" The "Winner's Circle" turned into "The Chicken Corner" LOL! "

" I ost power here too for a few minutes.....must have been an "Act of God"! LOL! "

" what happened to the winners circle "

" Strange! west end and east end of Auburn incl town of Owasco lost power for a few minutes just prior to 11am - wonder what happened? "

" I went to the Shortstop once-the man (Kufs) mostly yaked about sports.
Since then I have not heard of him or heard any mentions from family and friends that still live there about him.

maybe Kufs is not as well known as he/Karl thinks he is! "

" The shortstop? Isnt that where all the illegal gambling took place in Auburn? "

" Visually impaired persons can use reader software to access the internet, and a braille keyboard to type. It's not an area I know well, but I do know such things exist. I went to Wells with a young woman who was their first (and perhaps only) blind student. She came back for Reunion one year, must have been around 1995 or so, and was telling us all about how exciting it was for her to be on the Net with her reader software and braille keyboard -- and that was more than 10 years ago.

Where there is a will, there is a way, even to communicate in a totally visual forum such as online.

BTW, it may interest you to know I have lived in this area for 25+ years, and I've never heard of Billy Kufs outside this forum, nor ever read anything he has written. I dunno, Karl, maybe his influence is more limited than you'd think? "

" Thank you Pete V, finally someone who knows what they are talking about. Karl obviously has a bone to pick with Billy. Its clear that most on this thread dont really know Billy. Several of my friends and I spent much of our young 20-something years @ the Shortstop (like our fathers did) and I always struck up conversations with him on a wide-varay of topics. And eventhough some of his beliefs and views seemed out of whack to me, his reasoning was insightful, intricate and detailed with facts unbeknown to me. Hurrah for Billy, always "keeping it real" despite what others think! "

" PeteV and longboard--words have power. Words shape opinions. Opinions motivate actions. Hatred based on ignorance informs opinions, which translates into hate crimes and people being dragged from the backs of pickup trucks and lynched on fence posts.
I have no problem with a Hitler/Kufs comparison. I'm not bothered by the problem of "degree" of hatred and misinformation perpetrated by both of these loudmouths, just the fact that they both possessed not only misinformation and ignorance of Truth, but they spread it through the media, which for some people is enough to "confirm" their own latent prejudices and bigotries and possibly act on them.
I didn't know Kufs was blind; had I known that, I would not have invited him into the forum. My mistake.
But I don't feel that I've taken any "low road" at all. Hate speech is hate speech. Whether you are the powerful head of State and have the power to implement your hatred into policy, or just a small-town demagogue, the potential to hurt and cause harm to people with your words--particularly if you CAN speak with intelligence or eloquence--is exactly the same, IMO. For that opinion, I make no apologies.
And for the record, I did actually speak to Kufs on the phone, and listed information and sources to inform him of the fact that Homosexuality was an intrinsic condition, not a "choice"--and he continued to spread hatred and bigotry of it. THAT to me is unrepentant bigotry. I can respect a man who tries to improve, educate, and inform himself. I have not seen that impulse in Billy--and that makes me genuinely sad. "

" Karl- You obviously disagree with Kufs because of fundamental differences over his ideology particularly on the issue of homosexuality. But to doubt his intellect and compare him to Hitler (who is a big gov't socialist that Kufs hates) is absurd. To ask him to join this forum when he is totally blind. Geesh! You are off base here.

I once even asked him about you and he said even though he disagreed with you all of the time he respected you. Your slams are unfair. He is a hard-lined conservative and you should applaud his lack of apathy like most in this town, agree or disagree. Think about that. I am ashamed of you taking the low road here. And I made this post, not Kufs. "

" Kuffsy, insane?

Yeah, I think that may be accurate. He certainly doesn't seem too sharp, at the very least.

"

" Comparing Hitler....to Kuffsy. Take a step back champion and REALLY think about what you just said there. I dont think Kuffsy killed millions of innocent Jews. Kuffsy is opinionated, not INSANE! "

" longboard, Hitler was a very intelligent man too, with opinions as well.
Kids may not know who Kufs is, but they can still read his words, see his bigotry and be affected by it.
"Intelligent" is not a word that springs to mind regarding Billy. Having battled him in the editorial pages on many occasions, I can attest to his ignorance and erroneous and unsupported opinions-masquerading-as-facts on many issues and occasions. Not as bad as DuCayne, but close... "

" and BTW, you 2 make me laugh...keep it coming and continue to entertain me! "

" Karl and Stevedallas....did you guys call eachother and write your responses together? I dont think ANY kids in Auburn know who Billy Kuffs is you dolts! And it figures you get turned on by tool box Karl...wierdo! I bet u2 have never even sat down and talked with Billy regarding politics, social issues, economic stimulus plans, etc. I have, and believe it or not, Billy is very intelligent and well informed. Yes, he has his opinions about things, and hes entitled to them just like anyone else. You call him a hate monger, take a look in the mirror u2.

"

" Yes I are! "

" LOL born-in-bklyn, i c u r celebrating grammer day.... "

" i would read an opinion from billy kufs any day than anything from murray lynch. at least bill believes in working for a living and actually contributing to the system that murray condemns even though it pays his bills. "

" Aah! spring sports aar aliv and wel! Verry funnny! "

" The Match Anticipated 'round the World:

Not the Sharpest Tool in the Shed
-vs-
Karl 'The Tool Box'

Check your local listings for times...

rotflmao "

" Speaking of election BS, how about this?

United Technologies has been seeking to purchase the Diebold Corporation. Wouldn't that be something, a huge military contractor counting/controlling our votes? Not that it would be much worse than under Diebold, but the conflicts of interest are greater.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/31505

"

" P.S. I've never been called a "tool box" before....it kinda turns me on, in a "Home Improvement" kinda way.... "

" longboard--"jealous"??? What are you still in high school?!?
Billy Kufs is the Rush Limpbahhh of Auburn--a hate monger who is as ill-informed and prejudicial as he is a sad spectacle. Whatever he is or does in his spare time interests me not--it's the poison of his words and the ignorance he spreads to uninformed sycophants like you that causes me concern for the future of Auburn and its youth. "

" once the election BS is over the paper will have the room to add in accident info--afterall we know they are saving trees by using less paper! "

" Ah March, football season is over. Nothing but months and months of, well, nothing much. Baseball? (Snore) Basketball? (Eeh, take it or leave it) NASCAR? (I can't see the appeal of watching cars drive around in circles for hours) Golf? (More snore) Well, I can always go out and watch the coverage of the presidential primariers....

BTW, today is National Grammar Day (I kid you not). "

" Hey longboard315, "he has a tv show and you dont! hahahaha! " What are you 13? I watched his show once and it was enough for me! Andy Bishops show years ago was even better ! "

" I agree about the no accident coverage. I remember over a year ago a semi truck with the trailer and all trying to go down Seymour by Fulton. Wanted to see what happened, but there was nada in the paper. "

" Karl aka THE TOOL BOX; I am not Kufsy! And get off your rants on Billy. From the sounds of it, it almost sounds like jealousy on your part. And yeah, he has a tv show and you dont! hahahaha! "

" longboard--"Don't hate"?!?!
Why not?--Billy has done nothing but spread hatred and bigotry through his letters and television show.
What's good for the Conservative goose is good for the Liberal gander. "

" since I dont know Mr Lynch's info, why would he need to give back 1200.00? "

" thanks
born-in-bklyn
for the informative link!! "

" Wow, what is going on in this town with young teens? Headlines of another 14 yo!! with arson for that house on Mann St. Middle schools and their parents seem to be lacking in discipline. Scary. "

" Dont hate Karl L.....Kufsy rules! You must NOT of been a patron of the Shortstop! A bar where a man can go right to the cooler and help himself to a cold one and with the honor system leave a few bucks on the bar while Billy sat in his recliner and watched the Sox games! "

" Thanks, born-in-bklyn, for the cancer stats site. I am slogging away at a mind-numbing budget report and haven't time to do in-depth research (though I need periodic breaks to keep from losing my mind).

I took a quick peek at 12-15 counties in New York State to compare their cancer rates for men and women per 100,000 -- and it looks like Cayuga County is about in the middle of average. You'd have to take down those figures for every county, add them up and calculate an average to be sure, but the numbers were middling for the random counties I checked all over the state.

A more thorough way to get a full picture would be to do that same exercise historically, and compare rate of change and not just across geography.

But I'll leave that to the statistics buffs out there. I have enough numbers of my own to crunch today (back to it....) "

" Another shameless plug for Billy Kufs by...none other than Billy Kufs, I'm sure. Hey Billy--why don't you ever get in here in person and trade cyberslams with all of us "Liberals"? "

" Kufsy! Please bring back THE SHORTSTOP TAVERN!! "

" A great website for all different types of cancer rates: http://www.health.state.ny.us/statistics/cancer/registry/vol1.htm "