with a small "o"!) "

karl wrote on May 3, 2008 9:55 AM:

" HA HA--the Reverend Wright comment--anonymous, you have really gone over the line in this one--what an incredibly racist, twit-minded comment! YOu should seriously be ashamed at yourself--but I can't even get angry at it because it's like being mad at a pig when they "oink"! "

justventing wrote on May 3, 2008 8:42 AM:

" I think we as consumers should start charging businesses, Wal-Mart, etc. gas surcharges, or demand 10% off our bill. "

AJ wrote on May 3, 2008 6:33 AM:

" I agree - Wright tells it like it is! "

AJ wrote on May 3, 2008 5:39 AM:

" Anyone calling Bill O'lielly a "liberal" has to be out their friggin mind. Whoever did got it half right though - he definitely is a fruitcake. "

cm wrote on May 2, 2008 10:13 PM:

" did anyone read this link? it gives a better understanding of how the system works?!

http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html "

cm wrote on May 2, 2008 10:10 PM:

" I just read in the paper that if the federal tax is dropped from gas of course programs they say the taxes go to will be cut. Plus the demand will be higher since more people will travel for pleasure do to the lowers prices and OPEC will raise the prices on the facts of higher demand.

the is a NO WIN solution no matter what plan of action is taken! "

quiveringthigh wrote on May 2, 2008 9:14 PM:

" Going on the past 20 years, all Citizen readers have agreed with Citizen editors that Murray Lynch is by far the best writer, most observant and clever. But in Murray's case, we must remember that old cowboy axiom, "There's never been a horse that couldn't be rode and there's never been a rider that couldn't be throwed."


About the Horse comment, I disagree. There are horses that just can't be ridden. "

brew1234 wrote on May 2, 2008 8:57 PM:

" Even Bill O. has to listen to reason once in a while. As for you, you will never learn. "

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