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Two Cents

Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:05 AM EDT

The Owasco Republicans can't do basic accounting or write checks properly. What a disgrace and where is our DA's office investigation in this election year?

People who say that there's nothing to do in Auburn are obviously not looking. Just open a newspaper, or go walk around town and you will find much to do no matter how old you are.

The Auburn City Council is again playing politics with the restoration of Schine Theater when the state of New York has grants for downtown restoration of buildings of benefit to the community and the Schine Theater is exactly what this grant is looking for. Let Glen Fletcher pay for his own repairs on his building on North Division Street that nobody needs any way.

Katie Lacey is not speaking for all Democrats in the city and she has no right to decide who runs for mayor and who doesn't run for mayor.

The people in high offices in Auburn don't want to bring jobs here because they're looking out for their slum lord buddies. They want to keep thousands on welfare so they get their section-eight rent checks every month.

In regard to Syracuse loser Orangemen football team, three in a row. Fans pay good money to watch and support them, isn't it time to get a winning team?

Why does the DMV issue different license plates to people without checking to see why they want them?

The Auburn school district also cut my children (grades 2 and 4) off from busing, expecting them to walk from Liberty Street to SS. Peter & Paul School on Washington Street. At their age, I don't even allow them to walk around the block by themselves, yet because they are just shy of a mile away, they want them to walk all that way and cross North Street, too.

Hey, I know everyone can fit into Holland Stadium for a football game and other sporting events/graduation. Now let's all go and support the band on Sept. 29th for the 27th Annual “Harvest of Sound!”

Heaven is not one big casino - hell is.

The little children that have to walk on the Arterial to get to and from school is nothing more than an accident waiting to happen.

Here's a fact for you: The mystery critic is a 40-hour-a-week, 52-weeks-a-year taxpayer American who has never been out of work for 30-plus years.

I understand that facts are your forte, so try your math and add this up. When I retire I'm going to collect my pension, the maximum social security and a comfortable 401K because I've worked and saved for 35 years instead of whining that the government should send me free money.

What is wrong with you people: Supporting the war and supporting the troops are two different things!

Yellow and gray SUVs lined up in front of city hall Thursday night, all belonging to our city leaders. Down the street a short distance away I'm listening to the noisy manhole covers the city won't fix.

So President Bush finally admits what liberals have been saying and warning about all these years - that we're in Iraq to stay. People should be listening more to what liberals say.

In regard to persons who wrote in the article in Saturday's paper about TomatoFest when they had to rent the park. It was an organization put together to help out organizations and homeless people with food, why should they have to pay rent?

How stupid and cruel can those six people in Virginia be to do that to that (woman). They all need to be punished badly.

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There are 30 comment(s)

cm wrote on Sep 19, 2007 9:09 AM:

" We choose Saddam cause he had very dirty hands-he was the first to be out in the open, once he saw the USA was serious & coming for him, he hid like his coward pal Osama! Once he was put to death Osama had to PAY more cowards! If the majority in Irag dont want war then why are they into a "civil" war amongst themselves? Its not the USA car bombing daily--it's them!!!?? Its very clear --Osama in charge to replace Saddam or a freedom of the people! "

stick wrote on Sep 19, 2007 9:02 AM:

" Does the football players go to band competitions. I don't think so. "

stick wrote on Sep 19, 2007 9:00 AM:

" I would like to commend Ms. Love-Duncan. You had a great showing in the primaries. Keep plugging away some day people will realize that black people are as equal as whites. "

cm wrote on Sep 19, 2007 7:13 AM:

" THANK-YOU HAZEL EYEZ!!!!!!! "

cm wrote on Sep 19, 2007 7:07 AM:

" Our band kids go thru that EVERY home game YES FOR A 10 minute show!!!! is it worth the traffic--YES IT IS!!!! "

brew1234 wrote on Sep 19, 2007 2:20 AM:

" If we were so concerned about righting the wrong of 9/11 then why did we go to Iraq which had nothing to do with the whole event? We would have been more justified in declaring war with Saudi Arabia. We also have to remember that the average joe in these countries just wants to feed their family and educate their kids. They do not want war. The politicians and religious zealots want war. We had a commercial building bombed hundreds of miles away and people we did not personally know were killed. We were angry and wanted revenge. How do you think these people who have had their homes and neighborhoods bombed and members of their family and friends and neighbors killed by our bombs. Why wouldn't they want us dead? "

brew1234 wrote on Sep 19, 2007 1:59 AM:

" The taxpayers pay some of the bands expenses and if their presence is wanted at football games then they should be there. If it is to big a production then maybe they should have a pep band that at least performs in the stands with a limited number of players. Just co-operate or maybe your future funding should be considered to be eliminated or reduced. "

brew1234 wrote on Sep 19, 2007 1:50 AM:

" Why don't you bus every kid in the school district and end all this crying and whining? Then get ready for the big increase in school taxes. Or we could lay off some teachers and cut classes and maybe we could pack 50 kids into a classroom. We could also stop maintaining the buildings. Oh yes we can afford this. Or is the point that we should bus just your kids? As long as we transport them safely what does it matter about the quality of their education? It is a good thing you elected someone to do the sane thing. "

give me a break wrote on Sep 18, 2007 9:29 PM:

" Sweet Baby- Immediate reasons? The kids load the truck with the instruments; the kids aren't allowed to take uniforms from the school, the need for rides (parents) to AHS to do the above mentioned, then to Holland Stadium, then to pick them up at Holland Stadium, then to return to AHS to unload the truck/return the uniforms and then to go home; and additional traffic at EMS for all these kids are immediate issues. Again, it's pure logistics no matter how you want to look at it for a 10 minute half-time. "

HazelEyez wrote on Sep 18, 2007 9:22 PM:

" Yes, people like ME 'join' the military, you are correct in your statement. It's a good thing too, because I have found, through reading this message board, that there are far more cowards than I had ever imagined. If people like myself didn't 'join' they would have had to reinstate the draft, and then you poor clueless folks would find yourself in Iraq and Afghanistan without the support from home. The shoe would have been on the other foot. So maybe, just maybe, you should say 'THANK YOU'. "

karl L wrote on Sep 18, 2007 9:11 PM:

" Yeah Dan--just like the THOUSANDS clubbed, maced, dragged and illegally detained protesting American citizen sat the Republican National Convention in NYC a few years ago, held in warehouses which had been closed and condemned as "unfit". See, a funny thing happens, Dan. Power corrupts. And the over-reaction is a cross-contamination of the abuses of power that have characterized the Republican Administration and their methods of dealing with pesky protesters over the last few years. "

karl L wrote on Sep 18, 2007 9:05 PM:

" Atlopinion, I am hugged daily, and more, thank you. Throughout history, sycophants and followers like you have called men like me "dangerous" and "gullible". "Gullible" were they who believed that fool Galileo, or Copernicus. "Dangerous" were they who dared suggest that the King did not derive his authority directly from God. I take your fearful remark as a compliment, thank you. I only reply to the stilted ignorance and misinformation which pops up every now and then in this forum from the 33%'ers out there who believe the lies that the Powerful and Invested tell them to keep them fearful and following, instead of seeking Truth--no matter how uncomfortable that truth may be. So sorry that you lack the mental acuity to see the facts which I present as anything more than assumptions and conspiracies--simply because they threaten the security of the world in which you THINK you live! You fail to see what you fear, that's all. "

interested wrote on Sep 18, 2007 9:00 PM:

" Just a friendly reminder- VanAnden St. is NOT a drag strip. There are young children on this street, PLEASE DRIVE CAREFULLY!! "

cm wrote on Sep 18, 2007 8:43 PM:

" Did I miss the draft being reinstated? because last I knew one "joined" the military!!! "

cm wrote on Sep 18, 2007 8:41 PM:

" please karl before 9/11 did you have to take your shoes off to fly on a plane? If you did it wasn't anywhere in the USA>..Did you come and go to Canada/Mexico for a day trip? Did you really take a 2nd look at a suitcase alone at the Greyhound Station? Did you care when there were Military cutbacks? Did you notice our number in troops dropped year after year? How many "visitors" were here on a "temp" visa that were not checked on for years and years? As a whole we were a very relaxed country-afterall it wouldn't happen on our soil--dah! "

Dan W wrote on Sep 18, 2007 8:38 PM:

" Student Arrested, Tasered at Kerry Event. Democrats idea of free speech? "

vic wrote on Sep 18, 2007 8:05 PM:

" Having attended Sts Peter & Paul, I can assure you its hardly a bastion of rich folk. Virtually everyone who sends their kids there DO pay public school taxes, despite not getting the bulk of the benefits of doing so. I'm no fan of school vouchers but the kids should at least be bused to school. "

atlopinion wrote on Sep 18, 2007 4:06 PM:

" Karl I have to say is that YOU are the most dangerous of all. I have seen you read into the text of whatever you find to find a reason to tear it down. You have tried to tear apart religion. You are trying to make a conspiracy around the most devestating attack on U.S. soil. You have no facts, only conspiracies and theories of what maybe. Gullible might be the exact word to use for your ramblings. You believe what the majority who can see for themselves has brushed aside. You insult those who live in the reality world due to the FACT that it is not your world. I will say that the media is a devil in pearls. But to take history and twist it to fit your world and then insult and destroy the opinions and facts of others for no more than to defend what you know is wishy washy at best, is a dispicable display from someone who I believe needs a large hug. "

forrest wrote on Sep 18, 2007 3:58 PM:

" If you can afford to send your kids to St Peter and Paul school,you can either walk them to school, pay for a taxi cab, or drive them yourself. You want to send your kids to a catholic school and expect the school district to transport them. You probably don't pay school taxes. "

karl L wrote on Sep 18, 2007 3:50 PM:

" DD, I like Hilary. Hillary good, Rudi and Fred Thompson...not so good! there--I used good twice in one sentence! Never accuse me of being negative again! :) "

sweet baby wrote on Sep 18, 2007 2:58 PM:

" just curious give me a break - why would band kids have to be bussed to Howland Stadium? I can understand the instruments but not the kids. Why can't they be dropped off at Holland Stadium and organize from there? "

DD wrote on Sep 18, 2007 2:44 PM:

" Karl: I find it ironic that you accuse someone of wearing pink tights, when you seem to be the biggest whiner of them all. I believe that I see you complaining about everything from the war, to Jesus Christ. I don't believe that I have ever seen a positive thing in any of your writings. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd like to read something positive in your letters. I'll start:You have pretty good grammar. See, that was easy. Now, you go. "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 18, 2007 1:58 PM:

" The best way to protect our homes is NOT to send our National Guard abroad. With Abu Ghraib as an example, it's clear that Guardsmen aren't trained for the very different kind of duty they encounter -- they are supposed to be our home guard -- watching our borders, the strategic targets here at home, and helping out when disasters strike, natural or otherwise -- not out of the country. Yes, I felt we did indeed have to strike back right after 9/11, not just bend over and take it. BUT -- we are a long way from that now. Sure, we'd all like to see an end to terrorism, but it's not a winnable war. That's the nature of terrorism: you can spend years and years, you can spend trillions of dollars, you can spend the lives of thousands of American servicemen and women, you can spend probably as much fuel as we could use at home for a century and finally find an kill a hundred terrorist leaders -- and there would be a thousand more to take their places before you were done, all the more incensed on behalf of those they view as martyrs. You cannot win a war against terrorism, no matter how noble the cause -- all you can do is waste -- time, money, lives, fuel, resources -- you can destroy Iraqi cities then rebuild them, all on dime of the American worker, leaving him/her with nothing for old age and all for nothing. Such a war cannot be won. So, protect our borders at home, take care of our own people and our own environment, find healthier, greener ways to run things in our own lives, but stop wasting the lives of our young people, the hard-earned money of our workers, the needed resources of our people, etc etc. We made our statement after 9/11 and there is nothing more productive we can do in Iraq now. We need to concentrate on cleaning up our own act at home. "

karl L wrote on Sep 18, 2007 1:50 PM:

" cm, when are you gonna understand that 9/11 had NOTHING to do with "letting down our gaurd"! That's the catchy little fear-mongering slogan that the neocons have used as a "subliminal" justification for building up the military with billion-dollar blank checks as gifts to their macho buddies in the Defense Industry. Cheney himself said in a speech "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event��like a new Pearl Harbor"--fast forward to 2001: George Bush standing in the rubble of WTC: "I'm standing here at the site of the 20th century's new Pearl Harbor..." Bush ALWAYS laces his speeches with "code words" to "stroke" his constituents with verbal "winks"--mostly the Religious Rght, but in this case, the PNAC--Project for a New American Century. THEY are the reason for 9/11, and it would've happened whether we were vigilant or not. You're just precisely the type of fearful, gullible American that they rely upon to sell their lies and continue to reap ruin for personal profit. BTW< what about the cowards who NEVER SERVED and got deferments and who've never even studied History (much less passed the class!) and yet kill, bomb, and send young men to die in the name of "Patriotism"? I find that just as reprehensible and obscene! "

cm wrote on Sep 18, 2007 1:45 PM:

" if there are no jobs coming into an area for quite sometime--you have the option of free will to move! AS I DID. Yes it was very hard to leave the family area where I grew up and to leave all my family & friends--BUT in hindsight it was the best thing, not only for myself but for my children to be able to grow in an area that had more to offer! We love visiting but year after year it's sad to see all that we knew go straight to the dumps! Orchard St alone is beyond belief to me, on the way to school we would pass Caito's Bakery and buy 2 rolls for 5 cents-on the way home from school almost every house on Orchard St. had rows of flowers and the smells of home-made Italian cooking, we'd stop at Dom's for italian ice! sadly life moves on..Daily my father said I would be back to live-BUT-I had a responsibility to my kids-that was 20yrs ago. "

karl L wrote on Sep 18, 2007 1:32 PM:

" Farmer's Gal, you are a true voice of sage wisdom on this site! Yoker--we don't b=need another "chain" resturant in Auburn to put out of business excellent family-owned businesses like Lasca's. THIS is the type of business you should be suppporting--good people and more food in one meal than you could possibly eat in one sitting--you always leave there with a doggy bag! These big chains are the Walmarts of the food industry. Support Lasca's instead; they've earned their loyal customers and place in this town. "

cm wrote on Sep 18, 2007 1:00 PM:

" karl-being married to a navy-man for 10 yrs. doesn't have any conflict in my home concerning war! WE do not like war but as a country we needed to stand our ground after 9-11 and still do! As a citizens of this country WE feel we became comfy and let our guard down! WE want us protected! We realize that it will cost money/our taxes and it will cost lives/good soldiers and innocents in the way-BUT it will also clean out some of the cowards that fight under the words of religion! "

Farmer's Gal wrote on Sep 18, 2007 12:56 PM:

" Hey, facts-are-your-forte -- guess again. There won't BE any Social Security for you to collect by the time you retire. Goody for you that you were able to have a good job all these years and save up -- somehow you seem to think that makes you morally superior to those who were not so fortunate. In the old days (of my grandparents!), the reality was that if you worked hard and didn't mess up, you'd be set for life -- you'd have a job for life, a home to pass on to your kids, enough money for retirement, etc. If you didn't, it probably meant you did something wrong. Guess what? That hasn't been reality for two generations now. You can work hard, get advanced degrees, be a good person, never screw up -- and NOT be set for life, not even close. You'll be treated as an interchangeable, expendable cog -- ask any of the people who keep losing their jobs in Auburn when businesses close down or leave. Ask my mom, who worked hard and did all the things you are supposed to do, but kept having businesses downsize or fold, leaving her unemployed at the age of 60, unable to get even temp work at the age of 62, out of unemployment benefits long enough that she ran out of everything, all savings, all retirement -- at a time when my brother and I were both of work and couldn't help -- so that she was forced to take Social Security 6 months early -- she just couldn't squeak it by another day without any income -- so she gets reduced benefits. And the women in our family live into their 90s, so she's got a long haul with little to carry her, even though she worked and contributed to the system all her life. Facts-your-forte, you need to shift your paradigm because you are judging others of today's world by the standards of generations long past. It's amazing how little the privileged understand about the way the world really works. "

yoker wrote on Sep 18, 2007 12:46 PM:

" HI EVERYONE!!! I JUST WANTED TO WRITE ABOUT A FRANCHISE THAT I THINK WOULD BE A GOLD MIND IN AUBURN. TULLYS. THIS IS A PLACE AUBURN HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR A LONG TIME. YES I KNOW WE HAVE APPLEBEE'S AND CHILLI'S NOW BUT TULLY'S IS A TRUE PEOPLE FAVORITE. I THINK YOU CAN PUT IT RIGHT WERE PONDEROSA USED TO BE ON GRANT AVE AND IT WOULD FLURISH. JUST A THOUGHT FOR ANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE MONEY AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. "

karl L wrote on Sep 18, 2007 12:26 PM:

" Hers another fact for you. The smug "mystery critic" brags about the luck that has kept him in business while many around him fail due to circumstances beyond their control, and yet is obviously so unhappy in his life that he needs to perpetrate this sobriquet (and assume that people are impressed) like he's some superhero or something! Jeez, get a life "mystery critic"--or at least "grow a pair" enough to "come out of the closet" and put your name behind your big mouth. That's okay though; I wouldn't come out either if I was wearing pink tights and a pastel cape! "

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