" I'll just bet CVC has stock in both KBR and Haliburton.

Yeah Chris, just like Pelosi would impeach the president if the Dems took the house.

I have a problem with outsourcing any of this stuff to a huge corporation, especially when they are not American corporations (by virture of not paying taxes on their profits).

Still haven't answered my question about the "incubator babies" Chris. "

" budo: I read the articles and didn't see anything about Cheney doing anything illegal. Again, don't you think Waxman, Pelosi, Reed and the lot would nail this guy to a cross if they could?
Do you have the same problem with Halliburton when they were hired by the Clinton admin to do the same type of work in Somalia and in the Balkans?
Or by FDR or LBJ? Can you name another US company that can do the things and on the same scale that Halliburton can do? If Halliburton or KBR isn't there, who will replace them? My guess it would be a heck of a lot more troops. "

" You still don't get it do you CVC?

It was only PARTLY true. READ the official Congressional Research Service info on it. The Wiki entry is only part of the story, and proves he is lying. GET IT NOW?

Of course not. What else is new? "

" Uh, Mr. Van Note, those goods have been found.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/02/16/040216fa_fact.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040607-644111,00.html

http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/25/news/companies/cheney/ "

" Read what I posted with regard to his Halliburton holdings. He has an insurance policy guaranteeing a fixed amount of his deferred payments NOT dependent on how well or poorly the company does and all of that money goes to charity.
Bodo, Cheney RETIRED from the company in 2000. What happened after that had nothing to do with the VP.
And really, if there were a conflict of interest with regard to his stocks...don't you think that with all the liberal/leftist hatred of the man, someone, somewhere, would have found the goods by now? "

" cm wrote on Apr 7, 2008 3:21 PM:
" well said!,chris van note.
Some people just like to pick 'n choose what they want to hear and believe.
They don't like to dig deeper or look at the overall picture beause that just might taint the "lies" they do believe! ""

CM, READ my posts as well as budobrubbie's, and then follow the links. Actually READ what's there, then review your comments, and then look in the mirror. "

" budobrubbie, great post. Just don't expect it to sink into Ms Coulter, er, CVN. He's got his ultra heavy-duty blinders on where Cheney is concerned.

Here is a link which takes Cheney's claim to task and proves him to be a liar. This is confirmed by the Congressional Research Service.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/ethics.html "

" CVC, I'd want more information than just from Wiki regarding Cheney's claim. You see, I have no reason whatsoever to trust him.

Dick Cheney, and KBR Haliburton - Real Americans.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/chronology.html

It is revealed that while Vice President Cheney was Halliburton's CEO, the number of its subsidiary companies in offshore tax havens increased from 9 (in 1995) to 44 (in 1999). One of these subsidiaries (Halliburton Products and Services Ltd.), incorporated in the Caiman Islands, is used since 2000 to get around sanctions on doing business in Iran.41 At the same time, Halliburton's federal taxes dropped dramatically from $302 million in 1998 to an $85 million rebate in 1999.42

Despite these revelations, the company continues to be awarded massive government contracts, including a new 10-year deal with the Army with no lid on potential costs. In the year 2002 alone, Brown & Root received $1.3 billion for services to the U.S. government.43 These services include a $115 million contract to design and construct an embassy compound in Afghanistan; $37.3 million to build 816 detention cells at Guantanamo Bay "

" Excuse me, Mr. Van Note, but the VP still owns over 400,000 options of Haliburton stock, now worth more than $8 million. Haliburton has been criticized by independent auditors for its handling of no-bid contacts in Iraq, and in Louisiana after Katrina. Auditors found that Haliburton even marked up meal prices for our troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. In 2003, the independent Congressional Research Service concluded that holding stock options while still in elected office constitutes a financial interest, and is against the law. Furthermore, Cheney still receives a deferred salary from Haliburton, about $300,000 in 2004. There clearly is a conflict of interest here. "

" CVC, you never did answer my question about the "incubator babies". Do you still believe THAT story too? "

" And your source for this information on Cheney is?

As far as any resolution binding on Hussein, first let me ask you if we are so intent on enforcing UN resolutions, why don't we invade Israel? There are long-standing resolutions against their occupation.

The fact of the matter is is that the resolution authorized the war on the grounds that Hussein was proven to have illegal WMD. It was never proven that he did posess them at the time, and the weapons inspectors certified this.

I see you still did not bother to check out google for "iraq war" + illegality on google. Am I right Ms Coulter? "

" Would it not be nice to read a letter from a Liberal that was factual? "

" well said!,chris van note.
Some people just like to pick 'n choose what they want to hear and believe.
They don't like to dig deeper or look at the overall picture beause that just might taint the "lies" they do believe! "

" Hilltop, do I really need to go back to the first Gulf war to the present and provide you with all of the quotes by both Democratic and Republican politicians with regard to this topic as well as many, many world leaders calling for Saddam to be removed? Not to mention all of the UN mandates that Hussein ignored?
By democratizing Iraq we will help to stabilize oil pricing and it will give us some leverage over the Saudis by influencing Iraqi oil reserves (since most libs state that it was a "war for oil-right?). GWB looking out for US interests?
My God, how horrible is that...
I hope you are doing your part by not using any heating oil, driving a car, riding on public transportation or any trips on a plane. Ride your bike, grow your own food, don't use any plastics (because its made from petroleum products you know).


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" I feel sorry for you chris van note ,you've been sucked in all the way with georgie ,since when is it legal to just plain invade another country for no reason at all .To finish what daddy started and didn't get done and is Iran going to be next -will he nuke them before leaving office to make sure we stay forever in that place that has been at war for 2500 years ??!! "

" Wow, way to miss the point on the whole Spitzer thing. Prostitution in New York is illegal so it really doesn't matter if its legal in Nevada, now does it?
You touch on all the lame and tired liberal talking points...Halliburton, war profiteering, impeachment. Millions of Iraqis have been displaced and many are moving back and although the picture is far from perfect, things are definately changing for the better.
As far as W "taking lives", during the utopian peacetime of Bill Clinton's term, we lost 4302 service personnel (and there wasn't even a war, go figure). As far as your completely incorrect assumption about Cheney, Cheney retired from the company during the 2000 U.S. presidential election. Also, before entering office in 2001, Cheney bought an insurance policy that guaranteed a fixed amount of deferred payments from Halliburton each year for five years so that the payments would not depend on the company's fortunes. He is legally bound by an agreement he signed which turns over power of attorney to a trust administrator to sell the options at some future time and to give the after-tax profits to three charities. The agreement specifies that 40% will go to the University of Wyoming (in Cheney's home state), 40% will go to George Washington University's medical faculty to be used for tax-exempt charitable purposes, and 20% will go to Capital Partners for Education. The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," preventing Cheney from taking back the options at a later date. Maybe you should actually do some reading before you write these uniformed letters to the editor.
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