Auburn may not buy fire truck

By Jessica Soule / The Citizen

Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:56 AM EDT

The Auburn Fire Department may lose its chance at getting another vehicle after workers' overtime expenses climbed during the past few weeks.
The Auburn City Council will revisit a decision it passed narrowly on Sept. 13 to purchase a pumper truck.

A month before, the council had agreed to buy a fire engine, so adding another truck to the city's order would save money at the factory, fire chief Mike Hammon said.

The city would pay for the trucks from savings in the department's overtime fund through a recently created incentive program. However, the increasing amounts of overtime for the past three pay periods has caused city manager Mark Palesh to become concerned.

During today's council meeting, Palesh plans to have council reconsider its agreement to buy the second truck with money that may not be there.

Hammon recognizes there was a spike in overtime payouts, but says the figures are on their way down. Usually, overtime costs hover around $12,000 to $14,000 for each pay period, but because of different situations, the figures have gone up for the past few weeks.

Hammon attributes the increase to the fires at the Highland Park Golf Club and a home on Pulaski Street, workers traveling for training, a firefighter who had surgery, and two firefighters who left.

“We're moving forward to keep it under control,” he said. This includes talking about lateral transfers, which would allow trained firefighters to move from a department into the city's department, to fill the two vacancies.

However, Palesh is waiting to finalize the lease agreement for the second truck until councilors reassess the situation.

“I'm going to update the council on my feelings and see what their feelings are,” Palesh said.

He declined to share his opinion, stating he would prefer to speak to council first.

Palesh said he is looking for something informal; a consensus from the council whether they would like to proceed with or delay buying the second pumper.

On Aug. 16, the council agreed to buy a $343,000 truck through American's LaFrance. Hammon included in the bid a provision that would allow the city to buy a second truck for the same price within a two-year period.

On Sept. 13, council agreed 3-2 to buy another pumper for the fire department for $314,000 from the same company. Councilors tabled the proposal more than once while debating buying a second vehicle.

Councilors William Graney and Matt Smith voted against the purchase, while Mayor Timothy Lattimore and councilors David Dempsey and Thomas McNabb voted for it.

Lattimore has said he wanted the department to explore contracts and bids that allow the city to make multiple purchases to take advantage of discounts and package deals.

Councilor David Dempsey agrees with the incentive program to encourage overtime savings, but sees the current staffing requirements detailed in the union contract as the root of the fiscal problem.

Hammon pointed to the current vacancies, rather than the set number of workers, as the real issue. Council will have to adhere to the contract until spring 2008.

“Obviously, this is turning out to be a huge disaster for the city - the 15-man minimum,” Dempsey said.

Staff writer Jessica Soule can be reached at 253-5311, ext. 267 or jessica.soule@lee.net

Working Overtime

Saved money earmarked for overtime costs for the Auburn Fire Department can be redirected to an incentive program in which the city will use it to buy equipment for the department. The city agreed to buy two trucks for the department, but climbing overtime expenses has caused city manager Mark Palesh to plan bringing the agreement for the second truck back to council.

The following are the amounts the fire department has spent on overtime for the past six two-week pay periods.

Sep 28 $21,000

Sep 14 $29,000

Aug 31 $23,000

Aug 17 $13,000

Aug 3 $14,000

Jul 20 $8,000

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There are 11 comment(s)

WesternNYer wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:19 PM:

" They don't just sit around waiting for fires, they respond to natural gas calls, ems calls, mva's, building inspections, etc... Lattimore has so many people in this city worried about overtime, many of you are blind to the fact as to what your departments actually do. I am pretty sure if you or a loved one were having chest pains, trouble breathing or god forbid a house fire you would be pretty happy to see the AFD arrive on location with a staffed fire engine within minutes, not waiting for a volunteer department to tone out then wait for someone to get to the station then take the truck to the call. Secondly i will say it again as it has been said before if the city would hire more people or take lateral transfers your overtime would decrease due to having more personnel so when someone is sick etc.. you are still at the 15 man minimum without having to call someone in on overtime. The public needs to start questioning the fearless leaders at city hall and stop using the FD as a scapegoat. "

Unknown... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:11 PM:

" I cannot understand why the firefighters are getting all this overtime. They're not fighting fires everyday. 90% of their time (or more) is spent waiting for a fire, and cleaning around the station. Why does that require overtime?? It doesn't make sense. "

Gloria wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:33 AM:

" What this Union has done to the City is a Big Disgrace to our City!! Yes, they pulled one over on the City Council and Now Every City Resident must Pay!! Everyone I've talked to in the City Fire Department is just laughing at US and making good money doing it. Why don't We become Grown MEN and Help Save Our City in another Way? Is it ALWAYS about Money??? Oh, it must be because Three of You Painted my neighbors House in Two Weeks and received pretty GOOD Money for the job!!! Must be broke--- A lot of energy for Fire Fighting if You Paint 8 Hr Days in the Sun!!! "

AJ wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:22 AM:

" What we really need is a fire department that is privately owned, cause the guvmint never does anything right. Yeah right. "

jumpykatt wrote on Oct 4, 2007 3:40 PM:

" "Hammon attributes the increase to the fires at the Highland Park Golf Club and a home on Pulaski Street, workers traveling for training, a firefighter who had surgery, and two firefighters who left"-------Seems like I heard Mike Quill say the exact same things. Matbe the problem with the FD isn't the chiefs its that fact that Tim and present company are too ingnorant to understand what is goin on. Wouldn't expect a small surge in overtime after a major fire?? "

WesternNYer wrote on Oct 4, 2007 3:17 PM:

" dropping the manning will endanger both firefighters and citizens alike. For those who have never been on a fireground there are so many tasks that must be completed and with 10 people that is not enough. Why do you think so many of the volunteer departments in the area call mutual aid to each other for fires. In response to volunteers responding to the city, just think if there is a fire in downtown Auburn the magnitude of the fire at Highland the entire block could possible burn down before a Volunteer truck got into the city. I agree that this is possibly a scare tactic during an election year but my question is if two people left the department why have those positions not been filled. If the city would waive there no lateral transfer rules those two spots would be filled quickly without waiting for the new firefighters to have to go to the state mandated training. I for one being a career Firefighter who is originally from Auburn would jump at the chance to come back to my hometown to work. Stop bashing the Firefighters, they are assests to a community not a drain. "

WesternNYer wrote on Oct 4, 2007 3:06 PM:

" In response to Union. Dropping you staff from 15 to 10 will not just make the problem go away. Also with 10 people on the trucks "

CW2007 wrote on Oct 4, 2007 3:05 PM:

" I have to agree with Union's Comments. Why not use the surrounding volunteer departments to supplement AFD? They have recently proved their skillfulness at being ever-at-the-ready and able to respond at the Highland & Springport fires. I am not saying that the volunteers do a bad job of firefighting, simply that they are not available in force 24/7. However, as long as nobody gets hurt or killed, and insurance pays for the losses (they will keep paying right?), what is the big deal? If we institute Union's plans in 2008, the City of Auburn could have ALL brand new homes and buildings by 2012 at the latest. Even the king of urban renewal, the current Mayor's father, would have condoned this plan. New buildings every 15 or so years, with just the minor drawbacks of a few deaths, injuries, homelessness, etc... Union, please tell us more! "

jumpykatt wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:01 PM:

" If Lattimore or Dempsey don’t like the overtime or the minimum staffing they shouldn’t have voted the contract in. Looks to me like they are creating a political issue to scare the voters, again. Real mature guys. "

cheeko wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:56 PM:

" The city needs the second truck. Simply have the 'city manager' work for incentive rather than a regular pay. The more money he saves, the more his check of one percent per saving will be. "

union wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:44 PM:

" First, I think the City of Auburn should drop their firefighting crew to 10 people. Move or close some of their stations. With contact talks in spring 2008. Second, why not use the mutual aid plan that we have in place. Bring outside fire departments into the city during fires. That could save dollars, they are volunteer fighters and don't cost the city any dollars. I think the City should have good and new equipment, but not by mismanagement of labor dollars. Maybe the City should explore more use outside fire departments in the City. "

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