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Two Cents

Monday, April 30, 2007 10:22 AM EDT

If Tim Lattimore is without sin, he can cast the first stone against David Dempsey.

A father is an occupational hazard for the happy bachelors. A father is the one whom the marriage points to.

Thank you for printing the wisdom of Karl Logan. He is a joy to read and he is ethical, sensible and writes with clarity.

I think it is time to put all the religious testimonials on the religion page, don't you?

Parents are the hardships of a child's life.

I don't understand why a man gets 10 years in prison for his victims not getting injured, but yet a woman can kill her autistic son and serve five years in this wonderful Cayuga County judicial system.

This is for those of you who deliver the special edition of The Citizen on Saturday morning. Throwing them in people's driveways and on the sidewalk is called littering and there is a fine for this.

Like the labor unions helped destroy the auto industry, the teachers union and CSEA unions are destroying homeowners in New York. And the politicians let it continue.

Rev. Jackson and Rev. Sharpton are no religious leaders; religious leaders forgive.

It's a shame that a building that once housed a factory has to be taken over by condos. Don't you get it, City Hall?

Hey, school parents, let's keep Bristol Avenue clean and park on the road and not the grass.

A Democrat ticket of Dacey for mayor and McNabb and Quill for council would be the weakest ticket the Democrats have ever run in Auburn.

On Tuesday, April 25, 2007 a 17-year-old was sentenced to 4 - 6 months in jail for unlawfully dealing with a child. Seems odd that a 17-year -old would receive jail time for such a small offense while being a youthful offender.

The Skaneateles board realistically regarded the heavy burden on the taxpayers in ending the oppressive, expensive medical coverage of employees. The city, county and schools should adopt the same tax savings for its citizens - we've had enough!

Shame on The Citizen for printing the self-righteous bigotry of Marie Spinosa in her anti-gay marriage tirade.

Many children that you see “acting out” or that have a “lack of parenting” has nothing to do with the parents or the way they are being raised; they simply cannot control the way they act. On the surface, individuals who have autism are physically indistinguishable from those without, so please next time you judge a family, really think about it.

Cato has suffered a huge loss with the death of Gerry Van Horn. He will be greatly missed by his family and friends.

It is not the union workers who have destroyed the automobile industry, for they only wanted a decent wage and benefits, but the CEOs who had to be greedy and make millions of dollars a year, like the CEOs of the oil industry making millions of dollars, while we the people pay for it with the high price of gasoline. Also, the fair trade act is selling this country down the tube.

As a resident of Cayuga County, a lieutenant like Jim Langler will be greatly missed if he is not reinstated.

Politeness is an easy virtue and has great purchasing power.

Let me get this straight: A wacko can legally purchase a gun and kill several people, but a law-abiding citizen can't purchase and light up a smoke? God Bless America!

Education is the development of the memory at the expense of the imagination.

Marriage is a lottery in which men stake their liberty and women their happiness.

Benedict Arnold and the Rosenbergs are no worse people than white flag Reed, Pelosi, Clinton and Schumer, as they are frantic to make sure our troops lose and our country loses to the Muslim terrorists. They are frantic to make sure our troops are defeated and this country is defeated just so Reed, Pelosi, Clinton and Schumer can win the next election.

When are Mr. Pappert and some of the other legislators going to wake up? The hospital spent several million dollars on Wellspring and a new CEO, and now they have filed a Chapter 11?

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Conversation with Concerned Vet wrote on May 2, 2007 8:41 AM:

" You've made some good points, Concerned Vet, but don't get reactionary and sink to making comparisons of the relative worth of college students vs. military personnel. Neither is more valuable -- nor less valuable -- than the other. Don't even go there -- that kind of talk undercuts your credibility, and you have important things to say. Don't stoop like that. (BTW, your description of college kids' foibles dates you (you show the prejudices of your era). College kids today still have group flaws, but times have changed and they aren't the ones you mention any more). Signed, Mom of a college student and a high school student.... "

ArmyWife wrote on May 1, 2007 10:39 AM:

" The War In Iraq And What Happened In Vargina Tech Are Two Diffrent Things. The One Thing That Bugs Me Is That We Flew The Flag At Half Staff For The Students ( Which To Me Is Fine), But I Think That All The Military And National Guard Bases Should Have The Flags At Half Staff Till All Of Our Soliders Are Home. To Show Respect For All The Lives We Have Lost, Past Present And Future. "

To Oh! wrote on May 1, 2007 9:15 AM:

" Virginia Tech was NOT a combat zone. It was a group of innocent people that were slaughtered by a psycho. According to you, all of our children (millions) should be sitting at their desks with loaded guns just in case someone goes off their rocker. Get a grip! "

go beyond the BOX wrote on May 1, 2007 7:59 AM:

" here's how i see it.....A GRANT FOR CONDOS is a WASTE....someone else getting RICH that doesn't need to!!! There could be GRANTS going to homes in Auburn that could be renovated to accomidate people....If the SLUM LORDS(and yes...u KNOW WHO U ARE) had to pay a fine for their property getting so run down..i can bet ya they would fix it up....or if the renters got fined for trashing a place..i can bet you they would keep it up......better yet...why not UP the renters 1st last and security to those who have a HISTORY of trashing a place....and there's one sure way to get those people to step up to the plate and help keep AUBURN as BEAUTIFUL as it ONCE WAS!!!!(ORCHARD STREET ALONE IS ONE BIG DISGRACE) the landlords need a list of people that have a habit of trashing their places...just like the creditors have a history of people who don't pay their debts,,,and their interest rates go WAY up>...so??? why not do this so our homes can be utilized and NOT just sit there empty! ok...now here's how i see it....anyone agree with me???? "

And also wrote on Apr 30, 2007 11:55 PM:

" Oh, and Virginia Tech was not a combat zone. Just think, if all of the brave volunteers had not been dying over in the Middle East, maybe there would have been a few in those classrooms that could have stopped the rampage. "

Concerned Vet wrote on Apr 30, 2007 11:53 PM:

" Well to "asset" a situation such as this, I would also consider that a lot more soldiers have families they are trying to support, while a lot of college students are stiing on the couch, smoking dope, and bad mouthing America. Body for body, I think that the loss of a soldier is as bad as the loss of a college student. When you compare the coverage of 32 dead bodies in Virginia to the coverage of the over 100 soldiers that lost their lives in Iraq this month, I would say that something is dreadfully wrong. "

really glad wrote on Apr 30, 2007 10:56 PM:

" Really glad that"Glad to have moved" is out of here. Are you kidding???? The kids at Tech should have been armed? Thats right 30 kids in a classroom with loaded guns ready to shoot anyone that enters the room!! How scarey. Right back to the Wild Wild West. "

Michele wrote on Apr 30, 2007 10:19 PM:

" Regardless of your view on the war, we have an all voluntary military. (Definition: 1. of war or armed forces: relating to matters of war or the armed forces) I myself honor, respect, and am thankful to all members of our military, that being said enlisting in the military you know that you can be set to war at any given time, especially if you enlist at a time of war. They are trained, armed and prepared for combat. When attending school you are not and should not be expected to prepare yourself for combat. No one is saying that it is not a tragedy that our young men and woman in the military are getting killed, it is just that you are using a very bad example. Your talking about apples and oranges. If you honestly can not see a difference between the ARMED FORCES and a COLLEGE STUDENT then I am sorry but, you have lost the ability to sensibly reason and asset a situation. "

don wrote on Apr 30, 2007 9:54 PM:

" best buds wrote on April 30, 2007 7:49 PM: "if any of you care, for poops and grins, do a google search-- type in "Mike Nozzolio Bartolotta" see what comes up." They are all in bed with a whole bunch of other wealthy people. "

Andy B. wrote on Apr 30, 2007 9:29 PM:

" Regardless of where the money comes from this town doesn't need anymore cheap housing. This town is full of lower income housing. In fact, there are more rental units than tenants to fill them. What Auburn doesn't have is decent condo's like these.----Granted I'd rather see 1.2 million go towards some sort of business that would bring good paying jobs to the town. "

Nozzolio Bartolotta connection wrote on Apr 30, 2007 9:20 PM:

" Some other interesting names mentioned in here as well such as Cosentino read on everyone. This whole thing smells! New York State Senator | 54th Senate District | Michael F ...Anthony Bartolotta Joe Bartolotta Matteo Bartolotta Dick Beauchine Jack Bisgrove Pat Carbonaro, Mike Casler Laura Coburn Guy Cosentino David Dellostritto ...www.senatornozzolio.com/senate_update.asp?id=1176 - 22k - Cached - Similar pages Gilberti Stinziano Heintz & Smith, P.C. .::. Joseph P. BartolottaPrior to attending law school, Mr. Bartolotta worked in the office of New York State Senator Michael Nozzolio in Albany, where he served as Legislative ...www.gilbertilaw.com/our-attorneys/jpb.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages A CALL TO ACTION: A BLUEPRINT FOR OUR REGION�S FUTUREA report facilitated by Senator Michael F. Nozzolio ... Matteo Bartolotta Dick Beauchine Jack Bisgrove Pat Carbonaro, Mike Casler Laura Coburn Guy Cosentino ...www.cayugacountychamber.com/blueprint.asp - 39k - Cached - Similar pages [PDF] The Cayuga County Community College Foundation, Inc.File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLAntonino & Matteo Bartolotta Scholarships of Merit. Antonino & Matteo Bartolotta ... Senator Michael F. Nozzolio. Patricia Powers-Burdick. Maura Smith ...www.cayuga-cc.edu/pdf/giving/AnnualReport_05.pdf - Similar pages [PDF] ANNUAL REPORTFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLBoard of Trustees; the Honorable Michael F. Nozzolio, New York. State Senator District 54; ... Antonino & Matteo Bartolotta Scholarships of Merit ...www.cayuga-cc.edu/pdf/giving/2003AnnualReport.pdf - Similar pages [PDF] BREAKING THROUGH THE SILENCEFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLMr. John L. Bartolotta. Ganatra Family Foundation. Mr. Frank A. Insero & ... held at the campus on January 14, Senator Michael Nozzolio announced ...www.hillside.com/News/Vision/Winter05.pdf - Similar pages [PDF] Layout 1 (Page 1)File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLMike Nozzolio. Working to Secure the Future of our Region ... teacher Mrs. Bartolotta were present to help explain the scope of the project, and ...www.waynetimes.com/122704.pdf - Similar pages [PDF] cc offers more than 18 difference service- learning courses which ...File Format: PDF/Adobe AcrobatMichael F. Nozzolio, Senator. Joseph Errigo, Assemblyman. David F. Gantt, Assemblyman ... John L. Bartolotta, Vice President and Group ... "

I was not...!... wrote on Apr 30, 2007 9:15 PM:

" Karl Logan has the guts to tell things like they are, and to put people like Marie Spinosa in her place! His letters are excellently researched ( yes, I check!) and he makes his points forcefully! We need more people with courage like his and less people with the self-rightuosness of Spinosa and Ducayne! "

The other 32%... wrote on Apr 30, 2007 9:11 PM:

" If 68% of people in this locale agree with Marie Spinosa, it's no surprise in this overwhelmingly bigoted, backwards town...the real truth however is that , nation-wide, the entire culture is becoming more accepting of gays and believe in their right to pursue the same rights as the heterosexual majority. Marie Spinosa and her type are "on the losing side" in the long run, and the day that gays finally gain their full rights will indeed prove the will of Christ, in allowing us to love all of God's creatures, and these hypocritical "born again" Christians will be judged as they have taken it upon themselves to judge so harshly! "

its disgusting wrote on Apr 30, 2007 8:54 PM:

" Mr. BartLOOTA couldn't get a loan from a bank to convert this building into condos, I wonder WHY? Does the bank think that it is a RISKY VENTURE...perhaps...time will tell. but then again who needs a loan, when you've got the National Bank Of Mike Nozzolio, funded by the taxpayers. NO INTEREST, NO PAYMENTS, FOREVER. Those are great terms. "

Televised Council Meeting wrote on Apr 30, 2007 8:47 PM:

" It seems that someone is turning off the mics at the City council meetings. At first I thought perhaps there was a technical problem, however now I am beginning to think it is being done intentionally. It is my understanding a large amount of money went into the system at City Hall so the residents could watch and HEAR televised council meetings, now it seems more times than not there is audio problems. Could it be the Mayor and Council do not want us hearing what they have to say during this import budget time. I certainly hope when its time to elect a council and mayor we get rid of the old and begin fresh. There is no reason residents shouldn't be able to hear what our mayor and councilors are doing with our tax dollars. I hope this makes the paper!!!!!! "

Hello wrote on Apr 30, 2007 8:40 PM:

" OK, If Bartolotta were renovating this building to make affordable housing for people who earn $10 or less an hour, I would say, GREAT. And if Nozzolio were giving him the money for that purpose, I would say GREAT. But, people, this is not benefiting the people that it should be benefiting, the only person benefiting so far, is Mr. Bartolotta. he stands to make alot of money from this project, oh, and who is the contractor by the way? HOW CAN ANY OF THIS BE LEGAL? "

best buds wrote on Apr 30, 2007 7:49 PM:

" if any of you care, for poops and grins, do a google search-- type in "Mike Nozzolio Bartolotta" see what comes up. "

Hey not fair wrote on Apr 30, 2007 7:47 PM:

" We have all seen how well little delis and stores have down in the downtown area haven't we? Its been tried as long as I can remember without much success. "

a Rich Man wrote on Apr 30, 2007 7:37 PM:

" So, check this out, that dude, Bartlotta gets a 1.2 million grant, so when he sells 10 condos for $200, 000 each, that's what, 2 million dollars he profits. NICE. "

Know your Constitution wrote on Apr 30, 2007 7:25 PM:

" Elected Officials are bound by the Constitution of the United States to be pro gay marriage. The same Constitution that allows you to state your opinion, (freedom of speech) have it published in the newspaper (freedom of the press) based solely on your religious views (freedom of religion) states that laws can not be governed by prejudice (All men are created equal) or religious beliefs (separation of church and state). There is no other argument against gay marriage other then those of prejudice or religion, therefore while you are entitled to vote according to your beliefs, Elected Officials have sworn that they would not do so, and that they would up hold the Constitution of the United States of America. "

To Michelle wrote on Apr 30, 2007 7:24 PM:

" Just like the kids who enlisted to get money for their education, only to be sent off to fight King George's family feud with Saddam Hussein. To say that their lives did not matter and can be marginalized because they were soldiers would be akin to saying that if a young man dies in an automobile accident involving alcohol no one should be sad because he should have expected it. Stop marginalizing the deaths of our heroes. Bring the boys home!!!!!!!!!! "

do the math wrote on Apr 30, 2007 7:09 PM:

" Lets just say that there are 12,000 taxpayers in the city of Auburn, and lets just assume that Nozzolio is giving out grant money to the tune of 1.2 million dollars, if every taxpayer got an equal cut of that money, that would be $10,000 for them to make improvements to their homes. Alot of good things could be done with that money, like fixing up the city parks, planting some nice landscaping, etc.etc. If I were a taxpayer in the city of AUburn, I would be camped out in a tent on the front sidewalk of city hall. "

I agree with "trash idea a good thing" wrote on Apr 30, 2007 7:05 PM:

" For the most part. I've said the same things for years. I paint, clean and take pride in my home and yard. However, the rental property (and I'm talking owner-occupied on my street) owner collects rent - for the same size home. The rental property easily puts out 5 times the trash I do, never recycles (and never gets busted for it, either),never mows the lawn, rents to social mis-fits that party all night long, play offensive music and use fowl language. I get so disgusted. Oh, the cops are constantly there too. But dollar for dollar, our taxes are the same. I do not agree with the proposed budget, mostly cause paying for trash would now be another bill to pay, directly out of my wallet, versus the escrowed money and tax deduction I now have. Oh, and I'd be willing to bet my neighbors won't be responsible if the trash proposal becomes a reality, they'll simply let it pile up and let it get strewn all across the neighborhood, and feed the local critter population. Not-for- profit and downtown businesses need to pay for trash disposal. The amount of trash that the businesses downtown put out every week is ALOT. "

Conversation with Concerned Vet wrote on Apr 30, 2007 6:59 PM:

" I didn't write that one, but: Not because "they are brave" -- but because risking their lives is a known up-front part of the job when they signed on. Nonetheless, we shouldn't be there and our young people should not be killing, getting killed, getting damaged physically, psychologically and emotionally for nothing -- which is what is going on right now. "

Michele wrote on Apr 30, 2007 6:55 PM:

" Concerned Vet, Glad to have moved is not saying that they deserve to die, or too bad for them, any anything like that. They are trying to say that a war zone is, or at least should be different, then a school. They are brave because they have chosen to put their lives on the line for us, and our freedoms. The students had no choice, they where just trying to get an education. "

Not fair wrote on Apr 30, 2007 6:22 PM:

" Hey Greg, manufacturers would move in if someone spent 1.2 million to fix it up. it dosen't have to a factory it could be offices, and little stores, a deli, the possibilities are endless.... "

Concerned Vet wrote on Apr 30, 2007 5:40 PM:

" The college students in Virginia Tech were not in a War zone. So what does that have to do with it? Are you telling me that we should accept the death of our military personell because "they are brave"? That is a pretty ignorant position to have. "

Hey Bill wrote on Apr 30, 2007 5:38 PM:

" Please do not act like "The Poll" is scientific. I have known people who have voted fifty to sixty times on one issue. "

You're joking, right? wrote on Apr 30, 2007 5:04 PM:

" I really, sincerely hope that the person who wrote the Two Cents about Karl Logan was being sardonic. "

Dick wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:49 PM:

" Logan Lofts 1.2 millon grant for a private investment from taxpayers funds. Via Mike Nozollio dose that answer your question? "

Bill wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:46 PM:

" Just checked the poll 68 % agree with Marie Spinosa. As I also do, marriage is between Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve. "

Dan wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:43 PM:

" Not fair wrote: Why is it that some developer can get a grant from this illustrious city to renovate an old factory into upper class condo's, while an 85 year old woman who has lived here all of her life and paid taxes into this city for years can't get a grant to fix her porch up?" She dosen't know the right people. To have the right strings to pulled. Its pretty simple follow if you know the right path. Its all a big circle of who knows who. "

Greg wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:31 PM:

" Hey one step forward two steps backward - Duh! Look around there not a tremendous number of manufactures flocking to Auburn. Nor would they locate in a 3-story brick warehouse. "

not what you know, but who you know wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:25 PM:

" What's the 85 year old woman's last name? "

Logan Lofts wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:20 PM:

" WHAT? He got a grant to do this? What kind of grant? What would the grant have been allocated for if it hadn't been given to Mr. Bartolotta (isn't this man quite wealthy?)? "

bickering... wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:17 PM:

" I think that it's a shame that people can't leave one's choice to be religious or not alone! What is wrong with someone speaking of God? Why is this so offensive to some? Some people find some real dumb thing's to start an argument over.. first it was racism, then it was smokers, then it was someone's parenting skills resulting in kids acting out in the store, then it was that marriage is horrible, then it was who is more evil, Bush and his war in Iraq, or the student at VA Tech who took some 30 lives, and now it's a religion issue? Wow! I think I have heard it all.. Who decides what posts get in? They should find someone new!! "

Curious wrote on Apr 30, 2007 4:06 PM:

" I am a Mom and I am a Wife!! I love my kids and I love my Husband!! My kids are great (not without fault, of course) but great! And my Husband is the most amazing MAN ever (aside from our Lord) I don't get why the negative comments about Parenting and Marriage are being posted?? For the majority of us, don't we choose to get Married? And choose to have children? My only guess is that some people have had a bad experience with both.. But, I think making generalized comments is pretty ignorant! Not all Men are bad, there are a lot of wonderful Men out there, who are awesome Dads, husbands, coaches, Teachers, etc.. And I think that not all children act out! I think that acting out is a learned behavior after age 1, we do what works, right? There are a lot of well behaved children out there, and they don't get the praise they deserve, becasue all we hear about is the bad one's.. I hope the people who posted these comments find happiness in their lives.. I sure think the attitudes (and the posts) would change!! "

Not fair wrote on Apr 30, 2007 3:12 PM:

" Why is it that some developer can get a grant from this illustrious city to renovate an old factory into upper class condo's, while an 85 year old woman who has lived here all of her life and paid taxes into this city for years can't get a grant to fix her porch up? "

fly on the wall wrote on Apr 30, 2007 2:35 PM:

" A typical day at City Hall...punch in la de da de da...punch out. "

one step forward two steps backward wrote on Apr 30, 2007 2:31 PM:

" Hey Steve-Dah, The person is trying to say that, instead of the city throwing in a grant for this guy to fix up the old factory, to turn it into condo's, why not use it for what it was meant to be used for. What don't you get? Do you need a condo or something? "

Ignore the nonsense wrote on Apr 30, 2007 2:24 PM:

" Silly creatures! Don't you realize the editors who chose what to post in Two Cents deliberately pick things that will rile people so as to stir up more comments? When something patently stupid is posted, just ignore it -- why let them jerk your chain? Don't be so predictable, so open to being manipulated. Keep your comments to things about which you really care, then try to be articulate enough people might actually be persuaded. "

Impeach Bush wrote on Apr 30, 2007 2:03 PM:

" What do we win when we have won in Iraq? Does Bush get to be King of Iraq? Check out www.icasualties.org and then explain again why we are in Iraq. Pay special attention to casualties from coalition from other countries compared to ours. "

Trash idea maybe a good thing? wrote on Apr 30, 2007 1:57 PM:

" It�s about time somebody said something about renters. It�s not the renters fault though; it�s the cities for not accessing the units fair enough. I would like one person to read the following and really say that this is fair or not fair. I have a house that is 1500 sq. ft and is accessed for 125k. Now a few houses down from me there is a duplex that is 3000 sq ft and also is access at 125k. What�s going on here? Their house is twice as big as mine but paying the same amount of taxes, AND twice the amount of trash. At one time I was against the pay as you go for trash pickup but I am beginning to realize that to be fair a pay as you go might be a good idea, with one exception. The exception is to remove maybe 300 or 400.00 from EACH SINGLE homeowner�s city tax bill initially each year, and then pay as you go trash would be fair. One more item, unfortunately it�s time to start charging not for profit agencies something for taxes, as we the single family units cannot afford to carry them any more. "

vic wrote on Apr 30, 2007 1:50 PM:

" What some of you don't understand is that the Civil Service Employees and teachers unions are forced to negotiate in compliance with the Taylor Law. It is a trade off that allows them to have unions (so they can get better benefits etc)but makes it illegal for them to strike (to get better benefits, etc). The point of this is to protect the public. How would you like it if there was a murder being committed and when you called the police, no one came because they were on strike. Or your house was on fire....etc. There are some areas, namely the area of math/science/foreign language teachers where there is a huge shortage, if these individuals were to strike it would pretty much screw the school district, you can't just fire them as there is no way to replace them with scabs as it takes years of costly schooling to be certified for those positions. Or if a police department were to strike there would be no way to train people fast enough to take their place. The Taylor Law/Unions are protecting the public from having to deal with these things. "

Now why don't you wrote on Apr 30, 2007 1:22 PM:

" think about that statement and see if you can come up with a reasonable answer? being "more upset" or less isn't at issue. The men and women who serve in our military understand the risks involved period. Generally speaking, college students attending classes hardly anticipate being in a war zone. HELLO!!!!!!! "

To Concerned Vet wrote on Apr 30, 2007 1:16 PM:

" You are right, of course. Part of it is that Iraq is an abstract idea, and the people are not Americans, and very different in so many ways. Part of it is that humans just can't grasp the enormity. Recent studies have shown that human empathy drops off even between one victim and two. The more people are harmed, the less we can relate to it, the less empathy we have. We will feel the strongest for a single victim -- a person, a horse, etc. There is nothing wrong with that sympathy/empathy, but the more victims there are, the less we are able to connect to the individuals who were hurt. So, in a lot of ways, it is quite a feat that people have such strong feeling and concern for 33 dead young people and their families -- and it is no wonder most media have been making a big deal of trying to show them to us as individuals -- little spotlights on the interests and lives of each person lost at VT. You simply could not do that for each life lost in the war. Some local papers make an effort to tell of the lives of American servicemen and women who have died, and that is commendable, but there are also thousands of innocent people from other cultures who have died or been maimed, poor people who have no control over what their government does any more than a poor person down on the Bayou had control over how our government dealt with the aftermath of Katrina. It's sad but true -- we are human and have limitations for comprehending horror. You have to search your own heart and do what you can within the scope available to you, then live your life with as much kindness and compassion to others as you can manage within the parameters of your own life -- and hope that if you ever end up on the other end of the stick, there will be people who will be good to you in return. Good luck, kind soul. "

Fatherhood wrote on Apr 30, 2007 1:09 PM:

" The definition of "fatherhood" is being muddled and changed and distorted due to the widespread use of artificial insemination. Just what is a "father" when, for instance, a lesbian couple have themselved artificially inseminated? Do we not make men all that we women have complained about for centuries -- irresponsible and unwilling to commit -- by making it possible for them to provide the genetic material to reproduce with absolutly no responsibility in the process of raising their own children at all? Man, what a messed up world.... "

Raised kids without TV wrote on Apr 30, 2007 1:06 PM:

" Children (and young adults!) have short attention spans and intense consumer desires thanks to the media, primarily television and video/computer games. They may have gained the ability to attend to several things at once (i.e. multitasking), but they have lost the ability to concentrate on anything in depth enough to truly understand it -- and in this complex modern world, that loss in more than a generation of people has significant impact). Parents will do themselves, their children and eventually the future of this country a lot of good to cut those things off. "

Liberated!!!! wrote on Apr 30, 2007 12:44 PM:

" I admit that I've followed these two cents postings out of curiousity the past few months and even contributed a few times. But after reading the posts that the Citizen chose to put in today, in particular these stupid blurbs about marriage, children, education, etc. that seem to so frequently find their way onto your pages, I can honestly say that I am 100% done reading the Citizen. It's not enough that you continue to print the self-righteous religious crap from people like Murray Lynch, the bigotry of Judy Ducayne and Mike Reagan, the letters comparing the VA tech shooting to the Iraq war, etc., etc. But now you feel the need to post these dumb sayings from some crackpot philosopher. The rest of the world still goes on around us while Auburn, for the most part wallows in ignorance that the Citizen promotes. I'm happy to say I'm done trying to figure it out. Can't wait to subscribe to the Post-Standard!! "

abc wrote on Apr 30, 2007 12:28 PM:

" It all comes down to parenting. The child acts out because the parent isnt controlling the kid. "

glad to have moved wrote on Apr 30, 2007 12:25 PM:

" The people in Iraq are brave and know they face death everyday. The people in Virginia didnt have a chance. Its sad for both. I feel students should have the right to be armed also. Utah is the only state that does it. "

p wrote on Apr 30, 2007 12:11 PM:

" Poor, insensitive comparison. "

Because of Two Cents wrote on Apr 30, 2007 11:58 AM:

" Bristol Avenue is my favorite place to litter!!!! "

Steve wrote on Apr 30, 2007 11:58 AM:

" QUOTE- It's a shame that a building that once housed a factory has to be taken over by condos. Don't you get it, City Hall? -END ... I for one don't get what you are trying to say. What's the shame in re-using a Historic Building to provide a new style of housing in Auburn? Maybe you can enlighten me. "

Concerned Vet wrote on Apr 30, 2007 11:49 AM:

" How come people are more upset about thirty kids dying at Virginia Tach than the over three thousand that have died in Iraq? Is it because the people in Iraq are mostly poor kids? "

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