" Hillbilly, why don't you once and for all answer Karl's question? Is it perhaps because you do not have an answer that won't expose your deeply flawed logic and stance on this occupation?

BTW, "concurred", given your meaning, should have been "conquered".

Lastly, it was Eisenhower who got us into Vietnam. Please get your facts straight. Hint: that will not be possible as long as you continue to watch Faux News. "

" Ha HA, hillbilly, I can rad into your words that you're utterly flummoxed by me and my breathtaking perspicacity and insightful, astute wisdom--so much so that ou even trot out the "misspelling" insult--by the way, Einstein, "LOSER" is spelled with ONE "O"!
Get used to typing that word because McCain will be the "looser" in November, BillyBoy. LOL!
Anyway. I will ask you AGAIN the question you have ignored for the second time--""If America is so recklessly, selflessly altruistic, then why aren't we in countries WHO REALLY NEED US, and are ALSO harbors for Muslim extremists?"
Got an answer?
I thought not...
Anyhoo...I could care less about the Democratic Party--they all suck just as bad as the Repubs. But I will vote for the Communist Party if they will end this war, and I would vote for a Conservative (even worse, IMO) if THEY would end this fruitless, wasteful war, and save this country from the neocon-nazi's.
Hey, hey, hey, Obama all the way, have a veggie burger, it will brighten your day (and your colon will smile! =) )
signed, KARL Fonda Marx O'hare, Secular pinko Commie-Progressive Uber-Girlyman extroardinaire! NYAH NYAH!!

"

" Karl, go check with Fauxnewschannel.com, I'm sure you will get the real info. "

" Karl your a looser, but I'm sure you hear this before. Maybe 6th grade in gym class? However, your right, time to end this thread. I need to go watch more Fox News, Fair and Balanced, not the Secular Progressive Spew. The only problem is I haven't watch Fox News in about a week now. But, I have listened to talk radio. I know Karl, another evil place that your pure ears would never go. To bad it might make you think, but no your just an S&P twister who follows their flock. You know the sheep thing, you like to say to others. Or did you forget that? And for the last time I do not hate Obama. Good night Girllie-Man maybe I will watch Bill O'Reilly tonight.
McCain '08' "

" Missy--your own words for you to down, with ketchup if you please:
"...remainder of state blacks 708,305"
That's 708,305 Black hicks living out in them thar hills, Missy. Proof that not all rural Pa'ns are White.
And for my money, what the hell does it matter anyway? This whole spar is so much over nothing--just a red herring blown up to sound like something by Obama haters. It's patently Faux News crappola, honey! "

" Mublim extremists? Karl you spell Muslim with and "S". See your still up-set. Sit down and breath into the paper bag. You need to save all your hot air and big words. How else will you impress nobody. 93.6% white but, Obama wasn't talking to them, right. No matter where you go Karl there will be different races but, remember according to AJ the 93.6% would "imply" that he was talking to the whites. Nice try Karl but read the posts before between me and AJ. It's good when implying is in your favor, but to be ignored when it is not. Spin and twist it Karl.

As you say- "your long post about the alleged racism of the opposite political parties does not inform the current argument". You were the one who called me a racist right? But, your for the Democrat party, the more racist party as proven by history. Karl if you spin and twist anymore you might snap in half.

Be careful my Girllie-Man, I would not want harm to come to you. Eat a Veggie berger or something. Then back to the Secular Progressives Spew of the non-facts. "

" Karl read your own post."A lot of black people" Where I come from 6.4% is not "A lot" of anything. I told you that you would twist things to prove you are right. Shows signs of insecurity to me that you think your opinion is the only right one. "

" Missy, (and hillbill for that matter!)your own research shows that you are wrong. There are Blacks in the hill country roun' yon Pennsylvanian rurals! Sheesh--how can I be wrong when your own research proves it? Man, talk about a blind spot! LOL!
hillbilly--I for one, cannot possibly imagine that that crap you're spewing about "destroying America" by being a Secular Progressive (and attempting to set America BACK on course from the way that the Religious zealots and Neocons have so misdirected the intentions of our founding fathers!) could possibly come from an intelligent mouth, so I will just attribute your regurgitation of this fallacious bile to Bill O'Reilly and your worshipness of him.
I forgive you for your appropriated stupidity.
Secondly, your typing shows this--that you will consistently ignore viable questions which seek to establish your credibility-of-argument, like the one I posted previously: "If America is so recklessly, selflessly altruistic, then why aren't we in countries WHO REALLY NEED US, and are ALSO harbors for Mublim extremists?"
Spew, sir!
By the way--there is a BIG difference between posting "facts and history" which are RELEVANT to the conversation, and posting meaningless tangential trivia which makes your argument sound impressive to no one but yourself. I suggest you learn the difference--because your long post about the alleged racism of the opposite political parties does not inform the current argument--unless you care to explain clearly what angle you were coming from and how it relates to your willful blindness about "rural Pa'n's" being exclusively White--even if you then modify that with a disclaimer about "percentages" (please!) Cuz I'll be honest--you lost me with that one, completely.
"

" Welcome aboard MISSEY1941, Karl will now ignore you too or twist what you have just shown. "

" HYPOCRISY?!?!
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, OH LUMPER-OF-ALL-PENNSYLVANIANS-INTO-ONE??? (I EAT THIS SH!T UP!!!!!) "

Take it easy Karl, you might pop a blood vessel or something worse. And yes I know numbers but, percentages are the important factor. You did look at those didn't you? Notice a much great percentage of blacks are in the urban setting. This would tell me that the Rural areas would be about 80% or higher as white. And you might be "Typical" but I am not.

Now breath deeply Girllie-Man and then get back to the spewing. "

" Karl L
Pa population 12,440,621
Pa blacks 1,331,114

Philadelphia pop. 1,448,394
" "blacks 622,809

Pa pop. 12.440,621
phily pop. - 1,448,394
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10,992,227

Pa blacks 1,331,114
Phily blacks - 622,809
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708,305

remainder of state blacks 708,305
divided by
remainder of state (others) 10,992,227

equals 6.4% balck, 93.6% non black
I think you are wrong again,and I know you will not admit it. You will just twist things toward your point of view. "

" Karl you are a Secular Progressive, glad to see you admit it. This must be why you hate America. Your words-"YOu know what, hillbilly? America has been flexing its muscles in the world like a big bully for way too long--if not in the outright theatre of actual wars, then in it's CIA bumblings and covert backroom dealings which have brought hardships and death to many pf the world's people just to benefit the rich and powerful. We got our a$$es kicked in Vietnam and you know what? Half the losers in Washington who had to gag on that bitter pill tried to redeem themselves by starting a new pre-emptive war (The Nam was started intentionally by America too, don't forget!)"

Vietnam, we withdrew from a "Political war" that the Dem's (LBJ Administration) got us into. Could we have beat Vietnam? Yes. But, Nixon also realized that this would only escalate into another World War with China and Russia and with Thermal Nuclear Weapons there would be no winner. I believe it was a wise decision to withdraw from Vietnam.

Now for the "Big Bad America". From 1946 when the U.S. dropped "Little Boy" and "Fat Man" to August of 1949 we were the only country possessing a nuclear weapon. Scary isn't it. The United States could have concurred the rest of the world. But wait why didn't we? Since we are a big bad bully and all.

From what you posted here Karl it shows me things about you. One, your up-set and anger, shows in the typing. Two, your an America hater and you will do anything and everything you can to destroy this country. Three, even when presented with facts and history you still prefer to twist the information to your view or to ignore it entirely (That's the Secular Progressive in you).

So Karl you can twist and spew and do the "Jane Fonda" thing all you want. You can even call yourself allot of other things (Commy-Pink-o whatever). I will be here to give the other view and don't forget every once in a while I might even agree with you. But not on Obama. Have a good day Girllie-Man McCain '08' "

" Hillbilly your own words show that your statement was moronic--ten percent of over 12,000,000 people is still OVER A MILLION PEOPLE! What are you--mathematically challenged?
Are you really that comfortably deluded that this fact somehow supports YOUR statement?!
Man, you really ARE reaching aren't you?!?
As far as the "typical" remark.
Absolutely.
There are "typical" WHite folk, "Typical" Blacks, "Typical" Latino's, etc--you could write a book on stereotypes.
Does that mean they're correct? Not necessarily. DO people use them all the time? Absolutely.
And you're a self-righteous hypocrite and liar if you say you don't.
So yes-I'm calling you a hypocritical liar. Deal with it.
Do you realize the magnanimous hypocrisy of you characterizing all "rural Pennsylvanians" as "White" when you're castigating Barack Obama for calling WHite people "typical"?!?! Ha HA!!! LOL! Don't you SEE your utter HYPOCRISY?!?!
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, OH LUMPER-OF-ALL-PENNSYLVANIANS-INTO-ONE??? (I EAT THIS SH!T UP!!!!!) "

" hillbillly--LOL! I can't believe you trotted out the "Jane Fonda" epithet there! LOL!
What are you gonna call me next--a "commie pinko f@g"? LOL!! Gimme a break, hillbilly.
I don't know why you're so on about these two equally fallacious canards you've gotten onto and are riding like a hillbilly beating a rented mule--the "We've been in Europe for 100 years/if we don't stay in Iraq it will mean more bloodshed" crap, and the whole "Democrats=racists" nonsense. I've already complimented you on a nice, informative post, but it does absolutely nothing to forward our discussion. Methinks you;re trying to move the goalposts here?
To establish your credibility on these issues, why don't you see if you can answer these questions?
Wht then, are we not invading Darfur, Somalia, Ethiopia and other countries whose situations and documented campaigns of actual genocide are REAL and WELL DOCUMENTED? If America is so recklessly, selflessly altruistic, then why aren't we in countries WHO REALLY NEED US, and are ALSO harbors for Mublim extremists? (HINT! It has something to do with OIL!)
Personally, I don't see what the hell your point is about the Dems or the Repubs being racist or not has to do with ANYTHING?! At best, its a distant tangent--we weren't talking about PARTY racism, but about your own stupidity about "rural Pennsylvanians" being "White"--as if there was some exclusivity there! So question 2--why have you blithely ignored your stupid statement which proves that you are gullible enough to follow like a sheep the ridiculously diversionary talking points of Obama haters?
What Obama said was the truth--people don't like the truth. But that doesn't make it any less true. People ARE bitter and xenophobic about people unlike them. THAT'S a Conservative hallmark! That;s why Liberals and "Secular Progressives" fight to teach people that trying to squeeze your world view into a comfortably narrow acceptance of only people who look like, worship like, and live like you is BAD FOR NOT ONLY THE NATION, BUT BAD FOR HUMANITY!
Xenophobia--fear of outsiders--STARTS in EVERY religious text. People are taught to fear and look down upon people who are not of their tribe. To free Humanity from that burden would be the greatest benefit and triumph for Girliemen like me and AJ. If you think that I'm wrong, then you're part of the problem.
There is something distinctly Freudian and frightening about people who support this illegal war while ignoring the outright and obvious extreme harm it's doing to our economy, future, and military. There is the mentality of going back again and again in a bar fight, getting your a$$ kicked obver and over and when ou're in the hospital bleeding, saying "Yeah but you should have seen the other guy".
YOu know what, hillbilly? America has been flexing its muscles in the world like a big bully for way too long--if not in the outright theatre of actual wars, then in it's CIA bumblings and covert backroom dealings which have brought hardships and death to many pf the world's people just to benefit the rich and powerful. We got our a$$es kicked in Vietnam and you know what? Half the losers in Washington who had to gag on that bitter pill tried to redeem themselves by starting a new pre-emptive war (The Nam was started intentionally by America too, don't forget!) so they could redeem their fractured egos--and McCain has now shown himself to have fallen into that ego-trap as well. I can't believe that you don't see it. But I'm sure that you wouldn't admit it even if you did. Signed, Commie pinko f@g girlyman Karl Fonda McCarthy "

" Hi again Karl. I just checked in with the U.S. Census Bureau and this is what I found. 85.7% of Pennsylvanians are white. 10.7% are listed as black (2006). For Philadelphia it lists 45% white and 43.2% black (2000). This to me shows that the black population is located in the Urban area's, leaving Rural PA. mostly to the whites. So Karl would you like to chock on your words again? here they are :"how you could attempt to state that only WHITE people are "rural Pennsylvanians" (???!!!!) HUH?!" numbers don't lie. Check them out, but you know as I did and as many others did that yes Obama's statement referred to White Americans. Just like his statement about his Grandmother being a "Typical White Person". Now please define a typical white person? I have known many of them and I find them all different, the same as blacks. Do you really want a president that is going to treat the major portion of the population as being typical? So spew as much as you want Karl I am just not seeing what I need to from Obama. Have a good day Girllie-Man. McCain '08' "

" So Brew1234 you got to 1850 before seeing that I was right and Democrats have been, over history, more racist than Republican's. Does this make the Democratic Party bad? No, it just shows they were slow learners. And if you don't learn from history you will be bound to repeat history. Remember, After WWI no involvement in Europe lead to war again. After WWII we stayed and peace was the result. So, I ask you today, do we leave Iraq or stay in Iraq? It might not be popular to stay and it will cost money. But, if we are to repeat history again, this will be left up to our Government and us to decide. No matter which party is in charge. That's why Obama if he is President will not leave Iraq. "

" No Karl I do not hate Obama. You can say what you want to make other think I do. I wrote the truth and you are still to blind or stupid not to see. Hopefully others will ask who is Obama? What does he stand for? One thing I can say is he will not bring change and with out substance his hope is hollow. McCain will not bring great change either. But, he see the road ahead and understands that to leave Iraq is to create chaos, like the chaos that was created after WWI. McCain is a warrior who fought in an unpopular war, which by the way under LBJ (Democrat), our military role was escalated. To mock him now Karl I find to be "Jane Fonda" like and as for your "hypocrisy--(I eat this sh*t up!)" it seem you spew it back out in even greater amounts. You rant and you rave but, you really say nothing. And when it come to history and proving points such as the "Who more Racist Democrats or Republicans" you choose to ignore the truth. You then claim others are racist, me, without knowing me. You like "reading into things" like AJ likes to "imply" and if you read the post in front of your accusing me as being racist you will see that I only did to Barack's statements that AJ did to "anonymous" first post. Which you did too. So Girllie-Men now that I have shown you for the Secular Progressive soldiers you are and not the free thinker you think you are.

PS: Really I don't hate Barack, because yes he could be our next President. But, I will still be voting for McCain, sorry boys. Opp's maybe I shouldn't use that word being Racist and all. "

" What does the acts of the Democratic Party of the 1850s have to do with today? What does the words of your preacher have to do with your character? Do all catholics have to stay out of the public service if their pastors were child molesters? You have no logic in your overly long rant. If I find any fault in Obama it may be his elitist attitudes. In the 60s I was a republican mainly because of the civil rights movement. I later turned to the democratic party nationally but support the republicans in state government(Massachusetts) I like to think of myself as a free thinker and open to you swaying my opinion. But you must use logic and truth to do that. "

" Whatever you think about Rev Wright, he was right. "

" hillbilly, a very impressive post--if we were arguing about which PARTY was most pro/anti-black---but we're not; sorry to see that you wasted your time posting all that.
If what you're saying is true--if you are black--then it befuddles me all the more how you could attempt to state that only WHITE people are "rural Pennsylvanians" (???!!!!) HUH?!
O confess that I don't understand your hatred of Obama--it sounds almost like a shade of something deeply Freudian that I don't want to crack the lid off of.
Perhaps you are really just a skeerdy-cat like all the McCainiacs?
I find it really tragic that you don't see that the country really needs a change from Republican lies and obfuscations, from War and fear.
I reiterate that John MCCain--by his OWN WORDS--would be a disastrous president. He's too trapped in Viet Nam still, in his own head. A man desperately trying to vindicate his time in captivity and looking for bogeymen against which to continue the war in his head.
A flip-flopper too---first he said that tax cuts "offended his conscience"--now he's for them! Why? Because he admits he hasn't a clue about the economy--so he's pandering to the Conservative vote because he has no viable platform or plan.
A disaster for the country to be sure. Your support for him is unfathomable to me.
"

" You should ask around about tax preparation help. Usually there are organizations that sponsor free tax prep help for lower and fixed income people. Also if you have a computer or can get to a library you can get free filing on line. If you need help with filing on line someone at the library, either staff or a patron may help you. Also if you try to file yourself, there are IRS help lines. Please don't give your needed funds to tax preparers. They have a purpose, but it should not be to collect outrageous fees to low income and fixed income persons. "

" Karl would it be racist for Obama's #2 preacher (I don't recall his name at the moment) to say Condie Rice is President Bush's House "N" word? They have him on tape referring to several blacks as being House "N" words. He defends it by saying that it is a term of endearment. Where he get's this idea I have no clue because it offends me greatly. But, Obama replaced Rev. Wright with him as his Spiritual Advisor, why? Is Obama that bad at picking advisors that he would pick Preachers that preach racism? No Karl there are Blacks out there who have asked the question who is Obama and what does he stand for. Now if you have a moment you can read the following and tell me why Blacks follow the Democrats? You can check the statements out to because it is all history.

Who is More Racist: Democrats or Republicans?
While there are racists and bigots on both sides of the aisle, nearly every piece of racist legislation Congress has enacted was initiated and supported by mostly Democrats. Nearly all anti-racist and equal rights legislation was initiated and supported mostly by the Republicans.

Over the past 160 years the Democratic Party legislated Jim Crows laws, Black Codes and a multitude of other laws at the state and federal level to deny African Americans their rights as persons and citizens. Conversely, the Republican Party was formed in 1854 to abolish slavery and challenge racist legislative acts initiated by the Democratic Party. The Republican Party addressed racism as a moral issue in its first platform in 1856 where 5 of the 9 planks in the platform addressed racial issues.

While the Civil war was technically over “state’s rights” the state’s right it was over was slavery. The Democrats fought to keep it and the Republican gave their lives to stop it.

After the Civil war, the KKK was founded by Democrats in the South to intimidate African Americans voters. Cross burnings and whippings were part of their equal opportunity outreach activities.

In the years that followed, the Democrats lynched, burned, mutilated and murdered thousands of Blacks and destroyed entire towns and communities occupied by middle class Blacks, including Rosewood, Florida, the Greenwood District in Tulsa Oklahoma, and Wilmington, North Carolina.

The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 was introduced by a Republican Congress to stop Klan Activities. Senate records of the debates prove that the KKK was the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.

The Democratic run KKK murdered several hundred Black elected officials in the South to regain control of the varius levels of government in the South. All of the elected Black officials up to 1935 were Republicans. To this day, more Blacks have held high office in Republican administrations, by far, than in Democrat adminsitrations, including the administration of William Jefferson Clinton, “the first black President.”
Abolitionists and radical Republicans such as Henry L. Morehouse and General Oliver Howard started many of the traditional Black colleges, while Democrats fought to keep them closed. Many Black colleges are named after white Republicans.

The Republicans introduced the 13h, 14th and 15th Amendments to abolish slavery, give citizenship to all African Americans born in the United States and, give Blacks the right to vote. Congressional records document that the Democrats opposed all three Amendments.

For the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery, 118 of 118 Republicans in Congress voted for that Amendment, but only 19 of 82 Democrats voted to end slavery. Republicans single-handedly passed the 14th and the 15th Amendments to the Constitution to guarantee the rights of citizenship and voting for all African American. Not one Democrat voted for either of those two constitutional amendments.

In its first 14 years of controlling Congress, Republicans passed 23 civil rights laws over the strident and almost unanimous opposition of Democrats. As an example, only 13 percent of Democrats voted for the 1872 Education Bill that provided education for African Americans, and no Democrat voted for either the 1875 Klan bill to punish Klan violence or the 1875 Civil Rights Bill banning segregation and racial discrimination .

Following Democrats regaining control of the U. S. House in 1876, no civil rights bills were passed for the next 89 year.

When Democrats regained control of the House, Senate, and Presidency in 1893 they repealed the federal civil rights laws – including the Klan law and the voting rights protection laws.

Every Jim Crow racial segregation law was passed by a Democrat controlled state legislature. Republican platforms had consistently called for an end to Democrat-imposed Jim Crow laws and poll taxes but Democrat platforms never did.

When the Supreme Court issued its Brown v. Board of Education ruling against segregation, 100 Democrat congressmen (19 U. S. Senators and 81 Representatives) issued a public denunciation of that ruling, declaring that desegregation was “certain to destroy the system of public education” and that there would be what they called an “explosive and dangerous condition created by this decision.”

The famous 1964/5 Civil Rights Bill was formulated from the proposals of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s 1957 Civil Rights Commission – proposals stridently opposed by Democrats when introduced in Congress in 1957. When those civil rights provisions were reintroduced under Democrat Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson, the Democrat-controlled Congress was unable to pass either bill on its own, even though it was easily in the Democrats’ power to do so. At the time, Democrats held 315 seats in Congress and needed only 269 votes to pass the measures through the House and the Senate. History records that only 198 Democrats voted for those bills. The Civil Rights Bill was finally passed because of strong Republican support: 82 percent of Republicans voted for those measures, compared to only 63 percent of Democrats.

While Democrats were busy passing laws to hurt Blacks, Republicans were primarily responsible for or gave strong bi-partiasan support the following Civil Rights legislation:

Emancipation Proclamation
13th Amendment
14th Amendment
15th Amendment
Civil Rights of 1866
Reconstruction Act of 1867
Enforcement Act of 1870
Forced Act of 1871
Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
Civil Rights Act of 1875
Civil Rights Act 1866
The Freeman Bureau, 1866
Civil Rights Act of 1957
Civil Rights Act of 1960
United State Civil Rights Commission
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Voting Rights Act of 1965
Civil Rights Acts of 1968
Equal Opportunity Act of 1972
Comprehensive Employment Training Act of 1973
Voting Rights Act of Amendment of 1982
Civil Rights Act of 1983
Federal Contract Compliance and Workforce Development Act of 1988

Court records shows that it was the Democrats that supported the Dred Scott Decision which classified Blacks as property rather than people. It was also the racist Jim Crow laws passed by Democrats that ultimately brought about the two landmark cases of Plessy v Ferguson and latter Brown v. The Board of Education.

Not long after Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt took office, he banned black newspapers from the military and refused to pass the Civil Rights Commission and Anti-Klan laws.

During the Republican Eisenhower Administration Civil Rights Laws were passed and school desegregation began..

Democratic Attorney General, Robert Kennedy approved the secret wire taps on Dr, Martin Luther King Jr.. Democratic President Lyndon Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that n*** preacher." Senator Byrd, himself a member of the KKK, called Dr. King “a trouble maker who causes trouble and then runs like a coward when trouble breaks out.”

Dr. Martin Luther King, several Civil Rights leaders and many historians reported that during the first two years of his administration, President John F. Kennedy ignored Dr. King's request for Civil Rights. The chronicles of history reveal that it was only after television coverage of riots and several demonstrations did President Kennedy feel a need to introduce the 1963 Civil Rights Act.

Under President Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed. Johnson commended Senator Everett Dirksen a Republican senator from Illinois for pushing the law through. More Republicans voted for this law than Democrats. Southern Democrats voted overwhelmingly against the law.

President Richard Nixon, a Republican, signed the 1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act and then issued Executive Order 11478 which started what is now called “Affirmative Action.”

In 1993, Republican President Ronald Reagan, signed into law a bill to make Martin Luther King's birthday a national holiday.

On December 15, 1994, federal Judge David V. Kenyon issued a court order to the Clinton Administration. The order demanded that Secretary Reich and the Clinton Administration force 100 west coast shipping companies to develop an Affirmative Action plan to stop discrimination against African Americans, Hispanics, Females and Disabled Workers. African Americans were being force to work in an environment where they had job classification called "N***r Jobs." When Clinton left office six years later, the court order had still not been complied with.

President Clinton sent 20, 000 troops to protect the white citizens Bosnia, but sent no troops to Africa's Rwanda to protect the black citizens there. Consequently over 800,000 Africans were massacre
On December 3, 2002, President Clinton spoke to Democratic Leadership Council in New York regarding the future of the Democratic Party and how they could retake the White House. In his speech, he did not address Civil Rights issues for blacks or doing any thing to improve the conditions of Blacks.. His only reference to Civil Rights was Civil Rights for Gays. His only reference to improving communities was his recommendation to re-build communities in other countries.

History shows that it is the Democratic Party that has not only taken Black Americans for granted but, for the most part, actively opposed all equal opportunity efforts. To this day they have not offered or issued an apology.

The vast majority of white Republicans would have no problem voting for a conservative Black American for President. Based on history, will the vast majority of white Democrats vote for a Black American for President? "

" Karl I'm Black. Now what were you saying? "

" Hillbilly, here's the delicious irony of your hypocrisy--(I eat this sh*t up!)--you are so intent on hating Obama because he's Black, that you have honestly deluded yourself into the utterly ridiculous position of believing that there are only WHite people in rural Pa who "cling to their guns or religion or antipathy to people who are not like them"!!!
Honestly--are you for REAL?!!
"Rural Pennsylvanians--White people"--HA HA!!!! LOL!
ARE YOU EVEN AWARE OF HOW RACIST AND STUPID THAT STATEMENT ALONE IS???!!!
I come from PA originally, hillbill, and can tell you there are a lot of frustrated black people who cling to their guns and religion too living in the "rurals"!
The truth is that YOU SIR are the racist one here, because your utter contempt for Obama--based on his race--is so blinding that you can't even see how it's blinded you to your own ridiculous statements and warped opinions of what IS and what is NOT, "racist"!
Thanks for the laugh--but please, GET REAL!!! "

" So AJ your saying that when Barack Obama implied that White Americans are frustrated because they "get bitter, they cling to their guns or religion or antipathy to people who are not like them." He made this statement when he was referring to Rural Pennsylvanians (White People). And it would not be implied that Barack might be racist because he sat in a church for 20 years while Rev. Wright spewed racist and hate America remarks. So should we read into someone's statement because it implies a different meaning? AJ your a good Secular Progressive soldier, so keep running to the left wing blogs and spew it back here as the implied truth. Gotta go Girllie-Man hope you have a good day. "

" Hillbilly, you are a piece of work. Try reading the post again. It seems pretty clear to me that it was implied at the very least. "

" Karl I don't see anywhere that "anonymous" said that Ms. Martinez was a scumbag? He's referring to non-taxpayers as the scumbags. And Ms. Martinez did say she was paying her taxes. So don't read into things Karl, but I do agree with you involving the dog issue "anonymous" did show signs of being a scumbag. But, I'm sure someone has called me that too. "

" Here's a twist to this give-a-way that even the left wingers will appreciate. What if this “Stimulus Payment” is a way for the government to check on tax payers who haven't filed in the years past? The IRS could be checking their records to see if everyone who's trying to get this “Stimulus Payment” has been filing over the last few years. And guess what happens if you haven't? So, is it a scheme by the government to catch the tax cheat or just a “Stimulus Payment"? And yes it is tax free. "

" anaonymous, if there's a heartless scumbag on this forum, it's you. "FIXED INCOME" she said, you twerp--did your limited education leave you unable to read properly?!
BTW, did you ever apologize for running over that dog and killing it?
Scumbag yourself! "

" I dont think non-taxpaying scum bags should get yet another government handout. "