" Happy 21st to my daughter! can you believe she expects her parents to buy her a "legal" drink at dinner tonight?
Plus bring presents! lol "

" FG,
I see karls point when people do not take responsibility for their pets. Or move and leave their 6 cats behind (which happened right next door last summer).
I just had a conversation with my sis in GA-she has 3 acre home, and more cats, dogs, chickens, and now a goat that she cannot possibly take care of! She's an animal lover and when she hears the word POUND she thinks they will all be put to sleep. People are also always dropping pets off near her home, POUND is evil in their eyes too!
"

" Boy you guys are sensitive about your cats. I was being facetious. I guess a little humor does not go well in this forum. Lighten up a little. "

" Sounds like cm's neighborhood has a pretty effective "Neighborhood Watch!" ;-) "

" Exactly, Nature,
I see this 15 minute ideal being abused in many ways! more neighborly wars and wasted police calls-just what Auburn can do without!
I agree an overly dog barking, hours on end can be annoying yet odds are it's neglected or something is wrong. The neglectors are the true violators.

In my neighborhood-EVERYONE has a dog,usually more than 1 (I have 3), if one dog barks they will all bark.
Also being in a out-walking-after-dinner area you will hear each dog bark as the "strangers" pass their fenced yard!
Yet as neighbors do--if one is barking non-stop we take a look, for this is NOT the norm with the dogs in our area.
That is a plus for neighbors!

"

" Yes, QT, PB5 = Bedrock. What the PB means? the 5 means five points. Bedrock was fun wasnt it?

If I am not mistaken brew was being facetious about cats on a chopping block.

This new dog law is creating alot of yipping when basically it boils down to #1: the poor dogs left tied out as if they were not living creatures. There was one in this 'hood but the people were so scary, u were afraid to do anything. And #2 of the law is leashes (oops did I spell that right? lmao) goes both ways the vicious dogs who attack, such as our poor Barney suffered or cute dogs running around that can get dognapped or hurt somehow. I applaud the law in its entirety except I feel it can and will be used for neighbor war. But isnt that what Auburn is getting to be? "

" I always like to hear that the groups who work with feral cats are on the job. It means they are getting enough donations and skilled veterinary volunteers to do an important job in our communities. People who complain about feral cats would do well to make a donation to one of these groups.

I bet you could make up for almost all past disagreements with Karl if you could get that vet van to take care of the cats living near his house, LOL!

Some breeds of dogs have a powerful mothering instinct. They use German shepards to mother big cat babies (lions, tigers, etc) in zoos when the mothers reject them.

We had a German shepard when I was first married who was the most loving animal that way. She'd lick the kittens so their hair stood up like little punk rockers, and she'd even very gently pick them up with her big teeth and help the mother cat put them back in their box when they were at "that age" when they could get out but Mom-cat wasn't ready for them to do so.

One of the kittens would crawl up on Duchess' back and curl up in the fur on her shoulders and sleep. They were inseparable until Duchess passed away. That was long ago (1990), and the kitty has long since come to her end as well, but we have memories and photos -- and new cats besides! "

" Yes Fg we do take off the bells, for the cats safety too. He may need to NOT be heard! Especially since my cats are both indoor and outdoor cats.
One cat will sit on my van, One sits on the roof, the 3rd likes the trampoline, and the 4th mostly stays indoors but heads out once every 2 wks for about 3 days-he stays on the roof of the shed!

We have strong laws on outdoor cats-they must have shots and be micro-chipped or the owners are fined 500.00 the first time and 1000.00 the 2nd time!
I have seen animal control around with his meter checking if they are micro-chipped!
A block away there is a totally wooded area-with a large clan of feral cats, the clan has grown smaller due to a group that comes to the area and spays/neuters them. If they are sickly they are taken to the pound and put to sleep.
The VET mobile is fully equipped to do the surgery and place the animal back in their "homes".
This program is all VOLUNTEER ! "

" Sorry brew cats are/can be very loving-and much easier to take care of than a dog.
I have 4 cats-rescued all of them. 2 were 4wks old and 2 were 2wks old. I think the younger you get them at the better loving they can be, if you spoil them like I do!
The last 2 kittens, I had a dog with pups, she would let them nurse, she would clean them, and they slept with her. 2 yrs later they still cuddle and play with the dog as if she was their mom!

"

" Gator -- I am far from being an expert in finances! I do know a bit about dealing with being in debt, and now I am learning about getting OUT of debt, which is a happy change after living hand-to-mouth so many years. I'm not above being educated on the subject and was not insulted. Thanks.

Of course, cm, it's not the DOG'S fault it's barking. It's the owner's job to see to it that strangers are checked out, or that the dog is put out somewhere s/he won't be seeing strangers which worry him/her.

And you can clip that little bell off the cat's collar (I always do -- it's not natural for a cat to have a bell and it often bothers the heck out of them). Of course, I live in the country where no one gets bent out of shape if a cat follows its natural instinct and goes hunting. There are so many mice and moles and such, that mostly the cats don't go after birds much, though once in a while they'll get one -- sick or elderly, I always figure. My best hunter is a sweet tom who has post traumatic stress from abuse from a previous owner, who also had his toenails torn out (that's how they do it), which almost always causes a cat psychological problems. I don't know how he does it, but he brings home his "prizes" regularly, toenails or no toenails. He's also come a long way from the easily startled and always fearful animal he was when I first got him. Nothing wamrs my heart like seeing him feel safe and relaxed enough to roll on the rug purring with his toes in the air.

Anyone know anything about a former Senator named Mike Gravel? I guess he helped put the Pentagon Papers into the public record, and is against the war and nuclear power and for universal health insurance and "direct democracy." He's speaking in Ithaca at the Workers Center on the Commons Monday night at 7 PM. First I've heard of the guy.... "

" There's a couple of programs on television, one is called the dumbest criminals and the other, outragest moments. There should be a section of this web site for the most stupidest comments,because brew1234 would win hands down. They should put a collar around your neck with a bell on it. "

" Isn't the dog doing whats in its nature to do-
-bark at strangers that are near his territory? "

" Any cat with a bell on his collar should be on the chopping block. "

" I actually saw the reason their is the dog law right on the corner of Holley yesterday. Tied up and barking at everyone that came by. Owner did absolutely nothing! "

" What and where is PB5?
Albee Brunner.... Bedrock! "

" FG-Believe me I can relate to what you're saying. It frightens me the amount of educated people who just do not understand the world of finace. As an investor of commercial real estate I cannot afford to have my credit jeopordized, simply put I must know that when I need finacial backing it's there. Pleaase know I was not insinuating you do not know how to run your finances. "

" I just bought a new collar for the cat--it has a bell--
will they be on the chopping block next? "

" Is PB5 still open? I thought they closed and put the place up for sale because of tax issues...Cripes remember that place when Albee owned it?
"

" Mark -- if I lived near you, and your dogs were just chasing around playing and barking for joy, that would be a glad sound and wouldn't bother me at all! I just can't stand to hear some poor miserable animal tied up barking piteously for hours -- like where I used to live. The poor thing would go "bark-bark-bark [pause] bark-bark-bark [pause]" for hours and hours on end, usually all night as well as most of the day. I could see him out my window straining to try to get to his people when they walked back and forth beyond his reach ignoring him day after day. I called the Dog Warden repeatedly, but he never did anything about the poor creature. THAT'S what needs a crack-down, not happy dogs frolicking around their yards in the middle of the day.

You are quite right -- there has to be sensible application of the law, to do something about abused and neglected animals and their neighbors who are forced to listen to their suffering, and to NOT hassle responsible owners of happy, well-cared-for pets.

"

" brew you missed my point and thanks for being a moron. WE LIVE IN A.. let me spell this out... C I T Y! There are plenty of noises. Now we are worried my our dogs bark even once! It shouldn't be this way. Soon we all will need to speak under a certain dB level. They should have focused more on going after the people who neglect their animals than pushing the laws on good owners. "

" I had one credit card and they raised the rate for no reason. I called and expressed my opinion, they said they would correct the rate. Shortly after I got one in the mail for transfers at 2.99 the first year and 1.99 after that. I don't use the card which has a limit high enough to buy a car! In 6 mos I will start using the card for gas and pay off every month. My other card is AE and pay off every month. This is what helps your FICO score. "

" farmer gal, my dogs enjoy playing with one another. and when they play, they bark as they chase each other around the yard. there are far worse noise nuissances to worry about in auburn. A. loud cars, B. loud kids at night C. PB5 playing loud music at 11pm at night D. loud music. if my dogs can't have fun playing in my yard then this town is a joke. "

" Gator -- I also learned (the hard way) that if you jump too often from one card to another, they will A) turn you down (I was turned down for having moved money from one card to another within the previous 2 years) and B) it will count against you that you appied and were turned down.

I do have one card that had a lower rate for a transfer, but they make me pay that lower rate portion off first while the higher rate portion accumulates interest and grows bigger while none of my payments are put against it. I have one to go and the low interest portion will be done, but that was another lesson learned.

Basically, they'll get you one way AND another. I'm sure this is why usury was illegal in the Middle Ages -- one of the few ways that era was better than our own! "

" "Veterans" not "troops" -- guess I "misspoke." "

" Airlines ...most of them now are adding 25.00 for a 2nd checked bag to help recoup the rising fuel costs,

when we purchase tickets we are paying extra surcharges for fuel costs with pricing based per airport.

Are we not paying 2ce for th same item? "

" Brew # 1 was a funny!!

reminds me of my dog who trys to "eat" the vacumn while barking her head off everytime it gets turned on! "

" Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum, er, I mean the Democrats AND the Reublicans, all those politicians in Washington and elsewhere, they ALL have their hands in the corporate and special interest pockets. That's not any kind of partisan behavior. Corporations and special interests OWN our Congress, regardless which party.

And it started a lot longer ago than 30 years. "

" If your dog is barking more than 15 minutes and you haven't gone out to see what's the matter, yes, you bet, you should be slapped with a fine -- not only because you are being a nuisance to your neighbors, but because you are neglecting your animal. A dog barks because A) there's someone out there who the dog feels shouldn't be there or B) because the dog is miserable and lonely, maybe cold and hungry too, or maybe he has gotten tangled in his lead. If you are going to have a dog, you have to be willing to put in the time commitment to taking care of it or you shouldn't have a dog.

telldastory -- thanks for letting us know about your friend who's about to ship out. Many of us who oppose the war have these folks in our minds and hearts daily and we hope and pray (depending on our religious/non-religious beliefs) they will come home safe and sound in both mind and body. Realistically, though, the chances are not that good. A larger percentage of soldiers come back with mental/emotional problems than come home healthy, not to mention those who come home physically injured, or who don't come home alive ever again. It makes us mad because we don't believe for a minute their sacrifice is for a just cause.

Credit cards: Alas, Gator, I have played that game before and know how to carefully read and interpret the fine print. I read and re-read the last couple of these offers and it was very clear (though ONLY in the fine print) that the bank was reserving the right to change the interest rate at any time for NO reason -- not because you used the card for something else, or had a late payment or anything like that, just at their own discretion.

Takes us back to the campaign of the Attorneys General of each of the states and their work to protect us from such things being undermined by a Federal Agency, the OCC, which is supposedly supposed to be protecting us, but instead is protecting predatory lenders.

Anyone else get to see Obama talking with the troops yesterday? Clinton had a session with them too, but I was in a meeting and couldn't listen. (I can put that in a browser window in the background and listen while I work, which is nice, but not while I'm in a meeting). He does handle himself well, though he also supports continued and perhaps increased troops in Afghanistan. None of the candidates are sufficiently against the whole "War on Terror" tripe for my liking. I can see we have to pull out carefully, but I still think, the more quickly we can prudently do so, the better. There is no winning a war on terror. Your best bet is to better defend your own borders and work to have better relations with the rest of the world, or if you can't, then stop trying to control their governments and let them kill each other but leave us out of it.

Maybe I am becoming even more cynical than I was before, if that is possible! "

" Since all this "total influence" began 30 years ago--when the DEM's and a congress full of DEM's held offices in Washington--what does that TELL you?

tells me..it is DEM's who are the money hungry/liars/cheat the working man/be bought by corporations,
DEM's who had their hands into the "industry" to fill their pockets with the tax-payers dollars only for THEIR benefit..
"

" #1 you would be subject to a fine if you mowed your lawn with your dog and he was barking.
#2 if you cancel unused paid off credit it lowers your FICO score. Basic Suze Ormand 101. "

" Here is a link to a much better quality Orwell Rolls in His Grave video....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4467655342219448521 "

" Instead of webbing some U-tube techy put-together site heres one that is factual....

http://americanmemorialsite.com/victims.html

God Bless and go with Pride men & women of America! "

" Contractors In Iraq were being killed long before the war started.
They choose to work there and they put themselves in danger. They do it for NON-taxale money, contracts pay anywhere from $350 a day to $1,500 a day.
There are more contractors in Iraq than soldiers! approx 160,000 with only 14,000 being Americans.


"

" It's apparent that you never even heard of Orwell movedsouth, so consider yourself lucky today.

Past is prologue, movedsouth.

Orwell Rolls in His Grave - video
has a great soundtrack:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1925114769515892401

EISENHOWER ADDRESS...

The conjunction of an immense military
establishment and a large arms
industry is new in the American
experience. The total influence -
economic, political, even spiritual -
is felt in every city, every
statehouse, every office of the
Federal Government... In the councils
of government we must guard against
the acquisition of unwarranted
influence, whether sought or unsought,
by the military industrial complex.
The potential for the disastrous
rise of misplaced power exists and
will persist... We must never let
the weight of this combination
endanger our liberties or democratic
processes. We should take nothing
for granted... 1961

IKE WAS RIGHT - SO WAS ORWELL - WAKE UP!!!! "

" Perhaps you can point out to me where I got it wrong here and not you, movedsouth. It's been a long day for me, so maybe I missed something, but I don't think so. I was not referring to Auburn/Cayuga county/property taxes as you said, but our federal income tax. You are aware of the difference, right?

And you STILL haven't answered my previous questions.


movedsouth wrote on Mar 24, 2008 4:24 PM:
" AJ we fought for freedom so people like you could knock our country, FREEDOM OF SPEECH! "

AJ wrote on Mar 24, 2008 5:57 PM:
" Tell me, movedsouth, just how is it that you ARE supporting the troops, besides your tax dollars (as most of us do)?

And what does the current war/occupation have to do with our freedom of speech?

movedsouth wrote on Mar 24, 2008 6:43 PM:
" AJ I support the troops, the taxes you refer to are in Auburn and Cayuga County. If the war is the major cause of taxes, why do I pay $2500 for a place assessed at $260k? What do you pay? Freedom of speech is what this country has always fought for. Where would you rather live? "

AJ wrote on Mar 24, 2008 7:29 PM:
" Movedsouth, RE taxes, half of our federal income tax goes to support a corrupt, hugely expensive, and largely unncessary military establishment and imperial foreign policy. More than half of your federal income tax go towards this. THINK about that.
"

" AJ
I think you should be at the ARmory tomorrow and tell all the soldiers and their families to their faces that they are paid mercaneries or are you to coward?
suicidial bombers are NOT innocent people-more cowards!
Terriorists hide among the women and children --more cowards!

maybe Iraq is your hometown or where you were meant to be! big "C" "

" FG-I would not be so quick to discard the offers you're receiving on new credit cards. The rate is indeed "fixed" providing the amount you transfer does not change. Let's say you transfer a balance of #5000 to a lower interest rate card. Provided you do not make any other charges to that card your rate will not change, unless of course you default on a payment. Even if you are notified your interest rate has changed it will not affect what is currently on the card. Now if you make more charges it will affect the entire balance. Now you may consider keeping your higher interest credit card for small emergencies but but this can often get someone in trouble because they run the card up again. A prime example is my JC Penny's Mastercard, I have a 4.99% for the life of the loan, which simply stated means as long as I never use that card to charge hotels, etc my interest rate will never change. It also means if I make purchases at JC Penny's for out of town family I will have to pay those charges off first before any money goes to my 4.99% loan. The problem with a variable loan is they are usally tied to the prime interst rate, etc. Personally I have no allegiance to any credit card company and jump to whoever is offering me more for my money. Not implying you are this type but many people forget to cancel unused cards which will affect what interest rate they are offered, they think if they don't use the card it isn't on their credit anymore. If you are not doing so already may I also suggest you take advantage of the reputable companies that offer a free credit check to ensure there is not something that may affect the rates you are being offered. "

" AJ, listen, I was talking about local taxes, NOT FEDERAL, do you hear me! You can bring everything into war, but respond to the post. Yes, at the end you said you don't know why your taxes (LOCAL) are so high. That is what I was talking about, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? Orwells 1984, live in the past, I prefer the present. And if you think Canada is better NOW, please go there. When they get as bad as the USA, you can find another country. BYE!!!!!! "

" Surprising there are many comments on the 'war on terror' today, yet there is no mention in the papers that several more of our local men & women are shipping out to Afghanistan TOMORROW from the Auburn Armory. One is a very good friend and I wish him and all the others well and will keep them in my heart & thoughts until their safe return a year from now.

I wish that ending this war was as simple as who gets elected President in November. The 'terror' now is hoping they come home safe and sound and not an empty shell of what they once were. "

" Movedsouth, RE taxes, half of our federal income tax goes to support a corrupt, hugely expensive, and largely unncessary military establishment and imperial foreign policy. More than half of your federal income tax go towards this. THINK about that. Not only that, this war is also part of the reason your dollar does not buy as much anymore. They are printing more money every day, which devalues the dollars you have, and prices continue to rise.

Maybe you're fine with that. If you agree with our foreign policy it tells me you know little about it besides what the evening news and the corporate press in general feeds you. I suggest you read Orwell's 1984 - we are living it now.

You still haven't explained how this war/occupation has anything to do with freedom, and how you are supporting the troops more than others.

I honestly would rather live in Canada. But the globalists have their designs on Canada and it is not all that far behind the US in corruption, so it's just a matter of time unless people wake up.

You're paying about what I am paying in property taxes for a place worth 3x more. Taxes are unreasonably high here, and frankly I do not understand how they are justified. But at least the money is not spent on killing innocent people.
"

" Thanks telldastory, I would not have known our people were leaving for Afghanistan if it were not for you. I guess know where the local paper comes from! We have an armed service that is of people by choice, to not respect them is rotten! I would bet some of these people that post did not welcome home our heroes! "

" AJ I support the troops, the taxes you refer to are in Auburn and Cayuga County. If the war is the major cause of taxes, why do I pay $2500 for a place assessed at $260k? What do you pay? Freedom of speech is what this country has always fought for. Where would you rather live? "

" Tell me, movedsouth, just how is it that you ARE supporting the troops, besides your tax dollars (as most of us do)?

And what does the current war/occupation have to do with our freedom of speech?

"

" Surprising there are many comments on the 'war on terror' today, yet there is no mention in the papers that several more of our local men & women are shipping out to Afghanistan TOMORROW from the Auburn Armory. One is a very good friend and I wish him and all the others well and will keep them in my heart & thoughts until their safe return a year from now.

I wish that ending this war was as simple as who gets elected President in November. The 'terror' now is hoping they come home safe and sound and not an empty shell of what they once were. "

" So... The new dog "law" about barking more than 15 mins or you will get slapped with a fine. Ok... Does this mean I have to mow my lawn in 15 mins? "

" In reply to "Again I say, we live in the greatest country in the world, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!"
Yes we Do support our troops and Yes it is the Greatest Country in the world.
After having Bush it justs go's to show in America any Idiot can be President and the Sheep are gullible enough to elect him to office twice. "

" AJ we fought for freedom so people like you could knock our country, FREEDOM OF SPEECH! "

" Karl, I did not say I support the war, BUT I DO SUPPORT THE TROOPS! blah, blah, blah, and all that! Listen to what Obama says! "

" Dan W's post there just goes to show you that you can hit somebody square in the face with THE TRUTH like a wet fish, and they will still say "Ain't true!"?
Dan, really---smoke another bowl, why dontcha...?
movedsouth, if you like baseball, don't eat apple pie. It will make you fat, and you will need steroids like the baseball players use to get off your couch.
Oh yeah--support the troops, oppose the war, blah, blah, blah, and all that... "

" If you want to support our troops, I would think you would demand the war be ended and they return home, movedsouth. Othwerwise you're just parroting a meaningless slogan.

How is it that keeping an illegal war going which benefits a small handful of elites that results in our troops being killed and innocent men and women being slaughtered supporting our troops?

This war has NOTHING to do with supporting freedom, for either the Iraqis OR Americans. When are you going to wake up to the facts? "

" When you come across ANY website, you should do a little evaluation on the credibility of the information found there. Go ahead and cross-check the facts for yourself.

For howsoever foolish he was in his personal relations, I doubt if Spitzer published an editorial publically attacking the OCC without first checking his facts. But if you don't trust them, double-check them yourself instead of just bad-mouthing blindly.

It wasn't a U Tube video, and the text of Spitzer's editorial is available from the Washington Post, for starters.

In this particular case, the legitimacy of the facts have nothing to do with the prostitution case -- they can be verified independently.

The point is that the decision to go after this particular politician for his bedroom hankie-pankie when so many politicians are undoubtedly just as guilty was politically motivated and had the effect of covering a much more important scandal by drawing attention elsewhere. In magic, they call such a maneuver sleight-of-hand. "

" Dan, I don't recall the video claiming that he was setup with hookers. Is that your mind playing tricks on you?

"

" Karl, have you ever heard of baseball and apple pie? America loves baseball!If you don't like other sports, don't fault other people's sports. If you want to cut and run from Iraq, so be it. I don't know if you support our troops, BUT I have to believe you support freedom. Again I say, we live in the greatest country in the world, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! "

" Good points, brew.

I get those credit card transfer offers in the mail. I saw that the variable interest on one of my cards had gone up more than I really want to pay, so I was reviewing to see if any of these offers were better than what I have.

In big letters on the front, and in the text of the letter the offers say "FIXED RATE!!!" But there's an asterisk. Looking at the tiny print, there's notice that they can change the "fixed" rate any time they want! So, how is that a "fixed" rate?!??

Thank goodness for my decent job, and that I've paid down my debt and hope to have it gone within the next 2-3 years, tops. It must be a nightmare for people with modest salaries or on fixed incomes. How can people be blamed for "not planning better" when there are these predators out there pulling the rug out from under them this way? If you make financial plans for your future based on your earnings and your understanding that a fixed rate is fixed, then the creditor suddenly boosts the rate to double what it was, how is that your fault that you can't afford your debt? It's just not right, neither what the predatory lenders are doing, nor those who are so judgemental towards people in debt. "

" Yes, thanks FG for that great link. I had forgotten about that site.

Did you check out the War on Terror is a Fraud link while you are there? I haven't looked at it yet, but as I recollect the site is very credible, and I can guess what they bring up.

Anyhow, the Spitzer thing is very troubling, but not surprising given the current administration. They make Nixon look like an amateur. You know things are really bad when you almost wish that Nixon was back in office rather than the scumbag we have now. "

" Just watched the U tube video. Just because its on u tube makes a story true??? YEAH RIGHT. I suppose the OCC fixed up Sptizer with the hookers at 5,000 bucks an hr. Have some more kool aid "

" The OCC is waging this war on consumers in the credit card industry also. Credit card companies are holding back payments to collect late fees, changing contract terms at their whim, declaring default on a credit account that is completely up to date because another credit card issued by another lender is in default and the list goes on and on not to mention rates as high as 35%. The same attorney generals are fighting these abuses against consumers and are being stopped by OCC. The OCC says that this matter is theirs to regulate but they do nothing. As John Mellancamp says "I fight authority but authority always wins." "

" If you count soldiers who come home with PTSD or other anxiety disorders and kill themselves (and/or others), you can up the count of war dead even more.

I believe suicides among recent veterans is higher (percentage-wise) than for any previous war. "

" OH MY GOD!!!
If there was ever any doubt that this government is a bunch of CRIMINALS AND THIEVES, LET THERE BE NO MORE DOUBT!
PLEASE, people--watch that link video clip that Farmer's Gal posted!!!!!
It is a reading of the complete text of Elliot Spitzer's editorial about the way that the Bush Administration protected the profiteering mortgage lenders against the AMerican people!
I'm emailing it to every single person on my email contact list!
WATCH IT PEOPLE!!!!!!
And "thanks" Farmer's Gal!!!!!!! "

" If you count the bodies of the people who were injured on the battlefield, yet died elsewhere, the numbers would most likely be triple.

Then of course you have the contractors and mercenaries that are not counted either, so we're up to at least 10,000 as a conservative estimate.

This creative death accounting happened in Vietnam too.

As they say, the first casualty of war is the truth.

But hey, KBR and Halliburton are making a killing, pardon the pun, so who cares? Right, CM? "

" I don't care to watch any sport on TV..
I would rather go in person.

I agree many PRO's have let their greed shame them from the true spirit of the game.

I do miss watching my boys play little league, the best games are from the tiny t-ballers, they are the funniest to watch!

"

" FG, I heard about the Spitzer thing too.

I definitely have an issue with Spitzer's hypocrisy as well, but I have a bigger issue with the hypocrisy on the other side. It does seem to me that this was a politically motivated hit.

And what about the Don Siegelman case?

The US is beginning to look more and more like Stalinist Russia. "

" Karl, you forgot the part about standing around waiting for your turn at bat, standing around waiting for the pitch, standing around on a base waiting to run, standing around in the outfield waiting for a ball to come your way-- Snnnnorrrre!

I like excitement in my sports, but I can't abide loud noise -- no motocross for me. Or jet skis, ATVs or snowmobiles. Heck, I make my kid run the vacuum cleaner. I've been known to listen to hard rock -- with the volume turned down, LOL! I get bored watching race car drivers go round and round in circles too, so to each his own. Lots of people are bored by football, but for me, this is the long, dull desert season from the Super Bowl until September. "

" 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq today, people!
Vote for McCain and we can make it 40,000, people!
WAHOOOO! "

" Our most recent previous governor dug his own grave by making himself the public crusader against vice and corruption, then indulging in it himself. Talk about hoist-on-your-own-petard! Hypocrisy is a killer, but I am quite sure Spitzer is far from being the only one in politics.

However, I just ran across some info that makes it look like there may have been other motives behind his being singled out to have his private skeletons let out of the closet.

Three weeks before the "prostitution scandal" hit the media, former Governor Spitzer published a letter in the Washington Post about a scandal which directly affects a lot more Americans than Spitzer's own personal escapades in a hotel room.

Let's talk about the OCC vs. all the Attorneys General in the United States in their bid to protect home-owners from predatory lenders. Let's talk about who benefits from Spitzer being backed down from his campaign, along with other states, to pass laws to protect the people. Who benefits if the predators are protected?

Worth a peek:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/291.html "

" We should save the taxpayers some money and leave Steve Netti's seat unfilled until the election. Actually, seeing as how the govenrment ran so fine without him during his illness, they have proved that they do not need all those do nothing legislators and should eliminate most of them. Especially when you look at how much money is being spent to man the County Manager's Office. "

" Baseball.
Hmmmm.
Let's examine that.
Steroids.
Whining crybabies crying about not getting paid enough to PLAY A GAME!
Did I mention STEROIDS?
Pitch. Catch. "BALL!" Spit. Scratch. Pitch. Swing. "FOUL!" Stare. Spit. Scratch. Pitch. "BALL!" Walk. Rinse. Repeat.
YAAAAAWN!!!
(Did I mention steroids?)
You want excitement in the spring? Get up to the local motocross track and watch the thrills and competition!
AND NO STEROIDS!!!!!!!!
"