Two Cents

Friday, February 8, 2008 11:33 AM EST

The Republican record --- Reagan: dirty deals with Iran, sales of weapons to Iraq, star wars, air traffic controllers dirty deal. Bush: stolen elections, 9/11 lies, weapons of mass destruction lies, no bid contracts to Halliburton, billions missing, waterboarding, domestic spying, billions given away in Iraq, tax giveaway to rich, price of gas, stock market crash, loss of good jobs.



Oh yeah, John Salamone was great. The firemen loved him -- must be someone that wants a great contract wrote that Two Cents item.

I thought a few years ago when I got my driver's license, there was something in there about pulling over and yielding to emergency traffic. Apparently, that isn't so in this day and age because I've seen so many young people that don't do that.

A person who did nothing to bring POWs he knew were in Vietnam with him home doesn't deserve to be president.

Anyone who says the Second Amendment doesn't pertain to honest citizens doesn't deserve to be president.




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Farmer's Gal wrote on Feb 13, 2008 10:09 AM:

" For those who bust my chops for my focus on communication skills, (like nature lover), those of you who claim we can all understand everyone's posts even with typos and bad grammar: Tell me what the heck this person means:

"how do i get my school districk to come for my area tio post or show on my page?"

"districk" is clearly a misspelling of "district" and "tio" looks like a typo for "to" -- but even so -- can anyone tell me what this person is asking? How does one get a school district to come for my area? Come where? What?

This is a real post from another page of this paper. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Feb 11, 2008 7:44 AM:

" I just have days when it gets to me.

And though the meaning was clear enough in my example, we've had more than one poster here whose point did NOT come across because the person's communication skills were so poor that the meaning was utterly jumbled.

But to more interesting things: The other day I lost a train of thought when I couldn't find a quotation I wanted to illustrate a point. I've found my quotation, but the train has left the station. It was something about the Founding Fathers and their attitudes towards privilege and the special interests of the wealthy and powerful of their day. The quotation is from James Madision:

"[Elections] ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority."
(From the Federal Convention of 17887)

I know that was an eye-opener when I first read it.

Well, Mr. Madison has surely had his wish come true. Those who were wondering how our government came to be so much under the control of wealthy special interests groups, particularly powerful corporations, need look no further -- that problem has been built in from the beginning, expanded upon and become firmly entrenched.

The only way out is to go back to that other source -- the Declaration of Independence, and remind ourselves that the right --and duty-- to sweep away corrupt forms of government is also ours. "

stevedallas wrote on Feb 11, 2008 7:17 AM:

" Were you trying to imply that you are as wacked as britney spears? "

jlmorgansr wrote on Feb 10, 2008 10:28 PM:

" lol,,,,, and I did it again! "

jlmorgansr wrote on Feb 10, 2008 8:04 PM:

" Farmers Gal, do offense taken. Sometimes, I'm typing away so engulfed in my train of thought that I miss the typos. It isnt until after the message is posted that I see the mistakes, and sometimes I laugh at them, and sometimes I cringe at them. But at least I am sending the message that needs to be sent "

movedsouth wrote on Feb 10, 2008 3:30 PM:

" Why do some people get a refund from star program because their taxes are low? I can understand helping pay your high school taxes, but I don't understand giving money when you don't even pay school taxes. But I guess that's why taxes are so high in NY. "

karl L wrote on Feb 10, 2008 1:20 PM:

" hillbilly--great idea about the driver's licenses! I wonder if it would work? Actually, you'd probably just have a lot more teens and young adults driving without them and filling up the courts--but I do agree that it would be an interesting experiment? "

nature lover wrote on Feb 10, 2008 12:55 PM:

" FG, honstly noone realy cares about your typos or anyone elses exsept u it sems - we get the pont when erors ocur. Sometimes you do go off the depe end with your corectionz when noone realy cares. This is a lowlee local blog that realy has no long term valu adn many sem to just holer at each other anyway so when a typo or gramatecal eror ocurs - lighten up a tad. lol "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Feb 10, 2008 10:15 AM:

" P.S. That means I am not a perfectly Christ-like person, because I haven't as much bad grammar tolerance as I strive to have. {double wink!} "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Feb 10, 2008 10:14 AM:

" "Other side of the aisle" not "other side of the isle," unless Cayuga County has suddenly become surrounded by water and I just missed it.

"Cries for reform" not "cries of reform," unless you mean the opposite of what I think you do.

Some days I just have bad grammar tolerance management problems. ;-)

I know they were just typos, (we all make them sometimes) and I'm not really busting your chops, but it makes a good example; that second typo completely reverses the meaning you were trying to get across, which is why I grumble so often about the importance of communication skills. Forgive me for singling you out -- I absolutely do not always agree with you, Mr. Morgan, but you generally write well enough we can understand your meaning. I was just picking on you to make a point about other posts I've seen here. Apologies for the gentle ribbing. "

Hillbilly wrote on Feb 10, 2008 9:25 AM:

" Karl I will take that two to one for $100,000.00. I bet President Bush does NOT pardon Bin Laden. AJ as for Republicans hating Clinton. I for one did not hate him and I did not think that he should have been impeached either. Yes I believe he lied to the Grand Jury but, I do not think that was an impeachable charge. The problem then Right Wing Nuts, the problem today Left Wing Nuts just look at Berkley, California. If we could get rid of the nuts we would be better off. As for taxes, they are to high. Why is this? Because politicians want to buy us. If I could tell you I could send your kids to college for free, would you be for it? That's what Spitzer wants to do for the Syracuse city school kids in this year budget. We, state tax payers in Cayuge, get to help pay for this. Why does he want to do this, to get the kids not to drop out of school. I think we should make a law that say if you drop out of school you can NOT get a N.Y. State drivers license. If a drop out gets a GED he/she would then qualify again to get a license with an additional one time $100 charge. Since drivers licenses are NOT a right, this would not violate anyones Constitutional rights. You just wont be able to use a car to obtain your freedoms. Besides when the Constitution was written cars were not invented. This way kids in school would have a motivation to stay in school and finish. It also would not cost tax payers any of their hard earned money or senior any of thier fixed income. "

stevedallas wrote on Feb 10, 2008 6:52 AM:

" this paper sucks!!!!!!!! post what i write!!!!! "

jlmorgansr wrote on Feb 9, 2008 6:18 PM:

" Wow Mr Pentangelli you should see someone about your anger management problem. For one I chose not to run for re-election on the school board. And for the record I was not crushing education. For that matter, alot of the allegations were made by those on the other side of the isle. Big money was and still is at stake. Besides Mr Pentuphostilities, we have thrown millions upon millions into the educational system since myself and my friends were on the board, and has things gotten better? Inspite of the millions we spend, we still have a drop out rate that is 2 to 3 time what it was when I was on the board. Inspite of paying JD Pabis the highest salary of any superintendent, we still have a school on the states failure list. And finally, why do you think the STAR PRogram was created? It was created because the State of New York recognized the problems facing the affordability of local communitites and their ability to pay the ever increasing school taxes. Yet inspite of STAR has spending decreased or even slowed? Not at all, we have sunk billions of dollars into a system that cries of reform. This is why we have deficits, and this is why peole are leaving. Million dollar fields constructed of TURF and half a million dollar concession stands has replaced teachers and education as a priority. In my humble opinion this is as backwards as it gets "

pentangelli wrote on Feb 9, 2008 5:01 PM:

" Leave it to Mr. Jerry MorGon to throw more dust in the air. The person we elect to the White house will be the one who will do us the most good, get us out of this "Bush created" national Debt nightmare and care for our elderly and health programs. Of course a person's spouse should never be included in one's decision making. Past performance has little to do with anything or Jerry wouldn't have been re-elected to the school board back in the days when he and his Neandrathal Ilk were crushing education in the name of tax relief. WHO WILL HELP US NOW !!! "

DD wrote on Feb 9, 2008 4:51 PM:

" The famous statement by AJ to everyone who disagrees with his opionion--"You just don't get it do you?" I think what we are all trying to say is that no matter your affiliation, if you are a politician, you are basically a scumbag in the end. I think we all agree on that. Do you get that AJ? Now lighten up Francis. "

jlmorgansr wrote on Feb 9, 2008 4:50 PM:

" Oh by the way do you condone what Sandy Berger did? Or do you believe he should have been arrested and prosecuted as a traitor for stealing classified information? Do you think he should have faced the same fate as the Rosenburgs? I do! "

jlmorgansr wrote on Feb 9, 2008 4:48 PM:

" Moi? Point fingers? At who? You? Clinton? Local Politicians? Local tax hikes? I will be the first to admit I have my prejudices, I despise homosexuality, I despise the killing of babies, and I despise those that would attack our way of life. As messed up as it is, it is still the best system in the world. You have the absolute right to voice your opinion and point your finger at those you disagree with without fear of any governmental reprisals. Now another thing, just because I said I hate killing babies, does not mean I will blow up abortion clinics or shoot the doctors, and just because I said I despise homosexuality, that does not mean that I would actively campaign to have them euthanized like Hitler did. So I get it, in spite of what you think you know about me. To sum up what I want, I want lower taxes, so families and retired seniors can co-exist and make this community prosper. I want solid neighborhoods, and excellent schools. I want jobs, I want our community to have a future. As it stands right now, more and more people are leaving the area because they cannot afford to live here and pay for the services we receive. So chill out AJ, because I think you want the same things. I encourage you to step up to the plate and make a difference. Because if you don't then who will? Maybe it will be someone who will try to take away the rights and freedoms we currently enjoy today. "

AJ wrote on Feb 9, 2008 3:54 PM:

" Chill out Jerry? Not on your life. As long as you and others like you continue to point fingers in such a hyprocrtical way. You just don't get it do you? "

jlmorgansr wrote on Feb 9, 2008 11:32 AM:

" You can debate till the cows come home as to who is or was the worst President we ever had, after all it is just an opinion either way. However, one person stands out in front of all others when it comes to treason in the Clinton administration. I am speaking of Sandy Berger. Here was a man that was stuffing his socks with classified material and stealing these documents for what reason, only he and the Clinton's know for sure. Were these documents damning to the Clinton's? I believe they were. Was this man ever prosecuted? NO! I wonder why? Maybe he was acting on the orders from someone higher up, only he and God knows the answer to that. So chill out AJ there is enough crap out there on everybody, no body has walked on water for over 2,000 years "

karl L wrote on Feb 9, 2008 11:12 AM:

" Let's forget about the Clinton record and move on from that--most of that was mountains made from molehills that didn't impact the country one whit!
Let's remember, in enumerating the manifest crimes and misdemeanors of the Republican Party, that this was the group that was supposed to "restore honor and integrity to the White House"--what a load of hooey!
The Republicans posed themselves as so holier-than-thou over the Dems and over Clinton. Now, I don;t mind so much a man who has honest failings, but blatant hypocrisy and outright lies that wind up killing people is a whole other ball game.
And AJ--just wait until Bush leaves office--two to one, he pardons Bin Laden himself! "

AJ wrote on Feb 9, 2008 10:57 AM:

" Clinton's pardons don't even begin to match those of the Bush's. What's your point DD? "

DD wrote on Feb 9, 2008 10:33 AM:

" AJ--they all resemble each other. No matter the agenda, they all fall into the self serving mode. ALL politicians are self serving types that are interested in lining the pockets of their friends which will in turn pay dividends to them. With regard to the negative comments thrown at Bush--I would like to throw in all of the pardons for the Clinton's criminal friends just hours before leaving office. Wasn't one of them a drug kingpin? "

AJ wrote on Feb 9, 2008 10:05 AM:

" Tome8689, I would agree that Clinton was/is a scumbag. What I don't understand is how so many republicans hated him. When it comes right down to it he resembled a republican more than a democrat. "

brew1234 wrote on Feb 9, 2008 12:30 AM:

" I hate when you pull over for an emergency vehicle and some idiot passes all the cars that pull over. "

tome8689 wrote on Feb 8, 2008 6:35 PM:

" Lets bring up Clinton and his dirty dealings with the Chinese, Whitewater,Perjury, removed from the Bar, failure to order the killing of Bin Laden, sitting on his hands when the USS Cole was hit,Lewinski and the theft of White House historical items. Everyone has skeletons in their closet! "

stevedallas wrote on Feb 8, 2008 4:11 PM:

" Anyone know whos paying for the new HR office to be painted for the 3rd time in 2 weeks? The pink color that it is now is nice! "

mark wrote on Feb 8, 2008 12:40 PM:

" Now I wouldn't single out the young generation of driver's for not pulling over for emergency vehicles - I see a very wide range of age groups not doing this. "

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