Legislature was right to reject Cayuga settlement

By Judy Ducayne

Tuesday, September 4, 2007 11:18 AM EDT

Bravo, Cayuga County Legislature. The members have rejected that nutty offer from the Cayuga Nation whereby the Indians would get to build a casino in the Catskills and in exchange agree to only put 10,000 local acres into a federal trust, which means they won't have to pay taxes on it.
A problem with the deal is the Indians don't even own the land in the first place. Now they're saying they'll put 64,000 acres into a trust. This is land they claim is their ancestral homeland. Of course they don't own that land either. And they can't put anything into a federal trust. That privilege is reserved for the federal government. The Indians can only apply for it.

The bottom line is that if we don't sell them our land, then the whole runaway train comes to a screeching halt.

It will be interesting to see if landowners in Cayuga and Seneca counties will put their money where their mouth is.

It's easy to put up a roadside sign saying “No sovereign nation” and attend meetings; it's something else to turn down money that's on the table. The Indians can't apply to the feds to put land into a trust that they don't own. So the solution is; don't sell them your land. It's time for people to get organized and hold the line on land sales.

No sales means no sovereign nations. which raises a good question; if somebody has land for sale would they be breaking any laws by refusing to sell to Indians?

It's something that needs to be explored because that's where we are headed. If the Cayugas are successful in purchasing 64,000 acres and convincing the feds to grant them trust status, it would prove disastrous for many reasons. First of all, we would trade in taxpaying owners for non-taxpaying ones. And where would we pick up the slack for all the lost revenue? You guessed it - from the rest of us. So even if your land isn't directly involved, that doesn't mean that you'll be unaffected.

Also our community businesses who pay taxes will be expected to compete with the Indian businesses, which would be tax free. This kind of unfair advantage should be unacceptable to all New Yorkers. So far the courts have ruled in our favor, as well they should. But all New Yorkers must become increasingly aware of this threat to our state. Nobody, including the federal government, should have the right to place any New York land into a trust.

The treaty with the Indians was settled more than 200 years ago; that should be enough.

There should be no sovereign land, under any circumstances, in this state. All citizens should be treated equally under the law without mandating any unfair advantages to any particular group. What would happen if any other ethnic/racial group announced that they wanted their own tax-free nation in New York? Exactly!

Ducayne's column appears Tuesdays in The Citizen, and she can be contacted at sacredheart6005@hotmail.com

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mjmanning wrote on Sep 11, 2007 10:55 AM:

" First of all, I believe the correct term is 'Native American' not 'Indian'. If you remember your history correctly they were labled as 'Indians' when the Europeans got lost all those years ago and thought they were on the other side of the world. I believe that's also when the Colonists swiped their land right out from under them, spreading like a disease from coast to coast. Secondly, in regards to this statement "All citizens should be treated equally under the law without mandating any unfair advantages to any particular group," I believe you are in fact contradicting yourself from other articles you have written especially those on gay marriage and gay rights. You don't believe that they should have the same rights you do since their affections are for the same sex and don't agree with your religious beliefs. To wrap this up before it becomes too long to read (and before my brain explodes from your selfish hypocricy and snobbery), it seems that you are only in agreement with decisions that allow ONLY YOU to keep your cushy security, beliefs and rights. It seems that as soon as it puts a pinch in your own pocketbook or you view it as an afront to your personal beliefs, then it becomes an issue that you want everyone to agree with you on. Please rethink your column before you turn it in to be published. The rights and opportunities that you flaunt so obcenely for yourself must be granted to everyone else as well. "

Dan W wrote on Sep 10, 2007 9:04 PM:

" "forrest" pataki could of up held the tax laws to tax sales to non tribal members. He refused to follow the laws. We have spitzer that is following the same path. Proves that money corrupts. Lets have a "tire burning" on the Thruway to protest. I just forgot, we would be facing state and federal charges for doing that. "

forrest wrote on Sep 9, 2007 10:06 PM:

" I live in the indian land claim area, and I'd sell my house in a heart beat to the indians. What the hell, the state of New York, the county of Cayuga, the city of Auburn are taxing me to death, state tax,county tax,city tax,school tax,sewer tax, water tax, sales tax,tax on tax, let them collect from the indians. "

budobrubbie wrote on Sep 7, 2007 7:34 AM:

" I've got to remember to stop feeding the trolls..... "

budobrubbie wrote on Sep 6, 2007 9:48 PM:

" Hey unknown, all you've done is take shots; you haven't contributed to the discussion at all. So take a side and enlighten us; is it discrimination to refuse to sell to a willing buyer because of their nationality? If a Cayuga Indian makes the only offer for your land, should you accept it and sell or take your house off the market? Judy seems to prefer the latter. It's easy for people who don't live in a land claim area to tell us what to do with our land, but then most wingers are comfortable dictating their values to others. "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 6, 2007 12:28 PM:

" No, it was just that your question about selling your land or not was just way too childish, and just an opportunity to take a shot at someone. But, yours was just another example of how lame these posts and get. "

budobrubbie wrote on Sep 5, 2007 12:21 PM:

" Unknown - I'm sorry that you don't understand my posts. What's the problem, too many syllables or not enough pictures? "

owascoman wrote on Sep 5, 2007 11:54 AM:

" Judy, now you know how ticked off I get when churches get a free ride (like YOUR indians do) and the rest of us foot the bill. Please tell me why churches should not pay property taxes (and other taxes as well) like the rest of us do. You madam, are a hypocrite! "

Unknown... wrote on Sep 5, 2007 10:29 AM:

" budobrubbie, what kind of mindless dribble is that?? "

budobrubbie wrote on Sep 4, 2007 5:27 PM:

" BTW Judy, I live in the Village of Cayuga, and we've been dealing with this land claim issue for over 20 years. Our kids are grown and we'd like to sell our house and move into something smaller, hopefully outside the land claim area. Are you telling me that we should reconsider our decision to sell, just to spite a bunch of Indians? "

mickeymch wrote on Sep 4, 2007 4:49 PM:

" How can you say all citizens should be treated equally under the law, and then suggest that land owners refuse to sell to Indians. You can't argue both sides of the issue. The real issue is allowing the tribe to take land off the tax roles, and that was settled by the Supreme Court. They can't do it. The threat of placing 64,000 acres into trust is an empty one. "

budobrubbie wrote on Sep 4, 2007 3:45 PM:

" "No sales means no sovereign nations. which raises a good question; if somebody has land for sale would they be breaking any laws by refusing to sell to Indians?" My guess is that the short answer would be "yes". I'm not an attorney, but it seems like the refusal to sell to an interested party because of that party's race, religion, gender, sexual orientation or national origin would be discrimination. Besides, you don't believe Clint Halftown will personally be making us offers for our homes, do you? The tribe will have some LLC representative or other individual represent them, so the sellers won't know to whom they're really selling their land. "

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