Pioneer Restaurant saga continues

By Kathleen Barran / The Citizen

Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:45 AM EST

SENNETT - A packed Sennett Town Hall, despite the inclement weather, learned a hard lesson about zoning disputes - the devil is in the details, not only regarding the letter of the law but also its interpretation.
The town of Sennett Zoning Board of Appeals continued a public hearing on Tuesday to consider the appeal of RyBach & Rig Properties LLC challenging various interpretations of the town's zoning ordinance and local laws. But there was little opportunity for public comment as the attorneys weren't even close to concluding their presentations.

The hearing actually began on Dec. 13, when Scott Chatfield, representing Pioneer Restaurant building owner RyBach and Rig, maintained that his clients had complied with zoning regulations. He presented their case over four hours but did not finish.

He was to complete the presentation at the next meeting.

John R. Langey, of Costello, Cooney, and Fearon, represented the town, while Donald Cheney and Thomas Blair represented code enforcement officer Paul Weiman.

The next meeting, on Jan. 24, was supposed to be a public hearing, but was postponed to Tuesday in order to allow a more thorough review of the minutes and tapes. At that time, ZBA chairman James Lent, indicated that the board had some 60 days to arrive at a decision.

But Tuesday, Lent said there would be no decision. Blair said the town had 62 days from the hearing's conclusion to decide. Meanwhile, Weiman's lawyers would probably need another hearing to finish their arguments.

Chatfield spent much of the time examining what the zoning laws did not say, sometimes moving into the area of semantics, for example, defining the word “restaurant.” He repeatedly described the Sennett's zoning laws as “unusually liberal.”

“Zoning goes agains the common law right of the landowner to use his property in favor of benefiting the whole,” Chatfield said. “Zoning board language must be strictly construed in favor of the landowner. If you don't specifically prohibit, it is permitted. Ambiguities must be resolved in favor of the owner. ”I consider this a relatively straightforward, simple issue. “It all hinges on one overarching question - whether or not a non-conforming restaurant can undergo changes in operation without constituting a change in use.”

The issue of whether the new owners would use the property for a purpose other than a restaurant came up when they added outdoor seating, a drive-up window, and an area on the second floor for video games in a space for children's parties.

They appealed three decisions made by Weiman: the requirement to have a site plan, approval by the ZBA for outdoor seating and a drive-up window as non-conforming use, and whether the restaurant had lost its non-conforming use status. Chatfied maintained these decisions were not supported by the town's ordinances.

Chatfield said his clients, John Ryan, Gregory Rigby, and Mark Bachman, were allowed to expand their property up to 50 percent for a non-conforming use, which would include the outdoor seating as long as they didn't exceed that percent. Chatfield admonished Weiman for “reading into” the ordinance. He read various correspondence previously exchanged between Weiman and his clients, trying to pin down why he made some of the decisions that they were appealing.

“What was the reason you had for thinking that the concept of outdoor tables and walk up serving windows were a change of use?” he asked Weiman.

“I had known in the past that the tables and window weren't available,” Weiman said. “It was a service that wasn't provided before.”

“It is Mr. Weiman's interpretation that is the issue,” Chatfield said. “The reasons for his opinion are the very crux of the argument.”

Letters written between Weiman and RyBach & Rig were examined in detail, with Chatfield pressing Weiman to justify his conclusions by returning to the zoning ordinances.

To retain rights to a non-conforming use, they were required not to stop operating as a restaurant within a year after acquiring the property. During the building's renovation, problems with the foundation delayed construction, so owners opened the business for a day in order to keep its restaurant function. They began to sell hot dogs, but were ordered by Weiman to close after a couple of hours. The health department did an inspection and issued no violations.

Chatfield insisted that a March 15 site plan that his clients submitted to the town board to get a variance from the town-declared building moratorium was unnecessary

Chatfield's clients acquired the landmark restaurant for $235,000 on Nov. 1, 2006, and invested an additonal $500,000 to renovate it. The original restaurant dates back to 1928.

Staff writer Kathleen Barran can be reached 253-5311 ext. 238 or kathleen.barran@lee.net

The Citizens' Say

There are 14 comment(s)

NY 2 PA wrote on Mar 2, 2008 8:36 PM:

" I lived in Skaneateles until moving to a buisness in pa. I remember what the old Pioneer looked like in '05. In Feb 2008, I was up to visit and saw what they did and i must saw it looks GREAT! I wish the best for the new owners and hope they can get up and running soon. "

tlb4 wrote on Feb 28, 2008 11:07 AM:

" Once again the owners and developers of this property are local residents who have lived here the majority if not all of their lives. They have chosen to invest at least .75 million dollars in the local area and economy and bring back a failing business.Because of their strong local ties they certainly will do nothing with this business that would adversely affect the surrounding residents. Sennett please be a little progressive,and stop hassling these business owners. "

GiveMeLiberty wrote on Feb 28, 2008 9:20 AM:

" O'Bryan productions was shut down. Eventually a deputy came and ordered them to close shop, sent the (1 or 2) employees home. Rudderow and O'Bryan went out of business. Their house was for sale for a while, I don't know if it sold.

If you are leaving Auburn heading north on RT 34, they are the house on your right on the corner of turnpike road, next to the flashing yellow light. The shop is the small building closest to the corner. Drive by there and ask yourself who could have been bothered by 3 or 4 guys hard at work at table saws, planers and lathes inside that humble building.

O'Bryan Productions was the the perfect example of the American dream. A dream shattered by politics. "

brew1234 wrote on Feb 28, 2008 12:05 AM:

" So they are allowed to continue a business that for one reason or another closed. So the zoning only permits them to fail? "

what is up wrote on Feb 27, 2008 10:57 PM:

" This is exactly what is wrong with NY (Auburn Area)It was a restaurant before, what if the previous owner wanted to renovate, This is the way restaurants need to adapt. Lascas a high end restaurant just put outside seating on the side of their building. Maybe people shouldnt have built houses right next to a restaurants property! I said to my wife when the new owners started the remodel, I bet the houses near will complain, Hmm, seams to true! I live in sennett not too far from there and WHAT AN APPROVEMENT!! They should be thankful the place is cleaned up now! The complainers should have bought it and torn it down, Last i knew i thought this was america, This is the way it seams to go! I remember not to long ago local poloticians voted no to a casino that wasnt even proposed yet, just rumors.. ha, what an empire state we live in,, Good Luck, and I'll be one of the first customers!!! "

logic wrote on Feb 27, 2008 10:15 PM:

" Route 20 corridor is residential-agricultural- preexisting for the Pioneer in this zoning is original use with an increase of no more than 50%- the neighbors in the residential-agricultural didn't buy into drive up windows, outside dining (music?)-
This is not Grant Ave.- it is a residential area- a sitdown restaurant like the old pioneer- is acceptable-

Skirting the zoning laws- as is being done here can only lead to future problems in other areas-

Most towns have zoning to protect- Sennett is just trying to protect the character of the neighborhood-

It is not us vs. them- it's them trying to take off more than is practical and allowed- "

PENTANGELLI wrote on Feb 27, 2008 8:22 PM:

" THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET A PERSON MAKE A DECISION FROM THE SEAT OF A JOHN DEERE....CUT THE MANURE, WEIMAN "

ballsymf wrote on Feb 27, 2008 6:47 PM:

" Why is weinman being such a ****? Is this a personal vendetta? "

sloane peterson wrote on Feb 27, 2008 6:46 PM:

" Sennett code enforcement should stop needlessly impeding this business and concentrate on a couple of the neighboring homeowners that treat their property like a garbage dump. At least that would be constructive. "

Unknown... wrote on Feb 27, 2008 6:30 PM:

" So what did become of O'Bryan Productions ?? (this question arises from reading the link provided by Give Me Liberty) "

nature lover wrote on Feb 27, 2008 3:16 PM:

" If code exuded this much effort towards the crappy places this would be a beautiful area. The new owners renovated the old Pioneer beautifully and should be allowed to open as they would be a tremendous asset. "

GiveMeLiberty wrote on Feb 27, 2008 2:56 PM:

" Anyone remember this?

http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/02/18/news/local_news/news04.txt

More Sennett zoning gone awry. "

tlb4 wrote on Feb 27, 2008 1:32 PM:

" This is an example of why the business climate in CNY is needlessly difficult. Here you have local residents willing to invest in (their)our community and the local municipality does nothing but create difficulties. We are talking about an attractive business ( at the very least a visual improvement over the old Pioneer eyesore)offering a family oriented restaurant to include a place for birthday parties, family gatherings and fun. Let's also remember that the building's updated tax assesment will add more $$ to Sennett's coffers. "

Unknown... wrote on Feb 27, 2008 12:10 PM:

" This is such B.S.
Good thing this isn't Skaneateles, they would have torn it down by now. "

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