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Two Cents

Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:21 AM EDT

Seventy five years ago my mother taught me that if I do not have anything nice to say about a person, do not say anything at all, and that the Lord works in mysterious ways. Since I have been a firearms owner, NRA instructor, competition shooter and hunter for 55 years, I have nothing to say about Sen. Charles Schumer, and thank you, Lord, for his tick.

Thank you so much, Auburn Police, for your response to the two loud, drunken “animal house” parties, vandalism and trespassing incidents that occurred Sunday night on Bellevue and Woodruff Place, and thanks to all hard-working family-oriented people in our neighborhood who spotted vandals, called in complaints, etc. Landlords, it is up to you to evict the bad elements now, so that good people can sleep at night.

I didn't realize that Lake Avenue is a drag-strip raceway, especially when the kids drive to school and at the end of the school day. Where are the police - do we not pay enough taxes for your salary?

I guess it depends on who you talk to about a casino, whether it be the Bible-thumping, do-gooder hypocrites or the average citizen who enjoys this type of entertainment. Put the casino issue to a vote and let the residents of Cayuga and Seneca counties decide.

Auburn implemented a city-wide ordinance prohibiting truckers from using loud engine brakes. The city should also go after unnecessarily loud motorcycles, mufflers, car stereos, etc.

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The Citizens' Say

There are 42 comment(s)

Zebra crossing wrote on Jun 1, 2007 2:04 PM:

" I've been nearly hit crossing in the crosswalk in front of the Seymour Library too. I don't think people actually learn those driving rules -- maybe it's the lack of Drivers Ed.... "

Not to mention crosswalks wrote on Jun 1, 2007 12:13 PM:

" Not only do people in Auburn pay no attention to the speedlimit, they pay less attention to CROSSWALKS. Newsflash to all the morons out there, if someone wants to cross on a crosswalk, the law states you have to stop. Period. You have to. OnceI was crossing in front of the Y when a car came speeding up towards me and started swearing at me. Nice. And yesterday downtown, a woman and her small kids were trying to cross by seymour library. I stopped. Took 5 or 6 cars on the other side of the road to stop for her. People are lazy and rude! It is a sad world we live in today! "

HERE YOU GO wrote on Jun 1, 2007 11:03 AM:

" TO ALL OF THE "CRAZY" DRIVERS, THERE ARE FAST JERKS AND SLOW JERKS THAT DONT KNOW WHAT THE HECK THEY ARE DOING! tHE CASINO I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS FOR, IT WILL BRING ALOT OF BUSINESS TO OUR AREA ALONG WITH MORE WEIRDOS! AUBURN HAS ENOUGH I THINK...AS FOR THE POLICE THEY ARE ALWAYS THERE WHEN YOU DONT WANT THEM TO BE AND NEVER THERE WHEN YOU NEED THEM...MURPHYS LAW. "

get over your self wrote on Jun 1, 2007 9:38 AM:

" my god---we all complain that the economy stinks--bringing in a casino would bring in money and jobs--yet we all complain about that. Just because people go to the casino-it does not mean they have a problem. I have been to vegas so by some of your standards I must have a huge problem, and I buy scratch off lottery tickets ohh i hope someone intervens and saves me from my addiction--seriously this whole argument is ridiculous. As for the speed limit- I am pretty sure we all were driving at 16/17 did we all stink too? People in glass houses should not throw stones!! "

Bobbo wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:35 AM:

" CEO's are hired to make money for the stock holders. They often must cut costs and increase efficiency to do this, but it is supply and demand of skilled workers determines employee salaries (including the CEO). If they break the law, they are sued or fired or even sent to prison. This is the way capitalism works, and it works very well when allowed to do so without government interference as you can see by the booming capitalist economy of ours. The republicans have helped by cutting taxes which allows more investment and believe it or not higher tax revenue. Capitalism is a very competetive system which gives people and companies incentives to better themselves. It allows anyone to aquire wealth or lose everything regardless of social class. The democrat party promises wealth redistribution regardless of merit which removes incentives to work hard. This hinders economic growth, keeps people in poverty, and gives the democrats an even larger voting base of poor, uninformed voters who are foolish enough to believe in the promise of something for nothing. You have earn it. "

Obvious wrote on Jun 1, 2007 8:32 AM:

" I seem to recall all these same arguments about gambling addiction and the subsequent family wrecking that would occur when OTB came into being. I, for one, haven't seen it happen. Does anyone else have a horror story? "

Well if that isn't a typical Auburn Driver wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:50 AM:

" Wake up idiot wrote: "Some people are skilled enough to drive 40 to 50 or even 65 mph and can be perfectly safe." Here's our problem -- people who think laws only apply to other people and they can do what they want because they have decided it's safe. WRONG! It has nothing to do with skill, w-u-idiot -- it has to do with what the law says is safe -- you aren't the law, you don't get to decide, and many of us don't agree that you have the skills you CLAIM to have anyway. It reminds me of a nutso neighbor I had once who kept firing his gun uphill towards our property. When the police came to make him stop, he argued with them that it was "safe" so he could do it even though it is totally against the law to discharge a firearm with in a certain distance of any residence. That's what's wrong with our world around here -- people who truly believe they are above the law, that they know better and because they believe they know better, they have the right to do as they please. GET OFF THE ROAD, you maniac, before you kill someone in your arrogant assumption of your supposed "skills!" "

Bobbo wrote on Jun 1, 2007 7:44 AM:

" As the designated creator of new words, 'adversely' shall mean 'opposite in position' in the context it was used. And even though you can find this word in any reputable dictionary, they usually don't give me credit for creating it, but don't worry because the lawsuit is in the works. By the way, neologism is not hyphenated. "

Auburn Casino? wrote on May 31, 2007 9:50 PM:

" I say, "No casino in Auburn unless Auburn residents can legally own it and operate it!" "

Auburn driver wrote on May 31, 2007 9:29 PM:

" I'm the guy that drives down the aerterial, picking my nose, sometimes I like to roll all the windows down, and turn up the stereo real loud, because I like to hear the bass go boom boom boom, I know it annoys you that's why I do it. and if I'm doing the speed limit, and I see you behind me, I gradually slow down, Just make to make you mad. I like it even more if I can box you in, I'll speed up just a little bit, to catch up with the other car, to make you think you can pass me.ha ha ha. These are good times. I like it even more, if Im putzing around with no place to go, and then I decide at the last minute to turn right, and you have to slam on your brakes. ha ha ha. "

David wrote on May 31, 2007 9:23 PM:

" Auburn resident if a casino comes to a vote. I doubt it will ever get farther than a wet dream. Since any agreements will effect Cayuga and Seneca counties. No chance of ever seeing it go that far. When water runs up hill. Your wish of a vote for just the city of Auburn thinking is invalid. It would be both counties. FYI the Cayuga and Cayuga Seneca tribes lost their land claim in the Supreme court. Why are our county and city leaders, still playing games? They want to give up 10,000 acres to be soveregin afterwards? "

CaSINo wrote on May 31, 2007 9:17 PM:

" Will you people give it up! It's time for Mayor Lattimore and his council to seriously look into helping inventors out. go to InventorED.org and look at all the people who have great inventions, they just need help, example a building to set up shop in. a break on taxes, etc.etc. This city has numerous empty buildings everywhere. How hard would it be for our elected officials to make some phone calls, pull some strings. Help some entrepenuers out, in turn it creats new jobs for our city. THIS IS THE ANSWER. GET IT DONE! "

How's your road rage? wrote on May 31, 2007 7:58 PM:

" I used to go with the flow of traffic of the Arterial. Then I found out going the speed limit ticks a bunch of you off. Now I go either the speed limit or just a touch under it. Oh, and look out, because I frequently change lanes without rhyme nor reason. "

wake up idiot wrote on May 31, 2007 7:47 PM:

" Aparently, those of you going 30mph dont know why there is a left and a right lane.If your in the left lane and are going slow move the ???? over.Some people are skilled enough to drive 40 to 50 or even 65 mph and can be perfectly safe.Heres another piece of advice take side streets or genesee street and get out of my way!!!!!! "

Adversley? wrote on May 31, 2007 7:30 PM:

" Now there's an interesting neo-logism -- but what does it mean, o creator of new words? "

Auburn resident wrote on May 31, 2007 7:23 PM:

" To end all this casino bull, just let the residents of Auburn vote. The majority wins, then build one. Those who still oppose then MOVE to the hills!!! "

Karl L. wrote on May 31, 2007 7:06 PM:

" KevIn, as usual, a comment that adds NOTHING to the conversation; go back to your Ann Coulter book and stir your milk...Bobbo, it may be that tazes are driving the loss of business and jobs, but plain ol GREED is behind WHY it is; look at the salaries of the CEO's and their "profit taking"--they are plundering peoples' pensions, retirement benefits, health plans and lowering wages or firing invested workers in order to hire low-cost illegals or foreigners so they can pad their own retirement and off-shore accounts. Thats not because the companies are being taxed; that's good ol' fashioned GREED! It's like "The Great Plunder"! And along with it it's destroying our tax base and endangering America's very future--and the Republican Party is aiding and abbetting it all the way. "

AJ wrote on May 31, 2007 6:11 PM:

" I couldn't have said it better Karl. Also, big government is not necessarily a bad thing if it protects the little guy from the corporate swine. Even most wingers would no doubt agree that we need protection from predatory capitalists when the argument is properly framed. Just a couple of examples of the things we rely on goverment to do: ensure our food and water supplies are safe (granted it's doing a better job these days of protecting the corporate interests), police and fire protection, regulate automobile safety and product safety in general, maintain our roads, provide at least a minimum level of a safety net to help people who fall through the cracks in the system - and there are many in a capitalist system (although it fails miserably in this regard). I could go on and on but I think most will get the point. Whenever you have corporate entities that essentially can live in perpetuity and grow to enormous size, there HAS to be some checks in place. Personally, I believe corporate charters should never be granted in perpetuity and they should prove their worth regularly or lose them, and their size should be limited, just as they did decades ago. I also feel that one of the major problems of corporations is the notion that they have the same rights as people, which is patently absurd. Capitalism has indeed allowed for many great things, but it has to be kept in check. Karl made it pretty clear why. "

to wake up: wrote on May 31, 2007 5:25 PM:

" the answer to your question is YES, and DUH. "

CAUTION wrote on May 31, 2007 5:09 PM:

" To all that have hire a local lawyer, make sure that you have them quote their rate IN WRITING!!!! Especially when buying a house. A local lawyer quoted me one price over the phone and then at the closing overbilled me by $700.00! And from what I've been told this is a common practice with this lawyer. Shameful! "

scared wrote on May 31, 2007 4:59 PM:

" I almost got rear-ended today. It was VERY close. So close I am still shaking. Guess who was driving? A young, stud muffin boy that was probably about 16 or 17 yrs. old out for a ride with his girlie. Learn how to drive and watch the road! NOT your girlfriend!!! "

keven wrote on May 31, 2007 4:18 PM:

" right, karl doesnt want govt. dictating to you, he wants that job for himself. "

Bobbo wrote on May 31, 2007 4:04 PM:

" Well Karl, I guess I can finally agree with you on at least one thing; I don't think the government should dictate what you can and cannot do. Although, its a little too easy to blame corporate America for everything. Adversley it is big government with its restrictions, regulations and taxes on corporations that has driven jobs and savings out of this country. If you read the 'fair tax' book (written by a libertarian) you would understand that if implemented, the 'fair tax' would bring back the incentives for businesses, jobs, and personal savings to all the American people. You see, corporations aren't bad for Americans, big government and taxes are. But you'll never learn that listening to Democracy Now. "

go wrote on May 31, 2007 4:03 PM:

" 30 mph is not a snails pace at all! It's rather pretty fast. Be considerate and go to speed limit. You are the reason accidents happen - high speed and carelessness. Also, 16 year olds suck at driving. They are rude, reckless and inexperienced as a 40 year old women. Granted them old ladies cut in front of me from time to time but they are far more careful. "

Say NO to the casiNO wrote on May 31, 2007 3:25 PM:

" The fact that the "average citizen" in Auburn gambles is exactly the problem -- Auburn has a serious problem with gambling addiction and that's WITHOUT a casino. Say NO WAY! "

Andy B. wrote on May 31, 2007 3:07 PM:

" The average citizen does go to casinos. They go play a little blackjack with friends and maybe catch a show or something. "

Karl L wrote on May 31, 2007 2:42 PM:

" Good to hear I'm not the only atheist in Auburn! "

Karl L wrote on May 31, 2007 2:40 PM:

" Bobbo, I support Capitalism too, but not rampant Corporate greed leaning toward Economic Fascism, which is happening today. I'm sure AJ would concur with me. By libertarian I mean I don't think the government should dictate what you can do or not, unless your actions seriously endanger your fellow citizens and the collective good. How that may be defined, I realize , is a matter of interpretation, but seriously, the "free market" as it's been skewed and perverted by corporations today is certainly NOT for the collective good, and the statistics prove it as far as personal savings, income, etc. "

AnnoyedbyRover wrote on May 31, 2007 2:35 PM:

" Isn't there supposed to be a Leash Law in the City of Auburn? I live on a street that is highly traveled and there are dogs in the neighborhood that are let out and roam free. A few times these dogs have almost been hit. Here is a nice thought. Please Keep your Dogs tied up! Before they get hurt or someone else gets hurt. "

Bobbo wrote on May 31, 2007 1:36 PM:

" Karl, don't you mean liberal leaning. Libertarians support free market capitalism, not condemn it like AJ. "

the "average citizen" wrote on May 31, 2007 1:12 PM:

" The "average citizen" does not go to casinos. "

VanAnden Street Resident wrote on May 31, 2007 1:10 PM:

" VanAnden Street Dweller is correct, it is aweful...expecially one motorcyle gentleman who i plan to catch this year.. it is aweful.. i do have 4 children and they are not even allowed in the front of my house for that reason..plus its summer and the bar drunks will now be walking by.... "

to Lake ave. wrote on May 31, 2007 1:06 PM:

" You must of forgot it one of the highest pay police dept. around this area and our taxes show it!. "

conservative athiest wrote on May 31, 2007 1:02 PM:

" I'm a conservative athiest who's for the casino. Let the free market decide if it works or not. If nobody goes, they shut down. "

To 75 years ago wrote on May 31, 2007 12:47 PM:

" I guess that after all this time you have decided not to take your mother's advice. If you had, we would not had heard from you. "

VanAnden Dweller wrote on May 31, 2007 12:45 PM:

" You want a good drag strip? Many people use VanAnden St. from the corner of Cross St. to the corner of Washington St. as a drag strip. Surprisingly, no kids have been hit yet. "

shoemaster wrote on May 31, 2007 12:37 PM:

" 30 mph??? too fast.. i practically fall asleep at that snails pace. keep the seniors and women who are always fixing their hair and makeup off the road it it would be 3000% safer. many 16 year olds have better driving skills and a 40 year old woman "

Liberals against the casino wrote on May 31, 2007 12:31 PM:

" I'm an academic and atheist and surely also an "average citizen" -- and I strenuously oppose a casino in Auburn. You have to get over your stereotyped attacks on anyone who doesn't agree with your POV. "

animal lover wrote on May 31, 2007 12:25 PM:

" An open letter to Paris Hilton wannabees and other dog and cat owners...tired of chasing your animals around, because they're lost, just spent my lunch time chasing a loose chihuahua around on Burt Ave...I hope you find your dog...Keep your animals in or on a leash!!!! "

Karl L. wrote on May 31, 2007 12:18 PM:

" I'm a Bible-burning, libertarian-leaning Atheist--and even I recognize the disastrous effects a casino would have on this community. You want a casino, go to Turning Stone. "

cheers wrote on May 31, 2007 12:09 PM:

" cheers to the police for breaking up the loud parties! Good to hear they're ttrying to clean it up. "

wake up wrote on May 31, 2007 11:58 AM:

" The entire city is a raceway. No one wants to go 30 mph anywhere. Always got someone riding my butt to go faster. Is everyone in that much of a hurry to endanger everyone around them by speeding? 30 mph is even too fast for some of these roads. "

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