City parking kiosks could multiply

By Jessica Soule / The Citizen

Tuesday, May 8, 2007 11:43 AM EDT

Now that contractors have begun improvement plans in Auburn's downtown, City Manager Mark Palesh suggested the Auburn City Council consider replacing parking meters with kiosks in certain areas.
“I'm not someone who wants to do a project just to go back a year later and rip it out,” Palesh said. “The first thing out of taxpayers' mouths is why didn't you do that in the first place.”

For $90,000, the city can purchase 10 kiosks. For each kiosk, the city could remove nine or 10 meters from the curb.

During a discussion last week, councilor Thomas McNabb voiced some concern about the idea of spending that amount of money to replace meters that function properly.

Auburn Police Chief Gary Giannotta reminded council that if they did decide to order the kiosks, city employees could then replace older models with the surplus devises.

Tony Piccolo, president of Auburn Downtown Business Improvement District, said he supported the concept but would broach the subject Wednesday to the whole BID membership.

“I think we should go forward with it. It would clean up downtown,” Piccolo said.

Mayor Timothy Lattimore said people with mobility issues may have problems putting money in kiosks and going back to their vehicles to put the ticket there. However, the kiosks would allow for easier maintenance, he added.

Both Piccolo and Giannotta said residents and customers find the city's only parking kiosk on State Street easy to use.

Unlike the State Street device, the new meters would not be specific to spaces. This means for the time paid for, a driver could move their car to any space covered by a kiosk using their original ticket, Giannotta said. The State Street kiosk was an experiment that taught the city parking by space didn't work out, he added.

The new kiosks would be a pay and display model.

“The executive committee is 100 percent behind this,” Piccolo added. “The timing is right. No one likes meters. They are so ugly.”

Time is an important factor in the idea. If council agreed to buy the kiosks, it would take three months for them to arrive, and that would be after a bid process, Giannotta said.

The construction crews could temporarily fix the solutions with the curbs until they receive the kiosks and could remove the meters, he added.

The city needs a pay-for-parking system to ensure turnover in the spots, Giannotta said.

Many business owners and workers leave their cars in spaces during the days. Meters encourage people to open up spaces for customers and clients.

“It's not a money issue. That's paramount... If there were no meters, there would be no places to park,” Giannotta said.

Staff writer Jessica Soule can be reached at 253-5311, ext 267 or jessica.soule@lee.net

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ulterior motives wrote on May 9, 2007 11:54 AM:

" I know what the city is up to, they are hoping that some people will get lazy, and not buy a ticket, therefore they can write more tickets, and make more money that way. "

c wrote on May 9, 2007 8:32 AM:

" Re: kiosks....no no no! Ease for the disabled? I would think the end result would be LESS traffic for downtown. What is it we're trying to accomplish here?? "

NICK wrote on May 8, 2007 4:11 PM:

" TO ANSWER THE EMAIL REGARDING WHY AUBURN DID NOT COPY ITHICA WITH A 2 HOUR FREE PARKING PLAN , AUBURN DID COPY UTICA----APD BLAMED THE MECHANTS FOR ITS SUBSEQUENT FAILURE. IN TRUTH IT WAS APD CHARGED WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE 2 HOUR PLAN NOT THE MERCHANTS. PART OF THE PLAN WAS APD UTIALIZING THE "BOOT" (NEVER USED) , CITY ACTUALLY PURCHASED $20,000 IN HAND HELD COMPUTERS AS ENFORCEMENT TOOLS USED BY METER OFFICERS, AND OTHER METHODS. A LESS THAN ENTHUSIASTIC EFFORT WAS PUT FORTH BY THE CITY FOR A RESPECTABLE AMOUNT OF TIME UNTIL IT FAILED. MANY BELIEVE SOME OF THE CITY OFFICIALS WERE HAPPY TO SEE IT FAIL. SO PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE PARKING REVENUE IS NOT A MONEY ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS ---FORGET A PUBLIC AND BUSINESS FRIENDLY ENVIROMENT. NEXT WE GO TO THE WORLD OF KIOSKS. "

taxpayer1 wrote on May 8, 2007 3:52 PM:

" I have dealt with the stupid kiosk system in Syracuse and it is nothing but a pain. First of all, you don't know where to park and people don't park in the "spaces" that used to be delineated by where the meters were located. That means fewer spaces available. Then you have to find a kiosk and once I got a ticket because I had gone to the wrong kiosk for the space I parked in. It takes extra time to go back and forth to pay the kiosk and put the ticket back in your car, which means locking the car to go to find a kiosk and then unlocking it again to put the ticket on the dashboard and then remembering to lock it up again. Auburn does not need these stupid things. I like the meters and so does everyone who actually has to use them! "

R W A wrote on May 8, 2007 3:16 PM:

" I lived in Auburn for 20 years 15 years ago and come back each year for an summer visit. Take a lok look at Ithaca and copy them. At this point it goes backward yearly. "

D wrote on May 8, 2007 1:53 PM:

" We have these kiosks in Syracuse. I HATE THEM. Yes sometimes you are parked 6 to 10 cars away only to find the kiosk doesn't work. What a royal pain. Forget about being in a hurry and have only 15 to 20 minutes as you'll spend it going back and forth with the ticket and putting money in the kiosk etc etc. What they really want is for you to park in a LOT. More exspensive but less hassale. d "

dumb people wrote on May 8, 2007 1:01 PM:

" UNBELEIVABLE...Wait until winter time, when the stupid things freeze up, and wont work, or they get vandalized, then what, we all get to park for free. That's cool. How much does it cost to replace the ink, and paper that has to be filled in these things? Or are they going to raise the cost of parking to cover it? STUPID...You guys better do some more in depth planning. Spend the $90,000 on some flower pots, and trees, if you want to beautify downtown. "

Footballer wrote on May 8, 2007 12:20 PM:

" "The timing is right." "No one likes meters." "They are so ugly.” You're talkin' Downtown Auburn! Spend 90k on something useful, like classes on how to beautify a once grand and glorious City. Parking meters are ugly? Concentrate on how to be small and efficient. How can Skaneateles be so "together" and Auburn be so "out of it?" "

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