" Just a little puzzled why someone would post this:

cm wrote on Mar 28, 2008 4:52 PM:
" AJ I dont need a catastrophe to learn humility. You think I havent struggled?
or made some bad choices? or took some wrong directions?
PLease..you live and learn!
BAD choices: loser #1 the HS sweetheart,2wks before wedding caught him with a 14yr old.
loser #2--caught him with "the sister"
loser #3-playboy of the year!

in 27 years my electric/phone/cable.etc has all been turned off atleast 5-6 times/ had 2 vehicles re-poed which I got back and pd off/First work comp case costed me 4yrs and 3 knee surgeries/latest work injury has costed me 5yrs and so far 1 surgery BUT overall, I didn't run to alcohol or think some "coke" would CURE my woes!
And I didnt run to the nearest state office to bail me out either!

Maybe it's just a story. Well, let's see what I can do. I will call this fictional person "Bill"

Well Bill had crabs in High School. He was 20 yrs old before he dropped out of 10th grade. He worked in a hospital as a laundry tech. He had crazy fetish that involved Dial soap and Zircon encrusted tweezers. His mother saved newspaper clipping of him. He was not Lather, but he was Bill. He one day was viciously attacked by a monster dog with rabies. He died. "

" while you're contemplating your rebuttals of my racism, KNOW THIS:

at 6 pm tonight I am attending a funeral---For a decent, religious,
help-the-world man who was killed in his home, most likely by an Oppressed person!

My niece by marriage, daddy's little princess, the apple of his eye will say her final goodbyes.
Boo-Hoo for someone deserving, this 10 year old little girl !!!!
"

" the modern definition of "racist" is somebody who is winning an argument with a liberal…

thanks for the racism fun-I have found new websites that make my day-
try
vdare.com "

" AJ I dont need a catastrophe to learn humility. You think I havent struggled?
or made some bad choices? or took some wrong directions?
PLease..you live and learn!
BAD choices: loser #1 the HS sweetheart,2wks before wedding caught him with a 14yr old.
loser #2--caught him with "the sister"
loser #3-playboy of the year!

in 27 years my electric/phone/cable.etc has all been turned off atleast 5-6 times/ had 2 vehicles re-poed which I got back and pd off/First work comp case costed me 4yrs and 3 knee surgeries/latest work injury has costed me 5yrs and so far 1 surgery BUT overall, I didn't run to alcohol or think some "coke" would CURE my woes!
And I didnt run to the nearest state office to bail me out either!

Karl spoke of Quality aid, you dont think homesite, if you save XX they not only match but triple the amount for a down payment of a house. Thats not quality aid? Or the organization "moms with cars" that if you put up 1000.00 they give you reliable vehicle with warrenty for a year is quality? Or supplying you with a full scholarship to a college plus a monthly stipen while attending is not Quality?

THe truth is --its not good enough in their/yours eyes!!
your next rebut will be how will these poor people even get 1000.00--
flip burgers--I did at 15 they can too.

"

" AJ, I find it appalling that you would wish a catastrophe on anyone. What a sick mind. "

" "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
Now, now AJ, to wish a catastrophe on another is just plain mean spirited. Whew, as Americans we are entitled to our own beliefs (so far Dub Ya hasnt taken that away totally)and no amount of typing here is gonna change that. So wipe that seething saliva away and wash it down...;-> "

" TGIF !! Time to chill a bottle and ones soul! Proost to all the sore fingers for the below posts... "

" I hope some catastrophe does come into your life which causes you great hardship cm - you need the humility. "

" CM, I wish I had more time to try and knock some sense into you. I live in fear that our government is run by a bunch of crooked evil monsters, and they have sold you and many others a bill of goods about a fraudulent war on terror. It is ignorant people like you I fear. I have said that before and I hope I don't have to repeat it again. "

" cm, I mean this in the nicest possible way, honey--if there's a moron in this argument, it's you.
Please explain to me the painfully illogical route you took to attempt to compare two completely irrelevant sentences with the bias against Blacks in the Injustice System???
There's not even a way to compare the two. Please though--DO attempt to explain it; it allows me to at least ascertain a parameter for your definition of "moron". Moron!
Thank you for proving both your Racism, and the reasons for it, in pour previous posts.
"The typical white intellectual considers himself superior to ordinary white people....
what a total description of karl & Aj and Brew!"
Thank you as well for the compliments to myself and my constituents, and for also proving that this is indeed true; we ARE smarter than YOU.
And finally, thank you for showing your utter hypocrisy by using the adjective "typical" with regard to describing us, and juxtapose that against your self-righteous outrage against Barack's "typical white person" remark!
Oh, I'm just L-O-V-I-N it!!!!! "

" Who the heck is Erin Meyer's? That might be why they left it out. "

" this is so true, karl & aj:
if we could honestly discuss how the world works, we could use that understanding to draft policies more likely to achieve the goals of the American people.

So why do the pundits lie? the liberal whites who run the media don't actually care much about blacks or other minorities. Nor are they consumed by White Guilt.

They're not blaming themselves, just other white people, ones they already despise. What they truly care about is claiming social superiority over other whites by demonstrating their exquisite RACIAL SENSITIVITY.

The typical white intellectual considers himself superior to ordinary white people....

what a total description of karl & Aj and Brew!


"

" bias in the (In)Justice System???
ARE you for real??
you think whites are favored by judges?
PLEASE!
Why does a white male in FL get 27 yrs for child molesting and a white male in NY get 1-3 for FATHERING a child with a child under 15???? where is the BIAS in that?
probably because FL is more Oppressed than NY for the states involvement of slavery!!!???
moron! "

" BTW, cm--can you read???
"The stats are just higher with blacks"???
Did you even read my post about the inequity and statistics of the drug war and drug usage statistics? "

" Boy, you just said it all, cm:
"ts a personal thing-but if YOU were directly wronged by someone or something you would take offense to it.
Simple human nature!"
NO KIDDING, SHERLOCK!??? Hmmm...does that illuminate the discussion here any with regard to Blacks' attitudes toward the White community--especially regarding the bias in the (In)Justice System??? "

" cm, make sure you go out and get yourself a trophy and a bottle of champagne to go with that self-congratulatory soliloquy you just gave yourself there...sheeesh; what FALSE PRIDE!
And what the hell kind of drugs are you on to opine that "the karls & ajs feel are simply done for being poor and having "intense memories" of being slaves/indians masacered/genocide/war"
HUH?!?!
Show me where I said or even inferred that?
You've obviously got your "issues" with your sister's dating choices-thank you for giving us all a window into the reasons for your racism. It is enlightening.
As far as reparations go, I agree it's a bad idea. But to live with the fantasy that "everyone has choices" is just another way to pat yourself on the back with false pride.
The REAL question is--what are the QUALITY of those choices?!
You need some humility and compassion, cm.
"WORD!"
"

" FG correct!
Nowhere have I said there are not some whites acting the same as blacks--the stats are just higher with blacks!
I have alot of PRIDE obviously more than a sister.
When I redo a much needed repair on my "moneypit" I PLAN! The sheet of paper comes out-a list is made-a trip to Lowes to get pricing-then I start buying one item at a time. When I have all my items-which may take months,now its time to gut and redo! When it is done I could do a dance over such excitement!!!
When I visit her in NY, they are popping beers and toking in the basement, all complaining of what church or organization didn't GIVE them enough!
I do feel the GOOD, DO NOT get rewarded nearly enough!

I partly blame my dad, for she cried the crocodile tears and all-knowing he was supplying to her and the low-life beaus' habits he would give her the money, for the sake of the kids.
Where as I always heard "cm's doing good, cm/hubby have jobs, cm doesn't NEED like the "crybaby" does."
She wasn't even his pet she was the 2nd pet-the stories I could tell over the 1st daddys girl are even worse!!!!

I was so being discrimiated against!!!!

Its a personal thing-but if YOU were directly wronged by someone or something you would take offense to it.
Simple human nature!


"

" Short form version: Yes to Equal Opportunity, No to Affirmative Action. That's my position for the reasons expounded below. "

" Movedsouth-EXCELLANT!
I watch many news stations depending on the subject matter at hand, I like to hear the different views and then make MY own CHOICE!
The karls/ajs of the world live in Fear/denial daily and think all others are OUT to get them!
My fears are more realistic. For the US, its terrorism, nothing woke me up more than 9/11.
I have fears for my children/plus grandchildren and their futures. My daughters are at times gullible and far to caring. My sons are strong willed & protective.
In today's world, there is too much crazy violence! daily killings, rapes, child molesters, being murdered for your wallet when in this age, most rarely carry cash.

Most of these crimes, the karls & ajs feel are simply done for being poor and having "intense memories" of being slaves/indians masacered/genocide/war
HOGWASH!

MY sis that knows how to get 'free" everything dates blacks and has children with them too. Like Cosby stated, dads ARE all in prison, they have nearly no relationship with their kids, unless the kids visit prison (3 diff. ones)--WOOHOO quality time with dad!
I voice my "strong opinions" to her and her friends TO their faces.
Stop whining "IT MUST BE NICE" that I own a home/camper/pool, 2006 vehicle with 2 others, take my kids on vacations to other states, and usually buy what I want when I want! PLEASE!!
We had the same parents, we had the same schooling (almost,she dropped out)
We had CHOICES!
I happen to choose the higher road and she/they happen to choose the low road.
In my high road I have worked my butt off, there are times when things are sweet and times when things are very sour-that's LIFE, deal with it!

Because YOU think I have it better-you CAN have anything I have.
Just understand that "IT MUST BE NICE" to have, mortgage payments, home insurance, home repair costs, home taxes, vehicle payments/registrations, repair costs, vehicle and health insurance/medical co-pays, vet bills, electric/phone/cell/cable/water payments, school supplies & payments for school trips, outside school activities, year-long vacation saving, birthdays & special events, and GOD forbid let some castastrophe come into my life & add more needed monies!
I am as real, fair, equal as they are-Yet I can't run to program "xx" for my needs!
Instead of calling me a "white snob" remember I give out just as much as I take in. I am the one who takes your children for summer weeks at MY expense, showing them a different way life, and where AMBITION/HARD work CAN take you!

I have no sympathy for Boo-Hooing anymore! "

" Very well said Karl. Thanks for putting up those statistics as I was going to and you saved me the trouble.

Brew, please don't say "everyone" here, OK?

"

" I don't know that I think we all have equal opportunities -- luck and being in the right place at the right time seem to play a role as well. I've known too many hard-working, diligent, persistent people who did NOT get lucky and who, despite education and efforts, have NOT done well in life due to circumstances beyond their control.

That said, we are all still responsible for making the effort or not.

There is not a race, ethnic group or other subdivision of the human race on this planet which has not oppressed or abused another group at some time in its history. Having been oppressed in the past is not an excuse to turn around and oppress the descendents of your oppressors in this era. Two wrongs do not make things right.

It was not right when a black person was denied a job, or acceptance to a college or a promotion because of his or her race. It is no more right that the best candidate, if that person is white, should be denied the job, acceptance or promotion because s/he is white. Reverse discrimination is no more right than what was done before and creates more problems than it solves.

It's been many years since I read Stephen Carter's book against Affirmative Action, but I'll see if I can dredge up the main points from my memory. I agree with him completely that a job, a scholarship, a promotion, etc. should go to the best qualified person regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. If you are a person in a previously oppressed group, and you get a job, a scholarship, etc because of your race, how does that make you feel? If you have any honor at all, it makes you feel like you got something you didn't deserve, like you would rather be able to stand proudly knowing you were the best candidate because of who you are inside as a human being, not because of the color of your skin on the outside.

Furthermore, it gives a basis for racially-based prejudices among the population at large, who look at blacks who are able to advance and assume they only got there because of their race. Again, if I were the black person who got ahead, I would want everyone to know it was because I was a hard worker, talented, qualified and the best candidate available -- not because someone was given me a guilt-driven perk. I'd want my PRIDE, not a gimme "prize." Giving out prizes based on race just creates resentment on the part of those who don't get the perk and robs the perk-getter of his or her rightful pride in the accomplishment.

Yes, punish businesses which discriminate against minorities, women, etc. But reverse discrimination has not solved any problems, but has perpetuated others and created new ones besides.

The worst I have seen was in an education professor, now deceased, who told me that it was our duty as educators to teach white children to feel guilty about what their ancestors did to minorities. That is one of the sickest things I have encountered in my life. To think someone was teaching teachers to teach ANY child to feel guilty about who s/he is makes me furious.

NO CHILD -- black, white, hispanic, native American, Asian, whatever -- no child should be made to feel bad about who he or she is based on the ethnic or racial or gender group to which s/he belongs. The children are not responsible for what some people did generations ago. They are not even responsible for actions of their parents. Teach children to feel good about who they are and to treat others with kindness and respect.

Likewise, I think reparations are bull. It's the way politicians play the guilt card the same way they sometimes play the race card -- for political advantages. Reparations do nothing to correct wrongs done in the past. The truth is, wrongs done and done and cannot be undone and nothing we can do today can change that fact. If one person himself is guilty, then let that person pay. But as a group, if our ancestors did wrong, we are not responsible for that. We are responsible for how we behave today. Again, kindness and respect are the key things.

My mom, who was originally an English teacher (in case you hadn't guessed - my dad taught Math and English until he went into the computer industry in 1969), later worked as a baker in a cafeteria in the Detroit area. She worked with mostly African American people, many from poor neighborhoods in the City, but she also worked with some middle-class, educated types of both races. And I went to Wells with any number of African American women. What I've observed myself is that race alone is not the determining factor in the sort of behaviors that MISSY and cm describe. Among many of the workers at the cafeteria, you could tell they had a totally different culture -- that's what made them different, sometimes almost incomprehensibly different. Their rationales for unwed mothers having babies at 15 and 16 to different fathers -- my mom told me how a couple of the girls explained it to her -- it made sense to them, though it'll still never make sense to me. (It had to do with proving themselves to be independent grown-up women). Contrary to popular opinion, she found that the guys who had fathered children in this fashion were devoted dads who spent more time with their kids than a lot of suburban middle-class white dads we knew. It was all just very new and different in terms of culture. Yet it wasn't race-based, or not alone, because the black women with whom I went to school had a culture and value system very similar to my own.

Personally, I think there are huge divides in this country based more on income levels than race, though I don't deny race plays a role too. Study the rural white poor in this country and they have a different culture than the urban black poor, for example -- and they are both very different from middle class folks no matter what race. I'm not passing judgement and saying this one is better or that one is stupid, I'm just saying that the cultures are very different. We tend to believe that everyone is "like us" -- and I think this leads to a lot of misunderstandings, judgements and prejudices. But artificially trying to force change by imposing what is a discrimination against members of the group which formerly was unfairly dominant is not a solution.

In my humble opinion. "

" You are all a bunch of racist bigots. And a duck is a duck. You should be ashamed of the hate you are spewing and the stereotypes you are using. I can only hope that you are not residents of Auburn as you bring shame to my home town. "

" movedsouth, you haven't a clue about equal opportunities.. Get real. "

" Pentangelli, I don't usually shop at walmart, but I thought I saw a Chinese principal on isle 7, going for half-price when I was there last.

Couldn't understand him, but walmart will give us our money back if he doesn't work out.

I know you'll get this pent, but I bet the others don't. "

" Sorry, cm, I'm spending my money on this war. You'll have to wait your turn. Hahahahahahahah. "

" CM, missy, movedsouth, you are pathetically ignorant. Do yourselves a favor and spare us from your nonsense, please.

"

" Missy K--first of all--your family heritage is German, French and Irish.
Bottom line, honey--YOU'RE CAUCASIAN! You are WHITE! So spare me any inspirational stories of how your family "busted their humps" because unless your skin is BLACK, you don't know jack about the hurdles of being black in a country as racist as ours is...
What's that? You want proof?
The fact that we're having this conversation about the issues in the news right now is proof enough.
Secondly, I recognize all of your attempts to steer this conversation into tangential subjects like affirmative action but this subject started after our resident Obama hater said that "blacks so monolithically vote for candidates that favor abortion, homosexuality, open borders."
Oh really?
Well if that wasn't the stupidest thing I've heard on here in a long time?
But what was worse was that the Citizen's editors treated it as if the city's Black population didn't read the Two Cents section--and so I'll ask again--CAN YOU IMAGINE IF ANYONE ACCUSED WHITE PEOPLE, CATHOLICS, OR ITALIANS OF BEING SO POLITICALLY SPECIOUS?
Of course then we get all the nascent racism bubbling up from all the subtly racist people like movedsouth and cm and Missey whose Racism is so camoflaged and intrinsic that they don't even see it for what it is--you guys cloak it in the new "hip" fashion of decrying Black people under the all-encompassing ruse of "personal responsibility"---as if repeating that mantra just absolves the onus from being racist because it ascribes a "reason" and "motivation" for it which sounds on its face, "reasonable"
Listen up, people. I see you clearer than you see yourselves. The fact is, there are JUST AS MANY crack-addicted, lazy, feed-off-the-system WHITE and Caucasian people as there are black feeding odd the system, taking your tax dollars, sitting on their fat bottoms eating twinkies!
Do you know that many statistics show that WHITE people consume FAR MORE illegal drugs than do blacks?
Have you ever really researched the undeniable bias in our system of "justice" against blacks? DO you know that the Federal studies show whites constitute 80% of the USA's drug users; Black people, 12%. Yet 43% of those convicted of drug trafficking are black.
According to Newsweek, proportionately fewer black teenagers use drugs than do whites or Hispanics.
The New York Times reports that although Blacks represent about 13 percent of the total population and 13 percent of those who are monthly drug users, they are 35 percent of those arrested for drug possession, 55 percent convicted for possession and 74 percent of the total serving sentences for possession.
In six California counties independently surveyed in 1995, 100% of those
individuals sent to trial on drug charges were minorities, while the
drug-using population in those same counties was more than 60% white.
Now listen up people--you know what all that prison time results in in the black community?
Lost school time.
Lost jobs.
Increasing dependency on welfare.
Less fatherhood.
More kids being raised in one-parent households.
Higher divorce rates.
Less stability in black families and households.
More teenage pregnancies for lack of role models, ie, more babies born into poverty.
It's a vicious cycle.
There is a well-recognized bias in the so-called "drug war" against Blacks. Research it yourself.
I'm not extending a big "pass" to slackers or system abusers--no matter what color they may be. But to pat ourselves on the back for having "risen above" while we're comfortably Caucasian just makes me a little bit sick to my stomach at the self-congratulatory self-righteousness of it all. Phleeeeze!
Or go on living in your own little fantasy worlds about every Race having "equal opportunity" if it helps you sleep at night and makes you feel good about yourselves.
Unfortunately, I'm a little more realistic about the injustices and difficulties.
Let me ask you guys something--how many young black men might be inspired to dream big dreams if Obama were to succeed to the Presidency? How much might that inspire the Black community to look at itself and hold up a mirror?
Here's a parting shot for you to consider--when people say that "America's not ready for a black president"--it's because of people like YOU.



"

" Karl, in regards to your post 3/27 11:02 am, what a jerk you are! Do you not believe that we all have equal opportunities if we put forth the effort? I really don't know why you call us racist. Maybe it is you! To criticize one for the news stations they watch shows ignorance on your part. You have no idea of my work relationship with blacks, some good, some bad. Bad when one brings a stolen gun into the work place. Maybe he was oppressed! brew, saying the first lie out of a racist mouth is "I'm not a racist" is like saying how can you tell when a lawyer is lying, when he opens his mouth! If the confederate flag remark was directed at me, bite me. That was an uncalled for remark from your buddy karl. Listen and understand WE ALL HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES, SOME CHOOSE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND SOME DON'T. "

" That's right...maybe we should go to Wal-Mart and see if they have a sale on High School Principals....If you are unwilling to pay higher prices, you'll get "cut-rate" administrators. As in many occupations, the leaders often determine the quality of the work and therefore the end product. "

" forrest they did do a study a few years back ! "

" In 1995 my hubby applied for a Postal position-he took the exam and scored the highest of all who took it at that time 94.8%--BUT the first set of jobs went to those who scored below 80% they were blacks, women, and other minorities!

Is that fair to someone who doesn't have a police record, never did drugs, went to college AND served 10 yrs in the military holding the highest security clearance for his level?
NO
But instead of boo-hooing about how HE was DISCRIMINATED against, he got a different job! "

" MISSEY1941 well said!!!

I totally agree with it all.
I know a few blacks families that ARE very hard working and have the best behaved children that have outstanding morals and values..
THEY are NOT the ones BOO-hooing!
They are the Cosby-like families who really do have dreams and turn them into goals.
unlike the majority-who really doesn't know what true starvation is!!

I am Indian and Italian--I certainly don't blame what's happened to my previous generations of family members on those of TODAY!
if I ever finish this genealogy project-I may find that my great/great on the Italian side stole the great/great on my Indians side land-and the my greats Indian side in retaliation scalped my greats on the Italian side.

Either way I'll sit back and enjoy the monies Karl, Brew, and AJ plan to pay me!
thanks-guys-how so gentlemanly of you.. "

" AJ, we all choose our path in life! Don't give me that, Oh, I'm black, that's why I can't make it. Get a job like the rest of us did. I worked for what I got, if you do the same, maybe you won't post this crap. We all have equal opportunities, we have to go after them. As long you feel oppressed, I can see no future for you. Get over it, we ARE all equal. In 1963, I spent over one year trying for a job I wanted. I delivered papers at age 11 and was never without a job since. I got fired from 1 grocery store and another hired me 2 mos. later. They heard the reason and understood. If you can't get a job and succeed, it's your fault. Don't play the race card! "

" The Auburn Fire Dept. is going to be the straw that breaks the camels back! The city spends thousands on studies for this and that, how about a study on paid drivers and volunteer fire fighters. Combine the volunteer fire depts from Sennett, Owasco,Fleming,Etc and add Auburn as a volunteer dept. I'll bet you get a lot of digrunted taxpayers joining. "

" movedsouth -- you can do a search on "Two Cents" using the search box at the top, then pick the previous date -- which was 26 March, I believe. There you can see any comments posted after your last one and before today's began.

I have comments on the race/racism issue, but no time at the moment -- will check back in tomorrow, schedule willing. "

" My lord I do my yardwork a couple of evenings and I come back and there is this flame war going on. All about slaves, Huck Finn, and Aunt Jemima's Pancake Syrup. If this country elects an "African-American" as a president, I do believe there will be a heap more to it than writng here. Karl, does Joey know how you feel about Obama? hmm...
I will get back to my yard and let everyone type daggers at each other. Kind of makes good reading. oh, btw I did see Waa-Ha posting, too. Didn't want you to go unrecognized! "

" Karl with a K Missy1941 has your number.

There are people that are racist and there are those who are racially aware. "

" Ninety five thousand is not that much considering the schooling necessary is about 12 credits away from getting a doctorate degree. And to boot, you are responsible for how many children and teachers every day? Along with after school activities/sports/dances that they often attend, I think that might be slightly low for a fair wage. "

" It's called P O V E R T Y and
D I S C R I M I N A T I O N. Get it? Of course not. Hardly a level playing field, even with the programs that have been put in place for them, which are bare minimum at best.

I'd love to see movedsouth, missy, and cm have to live the life of a black person growing up in poverty.

Yes we have come a long way from the days of slavery, but I wouldn't propose that's saying much, there's still a long way to go.







"

" If the city didn't have 3 firehouses
there wouldn't be enough beds,so
the men wouldn't get Good Nights
sleep!!!!!!! "

" On the surface 95K for a principal seems like a lot. But those in the know realize that there is actually a major shortage of certified school administrators now. If you don't pay them well, they quit after a year and take a better paying position somewhere else. That's why if you look in the classifieds there are constantly school districts looking for principals.

BTW- The Christmas Tree Shop actually has a lot of great deals. "

" Karl
While I am at it. I am German, French and Irish. My family in europe would all have been considered serfs(slaves)in the Middle Ages.Does that mean that I have a claim on those countries?
My relatives came to this country when there were no social programs. They busted their humps,died early, so that their famlies could survive. They asked for nothing except the opportunity for a better life. They worked hard and each generation was a little better off than the one before.
I have visited 38 countries and our poor,would be considered rich in many of them.
Free food, free medical, almost free housing, free education, college grants for the poor, minority business opportunities,low and no interest loans.
Yes they really have it tough.
Go to South East Asia,Mexico,Aferica if you want to see real discrimination and suffering. So Karl don't lecture me. "

" I just wonder who all these wannabe Marxist commies are here in Auburn.

Here we go again!! lol..... "

" Just a question. I don't know when they change the two cents, I would like to see if Karl responded to my post as to what MY beliefs are. Is it possible to check back? I think he was out of line and would like to check his response. "

" Bill Cosby was on Oprah 3/6
with his new book "Come On People"

1. 1/3 of homeless are black
2. 12% of the general population is black; BUT 1/2 the prison population is black.
3. 28% black born today will go to prison.
4. 50-75% high school blacks are drop-outs
5. 70% of black babies born today are from single mothers-children without fathers.
6. Black youth are 6 times more likely to die of homicide than white youth.
7. leading cause of death among black males ages 15-29 is Homicide.

Blacks people condemmed Bill Cosby for what they thought "he was airing their dirty laundry in front of whites"

Cosby states blacks need to STOP with
"It's NOT what he's doing to you, It's what you're NOT doing!"

Bill Cosby states the facts and states the truths, maybe YOU and Orchard st, and James st, and Wall st, and Brogan Manor, and the rest of the BooHoo-er's should read the book! "

" PS
There are many fine black famlies that have taken advantage of many of the programs that were in place to help them get into the middle and upper middle class. My comments are not directed at them.They are directed at the people who think just because their skin is a different color, we owe them a living. "

" exactly why no one can move forward--with thoughts of this country owes those they oppressed?
oh yes lets continue to cry over what is done is done and well LONG AGO OVER WITH>>>
and the blacks don't cry boohoo-all we hear is I'm black you're white so you're a racist. I didn't get the job because you're racist(not that my police record should have anything to do with it-or I failed a drug test!)

I am not singing about what a "N" you are BUT oh lets take that word out of Huck Finns book-school kids should not read such talk but
OH lets listen to it from your car or on the Awards shows!
WHO is disrespecting themsleves because their great great great great great great grandma was MAYBE a slave?!!!

Show me the stats on white crying Boohoo and the blacks crying Boohoo!??

Even Bill Cosby is telling HIS kind to stop the Boohoo and get off your butts and be parents and decent people!
because I agree with Bill Cosby I am racist?!

"inflame and incite simpletons" exactly, it raised your cat a tad higher didn't it?



"

" Who is and why are you wondering when we're going to get a Christmas Tree Shop? Save your money. "

" Karl
I only watch CNN.
I was in the service with many black people.
I am a Democrat, but I think over the past 40years we have done a lot for black people and it is now time for them to quit blaming everyone but themselves for the way their life is now.Women with 6 kids by 5 different fathers. Single mothers left because the fathers don't think it's macho to use a condom.
Get off your high horse and live with some black people for a while before you dare lecture me.
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