Palesh abandons trash proposal

By Jessica Soule / The Citizen

Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:15 PM EDT

The community's frosty reception will cause Auburn to drop a proposed tax levy decrease and flat rate for trash disposal.
City Manager Mark Palesh made his decision to drop the budget's plan to reduce property taxes by 11 percent and impose a $108 annual fee for garbage collection after, to his surprise, Auburn city councilors told him they wouldn't support it.

“I think it's wrong to punish the poor block with the $50,000 houses and the lower incomes or the lower assessed value,” Councilor Matt Smith said.

The break even point is about $70,000 assessed value. Property owners over that limit would save more money on the tax cut than the $108 trash fee.

Homeowners with lower assessed value would not.

The city boasts 3,150 single family homes assessed for $70,000 or more, City Assessor Sue Chandler said.

This leaves 2,486 single family homes assessed for less than that key amount.

Rick Colavito, chairman of the Solid Waste Advisory Committee which came up with the plan, said a flat fee would prove more fair to residents than forcing a floating rate that would allow some residents to pay $70 while others paid $200 for the same service.

“Well, the alternative isn't fair,” Smith responded to that concept. “It's not fair to have the lower income people to take up the burden. It should be the high income residents.”

Currently, residents pay $1.43 per $1,000 of their properties' assessed values. Under the plan, city officials would have removed that figure from the taxes and instead would have funded trash collection with the flat rate of $9 per month for each home, apartment unit and business.

However, most officials agree the city should continue to explore getting the tax-exempt properties to contribute to the garbage disposal fund, even though the garbage fee plan is removed from the budget proposal.

Councilor David Dempsey said he wouldn't back a plan that didn't decrease everyone's expense.

“I'm flabbergasted. This is the first time (in my experience) people have turned down a tax decrease,” Palesh said.

Colavito too was taken back by the opposition the proposal received. People have misconceptions that residents had to pay twice, or that this was a cash cow for the city, he said. The fund would have been self-sustaining, only increasing when the cost of disposal rose.

However, Smith pointed to the fact that some businesses would have paid twice if they contracted for trash services. Colavito suggested the money saved by the tax decrease would have made up for the extra $108 annual cost.

Also, the larger corporations are subsidizing other people's trash service, and the plan was designed to have everyone to pay their share, Colavito said.

“I think the issue is that the plan originally suggested to decrease taxes but it didn't decrease (expenses) for people with assessments of $50,000 or lower,” Dempsey said. “It's not fair for lower income of the community.”

But Colavito says the council isn't being fair to other residents and businesses who overpay.

“I see both sides of the arguments but something has to be done,” Colavito said.

Staff writer Jessica Soule can be reached at 253-5311, ext 267 or jessica.soule@lee.net

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The trash issue wrote on May 18, 2007 4:59 AM:

" sin't about the "rich" or "poor" at all. It's about getting the 2300+ non-profits, which are businesses, to pay for city services just like the taxpaying homeowners. Now that's FAIR. How is it nobody has ever gotten them to pay for this service before. That's alot of money not collected and put on the backs of everyone else. They make good money from the state and federal finds they collect. Make them pay! "

STOP with the theory wrote on May 17, 2007 11:30 PM:

" "Rich" or "poor". The real issue is and has been 2300+ Non-profits are getting city trash/Recycling services for FREE. They may be Non-profits, but they're still a business and SHOULD be PAYING for this service and NOT on the backs of taxpaying Homeowners. PERIOD. Get them to pay as they should. That's alot of $$$$$ folks. Alot! "

Wow wrote on May 17, 2007 10:30 PM:

" I just moved here from Buffalo where every home pays for trash. You are issued trash bins plus a recycling bin. All recyclables get picked up every week - no calendar! The cans are picked up by a special lift truck, much like a dumpster, saving labor. For a large bin I paid $14/month. No one of course was happy at first, but there's no question the system works. Hey, if some one had told you in 1973 that you would be paying $50+ per month for TV in 2007 would you have believed them?? "

Joke wrote on May 17, 2007 10:28 PM:

" This town will never amount to anything. Nobody wants to think creatively. If they do they are lambasted. Mr. Colavito's idea have some merit. Everyone that owns property in the city should pay. Non profit, rich, poor, county owned properties. The rich should not make up for the free loaders in the city enjoying our services. Its is time for a change Colavito for Mayor "

The Truth wrote on May 17, 2007 6:14 PM:

" This trash tax was not fair. No way yuo can argue that it is, unless you are a moron with completely flawed reasoning skills. "

I can't believe it wrote on May 17, 2007 6:05 PM:

" Unfortunately Mr. Palesh is getting his first taste of the dysfunctional nature of Auburn politics. Auburn is a city that wants to fail. Like a woman in an abusive relationship the city of Auburn is so convinced it’s a looser that it can not seem to get out of its current situation to help itself. How about focusing on building a city where there are no homes assessed below the $70,000 mark. Then it would be fair for everyone and it would be a sign that Auburn is headed in the right direction for a change. "

Randy wrote on May 17, 2007 5:26 PM:

" Why not make it a pay for what you use system. Then everyone pays for their fair share based on the amount they generate, which to some degree you can control. Fairness oh I forgot this is Cayuga County and that dosen't play here, silly me. "

thats why wrote on May 17, 2007 5:23 PM:

" You know, it's stupid decisions like this that make me want to move out of the city. So because I decided to do something with my life and have a nice home, I should have to pay 5x (or more) for trash pick up than the 'poor' people. Trash is trash - it shouldn't depend on how nice of a house you own. Wake up city council - weren't you voted in to make decisions that would be in the best interest of the city - not just the poor people? I hope you dont plan on running for another term, because you sure won't get my vote!!! "

VINCENT wrote on May 17, 2007 5:14 PM:

" NOW LOOK WHAT THE CITY STARTED. ANOTHER FIGHT. "

Cheap wrote on May 17, 2007 2:57 PM:

" $108 a year for trash pick up is cheap. I pay that per quarter outside the city for private pick up. That may be an alternative privitize it and pay about $500 per year. "

Unbelievable! wrote on May 17, 2007 1:59 PM:

" Why should the "rich" have to pay more for the same service? The "poor" don't own houses anyway. I know a lot of "rich" people that live in houses assessed at less than $30,000.00 and they can afford to pay the $108.00 more than the people in the houses that cost more. "

Flat Fee wrote on May 17, 2007 1:20 PM:

" A flat fee for EVERYONE would be fair. Why should I as a "high income" household pick up the slack for the "poor". No offense but the fact in the matter is these people (poor) create more trash for some reason. Same with the police department for some reason they spend all their efforts in these neighborhoods. Antoher drain on the rich. Pay up or get out of town! "

Andy B. wrote on May 17, 2007 12:57 PM:

" This is ridiculous. I pity Palesh for having to deal with those morons. It is bad enough that New York State is a socialist nightmare. Aburn is just making it worse. As soon as somebody tries to change this city for the better they get blocked. Why should I have to pay for somebody else's trash pick up? "

Mike wrote on May 17, 2007 12:57 PM:

" Ricky is just looking out for himself, Dont be fooled !!! After all he is just a tax payer !!! "

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