Antique gun regulations cause worry

By The Associated Press

Friday, February 1, 2008 11:24 PM EST

SYRACUSE - A New York City lawmaker's plan to regulate antique firearms like other weapons could have severe economic repercussions for museums and historical societies around the state and prevent hundreds of living history events and re-enactments staged every year.
If passed in its current form, the proposal by Democratic Assemblyman Michael Gianaris of Queens would make the state the first in the country to require owners of antique guns, black powder weapons and muzzleloading firearms to go through a background check and purchase a license, said Ralph Walker, a legislative specialist with the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association.

“There is great opposition to the bill in its current form because it doesn't recognize the circumstances of museums and re-enactment groups who own and use these firearms for educational purposes,” said Anne Ackerson, director of the Museum Association of New York, which represents 260 museums and heritage organizations across New York.

Presently, antique firearms are exempt from regulation under New York law. Gianaris' plan would regulate them like handguns without exemptions for historic sites, museums, living history events, reenactments, educational programs or purposes, or interpretative events.

Handgun laws in New York can vary from county to county, but generally they require a person to supply detailed personal information, a photograph and fingerprints that are then run through a federal background check. Handgun licenses typically cost $10 or less, although in New York City and Nassau County they cost $50. It can take up to six months to obtain a handgun license.

“The cost of a license is nominal, but for museums and local historical societies that have large collections, those costs can quickly add up,” Ackerson said. “And there are hundreds of small community historical societies with collections and for many the cost could be quite burdensome.”

Ackerson feared such requirements could force some institutions to break up their collections, causing catastrophic damage to the history and heritage of the state. Others, often operating on constrained budgets, would have to spend scarce funds licensing their collections.

Requiring re-enactors to obtain gun licenses would have a devastating impact, said Barbara O'Keefe, president of The Fort La Presentation Association in Ogdensburg. Fort LaPresentation attracts more than 200 living historians and thousands of visitors for its annual Founders Day in July, a weekend event that generates about $250,000 in economic activity for the community, she said. The fort also hosts several other living history events during the year.

“If this bill were to become law, it would be impossible for us to continue our events,” O'Keefe said, adding that discontinuation of re-enactments would also jeopardize the association's finances and plans to improve and further develop its historic site.

“This is poorly considered,” said Doug Cubbison, a longtime re-enactor who is the command historian for the Army's 10th Mountain Division at Fort Drum.

New York has a rich history running from pre-colonial times through the War of 1812, Cubbison said. There are hundreds of re-enactments and living history events like Fort LaPresentation that would be threatened, he said.

“Many upstate communities depend upon heritage tourism as a major economic contributor. This bill would be a terrible economic loss to them ... and would be a disgrace to New York state's proud history and heritage,” he said.

Cubbison also questioned how much protection it would really afford the public, noting that black powder and muzzleloading firearms have limited range, limited penetrating capability, are relatively inaccurate and very slow firing. Many antique firearms are either too frail or too valuable to fire, he added.

“There have been more people killed with baseball bats than with muzzle loaders,” agreed the NMLRA's Walker. “Are they going to make people go through a background check, register and get licensed to buy a baseball bat?”

Gianaris said after hearing the concerns of museum officials and re-enactors he expected to amend his proposal to remove the licensing requirements or make registration less onerous.

“It was not our intent to harm these groups,” said Gianaris. “The idea was we wanted to make sure these weapons - because they can be used to inflict harm - at least have a waiting period and background check associated with them. That still ensures that people with mental illness or criminal records don't have access to these weapons.”

The lawmaker said he determined such guns needed regulating following two incidents last year.

One incident involved a student at St. John's University with a history of psychological illness who was apprehended on campus while in possession of a loaded black powder rifle. In the second incident, a convicted felon shot and wounded a New York state trooper with a black powder rifle.

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On the Net:

National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association: www.nmlra.org

Museum Association of New York: www.manyonline.org

AP-ES-02-01-08 1632EST

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bluedangercny wrote on Feb 11, 2008 1:41 PM:

" Guns do not hurt people,
People hurt people. "

RAP wrote on Feb 2, 2008 6:05 PM:

" More regulation, less freedom, another reason not to live in NYS. "

picketpin wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:56 AM:

" So antique blackpowder guns "may" hurt someone,and have actually hurt someone-pass another law. More oppression because a relatively minor threat exists. You want absolute safety? Move to China. "

brew1234 wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:35 AM:

" I'm a gun control advocate but this is foolish. How many crimes were committed by flintlocks last year? The competantcy of this legislator must be looked at. Can you imagine a bank robber using a musket? The insanity! "

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