Two Cents

Saturday, June 2, 2007 11:38 PM EDT

If our Cayuga County legislators fail to give the general population the opportunity to vote on a casino, I will work tirelessly to see that they are replaced.
I wonder what the statistical odds are for not being called for jury duty for 15-plus years running now?

I guess if we're waiting for public servants to investigate Roy Brown's bum rap, we'll be waiting quite a long time, aren't we? Maybe until after the statute of limitations expires, then they'll investigate.

Do people who attend the Memorial Day parade pray for our fallen soldiers who have given the ultimate sacrifice, or do they pray that our president, George W. Bush, will conquer the world like Adolf Hitler?

To all you jerks that cut the curves on Route 34B: stay on your own side of the road.

If you shop around you will find clear trash bags. Please, no more excuses about not finding them.

Oh boy, just what we need - a Bill Clinton type for mayor of Auburn. Give me a break.

Because they vote so monolithically for the something for nothing Democrat Party, Bush, McCain, Hillary and Kennedy want to give amnesty to the Mexican invaders. That is treason by any definition of the word you want to use.

East Middle is not alone, a family of ducks lives beneath my living room window.

The Citizens' Say

There are 55 comment(s)

cm wrote on Jun 4, 2007 12:49 PM:

" This column is "citizen's say" of course many of us have very different opinions about various subjects.This weekends subject mostly has been the clear trash bags.I am all for recycling but I honestly have yet to see a trashman care what color bag I have!Whats the punishment if I do use a blsck bag? Will I be fined? And if so I think of better things to fine for: such as not putting out trash at all-and letting it pile in your backyard and create infestations etc.FINE owners for not cleaning up their properties But not for trying with a wrong color bag! Auburn is a low income town-more than 50% are on welfare of some sort-so why have a law to force poor people to buy clear bags--be greatful they are clean and take the trash to the curb!There are many other ways to recycle and YES we should all be doing a part--but that also means we dont have to do "brews" part or my part--YOU as a citizen may have your own way to recycle and good for you! I dont feel we are wasting newspaper space and this is an online forum..and I didn't see YOU leave your email addy or I would have written to you personally! "

Disgusted wrote on Jun 4, 2007 11:24 AM:

" This column sounds more like a chat line than a good editiorial page. Why don't the few of you that argue back and forth , get each others e-mail addresses and quit wasting good space in the newspaper. "

cm wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:37 PM:

" "brew" you are joking about taxes going down? As I see it they may pay less for less tonnage-But the garbage trucks still run on gasoline which has gone way up! And then the workers need a raise every year, and the billing department uses electricity which is now higher..I promise you no matter what there will be NO tax break! Now as for being more environmentally intune--I suggest you stop using the car you are driving-you are emitting too many gases into the air I breathe. Stop watering your lawn you are wasting my childrens future of swimming in a lake.And get off the clear trash bags and use recycled paper bags not only will you save a tree but plastic bags have harder components to break down which will affect the aquafier! "

come on wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:06 PM:

" I think if they wrapped up the city of Auburn and the county of cayuga and all the so called legislators,city couniclemen and want to be mayors. and wrapped them an its in to a large black plastic bag and drop the bags off in skaneatles. what a favor we would do to snobville. "

editorial snoop wrote on Jun 3, 2007 10:04 PM:

" Robin Williams, wearing a shirt that says "I love New York" in Arabic. > > You gotta love Robin Williams......Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin >Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN >Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message. > > Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!) > > "I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan >for peace. So, here's one plan." > > 1) "The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their >affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, >Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those "good 'ole' boys", we >will never "interfere" again. > > 2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with >Germany , South Korea , the Middle East , and the Philippines . They don't >want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed >sneaking through holes in the fence. > > 3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and >leave We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be >gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. >They're illegal!!! France will welcome them. > > 4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days >unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be >allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide >here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab >drivers or 7-11 cashiers. > > 5) No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If >they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home baby. > > 6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy >wise. This will include developin g nonpolluting sources of energy but will >require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou >will have to cope for a while > > 7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for >their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go >somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling >up the storage sites would be enough.) > > 8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we >will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, >cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen >or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if >anything. > > 9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't >need the spies and fair weather friends here Besides, the building would >make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens. > > 10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That wa y, no one >can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The Language we speak is >ENGLISH..learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan? > > "The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your tired, your >poor, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, >'you want a piece of me?' " > > If you agree with the above forward it to friends...If not, and I would >be amazed, DELETE it!! "

hmmm wrote on Jun 3, 2007 8:50 PM:

" I use whatever kid of trish bags I have at time,so who relly cars abot trish bagz anywas There something for u to doo "

karl L wrote on Jun 3, 2007 8:44 PM:

" I think we should use camo-colored trash bags, so they wouldn't be so noticeable for the people who put them out 3 days in advance,,,, "

Small Town Government wrote on Jun 3, 2007 7:45 PM:

" It is kind of ridiculous when government feels the need to control the color of your trash bags. Next thing you know, they will be telling us what flavor condoms we can use. "

To taxpayer wrote on Jun 3, 2007 7:07 PM:

" Hey, I saw them the other day at Clifford Park. I thought they were on a picnic, and do you really think this city holds any employee accountable for anything they do? Don't hold your breath. "

TO Brew wrote on Jun 3, 2007 5:11 PM:

" Because of you, I am going to stop using trash bags and just throw my trash right in the can. It is people like you that make me wish stupidity was worthy of capital punishment. "

Please read the city's information wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:43 PM:

" And please look at it from the other side. You will find that the clear bags are to help minimize the severe health risks that sanitation workers face daily. Clear bags allow workers to more easily avoid getting pricked by used needles, or injured in some other way. Granted, the purpose does not always match the actual actions of the workers, but it affects the liability issue. Please also notice that if the bags are in a standard garbage can, so that the bags are not handled when the can is dumped, the risks go down immensely. If Auburnians would think of others' perspectives before writing an opinion here, it would make this forum a much more pleasant (and helpful) vehicle for change. "

Not as bored as you wrote on Jun 3, 2007 4:26 PM:

" It was a beautiful weekend and it is done raining. Why don't you guys go out and enjoy the weather instead of griping about trash bags and people that aren't as good at spelling as others? I've never seen so much compaining- Go for a walk or something. "

Brew wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:47 PM:

" Nobody is trying to control you fools by running a recyclable trash collection. If you can't even figure out the environmental benefits then look at the financial. You idiots are the same ones screaming about your tax dollars. Recycling can save tax dollars because if your garbage volume goes down because of a sucessful recycling program then you submit for bids for a lesser tonnage of garbage collected. You fools want to scrap it all because you can't locate or use clear garbage bags. What the heck is in your garbage that you have a privacy issue? If the garbage collector sees any bag but clear ones or sees any recyclables in you trash then it should be left for you to get it done correctly or in your language "git er dun" "

Unknown... wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:12 PM:

" Spelling Checker..."To those of you who complain about the spelling of some people." is an incomplete sentence.... "

The Animal wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:24 PM:

" strong black bags are my kind of color and they don't fall apart either "

Vote wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:31 PM:

" To try to put the casino issue on a ballot---FORGET IT--- YOUR VOTING PERCENTAGE IS LOUSY, and that is the bottom line. "

Now I have heard it all..lol wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:16 PM:

" Picketing grocers because they don't sell clear trash bags? Use white ones. Do you not have anything else to do with yourself? lol We have 20 some odd thousand people in this town with four grocery stores.....geesh...I could care less who carries what kind of trash bags and who doesn't. To be honest I don't even use grocery bags, I prefer the bags Wegmans had for 99 cents and are re usable. "

Spelling checkers wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:03 PM:

" To those of you who complain about the spelling of some people. If you have NEVER misspelled any words ever in your lifetime than you may correct the people, otherwise let people misspell, nobody is perfect. "Spell checker approved" "

cm wrote on Jun 3, 2007 12:44 PM:

" "brew" they have meds and doctors for OCC--they may be able to help your trash bag problem! Like I said I have yet o see a trashman "look and inspect" and trash bage or container he picks up-have you ever watched them go down your street? They pull up "grab" then "throw" and then "throw your can wherever and onto the next house. If they did bother to look they would see they left your trashcan rolling in the middle of the street along with trash that missed the truck! instead of protest your local grocer call a doctor! "

Your tax dollars... wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:27 AM:

" Hey, how about those guys that were "supposed" to be cutting the grass at Clifford Field the other day, but actually sat around for hours doing nothing??? "

Unknown... wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:25 AM:

" Well, as long as YOU know that I don't mispell words, or use incorrect grammar, that's all I care about!! "

Mickey Mouse wrote on Jun 3, 2007 11:10 AM:

" I am announcing my write in campaign for Auburn Mayor. Please vote for me, I really am the best announced candidate for the job! "

Evan wrote on Jun 3, 2007 10:31 AM:

" I would have walked back and spoken to those lousy dog owners but nobody was home. I will file a complaint with the SPCA, leaving that dog out in 80+ degrees and humid ALL day long how pathetic. "

Stop the Trashbag race war! wrote on Jun 3, 2007 9:21 AM:

" The Government needs to stay the heck out of my trash. Next thing you know, they are going to try to tell me what I can do in my bedroom. I yearn for a city where my children will be judged not by the color of their trashbags, but rather by the quality of their character. "

taxpayer1 wrote on Jun 3, 2007 8:27 AM:

" Brown's supporters need to move on. There is nothing to investigate. He was the prime suspect because he had threatened social workers and just got out of jail for that. He lied to the police about his alibi, and there was a connection between the victim and Brown related to his social services case taking his daughter away. There was nothing to connect the other guy to the murder that night. Back then, the DNA technology did NOT exist to make the connection that was made in 2006. THAT is the bottom line. You can't investigate anything more. The jury heard the evidence and believed Brown did it. There was an expert who testified his teeth matched. If he was wrong, then so be it, but he is dead, so what else can you do? Nothing. "

Brew wrote on Jun 3, 2007 2:17 AM:

" Trash removal is serious business not the mockery you clowns are making it. It is important to the city's budget and the environment. Clear bags are an integral part of a recycling program. If the trash collectors can't see if recyclables are in the bag then they will be taken to the landfill which will cause more expense for the city in trash volume and a ecological problem when you multiply this problem by thousands of trash pickups. If you want a successful recycling program then put pressure on the local retailers to stock the bags you need. Set up a picket line at the entrance of a retailer that doesn't stock clear bags and I bet they will have then in stock tommorrow. "

Hey Unknown.. wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:02 AM:

" magets magets magets. maggots maggots maggots. Who cares? People obviously know what the person was referring to. Oh, I think I'm typing to a person who has never made a typo before and speaks and types in perfect English. Silly me! "

Hey EVAN wrote on Jun 3, 2007 1:00 AM:

" Why don't you walk behind into your backyard and nicely ask your backyard neighbors to keep their dog quiet. There's nothing we can do about it on a computer. "

Oh no Mr. Bill Writes wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:27 PM:

" Why is it the Citizen edits or does not post anything they disagree with. I have never been libelous, obsecene,racist,threatening or insulting. Yet, whenever I write about the Mayor, Council, City Manager, Legislators, County manager, police department (Favorbly and unfavorably) my post never make the blog or the paper. "

cm wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:50 PM:

" Your clear trash bag law shoud be in the book of corney laws! I do believe that not one of those trashmen care what color the bag is! How many other towns have this stupid law? "

im so sad wrote on Jun 2, 2007 5:45 PM:

" to see what this city has evolved into. It seems as if everyone is out for themselves around here. As long and they and there's are doing well, they could care less about anyone else. And they will be the first to say, "get a job" Well, how did they get there job, certaintly not based on there merits, 9 times out of 10 it was because they were related to someone. this is a big reason why things are not being done correctly, because the people in charge have no idea what they are doing, remember they werent hired because of there merit. i havent lived in any other small towns so i cant say that i dont know if this is true of all small towns or not, but it certaintly isn't fair for the rest of us taxpayers who work hard and only want to see our hard earned money being spent fairly and wisely. "

Scary on all levels wrote on Jun 2, 2007 5:26 PM:

" And no one has anything to say about the President granting himself unlimited powers over and above the Constitution, though you're happy to debate the color of trashbags all day long. And people wonder why Auburn is going down the tubes (which I won't argue!) "

taxpayer wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:53 PM:

" Would like to say what a great job they did on west genesee st ,you know fixing all the potholes. But I cant,I can;t beleive my eyes they filled the holesssssss and made road twice as bad.Unbeleivably Cheap,This City is ran by thee worst I've ever seen. The road will be redone again before summers over,not a problem just raise taxes. "

Local Advocator wrote on Jun 2, 2007 3:19 PM:

" Well I will say I wish we would all just stop complaining and start doing something about it. Many complain and only 1% take action. It is time that we all band together and make this a happy, healthier and safer place to live. I know I am doing my share. "

June wrote on Jun 2, 2007 2:01 PM:

" I can't believe that the Social Security office is closing in Auburn. What's next? You don't have an Auto Club office, no department stores to speak of and now no Sociel Security office. The next thing will be the Post Office. Auburn is going down the tube fast. It used to be a lovely city but it has declined rapidly. I lived in Auburn for 50 years and loved it but moved to Florida almost 20 years ago and instead of losing everything here we are gaining more and more services. Wake up Auburnians - demand that these services stay with you. Otherwise Auburn is going to fade into a very small town. "

Mexicans Are Coming wrote on Jun 2, 2007 1:11 PM:

" "TO DREAM THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM, TO FIGHT THE UNBEATABLES FOE....TO REACH THE UNREACHABLE STARS,-----no matter how you sing the song, THIS IS THE AMERICAN DREAM and everyone has the right to make ends meet. So lets work together for humanity reasons, as MLK would say,"hand in hand, we will walk into the future, TOGETHER." "

Unknown... wrote on Jun 2, 2007 12:54 PM:

" M-A-G-G-O-T-S.....Maggots "

hmmm wrote on Jun 2, 2007 12:20 PM:

" Hell with the color of trash bags,just give me some bags that keep magets of of them and I'll be happy then a pig in crap, I never miss a trash day and within 1 week magets are crawling all the cans,dam getting heebee jeebees writing this "

people suck! wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:55 AM:

" for real. What's wrong with this world? I'm so sick of all of you self-righteous crybabies! Just becasue something dosen't suit you or work the way you want it to, then Oh, It has to change. Well, the world dosen't revolve around you, so get over your egocentrism's and learn to adapt, you'll find that your life will much eaiser and less stressful, and maybe you wont have to visit auburnpub so much. "

voter wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:44 AM:

" Katie Lacey should resign. party chairs are supposed to ensure their party wins elections not help their opponents. Auburn Democrats need a new leader "

Auburn wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:21 AM:

" I use clear trash bags and I DO NOT recycle, I throw out whatever I want and ya know what??? The garbage men DO NOT CARE!!! They throw it all in the garbage truck every week. Also I have SEEN with my own 2 eyes recyclables in this City being landfilled anyway so what is the POINT????? "

Evan wrote on Jun 2, 2007 11:20 AM:

" I live on Evans St. and right behind me on Sherman St. is my back yard neighbor. They lock thier obnoxious little dog out in a cage in thier/my backyard and all it does all day long is bark bark bark. How inconsiderate of others! Shame on you lousy dog owner that does nothing but lock it outside to irritate your neighbors, have you no consideration for others? Obviously NOT! "

Dave wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:58 AM:

" Deport all the illegals all 12 million of them. Then keeep them out "

To his exalted excellence of Trash wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:47 AM:

" The law says that Conty Legislators should not serve more than twelve CONSECUTIVE years. THe law says that you are not supposed to PUNCH someone in the eye. When our local leaders follow the law, I will consider ensuring my trash bags are the right color to appease the Trash Nazis. Until then, Stay out of my trash and stop tailgating me on Grant Avenue. "

Here's a tissue... wrote on Jun 2, 2007 10:35 AM:

" WHAAAAH!!!! Call the WHAAAAmbulance-people can't find clear trash bags. How is one to discard their WHAAAmburger and French CRY wrappers?!! "

R W A wrote on Jun 2, 2007 9:13 AM:

" White color trash bags. Somebody needs to find something to do. "

R W A wrote on Jun 2, 2007 9:09 AM:

" AT that time if Brown didn't go to jail for 1 thing he would't have went for another. "

Trash bags wrote on Jun 2, 2007 8:58 AM:

" We aren't anal about the color of your garbage bags -- the law says they must be clear so you can't put recyclables in the trash ... or cut-up body parts or other illegal or dangerous substances. No one cares if you have purple polka dots on your trashbags as long as they are clear. "

The Dictator at Home wrote on Jun 2, 2007 8:56 AM:

" NO, but Hitler did take power by first being elected Chancellor, then granting himself "emergency powers" of dictatorship -- such as Bush quietly gave himself back at the beginning of May. Check it out for yourself with a little research if you don't believe me, or start listening to NPR. Why does George W feel the need to give himself the ability to declare himself dictator (not the term used, but the powers are the same) unless he's hoping to use those powers? Why is this story so out of the public eye? "

rd wrote on Jun 2, 2007 7:34 AM:

" I never seen a city where all the people do is b---h about everything. Even when their being fixed. Or when we get a new person on board, who can run this city better than it was, all they do is complain. MAYBE SOME OF OUR CRONIC COMPLAINERS SHOULD STEP FORWARD NEXT TIME AND RUN THE CITY AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO BETTER. SO STOP ALL THE COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME ABOUT EVERYTHING. AND LOOK AT OR FOR PROGRESS IN OUR CITY "

The Bone wrote on Jun 2, 2007 7:26 AM:

" To the person who wrote-- Oh boy, just what we need - a Bill Clinton type for mayor of Auburn. Give me a break.If you dont like it Run for Mayor your self and see how easy it is. "

Anyone? wrote on Jun 2, 2007 2:46 AM:

" Boy the coverage of our local governemnet is totally lacking. Does anyone know what Auburn Local Law number 4 of 2007 was and why it was repealed so quickly? "

Hey Colonel wrote on Jun 2, 2007 2:24 AM:

" Do you really care what color my trashbags are? You must be one truly anal control freak!! "

LOL wrote on Jun 2, 2007 12:49 AM:

" I'll have to check my history books for the chapter where Hitler conquered the world.. "

Brew wrote on Jun 2, 2007 12:47 AM:

" No you fool let's just deport 12 million people. Changing a law is not treason. Then not whipping black people would be treason since it was once legal. Or drinking booze is treason because it was not legal. This proves that right wing republicans are heartless uncaring fools to their fellow man. "

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