Two Cents

Friday, April 4, 2008 4:20 PM EDT

How come Bill Jacobs is allowed to talk at a city council meeting when there is no Public to be Heard session at the meeting? I say that all the people should have this type of access to our local leadership, not just the "special citizens."



The people that live around Firehouse 2 seem to think they are owed their own personal firehouse. Get over it --- the main firehouse is only a half mile away

I grow very weary of seeing the state once again adding taxes onto cigarettes. To my knowledge, alcohol is rarely taxed additionally, probably because there are more drinkers and more socializing in the Albany area.

The legislators can't light up because they've made it difficult to find a legal place to do so, but the movers and groovers think drinking totally acceptable. I am a smoker, and find drinking disgusting.

What makes the Civil Service Commission think the lateral hires won't be from Auburn?

Auburn's Civil Service Commission's got to be in bed with the unions. They should have been eliminated long ago.




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bill wrote on Apr 7, 2008 4:28 PM:

" wouldn't you think retired firemen sloan and jacobs would have tried to help out with the problems between the city and the fire dept, especially jacobs who was a do nothing city councilor. taxpayer bill "

Andy B wrote on Apr 7, 2008 4:25 PM:

" Aren't the above too cents from Friday? What's with that? "

karl L wrote on Apr 7, 2008 3:24 PM:

" I have heavy-duty tin foil on my bedroom windows covering them completely, top to bottom. And heavy duty black garden plastic covering that--no lie! It can be like 3:00 AM at noon in my bedroom. Great for jet lag!
Don't even talk to me about drugs--got no use for them whatsoever.

"

Sam wrote on Apr 7, 2008 12:52 PM:

" "quiveringthighs" - I know that everyone has their own opinion, but yours is difficult to look at without a sense of pity for the "author".

I was raised in Auburn and folks here are not in the least how you depict them. Auburn had been for many lifetimes a place for family, community spirit, and a great place to raise your children. If the elderly are concerned about their safety, they have a good reason. We try not to judge others and are willing to help those in need, even drug users.

Auburn has been and can become once again the wonderful place so many remember. It's time to strengthen our police force, change laws, and clear out the criminals that come from other areas and put them where they belong.

I'll pray for your soul as I pray for the return to a safe and wonderful Auburn. "

nature lover wrote on Apr 7, 2008 12:31 PM:

" QT, I wrote that yesterday...its Monday and I am working also...and huh with the foil on the windows and smoke crack? sup w/that? "

quiveringthigh wrote on Apr 7, 2008 12:20 PM:

" Nature Lover, what a great idea. too bad I have to work today. I would think people in Auburn would say something like, "Put foil on all the windows dead bolt the doors and I will lock myself in my bedroom and smoke crack all day" "

nature lover wrote on Apr 6, 2008 11:22 AM:

" Already a beautiful day out there...spring is here !!! Pack yerself a picnic w/some NYS vino or beer or go to weggies and get some subs and GET OUT !! The state parks are not charging yet but are open so u can just drive in...enjoy!!!! "

richard102167ny wrote on Apr 6, 2008 10:52 AM:

" I DONT MIND IF YOU SMOKE ,EXCUSE ME WHILE I FART "

irritated wrote on Apr 6, 2008 9:30 AM:

" It seems to me that with all the recession talk, some say depression cause the recession is already here, that we should be finding ways to save money... That's almost impossible for the average working class person to do as we get taxed to death. The County found another way to blow over a quarter of a million dollars a year on a County Managers office that we DONT really need! If the Legislators held the committee's and department heads accountable for what goes on in thier departments... you know actually DO the jobs they were elected to do, we would not need to spend $291,242.00 a year for a County Managers office. It is time that the public held the Legislature of this County accountable for the way that they WASTE OUR MONEY! Would we have needed a 5.8% tax increase if we didnt have to spend over a quarter of a million dollars on an office we dont really need? Ive worked for the County for over 20 years and have seen some real idiotic things, but this one takes the cake! Many in the Office Building are worried about layoffs (so we can keep a position we dont need) and that will translate into less serivces for YOU the taxpayers, longer lines, more hassles, longer wait times for County offices to get the job done, and that's too bad since YOU and I pay for all of this! We should not be the ones to suffer and WE should NOT let them get away with this nonsense. Keep the jobs that were designed to HELP and SERVICE the people who PAY for it all, lets get rid of the Manager's office and save ourselves $291,242.00 per year! Can you imagine what we COULD do with that money.... maybe decrease the tax burden on all of us?? Contact your Legistlator and let them know what you think of this obscene WASTE of OUR money! But be prepared, they like someone else doing the job they were elected to do, this will be an uphill battle, but one that CAN be won! Its time to take back our government on all levels, after all we pay for it all. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Apr 6, 2008 6:01 AM:

" Thanks, QT, but I tend towards 1930-40s murder mysteries, Errol Flynn films and suspense/intrigue, plus a collection of vampire films (mostly awful, but it's an academic interest) and football films. We have a bunch of Nicholas Cage films, almost all of James Bond, Jackie Chan, and a little sub-collection of past-n-present films, as well as ghost films in which either the ghost doesn't know s/he is dead, or vice versa. Thanks for the offer, but not my speed.

timmy -- I'm with you 100%. Wasting billions we don't actually have has to be the largest impact on the economy and everyone is looking at all the other details as places to "repair." Drop the war and suddenly funds are available to do everything this country needs to do.

My mom just wrote from Detroit that someone smashed in her car window overnight. That first happened when we had a Datsun in the late 70s and auto workers in Detroit were going around attacking the property of anyone who owned a foreign car. When I was home in September, nothing had changed in terms of the local economy since I had left in 1982, and now my mom has had her third car window smashed in while it sat outside her house -- and this one's a Saturn -- an almost all American-made car. "

quiveringthigh wrote on Apr 5, 2008 9:27 PM:

" FG My vcr tapes are like Hair, The Shining, Aerosmith(live in texas), Heavy Metal, Black Sabbath(Vol 1), Don't Blame Me - Ozzy. To name a few. I have to dig them up.

Oh.. this one is for Karl w/ a K, I have The Secret of Steel(w/Hail to England & Into Glory Ride cds) and one titled 3 on 1 It has Gloves of Metal, Blow Your Speakers and Return of the Warlord. All filmed in Auburn. I went to the first 2 video shoots. The first one on Logan Street(Is the concrete slab still Red?) and the second one at Weedsport Speedway. How's that for Nostalgia? "

nature lover wrote on Apr 5, 2008 8:28 PM:

" Hmmm, five buck pizza eh? times are tuff! I have to say though I agree on whatever we injest that they wear something on their hands as hepititis spreads easily and just the plain ol' disgusting thought that maybe 5 minutes earlier they had and itchy kester or they sneezed in their hands or well I will stop there..."food" for thought... "

timmy wrote on Apr 5, 2008 6:40 PM:

" Is job loss, increasing food and oil prices, value of our dollar cyclical in nature OR is it just we have a really crappy team of leaders? For example, why are we pumping BILLIONS into a war that not many people agree with?

The fire house is in the middle of city for a reason right?

What happened to the 15 or 25 feet from a door way law - does anyone abide by that? "

AJ wrote on Apr 5, 2008 4:04 PM:

" Justventing, what do you expect for a $5.00 pizza? lol

I remember about 25 years ago when I was in the LA area I went in to pick up a pizza from a joint with a real Italian name. When I got there my pizza was still in the oven, and I got a chance to watch the chef in action while I was waiting. He was a Chinese guy, and very nice, but I'll never forget the image of him working over a new pizza with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth with the ashes just about ready to drop.

It woulda been funny, except all I could think of was how many ashes were on MY pizza.

I will say that the pizza was good though! Ashes - yummy! lol... "

movedsouth wrote on Apr 5, 2008 2:05 PM:

" justventing, I agree with you 100%. Let's see raw meat, cooked meat, dirty money, possibly a rest room stop. "

karl L wrote on Apr 5, 2008 1:26 PM:

" justventing, I can't believe you would be concerned about that? I think that's the silliest "law" out there!
I'd be more concerned about the damage to your health from a fat-laden "$5.00 pizza" than any imaginary cooties you might catch from the handler. "

justventing wrote on Apr 5, 2008 12:52 PM:

" I went downtown to get a 5.00 pizza and noticed that nobody had any rubber gloves on, even the one handling the money and then going back to cut the pizza up. I thought that was a law?--Anybody know?
"

karl L wrote on Apr 5, 2008 12:08 PM:

" Hey, did you see that federal authorities have raided another Fundamentalist Mormon compound in Eldorado, Texas?
Another group of freaky, super-secretive, system-abusing, child-molesting-and-marrying creeps! It's about time that the Feds have cracked down on abuses against both children and the welfare system perpetrated in the name of Religion!
Three cheers for the Feds on this one! RAH RAH RAH!!!! "

cm wrote on Apr 5, 2008 12:05 PM:

" fg
have a safe 'n fun trip! "

karl L wrote on Apr 5, 2008 11:58 AM:

" YAAY! NO MIke Reagan column today!! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Apr 5, 2008 11:27 AM:

" BTW, AJ -- I think there have recently been some studies to support your theory that genetics also play a role in whether or not a smoker gets cancer. Anecdotally, I knew one woman who lost a lung to cancer and never smoked a day in her life, nor was she exposed to second-hand smoke, etc. I know another woman who has smoked like a chimney all her life, now in her 70s, and no sign of cancer at all. (Not really fair, is it?) "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Apr 5, 2008 9:49 AM:

" Silly Rabbit and AJ -- I agree that we do have a lot more to worry about in terms of terrible pollutants, carcinogens and other unhealthy substances spewed into our environment than cigarette smoke.

As for smoking, I have no problem with considerate smokers.

QT -- Depends on the movies. I collect in certain areas and have no interest in others. Want to give a sample of the titles you want to dump?

BTW, I'll be out of town for a conference so those who hate my long posts can have a happy break. Don't know if I'll get a chance to check in from afar or not. Departing tomorrow, not back until Wed night. Cheers all! "

oldtimer wrote on Apr 4, 2008 10:12 PM:

" AJ,
Come visit me I smoke,drink,set on
my deck & listen to everyone's
problems &hope for more days
to do same !!!!!!! "

AJ wrote on Apr 4, 2008 8:51 PM:

" I should add that when I was living in CA in the downtown area of a small city, the particulate matter from all the exhaust was far more voluminous and disgusting than from my smoking, for what it's worth. "

AJ wrote on Apr 4, 2008 8:47 PM:

" Disclaimer: I smoke.

I also agree with SR about the air quality problem due to other more harmful pollutants.

I think that the 2nd hand smoke issue is overblown, but is not without some merit. I just don't think it is as noxious or dangerous as it is offensive to many. There are those who can smoke 3 packs a day their entire adult life and live to a ripe old age without any apparent health consequences, and those who have severe problems. I think genetics plays an important part in all this. I'm not a scientist, so this is just my humble observation.

Anyway, I am much more concerned about other known and far more dangerous carcinogens being allowed into the environment. "

quiveringthigh wrote on Apr 4, 2008 8:43 PM:

" Farmer's Gal,
D'ya want about 60 more VHS????


you wrote
I now have a collection of at least 600-800 movies, mostly VHS, though I did finally break down and get a DVD player too.

"

quiveringthigh wrote on Apr 4, 2008 8:40 PM:

" If it wasn't for smokers, everyone would be paying higher taxes. "

vic wrote on Apr 4, 2008 7:44 PM:

" Smoking in someone's restaurant? What year are you living in, 2002? "

news reader wrote on Apr 4, 2008 6:50 PM:

" sorry, but i don't start and run my car inside my house or someone's restaurant. there's a difference. "

richard102167ny wrote on Apr 4, 2008 5:47 PM:

" THE WORLD IS NOT YOUR TRASH CAN ,USE A ASHTRAY "

silly rabbit wrote on Apr 4, 2008 5:04 PM:

" As a non smoker, it seems to me that the cars and trucks on the roads pollute the air more than smokers, and with tons of toxic chemicals. Im not making an argument for smoking, just easy to point fingers at those who do what we dont do. I bed tru2me has dumped tons of toxic chemicals in the air, via the car, truck, plane, train, whatever.... just as I have without ever smoking. Drinking is bad for your health, smoking is bad for your health, drinking the water is bad, for that matter breathing probably isnt too good for us either lol... lighten up ! "

tru2me wrote on Apr 4, 2008 4:43 PM:

" Big difference between smoking and drinking. Smoking pollutes the air for those around you and just the air in general. When one consumes one drink, that doesn't poison someone elses body. There are numerous arguments about over drinking which is another discussion including drinking and driving. "

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