" The new HR office is on its third different color(Pink now)paint, and it looks like there getting ready to paint it again! Who is paying for all this paint?
"

" Ok, OK, I was typing in a hurry. Self-corrections:

hence, not "hance"

Britain, not "Britan"

bear, not "bare"

shows stupidity, not "show stupidity"

Hey, at least I spelled Nietzsche correctly!

"

" I read Hegel in German as well as in English for a philosophy class, but that was a LONG time ago -- you'd have to refresh my memory. Is he the guy who had so much influence on Nietzsche? (Well, and on Marx too, right?) What I remember is fuzzy at best.

Why do you ask?

Meanwhile, I hope no one though my digression into my opinions on female social interaction had anything to do with my thoughts on women being qualified for politics. As AJ and Karl have both pointed out, there have been women politicians who were just as bad as bad male politicians, and in just the same way, I might add, but there have also been good female politicians as well.

We can go back a good deal further for successful female rulers -- even before Elizabeth I (whose navy defeated the vaunted Spanish Armada and hance indirectly brought dark hair to Ireland), there were Amazons, there was Boudicca in Roman Britan, and I believe Penthasilea was a real historical personage as well. Joan of Arc was a successful campaigner, but died horribly at the hands of jealous and humiliated males who couldn't bare to live knowing a woman had bested them. I'm sure there were others too.

Eating apples is a bad choice! -- in that construct, taking the apple from Eve was an equally bad choice -- and show stupidity for being so gullible to boot -- does that mean then that men can't be President of the United States because Adam was so stupid? -- LOL!!! "

" karl L wrote on Feb 7, 2008 8:01 PM:
" AJ: yes, Hatcher was a "female Reagan"--a stain on her country, but no one messed with Maggie, that was the point I was trying to make.
In fact, chiggy, now that I think of it, I don't even want you using "man" after the "wo" in your sex, for fear that it implicates MY sex.
From now on, I dub thee a "wom-bat".
Wombat. That's it, yes. "

Karl, your post is definitely lucid and well thought out.

Yeah, Thatcher was a piece of work, to say the least.

Chiggybaby needs to learn a bit of grammar and spelling, agreed?

Chiggybaby, if you're reading this, be advised that your thinking and spelling need work. "

" AJ: yes, Hatcher was a "female Reagan"--a stain on her country, but no one messed with Maggie, that was the point I was trying to make.
In fact, chiggy, now that I think of it, I don't even want you using "man" after the "wo" in your sex, for fear that it implicates MY sex.
From now on, I dub thee a "wom-bat".
Wombat. That's it, yes. "

" By the way, chiggy: "womAn is spelled with an "A", for "ONE woman".
I'm sure that 99% of all womEn ("wo-MEN" = MORE THAN ONE wo-MAN!) would not want to be associated with your silly, self-hating hysteria!
"

" Has anyone else here studied philosophy and the Hegelian Dialectic> "

" And I might add, Karl, that Thatcher was a jerk. "

" chiggybaby, that is, bar none, the STUPIDEST reason I have ever heard for not voting for a candidate, PERIOD!
"Nothing but make poor choices as EVE has done"???
Are YOU SERIOUS?? What--she'll eat some apples in the Oval Office? Or do you mean she'll bring some WISDOM and enlightenment to it--something that has been NON-EXISTENT under Republican Administrations?!
The Netherlands has a Queen, along woth Great Britain (whose Pound is kicking our wimpy American dollar's Butt!); Germany has a woman leader, and Margaret Thatcher ruled Great Britain with an iron fist!
Farmer's Gal is right--you're a SELF-HATER! GET SOME COUNSELING!! "

" U know I agree wholeheartedly with u regarding the way woman respond to one another. Especially when there is enough to call a crowd. Another phenomenon that bothers me is people are there for you in bad times, why cant they respond favorably when times are good too and be happy for you? We have found that when its your time to have it go pretty good people seem to sneer. Mankind - we are a strange breed thats for sure. "

" Despite being the graduate of a women's college (an unparalleled experience which I greatly appreciate), I find that in general, women are pretty rotten to each other. A lot of it is jockeying around in their relation to men (esp. those in power).

The "backdoor" approach was the only one available to women for so many centuries that many have ingrained "behind the back" strategies for getting things done. I find it very disheartening.

In particular, I have always found it painfully trying to play sports with other women because of this behavior problem. (I've played with all-female teams, with otherwise all-male teams and with mixed teams). In general I have found that if a male on your team doesn't like you, he'll just run you into the ground, but at least you know where you stand with him. Females will smile and act all friendly to your face, then talk about you behind your back or trip you when you aren't looking. Women in sports are CATTY and live up to the stereotype, at least in my experience. Even on the football team, which was the most "masculine" bunch of women I've ever known all in one place -- there was flirting with coaches for favor, there was cheating against your teammates in practice to look better to the coach, there was b*tching behind each other's backs, there was scapegoating when things went wrong, there were cabals of intrigue with "clique" players against people they didn't like today. It really made me sad to see because there was a lot of talent and potential, but no coaching staff who knew how to handle women players to get the best out of them and contain those bad learned behaviors.

Many men complain that women are devious and game-players, but this has often been the only role allowed us through history. You either grow up learning to play it, or trying to avoid it, but you can't get away from its pernicious influence.

These are my opinions only, and I am making generalizations, not applying what I say to every woman who ever set foot on earth. But this is my own personal experience. "

" I have met Hillary on 3 occasions and I like her and hope she will win the democratic bid over Obama. I am not looking at him being black but rather I c him as green! As far as that asinine comment from chiggybaby, I have worked w/chicks that were like her. They ingratiate themselves to men by putting down other woman generally behind their backs. We called them man crazy. "

" FG, I think that is probably true of any 101 course. It's unfortunate that common sense isn't very common though....

"

" Hmm. Being the wife of an ex-president and a do-nothing senator for 7 years somehow makes Hillary qualified to be president and can turn this country around? Her only talent is running her mouth and telling people what they want to hear, then doing nothing when the time comes for action. She's a fraud, moreso than the other cretins running for president right now. "

" Stick, you might be right, OTOH, the powers that be may be compelled to project that notion, if those condidates aren't already pre-screened by and/or in the pockets of the elite.

"

" Chiggy -- I don't disagree (or at least not completely) with your assessment of H. Clinton -- I disagree, and strenously that the assessment has anything to do with her gender. "

" Whoever runs on the Republican ticket will win for 2 reasons. America isn't ready for a women president or a black president. "

" Oh I forgot, thats tonight ! "

" Dear Chiggybaby:
I am sorry that you have let your religion lower your self-esteem. If nothing else, Hilary Clinton is brillant. It is a matter of history that other major world players, including England, Israel, and India have thrived under a woman's guidance.
Your impassioned and hysterical posts irritate me. "

" AJ -- I think most the stuff one learns in Soc 101 is basic common sense. "

" I don't like Hillary Clinton because of her record, not because she is a woman. I am offended that anyone would still cling to such neanderthal notions that a woman could not do just as good (or equally bad!) a job as President of the United States.

If there is one thing this year's run-up to the elections has shown, it is that this country IS ready for either a woman or an African-American as President.

I still don't like Hillary, but it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender.

Karl, you know what's worse? I think chiggybaby IS a woman herself (though I could be wrong). Talk about the self-hating female....

vic -- I love your rule! I wish it were applied univerally.

The wrong way to use the "N" word: I disagree with you, your opinions stink, you must be a Nazi!

The right way to use the "N" word: The dictatorial powers President Bush gave himself when he signed the "National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive" on May 9, 2007 are frighteningly analogous to the way Adolf Hitler gave himself similar control in Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

How's that? "

" So who did long blame at the council meeting last night? "

" chiggybaby, I don't think you have to worry about that. Hillary doesn't seem weak to me. Look at her voting record.

"

" There is nothing that Hillary Clinton could do wrong that could match the crimes against humanity that Bush has wrought against the world. Hillary Duff could do more for our nation's image in the world than Bush and his cronies. What did you expect from her in New York. As a senator she could get you some pork barrel projects but I laud her more for not doing that. Economically your state government is responsible for development and high taxes. She is capable and can turn this nation around and remove us from bully status. "

" Karl L.... Let me set the record straight, I am a women, I'm not insecure or a sexiest!! I just value MY OPINION!!That's what this column is for? Isn't it!! What good has Clinton done for New York State? NOTHING at all!! I feel our country will be looked upon as WEAK!! What good would this woman do as President?? Nothing but make poor choices as EVE has done!! She'll open Pandora's box!!! Thats what she will do!! So Karl let us both work together on a grand shelter so man kind will survive!! "

" Chiggybaby, OK, I'll be nice and restrain my boil right now and ask you nicely--why is our Nation "not ready for a woman president"??? Please try to leave your misogynistic impulses and sexism out of it and try to post an intelligent-sounding and convincing argument without making yourself sound like a chauvinistic, insecure, sexist pig? "

" Please Americans,don't vote for Clinton!! Our nation isn't ready for a women for president!! If she is elected, I might as well start digging my family a fall out shelter!!I am a serious women!! "

" Wasn't Goodwin a Nazi sympathizer though? Just kidding. :) "

" Thx Mike Long, We didnt need the million anyway! "

" I believe its called Godwins Law that states that while having an argument the first person to compare the other to Hitler and/or a Nazi loses the argument. "

" Farmer's Gal wrote on Feb 6, 2008 1:29 PM:
" Isn't Soc 101 where you learn that is it not humanly possible to view the world from a perspective completely outside of your own cultural biases? That is to say, if you choose to work at it, you can do better than others who've never thought about it, but you can't ever totally escape your environment. In other words, we all view the world through "our system." "


Never took SOC 101, but you summed things up very well, as usual, FG.
"

" Karl, I would imagine the makers of Kool-Aid has had a much greater than average stock appreciation these past several years. Damn, I should have invested! lol... "

" Isn't Soc 101 where you learn that is it not humanly possible to view the world from a perspective completely outside of your own cultural biases? That is to say, if you choose to work at it, you can do better than others who've never thought about it, but you can't ever totally escape your environment. In other words, we all view the world through "our system." "

" Karl, I second your motion. No more invoking boogie men as an insult. People use the "N" word against anyone whose opinions they don't like, in no relation to real life or history whatsoever. It gets old fast. If you feel the urge to insult someone, how about something more creative? ;-) "

" AJ wrote on Feb 6, 2008 12:21 PM:
" CM, reading and investigating a lot won't get you very far if you're looking at garbage to begin with. GIGO (Garbage in, garbage out) pretty much describes the fundamental logic involved. It is critical that attribution and motive is always considered before you can make a reasonable judgement. This also requires an unadulterated understanding of history.

To say your beliefs are not dependent on the "system" is ludicrous. We are all victims of this to one degree or another and no-one is immune. Think about it! "

FG, exactly right!! "

" I propose a "Nazi Law" of my own--no more posts about "Nazi's" used out-of-context.
And why does Kool Aid get such a bad rap in this forum? IMAGINE IF YOUR MOTHER WORKED FOR KOOL AID! Oh, the HUMANITY!!! "

" If you research and always look deeper and deeper, you also have to be prepared to change your opinion based on the new information you come across. Snap judgements are NOT always correct, and in-depth research will often show you things you had not previously known or considered.

AJ -- Right again on the subject of why so many Muslim countries hate the U.S., though because of the influence of the AIPAC and other organizations in this country, you run the significan risk of be branded a "racist" for saying so. But those are the facts -- it's been our government's UNCONDITIONAL support for a country whose government is as flawed (and hypocritical) as any that has so inflammed so many Arabic countries.

As for innocents leaving the country because they "knew we were coming" -- that's patently absurd. First of all because the poor in such countries seldom have access to the kind of information that even the poor in this country do. Second, the poor cannot just pack up and leave their homes there any more than we can here -- and why should they have to, if they are innocents? Why are we destroying the homes of innocents? How does that make us better than those who take such actions against innocents in our country? From their perspective, and it's a perfectly legitimate one to a poor, innocent person living in a country such as this, we are the killers and destroyers, when we aren't just moving into their countries pushing our ways on them. And we claim to be so in favor of cultural diversity!!! What a joke.

The actions of the government (or terrorists the governments in those countries allow to be active within their borders) in Afghanistan, Iraq or Saudi Arabia are no more the fault of the innocents in those countries than the actions of our government which those Arabic countries justifiably resent are the fault of the people who died in 9/11. That's a wash as an excuse. "