" You all know I have grumbled at times about the deleterious health effects of industrial wind turbines, in particular low-frequency noise pollution and what it does to your body (even if your mind "gets used to it"): the health condition caused by persistent, long-term percussive sound is common in construction workers and ... rock musicians. "

" My ringback tone on my cell is She's a Rainbow by the Rolling Stones. I wish they had Can't You hear me Knockin'. The guitar riff is really cool. "

" I added a few ringtones to my phone.
Voice mail came thru and "Hot Blooded" came on.
My 9yr daughter says "mom was that song on the radio when you were little because I have never heard it before?"
lol.
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" I'm impressed. The postings of the past few days are very good. No bickering; no name calling; no political or religious discussions. It's great to "read" people having "conversations"!
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" Well geez, listen to something thats good than! not that loudest band crap! just kidding...easy...lol "

" ANGMOM3, IF YOU WANT TO WRITE IN CAPS, IT'S PERFECTLY OK WITH ME. "

" Truth be told, I can't STAND loud music! It drives me nuts! "

" My dad played in a rock-n-roll band when I was a baby (QT -- he was the drummer, though he can play any instrument, including the sax he borrowed after school and played that night in the band, without ever having even held one in his hands before. Alas, I did not inherit his musical talent) -- my mom said I could fall asleep right in front of the amps. But somewhere along the line, that all changed. Even as a teen listening to some hard rock, I could never stand it loud. Now I really have no tolerance for loud noise and make my kids do the vacuuming because it's too many decibels (I think I read once that anything over 11 decibels is not comfortable for the normal human ear).

I am just very glad that my two sons both seem to prefer the same music I listened to at their age. They seldom play it loud enough I have to ask them to turn it down, and I never find it offensive. Neither has a drivers license, so no car stereos either.

You'd think it would be more peaceful out in the countryside where if 6 cars pass your house in a row, it must be a parade (or the Wells employees just got out of work). But instead, we don't have the ordinances which ban noise before a certain hour in the morning -- because of agriculture. We have really loud farm machinery moving before it gets light, and, some times of the year, it's still going well after the sun has gone down. On rare days in the middle of summer, after planting and before harvesting, we sometimes have one of those blissfully peaceful, quiet days -- until some yabbo decides the best way to spend a lovely day is to crank up his riding mower and putter around on it all afternoon.

My mom always let the grass grow until it was long and green and healthy (without chemical assistance) -- and one of our twit-headed suburbanite neighbors would call the ordinance officer to complain.

I should become a hermit.... ;-) "

" My 2 sons both had sound systems in their cars WORTH so much more than the car itself. The oldest sons system would shake my whole house, he still invest more $ to make it LOUDER?! Having no kids his car is his baby.
He teaches marching band at 3 high schools and is in a jazz band playing locally. Being musically inclined I think adds to the speaker obsession. LOL.

Second son who lived at home longer, was requested by neighbor to "tone it down" when he arrived home from work at 11pm--which he did from that point on-he has since had 2 kids so he now he invests his money on them and NOT new speakers! Priorities change when babies arrive.

Neighbors close by me announce when they plan to have a huge party and pre-warn of noise--which is fine with me since its not daily.
I think to some it gets annoying when it's DAILY non-stop noise.
Everyone has the right for some peaceful days in their own home-but if you know musicians live next door then expect putting up with noise hopefully NOT daily. RESPECT each others requests.
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" Nature Lover,
I know exactly what you mean about the car stereos. But, that is usually a passing thing. The car is usually moving by your house. My concern is that I am a musician and I do play kind of loud at home. I am usually playing my bass thru a practice amp about 200watts. I am also learning drums. I blast cds about 200 - 400 watts through my monitors. I mostly have it that loud because, since I am not by any means a drummer, I don't want the neighbors to hear how I really sound. And it is easier to hear the drums from the cd. I also practice drums with silencers on them. I am not at all constantly playing. I do when I get time, and for drums it is strictly weekends. I play my bass when I can and sometimes it falls within the evening hours, but I am courteous to my neighbors. No cops ever. I plan on having my band come out for an outside party, where I will go around my neighborhood and inform and invite them. Band practice on the other hand is done in our studio that is sound proofed and almost silent outside the house.
I do understand what you mean about the noise. It just wasn't explained too much in detail, so I quickly defended. Thanks for the enlightenment. "

" THE WEEKEND WEATHER IS WONDERFUL!

I hope you all enjoy it.

Sorry about the caps. I forgot myself for a minute. "

" QT - the kids here have invested more of their 'rents cash into their car stereo systems than the car itself is worth. We call it low volumn and when one of those backwards baseball cap wearing twits goes by, your windows literally rattle and if you are standing just in the right spot you can feel the bass coming up through your ankles. I used to luv loud concerts or my headset too high but that wasnt waking the neighbs up at 3am. While on the highway I will crank my superior Boston acoustic 6 speaker car stereo to unbeleivable levels but that is during the day. Sometimes you just want to throw a brick. "

" justventing wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:12 PM:
" Ah! Summertime, about time the weather was good. And with summertime comes neighbors with loud music. Just a reminder that if you can hear music 15 feet away, they are breaking the law. The noise ordinance is anytime of day not just at night. Please call the police and live in peace.


Are you that kind of neighbor??? At what decibel are you experiencing at 15 feet?? "

" Ah! Summertime, about time the weather was good. And with summertime comes neighbors with loud music. Just a reminder that if you can hear music 15 feet away, they are breaking the law. The noise ordinance is anytime of day not just at night. Please call the police and live in peace. "

" anonymous, did you apologize for hitting and killing that poor dog yet?
YOu're obviously not too bright!
BTW, if your fingernail clippers are missing, just look for the Pollock--Pollocks steal and hoard nail clippers.
Just like Irishmen will intentionally break each and every piece of chalk they can find, just to see what's inside. "

" FOR the TURFers:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/04/19/turf.lead.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories "

" Our local food pantry has nothing to hand out this week? How about Auburns?

Our brownie troop handed out over 400 bags to fill/or put a can good in it-their return was 7 bags out of 400!
They were handed out in the leaders "high-priced" homes area.

I don't think the rich will be using their SURPLUS checks to stimulate the economy especially if thEy are too poor to give A CAN ITEM!
"

" FG: His book came out a week ago-the hottest seller-hard to find in most book stores atleast in my area!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=362421849901825950&hl=en

http://download.srv.cs.cmu.edu/~pausch/
"

" On recycling, it is a GREAT idea. Out here we have a different system. You buy cans or bottles and pay a CRV(California Redemption Value). Size and aluminum/glass incur different charges. Redemption is done by weight. So CA will charge you 5 cents a can and you get about 3 cents back. Hows that for getting ripped off. A lot of people don't recycle, out here. But the can collectors make out pretty good. Speaking of, our desert is filled with litter. Makes you wonder why I am living here. I keep my yard clean. My Lemon tree is the best. I have to keep the trunks of my trees clean. Rattlesnakes think it's good place to live, and they do. "

" Karl was very obviously being sarcastic, a wise-acre, not racist. We may not always agree, but I don't see how anyone can consider Karl a racist.

Meth is a problem out here in the countryside and the users do NOT keep to themselves. You really don't want to run into someone strung out on it, as you never know what they are going to do.

The production is dangerously explosive too, so you worry that maybe your neighbor has a barn or other building on his property all locked up tight because it's really a secret factory which could blow up some day.

Local farms have to worry too, because the producers steal ingredients for their meth labs from farms.

I'll bet you could guess, but I never had party days, so I missed all that garbage. I drank too much twice in college and decided that was no fun, and that was the end of it. Tried pot, which made me dizzy, which makes me nauseous. I've always been a morning person and never stayed up late even in college. I love to dance, but am usually in bed before the clubs even open. I still like my nice glass of wine, or "white Irishman," and I suppose you could say I had my "vices" in the form of some bad relationships when I wasn't married, but I just have never seen the appeal of the party life. To each his own and I know a lot of people had to get it out of their systems when they were younger.

It always shocks me when I go somewhere and they aren't separating and recycling. We had recycling when I was kid outside Detroit in the 70s.

Recently saw a very short film called "The Story of Stuff" -- 20 minutes explaining very simply how we are already almost out of time in terms of how much we consume and waste in a linear fashion. For every one gallon of products we bring into our homes in a month, the production of those products created 70 gallons of waste, so that even if we could achieve the impossible 100% recycling of products we bring into our homes, we'd still be losing ground 70-to-1 -- and that doesn't even include the masses of stuff we destroy acquiring the materials to live. You can't drop a bomb and kill off all the people to solve the problem, but rather, need a more cyclical approach to living. SO far, we can't even convince the majority of the seriousness of the problem, much less come up with a viable solution. (If I had one, I'd run for office. I don't).

cm -- Last Lecture? I must have missed that one. Can you explain? "He" who? "

" karl L wrote :
" ...and Italians order the most banana splits-

THAT explains my addiction to "Friendly's Jim Dandy's". .lol.. "

" How come Karl L is allowed to spew his racist views on here, but if someone criticizes the racist for it, it does notr get printed. By not editing Karl b ut editing everyone else, the Citizen is proving itself to be a racist propaganda rag. "

" Meth is GARBAGE! Use the internet to see what they use to make it. We have commercials on the radio about that horrible drug. I don't care if people use it, but I wish they would just hurry up and let it kill them. It is a long, ugly road to death. It's gross. If you know anyone that uses it, try to get them help. They will most likely lose everything and age about 50yrs. If they have kids, the best thing you could do, would be to take the kids from them. Meth is a very BAD drug, and from what most addicts will say is that it is the Devil's Drug (if it means anything). "

" FG-did you read the Last Lecture yet?
I like a good positive projecting book, hopefully (yet unlikely) his prognosis will improve.
I have been reading his daily blogs to.
What an amazing person! "

" meth is the choice in auburn right now and has been for about 20yrs.
Sometimes I think APD ignores alot of it or they see right threw common sense as to who to watch.
Copper is a huge theft problem in my area too-they gut the A/C units from schools and from homes in broad daylight. We've actually had a few stupid enough to try to steal copper from the power stations--only to die from it!
Nature, the prison has affected the crime families moving into town-but it could be curbed some if landlords did their homework before renting instead of laughing all the way to the bank to cash their homesite checks!
How many classifieds for houses or apartments for rent in Sundays paper stated background and rental checks required? "

" We don't have returnable bottles in my local, and we don't have to wash the trash either. It a running joke when I visit because my sis's house it a kitchen of bins (I call it)--she is always stopping me when I'm about to throw something away!
I do recycle cans and papers, I don't have to but I choose too. A few of the local schools have paper bins-the schools keep the funds. It would be convenient if they all had them. "

" TY QT. It seems that the crack epidemic was a full decade after my party days when it was coke that was prevelant. The Police/Cars were popular. No, I have never known one person or anyone affiliated w/crack. The closest I came to hearing about it was during grand jury last summer when we learned the location of some of the meth labs - which shocked the crap out of me as they were right in the middle of neighborhoods. Syracuse was having a rash of copper thefts also but they got the scrap yards on board with video for all transactions and we barely hear of it anymore. Although the prison has brought down the level of citizen in Auburn, I do look forward to coming home when I travel once a month. But I have doors triple bolted and as stated earlier a gun may be on the horizon. But that is because the world is a scary place and I have learned to always look behind. Maybe watch too much CSI lol. And I know no dagger drawn - I was just curious... "

" Nature Lover, in reference to your post,

And QT what is it with you and your ref's to Auburn and crack as of late? just curious because I have never done it and dont know anyone in town that has? Auburn may not be brew's utopia where everyone can afford curbs but it is a good place.

In response to your post, in which I don't have a dagger drawn. I don't know what friends you keep, but a lot of my friends and/or people in their 30's that were teens and young adults when the Crack epidemic was popular. I have friends that went through the phase and have stopped, and I have friends that still use it. Some are in prison, and some are struggling and most likely non functional. If you lived through the 70's and 80's in Auburn you will agree that Auburn was a "quiet" town. Cocaine didn't yield a lot of crime in it's day. You could pretty much go to sleep with your doors unlocked and sleep with your windows only screened. Crack and the influx of New York City prison families living in town, kind of changed a lot of that. Crime went up in the 80's and it was now unsafe to leave your doors unlocked at night. Crack was flowing in from the BIG city. I have never used it, but have watched my friends use it. The weirdest part was when they smoked the last piece, they would comb the floor looking for it and accusing each other of Holding out.
Out here in Socal we have a HUGE Crystal Meth problem. They mostly stay to themselves. Surprisingly, they are not robbing houses or terrorizing the neighborhood. They prefer to steal copper from construction sites. Yeah, we have a big problem with it, and I only had to deal with one that I had to get physical with. But they usually don't invade us.
That's about what I can tell you of my experience in Auburn. "

" 'Cheating, crooked, criminal of a governor' ?!? Wow those two lines are quite the moron post in every way. The so called water bottle scheme I think u may be referring to is a bottle return. Your lines d/n include that terminology. Water bottles along with disposable diapers are the leading cause of landfill and I beleive its up to 17 states that are soon t/b adopting a water bottle return "scheme" - all aimed at the crackers in this country, of course lol. So I guess that leaves you with 33 other 'non racist' states your sorry kester can move too. Yikes - do these low education posters really live around here? "

" ...and Italians order the most banana splits--it's true, research it yourself! "

" ...and Texans have the largest freezer capacities for the frozen chili that they hoard... "

" ...and Asians drink the most Gatorade.... "

" ...and mostly Blacks eat Swiss cheese... "

" Silly, it's mostly non-returnables one finds littering the landscape. If some people are too lazy and chuck their returnables, there's always someone less fortunate who comes along collecting them for the cash. Returnable bottles is one of the most successful anti-litter/recycling programs ever. "