" I posted comments earlier on the Two Cents page for today -- 18 September. Where'd today's Two Cents go? As of 1:42 PM 18 Sep 2007 -- we are back to the Two Cents from yesterday. This is the page linked from the homepage, and the 18th doesn't appear in the search results either.... "

" Yes cm--"majority rules"--and 63% of Americans at last poll think this war is wrong and the troops should be pulled out! What say ye to THAT? I understand how you can't really be anti-war and preserve your marriage. Man, that must tweak your conscience, but we all make our choices...BTW, your Greenspan dissertation impresses me not--the economy still stinks, period. "

" So Karl, the only element used to gauge the economy is home foreclosures? People took out loans that they couldn't afford and lenders let them do it, and that is Bush's fault how? There are many, many other aspects to the economy but with you no fact is too big to ignore. 3,4,5 months of a high foreclosure rate doesn't negate years of growth. Yeah Karl, keep thinking yourself "courageous" for griping about the war...truth to power blah, blah, blah...Courageous guys like you march with pictures or references to Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, 9/11 conspiricy garbage, Bush/Hitler comparisons. But how often with pictures of 9/11? 3/11? 7/7?Beslan? Daniel Pearl? Theo van Gogh? Car bombings in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan? The murder of Christians and Buddhists in Indonesia? People like you don't. The real truth about what we are up against scares you to the point where its easier to live in a fantasy land of tin foil hat conspiricies. BTW, I was in the Navy so your chickenhawk "insult" doesn't really fly with me. "

" Greenspan also praised the rise of the subprime mortgage April 2005. The subprime mortgage industry collapsed in March 2007, with many of the largest lenders filing for bankruptcy protection in the face of spiraling foreclosure rates. For these reasons, Greenspan has been criticized for his role in the rise of the housing bubble and the subsequent problems in the mortgage industry,[27][28] as well as "engineering" the housing bubble itself: "It was the Federal Reserve-engineered decline in rates that inflated the housing bubble … the most troublesome aspect of the price runup is that many recent buyers are squeezing into houses that they can barely afford by taking advantage of the lower rates available from adjustable-rate mortgages. That leaves them fully exposed to rising rates." Furthermore, Greenspan had used his position as Fed Chairman in 1993, when he supported President Clinton's deficit reduction plan, which included tax hikes and budget cuts! wikipedia has alot of info. "

" actually karl my hubby DID serve 10 years worth! Wheres your HONORABLE discharge papers???? You say you only complain of the Ideals and the people of the USA-MAJORITY RULES is more like it! so if you don't like the majority rules then you should move to a more comfortable communistic country! Or a wee-little box that you and yours will be happy with! "

" DD, you complete fool--I complain not about the USA and it's ideals and peoplea, but about the way that its been hijacked, sullied, betrayed and perverted by its leaders--and against idiots like you who are too "macho" and blindly patriotic too see past your hatred of "the Left" to admit it. You're just skeered at your core, aren't ya? Ha HA! I don't hate news organizations. "Faux "News" is not a "news" organization--they are a propaganda outlet, period, like Joseph Goebbels' office of WWII. Nor is Iraq a "just cause" like WWII--if it is, why aren't YOU signed up to fight for what you so obviously ardently believe in Dan W--and you , DD,Chris, cm, etc? Don't like your odds of coming back huh? Better to stand on the sidelines and cheer and let the big boys carry the ball huh? Makes you all feel like you're doin' SOMEthing HUH? Ha HA. Yeah well, at least I have the courage to admit that I can see this whole war stinks, and is morally, legally and principally WRONG. BTW, home foreclosures at RECORD LEVELS in August--lecture us again about hat "strong economy" Mr Coulter and cm... "

" DD karl tell us to do OUR homework then hates getting "butt kicked" when we prove his words wrong! he preaches one thing today and tomorrow preaches another?? Clinton only had a small surplus do to OVER-TAXING! I believe the on-going argument is that Bush wants to give better armor but the Democrats would rather give themselves pay raises instead! Greenspan's exact words did NOT say "I meant to say" look it up!! "

" Here you go Karl, lets see you pick this apart with your liberal "logic". From Wizbang.com (he put it more eloquently than I could as he blogs for a living): Oil is, quite simply, the foundation of modern civilization. And the free flow of oil is the linchpin that holds it all together. Imagine spending one day without oil. Just one day. No driving. Virtually no transportation whatsoever. Most likely no heat. Greatly reduced electricity. And no plastics. Period. Get rid of most of your clothing, with its plastic fabrics. Your credit cards. Your computers. Your TV. Most -- if not all -- of your home electronics. Your appliances. In short, move right back about 150 years, because that's what it would take to get by without oil. Oil is the lifeblood of our existence. Now, where is the world getting most of its oil? That's right, the Middle East. And that is the true source of the Islamist power in the world. Saudi Arabia would have fallen to the Islamists a long time ago if they weren't sitting on top of zillions of dollars of cash, and could affort do keep paying the troublemakers to go somewhere else. Iran wouldn't have the resources to develop nuclear weapons, and their periodic threats to close the Straits of Hormuz would result in endless shrugs. If it wasn't for oil, the world would look at the insanity that grips most of the Middle East and scold, then shrug -- much like it does at the genocides in Africa. Because it simply wouldn't matter to us. That's what Greenspan meant, and only a complete idiot or an utterly partisan hack could interpret it otherwise. "

" PPS--If you don't like it here, Karl, go somewhere else to live. All I hear you do is complain about how our country is run. Do you not believe that the US is the best place in the world to live? "

" PS Karl, quit being a drama queen----In a whiney voice-"if we had today's Republicans around during WWII we'd be joining the Hitler invasion of the US." Get real Karl. Have we had another major terrorist attack since 9/11? No, beacuase we've disrupted the global terrorist network where they breed, and where they were funded. The savages are on the run. "

" Karl---Why is it you are against a news organization until they say something you agree with? "

" FREBUS: The outbreak of the Korean War in 1950, the First Indochina War in 1954, The Vietnam War, also known as the Second Indochina War, Vietnam Conflict, occurred from 1959 to April 30, 1975. It's all a bit confusing since basically when WWII ended in 1945-small wars continued on. "

" to the person that wrote "The high school marching band cannot be bothered to show up at football games" hasn't a clue. It takes four busses to move those 130 kids, plus the large truck and trailer for the equipment. It's pure logistics. The district will not spring for that, nor should they. For a ten minute show, it would easily turn into a two hour effort. No one works for free. If you want to see them, go to a competition. The Harvest of Sound is in two weeks. They'll knock your socks off. Or, on Mon & Wed nites @ 8:30, go to AHS near the track. You can see the whole show, and see how much work those kids do. "

" If we want to attack terrorism (or terzim as Bushie would say) and those responsible for 9/11 then we should nuke Saudi Arabia and Crawford, Texas. I saw the picture of these two leaders holding hands in the Rose Garden. We could achieve world peace with this move. This strategy has to be better than the "Surge". "

" Karl, The war on terrorism is a just cause war also. Sign up sir if you can put your words into actions. "

" cm, do you HONESTLY believe Greenspan didn't catch enough heat after making that statement to attempt to redact and qualify it, just to save his standing among his former constituents? Puhleeeze, cm! The guy spoke the TRUTH the first time out, then got "the phone calls" and said "oh, what I MEANT to say was..." You're naive if you buy the second "gift" to his former buddies! Blah, blah, blah! And when are you gonna recognize that the "war spending" has been nothing but one HUGE sorry BLANK CHECK for profiteering and FRAUD under thos administration and their cronies! "...protect our national security?!?!" PLEASE! How 'bout protecting our boys over there with proper body armor, vehicle armor, and the like? Did you forget about the monumental WASTE AND FRAUD that has characterized their spending-the-US-taxpayer into near bankruptcy?! And the "Tax cuts"? Bush cut the taxes to benefit the wealthy, and then took THE SURPLUS (WHICH CLINTON ENGINEERED!) and blew it all on this lousy war!--but NOT on the important things, like armor for the troops! Amazing it is, your selective culling of pro-Republican data! See my latest post to Mr Coulter there; talk to me about the effects of this war on the AVERAGE AMERICAN and I'll start taking you seriously! "

" Yeah, Ghris--the Housing slump, the record deficit, the increasing strain on the Middle Class, "employment" but at only minimum wage service jobs, the TOTAL absence of savings for Americans, the complete lack of health care for most American families, pensions and health care programs being disinvested and cut by greedy corporations, etc, a broken, exhausted, half-destroyed military whose valiant soldiers have been driven to the highest suicide rates ever...talk to me about things that matter and the realities of REAL life--not "Life in Faux Land"! "

" While eating on the deck at curleys i seen the strangest thing ever! I looked into the water and seen a carp swim by, And guess what? He had a cell phone in his fin ! "

" Karl you must be bi-polar!!!! First it's listen to CNN yesterday because they stated something I believe to be true but don't listen to CNN today because its all LIES! Read the davinci codes yesterday because to me its true then todays its all LIES! Yesterday I was in love with the democrats but today it doesnt matter what party starts a war! Yesterday I hated the republicans because they started a war, today Greenspan, a republican, must be listened to for since he has spoken! "

" Greenspan who was once praised for the rise of the subprime mortgage industry(that would be giving loans to those that couldn't afford to pay them) CAUSED many of the largest lenders filing for bankruptcy today and also causing all the great foreclosures happening at this moment! So tell those that are about to lose their homes how Greenspan's words are to be of great importance! "

" Greenspan, in testimony before Congress in 2001, gave a major boost to Bush's tax-cut plan, irking Democrats. At the Fed, he repeatedly urged Congress to put back in place a new spending increases or tax cuts to be offset by spending reductions or TAX INCREASES. He argued then that a tax cut could help the economy deal with sagging growth. Surpluses quickly turned to deficits after the bursting of the stock market bubble and the 2001 recession cut into government revenues. Government spending increased to pay for the fight against terrorism and receipts declined because of TAX CUTS! THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION: "We're not going to apologize for increased spending to protect our national security." "

" A self-described "libertarian Republican," Greenspan And he weighed in briefly but pointedly on the Iraq war: "I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil." THEN HE CLARIFIES: Greenspan has since clarified these remarks in an interview. In the interview, Greenspan stated, "I was not saying that that's the administration's motive. I'm just saying that if somebody asked me, 'Are we fortunate in taking out Saddam?' I would say it was essential". "

" So in order for the WORLD to control trade shipping routes thats a valid reason to go to WAR??? Saddam's hands were so into the terrorist monies! One can certainly see that long after his death! "

" Yeah Karl, the GOP really messed things up. Tax breaks, historically low unemployment numbers, generally a strong economy all around, productivity is way up, a strong and well trained military. There is always room for improvement but it certainly isn't the doom and gloom the liberal chicken littles want you to believe. "

" To "the other Karl L.--"...the best functioning US ever"??? Exactly WHAT are YOU smoking? "

" cm, who cares what party the wars were started under back then?--the point still stands that THIS WAR WAS STARTED WITH A LIE FOR SELF-ENRICHMENT! This is NOT about "freedom" and "Democracy"--those words that you Conservatives love to throw around cuz they sound impressive to your fellow similarly-deluded constituents like Mr Coulter there...BTW, Viet Nam was NOT only about Communism--there was a huge stake in who would control different aspects of the Indochina economy and trade shipping routes! DO your research! Your Faux-News-talking-points rant there made the soy milk in my refrigerator curdle! Mr Coulter, if I was around in WWII, I would have enlisted and gone to fight, because that was a JUST WAR. The Third Reich was an aggressive power, threatening the European mainland, and threatening the peace of the entire world, not simply a regional bully. Besides--did you guys miss the memo about Saddam and Iraq having ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with 9/11?!?!?!?! OH, that's right; I forgot--you get your "facts" from Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter!!! Argument OVER!!! P.S.--What about that Greenspan revelation? And how about ol King George admitting that now we're staying in Iraq like, forever??? JUST TWO MORE THINGS THAT "LIBERALS" WERE RIGHT ABOUT!!!! "

" It take a real dirtbag not to pay their taxex!!!! NOBODY LIVES FOR FREE!! Get another job if thats want it takes!! If you can't afford your propery, Melone villge is the place for you!!! "

" If real "patriots" like Karl were around (and I'm sure they were) during WW2, they would have had spouted things like this. The following should sound pretty familar to those who read about the liberal cowards of today and the views they espouse (I got this from the web and it is truly fitting): General Eisenhower is a man constantly at war with the facts. He believes that Nazi Germany is a direct threat to the US. It was Japan that attacked us, not Germany. Eisenhower won't admit what everyone knows: America is in an unwinnable war on two fronts that are thousands of miles away. Even if America could win, we would have to keep thousands of troops in Europe and the far east for decades. "

" What is this whinning week over your kids? God, the bus passed them by,they can't cross the artieral, oh we have to get out of bed and be responsibile parents and make sure they get to school safe? Iam sorry you couldn't get to the tomato fest because the suttle bus is such a inconvenience for little kids, leave your kids home! "

" cm. Vietnam was started in 1950 when we were helping the French. In 1956 we were training the Vietnam army. Guess it all started under Eisenhower not Kennedy. "

" Karl-you do realize that WWII and Vietnam both began on a DEMOCRATIC presidents watch..Both wars were to rid the countries of communism and begin democracy--both wars added in fights over land control and religion control. Times have changed which in turn causes weapons of choice to change. Now if we didn't aid in reconstruction then you would be saying America is heartless and cruel to the innocent!? This war isn't just about oil-it's about democracy, land, leadership, and mostly terrorism ---whatever country is hiding and funding terroristic scums should feel the wrath of the USA! God Bless our Troops! "

" In our house "Santa Claus" only brings ONE SPECIAL present-the rest are from Mom & Dad. Jewelry or something hand-made works best! Even our 25 yr old son-still gets a "santa" gift afterall santa lives in your heart forever! "

" The moron who posted that first "doozy" up there about WWII obviously doesn't know the FIRST thing about Modern Warfare or the nature of THIS war vs the nature of WWII--the same as the idiot who lost Vietnam and, not ironically, the SAME LOSERS who are now committing the SAME mistakes in Iraq! (NOT the soldiers, mind you!) WWII was a conventional war, fought with conventional, identifiable armies in uniforms, and moving across vast battlefields in lines and troop formations, replete with tanks, units, markers on a map, etc. If you try to fight a "guerilla war" like a conventional war--surprise--you get "Viet Nam" or "Iraq"! Additionally, in WWII, we "won the hearts and minds" of the people because we were fighting for a Noble Cause--NOT to steal and control their oil resources! As Anglo-Saxon peoples, we identified with the European peoples, cities and infrastructure, and so were more at loathe to destroy their cities and livelihoods, and to aid in reconstruction. Therefore the population was more amenable to Allied troops and occupation. In Iraq or Viet Nam, we're doing neither! BTW, did you all hear that ALAN GREENSPAN HIMSELF finally ADMITTED that "it's an politically-inconvenient FACT that we're in Iraq to control the oil"! "

" If we had George Bush around as president during WWII, he would've been convicted as a war criminal by now! "

" If we had today's Republicans around during WWII, the entire world would be joining Hitler in the invasion of the United States! "