" Sure, Iran is capable of doing things like that -- but so are we. "

" From what I read, the Navy corrected their report when this information came to light. We showed great restraint and no shots were fired. The Iranians are playing a very dangerous game and they know what they are doing by charging and harrassing our ships. If I heard “I am coming to you. You will explode in a few minutes” and there were Iranian boats around, and remembering what happened to the USS Cole, defending your ship is the only reasonable option. The next time this happens, the future Iranian navy should be built with glass bottoms, so they can see the old navy.
And, of course, Karl and his comrades are on the "Blame America First" bandwagon because we all know that Iran wouldn't do anything to provoke or try and make the US out as a bad guy, now would they? "

" I learn something new every day. I did not know the RR went Teamsters.

Understand, my grandfather, who was first in the Navy, where he played football on 5 championship teams, then turned down an offer to play for a pro team (49ers?) came back home to Michigan where he went to work for Chevy. He was a union organizer in the early days when that meant a lot of bare-knuckle brawling in the streets. It was also back in the day when workers were badly treated and under the thumbs of big corporations and NEEDED a union to protect them.

When he died, the head of the Democrat Party for the whole United States sent a huge display of flowers and an apology for not being able to make it, the head of the Democratic Party in Michigan came, the heads of the AFL-CIO came -- I never knew it, but he was an important man in the unions.

Yet, for all that, the unions are not what they once were. They struggle with internal corruption and can as often be a hinderance as a help to workers.

I have to agree with your view that it's a conflict of interests between the two transportation types. "

" I dare you to call APD and say you have gun and you plan to kill,then start throwing white boxes out into your lawn and SEE how real life affects you? You won't because you know STUPIDITY is involved! Video shows the "stupids" were there, audio tells someone was either real with their agenda or attempting cause conflict! In your world of "PARANOIA", I guess that would explain your fear of the stray black cat: will it have rabies an attack me or will it purr like a kitten??!! "

" Farmer's Gal, Thank you for the kudos. I just KNEW this was a hoax!
baseballmom, Farmer's Gal "spewing wrath" Whatchoo talkin' about, Willis? Lay off my Gal! =) "

" Ha HA HAAAA, cm and Chris Van Coulter! I WAS RIIIIIIGHT! And you can't STAND it, can you??
Yup, I'm gloating, because you're both too proud to admit it and give me my credit where credit is DEFINITELY DUE!
cm, it is YOU who is choosing to NOT SEE the truth! You can't even admit that "the incident was highly provocative" is just "spin" in order to not have to admit that the whole thing was a deliberate trumping-up of an innocuous incident designed to spread "Iranophobia". I know it's hard, Honey, but take a deep breath and say to yourself "Karl was right, Karl was right, it's OK, I can live with that!"
Chris, YOU need a better hearing aid, a thicker pair of glasses, a brain, and a BIG spoon to eat your words. Thank you for your L-A-M-E response--I'll take it as an admission of defeat, and the only way you can spit out an admission of being wrong on this one.
Face it you two--I WAS RIIIIIGHT! Hoo HOOOOOO!!!! "

" TY for agreeing w/me and as always you have a more diplomatic flair. I just get SO riled with the "big rig" defenders. When will they realize we are NOT speaking about beneficial truckers that bring goods. Real truckers should themselves be outraged at the liberties these trash haulers are taking because it will spoil things for them. I also agree w/your statement about criminals need to be sent back to where they came from. But that statement is gonna create ALOT of controversy w/the human rights types. Amen to your RAILROAD statement. RR is the other income in this household and they are a much more efficient way to haul goods around. If companies used trains think of all the trickle down savings and pollution cuts there would be. And BTW, RR went teamsters a few years ago - We think its a conflict of interest. And these huge metropolishes(sp) do use the RR to haul some of their trash. But believe it or not that track goes directly to a waterway. Can u beleive? Nozzolio thinks that is we remove the canal system from the thruway authority that the rate hikes will diminish - perhaps that s/h/b discussed b4 they just went ahead and raised the price. "

" You need to use thicker tin foil Karl.
My response to your nonsensical "Gulf of Tonkin" like response:
The USS Cole. 17 US sailors killed by Muslim fanatics in a small boat.
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" Good show, Karl -- glad you were able to be vindicated on this one so soon (without having to wait 40-50 years!) "

" Why can't the trash haulers be required to use the Thruway? I can't see why not. "

" naturelover -- I wouldn't have put it quite the way you did, but I couldn't agree more. Some roads are made for heavy traffic and others are not, and like most people around here, I resent that NYC sends all its trash up here. They made it, let them deal with it.

The same with their criminals (ship them back where they came from instead of having them move their criminal networks to Auburn so they can be right there for them when they get out -- here).

We have enough of our own waste and don't need theirs.

No, there is no magic tube to make waste disappear, so we all have to think about how we consume things before we create the trash in the first place, and that goes extra double for people living in crowded cities -- the answer is NOT to dump your trash out in the countryside so you don't have to deal with it!

I'm all for more local trucking and less cross-country trucking to decrease costs, make roads safer, decrease pollution and gas consumption and support local growers and manufacturers. It also cuts the "need" to artificially treat our foods with chemicals to make them last the cross-country trip, so our food could be healthier.

I'm for improving the railroads for shipping goods long distances across the country -- what jobs were lost in trucking would be picked up in railroading while improving efficiency.

The teamsters from way back shifted us away from that more sensible course -- I'd like to see us shift gears. "

" No TY sheelobo, u will need that box for your behind. Seriously, did u read the post and realize perhaps you jumped the gun? Brew, again, u dont live in this area and I dont take much stock of your jibber jabber. There are hundreds if not thousands of folks in these FingerLakes that are complaining about the trash haulers using alternate routes to save a buck. Currently there is legislation and talks going on to encourage them to get back on 81 and the thruway. The most promise h/b from DeFranciso. Plz b4 u blurt out arrogant, baseless no substance sentences because you beleive u r the "wise" one, read further on some sites. There are many fantastic old homes here that some of us have taken the time to refurbish and to "just move" is really word vomit. I mean Auburn is basically 4 corners so all roads would be considered main arteries that are residential. "

" FAR from right karl--again you pick 'n choose what sentences you care to believe! "Spokeswoman for the Fifth Fleet in Bahrain, said Monday that the Navy — while trying to determine the transmission's source — still believed the overall incident was highly provocative.
"The Iranian boats were coming close to the ships, making aggressive maneuvers and objects were being dropped into the water," she told The Associated Press. USS Hopper, one of the U.S. warships involved, said Sunday that it was the confluence of factors that caused most alarm.
"Whether it (the radio threat) was coincidental or not, it occurred at exactly the same time that these boats were around us, and they were placing objects in the water — so the threat appeared to be building."
Mickey Gurdus, an Israeli who has been monitoring radio and TV broadcasts for Israel Radio for four decades, believes the Gulf broadcast was not a hoax and "could have been psychological warfare. Last week, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said there had been two or three similar incidents over the past year. None had been publicized until the eve of Bush's trip to the region, even though in one, in December, a U.S. ship actually fired warning shots toward an Iranian boat.
YOU ARE SO WRONG, KARL!
If it is this so called "Filipino Monkey" — then HORRAY for our NAVY to NOT jump the "gun", BUT in wartime overall stupidity on Iranian boats, being so close, looking for trouble.
TO Kill or be Killed will always be a human fear factor,God Bless our Military!


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" Hey Farmer's Gal...You're not using publically funded computers to spew your wrath...are you? "

" I WAS RIGHT! I WAS RIGHT! I WAS R-I-G-H-T!!!!!
Today, the Navy admitted that the incident in the Gulf of Hormuz between the Iraninan patrol boat and the US warship was NOT as reported--most likely the result of a "prankster" marine "notorious" for his short-wave radio pranks!
As reported by the "Alternet" blog--"a Navy spokesperson told ABC News Thursday that the threat might not have come from the Iranian patrol boats, but from the shore or another ship passing by. The spokesperson added, "I guess we're not saying that it absolutely came from the boats, but we're not saying it absolutely didn't."
As reported by the New York Times---Agence France-Presse also quoted the official, who reasoned that “The voices and pictures broadcast by the Pentagon about the latest incident have been fabricated so clumsily that the pictures and voices in the video are not even synchronized.”
Indeed, the video and the audio were merged after the original recording, according to the Pentagon.
I WAS RIGHT! This incident was manufactured! What do you say about that, Mr Van Coulter? "

" We all create trash and it's removal is a problem, but we can't just wiggle our nose and it goes away. Some streets need to be designated with weight limits or no trucks allowed but the trash has to go somewhere and you can't force them to use the Thruway. If you live on a main artery for traffic then you will have to deal with it or move. It's not like the drive up bank teller. You can't put the trash in a tube and have it sucked away. "

" Nature lover...I have a box of tissues, would you like them??? "

" Please spare the wine...ooohhh nooo lol "

" While we are at it. Let's stop selling nuddie magazines, energy drinks, wine, beer, meat, anything grown with chemical help, cheesy poufs and soda!!! Down with them all I say!!! I've got my pitch fork and torch ready. Ha ha. "

" And another thing speaking of petunias, they sure dont smell like 'em thats for sure. Ever been down wind of one on the road or when they go by the house OMG, forget MOWing the lawn it just wilted from the stench. Residential roads arent laid to handle the weight of all these constant trucks that since the hike in tolls has them scrambling to save a buck. Got to love gov't and their decisions. And these puppies ROLL over also - of course we dont get many stories about those now do we? We live in a precious water laden area. Do you want trash in your drinking water? hmm something for your to ponder. These TRASH haulers are ruining our communities right here in Auburn, Aurora, Skaneateles and Watkins Glen to name a few. Its great eatting in a nice restaurant and grrr jake brake stinky time. nough said. "

" Yo, sheelobo, U get a life. If you were read the post SLOWLY, u would c it referenced TRASH haulers from out of state that are generally overloaded. NOT local trucks that brings goods. If your darling little personage lived on a city residential street and all of a sudden ((actually since Seneca Meadows started taking everything and anything - approx 5-6 yrs ago)) stinky middle finger weilding out of state mafioso TRASH haulers were RUMBLING down your street with jake brakes - oh yes, not supposed to use but they do - how would you feel? Plaster cracks, windows rattle - animals are hit, children run for their lives. SO DONT PREACH THE BIG RIG ENTITLEMENT SONG - yes, I was yelling...cripes every friggin time I make a statement about these good for nothing TRASH haulers some petunia has to get on their soapbox that has nothing to do with the TRASH HAULERS, they MUST be ELIMINATED - get my point? cheers. "

" What do you know about driving a big rig?? These drivers, and their companies are trying to save money, which eventually trickles down to YOU, the consumer. Most of them are safer drivers than anyone else on the road. Not only that, each and every truck that is on the road pays thousands of dollars road tax a year..they have every right to use these roads. I would think that people would give them the courtesy and respect that this is their job. Are you made to go miles out of your way to get to yours, just because somebody doesn't like the vehicle that you drive?? Get a life!!! "

" Karl, if we did keep it to only liquor stores to sell alcohol and cigarettes then people would be on edge if they cannot get their goods on their schedule. You just don't know until your addicted I guess. It would irritate me to have to get my cigarettes at a different time. Also, Wegmans doesn't sell it as much as gas stations do - look at their stock compared to what gas stations can offer. "

" Wegmans not selling tobacco is just a way of saving tax dollars--which will now have to be added on to the consumer in aanother form! "

" Chris van coulter, I do INDEED know what's best for you but if I typed it, I doubt the editors here would allow the post! "

" Yes folks, Karl L and the rest of the "Nanny" state supporters know whats best for all of us. "

" It'd be nice if we could get those places that do sell tobacco products to put their ads at adult eye-level instead of child-eye level as they seek to replace recovering adults addicts with fresh young blood... "

" Opening our borders to anyone and everyone is a good idea?!??!!? Is that poster serious? We and our ancestors, including those who came from other countries, built this country up to be what it is today (better and worse). Our immigrant ancestors came here to be productive members of society, and I have no problem limiting immigration to those who are most likely to contribute -- not just the rich, but those more likely to be willing to work and contribute to the welfare of this country, not the criminal dregs and social misfits, not those who will send most of their income out of the country to family "back home," but good, decent people willing to work hard for a fair wage and be part of our communities (which is more than I can say for a fair number of our home-grown young people! Maybe we should send them to live in Mexico!) "

" If you drink alcohol in reasonable amounts it does you no harm. Tobacco at any level is harmful to the user and others around them who inhale second hand smoke. How do compare the two as the same? "

" Enjoyed in moderation, wine is good for your health, and can contribute to longer life, whereas cigarette smoking is not good for you even in small amounts. "Booze" is not "far more harmful" than tobacco. "

" Very clever, the anti-Hillary comment. I see right through it though.
Thank you Wegmans, for dropping tobacco products. You've done a real service to the community.
Now if we could just get the local cigarette-and-booze outlets, you know, the ones with the gas pumps outside(?) to stop selling booze and cigs, we'd really be making progress. Oh, agreed, as well, about Wegman's selling booze--lets make the liquor store the ONLY PLACE you can buy alcohol OR cigarettes! "