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Two Cents

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:15 AM EST

When we think of Oswego County, we might remember it not for its 12 feet of snow, but for the place where all the deer starved to death in 2007.

I know we're quite concerned about the quality of Owasco Lake. Wouldn't think it would be a good idea to be dumping snow with God knows what kind of chemicals into the outlet-inlet.

I think it's pretty sad that the students at Auburn tried to get more attention for Black History Month. If they really wanted to do something, they should have done it themselves.

Thank you so much for having this Two Cents column. It really gives people a chance to say what they want and it's just great.

There is always someone within the community who finds something to complain about! As for myself and many others who reside in the town of Aurelius, the employees' efforts and hard work toward keeping our roads clear during the winter months is very much appreciated.

The city of Auburn should scrap Bob Penafeather and his cable commission in favor of John Rossi and his team of corporation counsels. It's quite obvious that Penafeather can't get the job done.

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The Citizens' Say

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Robin wrote on Feb 22, 2007 11:20 AM:

" I saw only one thread in yesterdays postings that drew my concern. Being human its easy to think that only I matter. Sometimes I becomes we, as in "community". The holiday lights are entertaining, now in more ways than one, but still not important, to me. The burglaries in one small town, though important to your community(and you all could do something about it), are not really all that important, to me. The issue about plowing driveways, hell, do mine while you're at it. Politics... is politics, and deserves more attention, just not from me. But one person mentioned that the deer are starving to death up north, and I can imagine other wildlife is suffering as well. I really hope that someone is doing SOMETHING to help preserve this resource. If so; count me in! I would like to hear if anyone knows of organized programs to help the weather-beaten wildlife in our region. I would volunteer in a heartbeat. In the meantime I ask that others consider the plight of the deer and birds and do whatever you, personally, can to help the truly needy at this time. This is important, to me. "

me wrote on Feb 22, 2007 8:06 AM:

" 'i need input' you make absolutely no sense. "

to: B. Anne Aybutt wrote on Feb 22, 2007 7:13 AM:

" Just wanted to let you know, I've been through a big snowstorm with my satellite dish, and had no trouble at all. Other people I have talked to have had no trouble at all. Those stories are mostly made up propaganda by (guess who) THE MIDDLEMAN!! Um, that would be Time Warner Cable. They get their signal from the same place!! But they figured out a long time ago how to extract money from people. Have a nice day!!! "

karl logan wrote on Feb 22, 2007 2:07 AM:

" Uh,,,it's P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S !!!!!!!!(with an "I"!!!!) "

Dish customer wrote on Feb 22, 2007 12:26 AM:

" I've had Dish Network for a couple of years now... it's only gotten better. I forget about the snow when I sit down to watch tv. I'll never go back to Time Warner. You cant beat the prices and variety of packages. "

I need Input wrote on Feb 21, 2007 10:31 PM:

" I do not live in Auburn, I used to live there...now I live in Florida...my quandry is with the city that I live in. Seems the city manager, has decided to go public, on the local news 10:00 pm that he wants to go from a boy to a girl.(this made top story) I don't have an issue with the surgery, my issue is with the fact that the city is hiring counselors (with my tax dollars) to counsel the staff of city hall. Shouldn't he/she be made to pay for the counselors out of his/her pocket due to the fact that the employees are going to be traumitized as a result of his/her surgery? Does this sound like a fair use of tax dollars? "

WOW wrote on Feb 21, 2007 9:33 PM:

" Last I checked mailcarriers, doctors, nurses, etc. aren't responsible for clearing the roads. They are depended upon, but its not in their job description to plow the roads. Go to the town board meeting if you need to gripe!!!!!!! "

New topic wrote on Feb 21, 2007 9:12 PM:

" Anybody hear what happened with the professor from SUNY Binghamton that wanted a grant to study how the street lights effect the Crow population in Auburn? How did that turn out? "

Peace on Earth wrote on Feb 21, 2007 9:08 PM:

" In the 2000 census the population of Aurelius was 2,936 so obviously the number has gone up over the past 6 years. If plowing 4 (I repeat 4) driveways is that big of a deal then what the heck is this world coming too? There are more than 4 lives lost everyday in this useless war on terror. There are more than 4 pregnancy's aborted each day. There are more than 4 kids dropping out of school each day... Come on how little of a thing is this plowing thing, especially since how often had we even had to plow snow this winter? Let's all get our heads on straight and worry about the BIG picture here... Let's all go to the next Board meeting and just battle this stupid thing out, so we can put an end to it once and for all!! "

Dewey Cheatem & Howe wrote on Feb 21, 2007 9:00 PM:

" good grief...OK I see your logic, so Everyone who has a job of importance, like the mailcarrier, doctors, teachers, nurses. etc. etc. people who are depended upon everyday, should have their driveways plowed out for free too, because they need to get to their jobs. "

You know wrote on Feb 21, 2007 8:47 PM:

" I wonder if Earl Stine, the self proclaimed Mayor candidate, ever watches himself speak (if you call it that)on Public Access TV during the broadcast of the Public be heard portion of the City Council meeting. Like Mayor Lattimore, Stine has a problem staying focused! "

giggles wrote on Feb 21, 2007 8:41 PM:

" Some hot spots have really been hit today! This is the most resposes that I have read in a long time.. I needed a good laugh tonight, thank you all for your bickering about really dumb stuff, it gives the rest of us something to chuckle about!! Have a great night!! "

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Psh. wrote on Feb 21, 2007 7:56 PM:

" You people need to get a life and worry about yer own problems. "

petty issue wrote on Feb 21, 2007 7:19 PM:

" come on everybody lets , lets find something alittle more cutting edge than christmas lights to comment on...how about ROSES BAKERYS CREAM STICKS...YUM! "

good grief wrote on Feb 21, 2007 7:08 PM:

" Dear Petty: That's what i am talking about!! Pick and choose your battles. And to you Dewey Cheatem and Howe, and to others that are complaining,this all translates to nothing but idiocracy! You are making it sound like they drive around just plowing any Joe Smoe's driveway. They have to keep their driveway cleared to get out to make the road clear for someone as unappreciative as you! "

B. Anne Aybutt wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:59 PM:

" Hey Patrick, wait till the next big snow storm, or rain clouds pass by your satellite, you won't be praising your DISH then. ENJOY... "

To: Cool Awesome Person wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:55 PM:

" From: Why do you care... I don't put up Christmas lights - I'm Jewish. Just curious why it matters so much to some people when there are so many other things that would seem a bit more important. Have a nice day. "

Ellen responds wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:43 PM:

" No not involved much in politics, i do frequently walk the Avenues area and have seen neighborhood watch signs in some of the windows of homes. I just think that our Town Officials have done what they can to protect the residents of this Town. They have contracted with the Sheriff's Dept. for dedicated patrols, they did look into a Town police force at residents request but found that to be to costly and residents wouldn't want to pay for it. Since the Sheriffs Dept and State Police have been involved in investigating the burglaries here in town, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are aware of the problem and would be taking the appropriate measures. I still maintain, why does someone else have to solve the problem for you? Be proactive, meet with your neighbors and set up a watch group, make sure you lock your doors and windows, buy an alarm system, get a dog, place your indoor lights on timers and your outdoor lights on motion sensors. There is a great deal YOU can do to make yourself feel more secure. I can't see laying this at the feet of our elected officials, they certainly can't arrest anyone. Two of them live in the general vicinity of the incidents, prevail upon them to bring the option of a community police force up for a vote, or public referendum. Just don't sit back and expect somebody to solve the problem for you, I learned many years ago it just never works that way. "

The law firm of Dewey, Cheatem & Howe wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:34 PM:

" I can't believe that you people think that it's OK for a village worker to STEAL from the village. Because that is what plowing someone's personal driveway with equipment that belongs to the village, with gas in it that belongs to the village, and to boot the guy is being paid by the village- it translates to. STEALING!!!!!!!!!!!! Any way you look at it. Their is no Justifiable explanation for it, other than THEFT. "

Petty griping wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:33 PM:

" Good grief -- who cares if people leave up their decorations? It's no skin off anyone's nose, it doesn't cost anyone else money and it's not an eyesore. If some folks take pleasure in the cheeriness of lights and decorations as the long gloomy winter months drag on, I say, good for them -- and anyone with Seasonal Affective Disorder. If some folks haven't got time or energy to take their decorations down and put them up again, year after year, and prefer to just leave them up year-round (like my dad did when I was a kid), it's no one's business but their own. And about the plowing -- another non-issue. If some of those guys have to plow their own drives so they can get out to plow the roads for everyone else, big deal -- I've see MUCH WORSE abuses of power than that for much more selfish reasons. There is indeed corruption out and about in the small towns which desperately needs to be exposed and corrected -- but a couple guys plowing their own drives the way which has been described here is no where near the worst of it. Pick your battles over things that are worth it, not the piddling nit-picky stuff. "

silly rabbit wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:33 PM:

" Christmas lights are pretty, keep them up all year and light them as much as you wish. After all its your house, your business! "

A Cool Awesome Person* wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:22 PM:

" Dear Why do you care, *NEWS FLASH* it's been snowing for about two,maybe three weeks, January is the warmest on record yet! What about all that time u had after New Years to take them down? Instead of sitting in front of the computer and arguing you could be out taking yer Christmas decorations down.=) "

*lighten up, again wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:17 PM:

" Take yer Christmas Decorations down, i mean seriously if u have a problem taking them down, then why do u bother putting them up? And ha ha it's grey outside and the christmas lights "cheer you up?" That's what Street lights are for. "

Lighten Up wrote on Feb 21, 2007 6:13 PM:

" Um plz people, u need to stop arguing, do u have anything better to do than sit at yer computer and ARGUE about some people's concerns? Yer concerns might not be the same as theirs. Lighten up. People have a right to voice their opinions without getting attacked by low-life mean people. "

get real wrote on Feb 21, 2007 5:06 PM:

" With a name like G money..you must be some sort of joke!!! Sounds like you have quite an issue with the workers plowing their own driveways..I can't imagine how you react to things that are a REAL issue... "

Dear Ellen wrote on Feb 21, 2007 4:45 PM:

" You must be in politics. Of course its the town officials job to follow up with the agencies they employ with our tax dollars. Noones safety should be compromised by your song and dance in the tune of taxes!!! "

********** wrote on Feb 21, 2007 4:44 PM:

" my santa stay up year round "

Lights, Lights & Lights wrote on Feb 21, 2007 4:33 PM:

" Let's see more seasonal decorations! I enjoyed seeing Valentine's Day lights and decorations... Now I am slowly seeing St.Patrick's Day lights... It's time to take the Christmas one's down... they are just a friendly reminder of how much money we all spent.. let's move on please! "

Johnny Law wrote on Feb 21, 2007 4:33 PM:

" Does the city Of Auburn have Code Enforcement Officers? "

I've Heard Enough wrote on Feb 21, 2007 4:16 PM:

" This is in response to whoever "G Money" is, your complaint seems so stupid compared to the big issues in this world.. like the war that takes lives each and every day, and the starving people in the world.. do you really think the plowing of town employees driveways is that big of a deal? Come on buddy, we all pay taxes, but it's the shallow individuals like you that make big deals out of nothing.. if you have so much spare time why don't you send some money to the starving people in this world, or become a pen pal to a soldier over seas who has no one to communicate with? Leave this nonsense of who does what with tax dollars to the crows.. There is always some good that comes out of the bad, and the good that comes out of these snow storms is men like the employees of the Town of Aurelius who do make our roads safe for us to travel on.. Give them a break, really who cares about such nonsense??? "

G Money wrote on Feb 21, 2007 1:49 PM:

" My tax paying dollars going to town workers plowing residents driveways when they could be clearing the roads faster and making my drive to work safer. That's my problem! I will be at th enext town board meeting to purposely bring this matter to the table. It disgusts me that i pay for this. Plow my driveway while your at it. "

Ebenezer Scrooge wrote on Feb 21, 2007 1:29 PM:

" In some cities, leaving Christmas Decs up past Jan 31, constitutes a violation of ordinance, resulting in a fine. Merry Christmas. If you're not going to take them down, Don't bother putting them up. Bah HumBug. "

Ellen wrote on Feb 21, 2007 12:54 PM:

" What are the Owasco Town officials supposed to do about burglaries? I wasn't aware that was part of the job description. Do you all have a neighborhood watch program? I live in Owasco and see the signs for that in some areas windows. Have you called the Sheriff or State Police and voiced your concerns? Owasco already pays extra for a sheriffs patrol, if they aren't doing the job then complain to their boss! Are you willing to pay an increase in taxes for a Town police force? People want all these items, sewers, policing etc..... but nobody wants to pay for it. Next board meeting is March 8th, go and make your request. "

Where Are The Laws wrote on Feb 21, 2007 12:46 PM:

" On Plowing Residential Driveways? Do You Have Any Proof Of This being "Illegal"? Why Don't You present your case to the Town Board? You are simply choosing to grip about something that is of no importance? Are the roads being ignored so that these driveways can be plowed? I didn't think so.. you can't find something a little more important to complain about? Why does this bother you so much? Do you have a personal problem with one or all of the Employees that you are trying to cause a problem for? I think if you let something so foolish get the best of you then you really seriously need to get a life... The Town of Aurelius road crew does a great job! There is only 4 men out there doing it all, if you don't like them plowing the driveways that they don't have time to shovel because they are taking care of our roads then like I said, go to a board meeting or better yet, MOVE!! "

Not a hunter myself wrote on Feb 21, 2007 12:34 PM:

" Not all deer die of starvation -- many are hit and killed on the road. "

G money wrote on Feb 21, 2007 12:29 PM:

" Plowing residential driveways with a town plow is ILLEGAL!!! "

New City Manager wrote on Feb 21, 2007 12:28 PM:

" has arrived and hopefully will be getting down to Budget business quickly. The Council approved last week the digester/energy plant, I have to ask??? Where is the money coming from to pay for this 3 phase project? They're talking millions of dollars. "

Patrick wrote on Feb 21, 2007 12:26 PM:

" Also - some people have the decorations up to celebrate the Chinese New Year. Nothing wrone with decorations still up from christmas!! We like to see who's still "decking the halls..." "

ROCK ON wrote on Feb 21, 2007 11:39 AM:

" LIGHTEN UP!!IF YOU MUST TAKE PEOPLE'S SIMPLE COMMENTS AS INSIGNIFICANT NONSENSE AREN'T YOU ABOVE COMMENTING? SINCE YOU'VE TAKEN IT PERSONSAL HOW 'BOUT YOU GET OUTSIDE AND TAKE DOWN YOUR DECO'S IT MAKES THE TOWN LOOK DUMPY AND AND THE PEOPLE LAZY.(EX:1st IMPRESSIONS???) "

Wi Not wrote on Feb 21, 2007 11:31 AM:

" This technology will make it virtually impossible for law enforcement to track down online predators. "

why do you care? wrote on Feb 21, 2007 11:12 AM:

" why do you care why people still have holiday decorations up - does this somehow affect you personally? comments like yours are precisely what's wrong with this column - little insignificant nonsense that is hardly important to anyone - just gives you something to gripe about. btw, it's been cold, windy, snowy and miserable the last month and a half - sounds like a good reason to me to leave the lights up! "

2B or not 2B wrote on Feb 21, 2007 11:05 AM:

" Having the Two Cents column gives people the chance to say what they want? Hah, Only if it's what the Two Cents Column Wants It To Be. "

Dear Rock On, wrote on Feb 21, 2007 10:48 AM:

" The lights are not Christmas lights. They are lights to cheer us up when it is dark and grey outside. Enjoy! "

OPEN SEASON wrote on Feb 21, 2007 10:46 AM:

" THE TOWN OF OWASCO NEEDS TO HOLD A SPECIAL TOWN MEETING TO HELP ITS RESIDENTS FIND WAYS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM ALL THE BURGLARIES. WE SEEM TO NOW BE AN EASY MARK FOR THE WOULD BE THEIVES AND WHAT EVER CRIMINAL ACTS THEY MAY BRING WITH THEM!! "

Jim wrote on Feb 21, 2007 10:43 AM:

" The Highway Department in the Town of Aurelius led by Kent Walter should be commended for a job well done. I am a resident of the town and they are always surprising me with the ways that they manage the snow removal. Some of these roads in the town give them very limited space to put the snow, but they always do it and they do it well! Most of us throw snow wherever we can, even if it's in someone else's way, because we just don't know where to go with it.. these guys do a great job and always keep up with it.. I don't know how anyone could have anything negative to say, but I guess like it was already stated "it takes all kinds to make the world go round" "

SITTING DUCK wrote on Feb 21, 2007 10:32 AM:

" IT SEEMS THAT THE AVENUES HAVE BECOME A TARGET FOR THEIVES. WHEN WILL OUR TOWN OFFICIALS GET SERIOUS AND GET US THE HELP WE NEED. MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS DESERVE TO FEEL SAFE IN OUR HOMES TOO! "

ROCK ON wrote on Feb 21, 2007 10:26 AM:

" CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER WHY SO MANY PEOLPE STILL HAVE THEIR CHRISTMAS DECO'S UP.....PLEASE LET IT (CHRISTMAS)GO!!!! "

Patrick wrote on Feb 21, 2007 10:15 AM:

" Hey, I got Dish Network, the picture is amazing, many more channels, including NFL Network, got a DVR, and I'm paying less then I was with Time Warner for only their basic cable package with no digital box!! Someone say no-brainer??? "

Proud Town Resident wrote on Feb 21, 2007 9:56 AM:

" Thank you for agreeing with the fact that our Employee's of the Town of Aurelius do a fantastic job! It's so sad that their aren't more people giving them credit for the efforts made. I know that it takes all kinds to make the world go round, but their are so many negative people out there... Anyway, good work and much appreciation to the Town of Aurelius Employees! "

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