Board looking at turf for Holland Stadium

By Olivia Goldberg / The Citizen

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:44 AM EST

AUBURN - The tenor of Tuesday night's Auburn Enlarged City School District Board of Education meeting made it difficult to say which stirred more passion: the Maroons' state football championship or what the fields they played on were made of.
Jason Rearick / The Citizen
Holland Stadium has grass now but some want artificial turf. The Auburn Enlarged City School District is looking into the issue.
Even before members began considering the merits of putting a proposal for synthetic turf at Holland Stadium out to a public vote, five school district residents took to the podium set up in the high school library, and urged the board to keep the topic of turf in play.

“Maybe the timing's off,” said district resident Dennis Sedor, referring to the city council's adoption last week of the 2007 county tax rate, which will see Auburn's tax levy increase 7.4 percent.

Still, Sedor said Holland Stadium showed “great potential,” and cited possibilities for generating revenue from a turf carpet at the field located behind East Middle School.

The community's palpable support for the football team as it won each game that ultimately brought it to the Carrier Dome in November, he said, was a significant change from the negative drift of local conversation about turf when the district initially proposed installing a synthetic surface on the high school practice field.

“If you couldn't feel the electricity in the air ... it was wonderful,” he said. “Auburn will support its football team and its community.”

Taxpayers voted overwhelmingly against a similar proposal in October. That plan, which the school district hyped aggressively over the summer months and through to the referendum, would have put a synthetic carpet on the high school practice field, with state aid covering 85 percent. Voters rejected the proposition, 2,428 to 1,390.

Acknowledging that the summer perhaps precluded input from and access to information for vacationing residents, schools superintendent John Plume asked the board to begin a public conversation about putting up another proposition.

He asked members to consider what kind of input they'd need to move forward with another referendum, timelines for the process and whether each member would willingly commit to active support of such a proposal.

“What's your pleasure, in terms of directing yourselves as a board?” he said.

Member Frederick Cornelius solidly dissented. Citing the district's public information sessions and other exhaustive attempts only a few months ago to inform and address taxpayers' concerns, he said, “What's changed since the last discussion? Nothing, I respect the community voted it down. We discussed all these things, and the community didn't agree. That's part of the process.”

Reminding the board he'd emphasized turf on a varsity field from the beginning, William Andre said he wanted to spend as little time as possible on the matter. The district faces more pressing issues, he remarked, than athletic fields.

“The community wants to see us talking about those issues, not field turf,” he said.

Yet the possibilities for creating revenue (by hosting sectionals or leasing out the field), helping Auburn's economy, ultimately became the dominant theme.

“We need to develop revenue sources for the overall community,” said David Lansford. “It's not just a school thing. This can create revenue for the city that can benefit many.”

Members asked Plume to return with more information: principally how much revenue comparative schools with turf fields have seen, opportunities for corporate sponsorship and possibilities for leasing out Holland Stadium to other groups for events.

Staff writer Olivia Goldberg can be reached at 253-5311, ext. 235 or at olivia.goldberg@lee.net

The Citizens' Say

There are 55 comment(s)

class of 98 wrote on Jan 15, 2007 10:12 PM:

" I am growing tired of all the negative comments on this board. Our field at the stadium is garbage to say the least. No one can play on it if it mildly rains at all. Why don't the genius taxpayers realize that while they were going to watch those sectional games at schools in syracuse and rochester, they were pumping money into those towns economies and schools. If we had a decent field, we would be able to host these events, and take some of the pie for ourselves. Come on people, look at the whole picture. "

member of the team wrote on Jan 14, 2007 2:56 PM:

" i played on the football team this yr. tiwards the end of the season both the practice field and the game field are pretty much useless. We had to travel corcoran many times so that our practices were productive. Im not sure about the other team memebers but i believe that the turf will help with a lot of things. Especially at Holland stadium seeing all atheltic programs will be able to use it "

PR wrote on Jan 11, 2007 11:14 AM:

" I'm sure that you have this view of all politicians, all the time. To be realistic is one thing, to be a deep cynic is quite another. And remember, championship aura has nothing to do with the original vote, which I was in favor of since this was a major capital improvement project that was handed to us, that the cynics turned down. I'm looking at the good of the community. I started and operate a small business that is successful and expanding. I look to bring in new well educated professionals in the near and far term. I want this city to have pride in its past, and also a vision of the future. Cynical attitudes are a roadblock to what I, and others, are trying to do. How's that for reality? "

unknown wrote on Jan 11, 2007 10:53 AM:

" PR....say what you will, but you need to get a little more familiar with how politics work, what lengths some will go to get his/her little pet project done. The "get real" comment was to get you to come out of your championship induced aura and open your eyes. "

PR wrote on Jan 11, 2007 10:15 AM:

" I love it. Conspiracy theorists show their heads when it comes to debates like this. Mr. Plume and the coaching staff purposely bussed the football team to other facilities to practice, with the state championship on the line? The conspiracy atmosphere is fitting with your arguements against this project, based on half truths and illogic. And again, your debating technique (..."Get real"...) is revealing of your ability to communicate on community topics. Have some respect for yourself. "

Unknown wrote on Jan 11, 2007 9:41 AM:

" PR...the fact that they did bus the players to another field to practice was just a ploy to dramatize someone's (Mr. Plume's) wish to get a field put in. Practice is just that - PRACTICE!! There was no need for bussing at all, and it cost us money for transportation. Get real!! "

senior citizen wrote on Jan 11, 2007 9:24 AM:

" are you the citizens of auburn, nuts..you have a chance to do something good for the students of auburn, but as soon as soon as money is mentioned (2$ tax increase), you freeze up. its about time you people ask your selfs, what can i do for the kids of this community, rather than what can this community do for me? go for it, take a chance on doing something good in your life for once....mr. Plume, i applaued you and the board for bringing this issue up again. you have my vote. "

Unknown wrote on Jan 11, 2007 7:56 AM:

" It's obvious that there needs to be some changes made on the school board, they have lost sight of their true direction, which is supporting education. And to try to make us think that they can generate revenue that amounts to anything much is ridiculous. That idea is nothing more than propaganda aimed at supporting Mr. Plume's agenda. No means no. "

PR, in response to Bill wrote on Jan 11, 2007 7:10 AM:

" Bill, you should try to get your facts straight. The Auburn football team consistently needed to be bussed to outside facilities (other section 3 fields) to PRACTICE for the playoff games. This is an embarrassment for our community, but a fact. It's too bad so many of you can't act and talk rationally about this issue. It is a classic, simple debate of raising taxes in order to improve local facilities, in hopes that the return will outweight the increased taxes. Of course, the first time around, the potential tax increase was MINIMIZED by the state grant. But you STILL voted no, which was based on blind emotion and not on fact. Now, this time around, I'm not so sure what the tax impact will be, we'll have to see what the proposal is actually going to be. But hopefully taxpayers will strongly consider the benefits versus drawbacks, rather than blindly and thoughtlessly just attacking the proposal and saying NO. Intelligent debate here, rather than loud rhetoric, would serve us all well. "

Works where I live wrote on Jan 11, 2007 6:26 AM:

" In the town where I live (3,000 population) we installed artificial turf last year. The vote for the capital buget to get the field as well as other needed improvements was close but passed. Funny now that we have it, no one is complaining, everyone is proud of the facility and everone and I do mean everyone has used it. The state money to assist you to build the facility is already some of your money anyway. If you don't get it, someone eles surely will jump on it. Let me put it to you this way, if someone gave you 85% of the money to build a new house and you turned it down, everyone you know would think you were a moron. Put the field in. Trust me, if you build it, they will come.....and be jealous for what you have. For once Auburn, get out of the back seat and get in the drivers seat. It's your turn. "

peanut gallery wrote on Jan 11, 2007 12:17 AM:

" If the cost of the turf to the taxpayer was absolutely nothing, you'd still get a bunch of blowhards in here bellowing about how much "we don't need it!". Mark my words. I'm sure the Board will come up with a proposal that will not impact the taxpayer at all.. and yet, the big mouths will still COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN "

Responding to the reponder, part 2: wrote on Jan 10, 2007 9:26 PM:

" "...I'm a young professional and I can think of many more pressing issues rather than artificial turf. That is not going to keep me here..." Point well taken. As a fiscal conservative, I do NOT believe in wasting taxpayer money on superficial window dressing. But truthfully, you are missing the bigger point. If AMD (computer chip manufacurer) wants to consider relocating in Auburn, or if Auburn Memorial Hospital has a potential fantasic new hospital administrator and her family that is considering moving to this city, or if a new orthopedic surgeon is considering opening a new practice, (and on and on), these folks need to have a reason to want to come here! Showing them the beautiful new seawall at Emerson Park, or bringing them to the new Falcon Park on a Thursday night in the summer, or bringing them to the fireworks display at the lake on the 4th of July, or bringing them to a football game at the classic, but newly restored Holland Stadium (dedicated to the 2006 State Champs) are what will ATTRACT people, and JOBS, to the area! Each of these require an investment, each of them cost us a bit up front, but each benefits our community for YEARS. Please keep an open mind to this concept. "

MM wrote on Jan 10, 2007 9:07 PM:

" Accomplishments by our students and the positive publicity that is generated by it (for example, a state championship win by our football team), along with improvements to our educational facilities (yes, even to our athletic facilities), is a positive incentive to individuals, families, professionals, and businesses to relocate to our city. Believe me, when a family, professional, or business is considering moving to any city, one of their first questions is, "How are the schools in this area?" When a person or business who is considering moving to Auburn becomes aware that the citizenry of Auburn has chosen not to invest in a positive improvement in the school district, despite the fact that 89% of the cost of such improvement is being funded by a state grant, how do you think their decision making will be affected? Please realize that the more individuals, families, and businesses there are in the city of Auburn, the larger the tax base becomes, thus decreasing the tax burden for all of us while increasing our opportunities! Imagine that...investing in our schools actually benifits all Auburnians - even those who don't have kids who attend school! "

Bill Balyszak wrote on Jan 10, 2007 8:57 PM:

" What part of NO doesn't this school board understand? WE,the Auburn school district TAXPAYERS with a vote of 2,428 votes OPPOSED vs. 1390 yea. That's a pretty big margin to lose by, isn't guys? And that would seem to be a very strong message that we, the taxpayers, have made, no? It's not the fact that artificial turf was proposed at the HS and not at Holland Stadium...it's the FACT that WE DO NOT NEED artificial turf, PERIOD! It's a difference of 'want' and 'need' and we don't NEED it, nor can we afford it. And as for the football team needing artificial turf to win a championship...get real, you people. They practiced all year long and honed their skills on natural GRASS and still 'somehow managed' to win their first ever Super Bowl on artificial turf. And Mr. Plume, I stand by my earlier letter to the editor, where I said that this Auburn Maroons team "... don't need no stinking artificial turf to practice on to win a CNY AA Super Bowl --- they just needed a chance." (And how about passing out my ATTABOY Certificates to the football players that were delivered to AHS in November. Not nice to be a censor for no reason except that you & others didn't like the "...no stinking artificial turf..." verbiage that was part of these certificates) There's just no end to this arrogance is there? "

BH wrote on Jan 10, 2007 8:45 PM:

" In response to "In response to"... "Have you not driven through downtown Auburn lately?" Yes, actually, I have driven through downtown. And I agree that the urban renewal of the 1970's was a tremendous mistake. But negative attitudes and lack of creative thinking will make what is left downtown (such as the Schines) sit there, without direction. If there was federal and state funding to restore important historical sites, thus benefiting the community, and the community just had to put in 5 or 10 percent worth to complete the restoration, then we would be STUPID to turn it down. Unfortunately, this is the pattern we are now seeing in this city. "

Shame, Shame, Shame wrote on Jan 10, 2007 8:29 PM:

" The school board and Plume should be ashamed of themselves for trying to put this through again. What a disgrace!!!! Do they really think we are that stupid? "

No Vote wrote on Jan 10, 2007 8:24 PM:

" Its too bad we as taxpayers are going to be taken advantage of. Just because the team won the championship now the board feels the timing is right to slip ther turf through since we are all gung ho on AHS football. Great job team but still no turf. We won without it just goes to show we don't need it. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO , NO , NO "

ProEd wrote on Jan 10, 2007 8:04 PM:

" In discussing proposals, perhaps the Board should consider a vote from the tax payers on a Driver Education Program that will affect our kids for their entire lives. Other school districts have allowed the community a voice on this topic - why not Auburn? "

In response to listen up tax payers wrote on Jan 10, 2007 8:02 PM:

" I just don't see it. What "renting out the usage of your asset" are you talking about? What plan is in place to "rent out" the stadium? Our biggest asset is Owasco lake and the park. Have you seen the state of the playground equipment up there? I don't see "good salesmanship" or a "solid decision". Show me who's on the roster for renting this space out when all is said and done. Show me the solid investment and how it will close the gap on the school budget problems. Artificial turf isn't a magic eight ball for Auburn. I voted no the first time as I will again, and I'm going to persuade my friends it's a bad investment and a bad decision! "

HEY Disgusted! wrote on Jan 10, 2007 7:14 PM:

" Do your job as a parent and get on your kid(s) to get a good education. The tools are there, YOU have to execute! Stop whining like an idiot - your kids failures in life are a direct result of YOU! "

The "NO" Morons on this thread.... wrote on Jan 10, 2007 7:12 PM:

" People voted NO for turf @ the High School. Turf @ Holland Stadium is a DIFFERENT scenario....do the right thing Auburn and put turf up @ that beautiful stadium that NEVER gets used because of its natural grass playing surface. EVERYONE can use it, not just football.....EVERYONE!!!! Even the AHS Marching Band! I bet they would love nothing more than to practice their routines on the football field rather than in AHS Parking Lot! "

just say yes. wrote on Jan 10, 2007 7:01 PM:

" It is time we put some money towards some improvments which could make the community proud. Holland stadium is a good start. Maybe this could be combined with a proposition to call it ADAMS field, after Bob Adams who fielded those great teams in the 70's. Let's do it Auburn. "

The Mighty Maroon wrote on Jan 10, 2007 6:49 PM:

" I truly believe that Auburn just got lucky this time around. If the other team wasn't disqualied, Auburn would have been beaten. C'mon Board, let's move on and talk about something new. "

David wrote on Jan 10, 2007 6:43 PM:

" Sending taxpayers money like drunken sailors. Only thing is bars have a closing time. Toss the bums out in the next election "

The Kids wrote on Jan 10, 2007 5:22 PM:

" I played sports in Auburn, raised a "Family" in Auburn, worked in Auburn my whole life, donated $$$ to just about every sale the kids came and are still coming around with and voted "NO" to the turf.If I thought for one minute that the kids were thinking this community dosen't support them it will be the last nickel I give, but I don't beleive this for one moment, so STOP USING THE KIDS. "

Wake Up wrote on Jan 10, 2007 5:01 PM:

" I didn't vote last time around, but I am this time. I am voting for the improvements at Holland Stadium, including the synthetic turf. I will also make sure that my friends and relatives do the same. I was at the Carrier Dome and experienced the proud feeling of being an Auburnian when the footbal team won the New York State Championship. Its about time that attention is given to that beautiful facilitly. All the negative comments I have read only inspires me to finally do something about it, and I will vote this time around. "

Common Sense wrote on Jan 10, 2007 4:57 PM:

" Our school district and teachers are in the business of educating students but let's not blame the above personnel if our students do not succeed in the classroom. Students must work to succeed, both in class, and @ home with study. If our students are not learning let's not automatically assume our teachers or school district are failing our kids. It is certainly possible to fail in a quality educational system if a student does not do the work. Incidently, what does natural grass or field turf playing surface have anything to do with an athletes ability. The real arguement is that FieldTurf allows athletes to practice more often outside on a real field, rather than practicing lacrosse,field hockey,or baseball in a gym or parking lot. By the way $$ from NYS to help fund such a project would only add about $1.00 to your monthly $100 tax bill. "

RESPONDINDING TO ETHES wrote on Jan 10, 2007 4:40 PM:

" I don't like the taxes and I don't need someone who rents telling me what I can afford. I have a voice and a vote just like you and will use it if needed to vote no again. If you don't like that fact there is no turf then you move a district that has it. I'm sure there is low income rent available. "

Listen Up Taxpayers wrote on Jan 10, 2007 4:29 PM:

" The concept to market the assets of a tuff field at Holland Stadium, renting out the useage of your asset, being in capital on your asset; ALL ADDS UP TO INCOME FOR YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. This is more than a step in the right direction; THIS IS GOOD SALESMENSHIP AND SOLID DECISION. Bring on the talks. "

ethes wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:49 PM:

" if you dont like the taxes, move!! "

Jerry Morgan Sr wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:46 PM:

" John Plume and HIS board of education should be following the example of Cato Meridian, and tighten their belts. Especially considering the county just whacked us with a 7.4% tax hike. The district has yet to receive their state aid figures, and they are already spending your money on wish list items. I say no. It was voted down once because the people thought it was more important to spend money on education, and buildings than artifical turf. What kind of impact will the 7.4% county tax hike have on the the homeowners? What does it mean to the city? Can we truly afford to keep spending money like drunkin sailors? Plumes and Stearns think so. My God, if the county tax hike is 7.4% and the city comes out with a 4% and the school with another 5% or 6 % plus the referendums, what will that mean to the property owners ability to pay. What are the ramifications? Do they even care? I don't know about you but I cant afford a 17% plus raise in my local taxes. It was reported in the news paper that Cayuga County NY was the 8th worse taxed county in the nation. Are they trying to be #1? "

In response to BH wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:43 PM:

" "We have to invest in this city's future. We need to maintain what is great, such as the Holland Stadium infrastructure, but also continue to improve and modernize." - Have you not driven through downtown Auburn lately? This town started its destruction in the 70's and has continued since then. We've knocked down just about any nice bit of architecture in downtown. Secondly, "Negative, pessimistic attitudes are what drive young people away from this area." - This is true, but more to the point is getting out of school and not being able to find a job that can keep up with the taxes is a higher priority, and the rate of taxes to our stellar infrastructure doesn't match up in my eyes. Im a young professional, and I can think of many more pressing issues rather than artificial turf. Thats not going to keep me here. "

BH wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:41 PM:

" The negativity and comments by those opposed to even THINKING about new proposals regarding the turf is amazing. The original turf proposal was a no-brainer, for anyone who looked at the facts. We were basically being provided this great project at MINIMAL local costs. If one were told that you just one a contest, and would be given a brand new house, but all you had to do was pay the closing costs, would you turn it down and complain about having to pay the closing costs? The naysayers probably would. This whole turn of events makes me think that the Founding Fathers were absolutely right in designing our system as a representative government. The Proposition system that we see more and more lately leads to less thought provoking debate. Important decisions are made based on overly simplistic reasons. "

Artificial turf wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:27 PM:

" Where can you buy good cheese? "

Taxpayer wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:06 PM:

" This is a back door move by Plume to get his way. The voters spoke already and the answer was no. Maybe the Scool "Bored" should follow the wishes of the district and not Plume or those individuals riding the wave of the Auburn win. The taxpayers in this county and school district pay enough. "

John wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:05 PM:

" Rather than raise taxes to make the suggested improvements to the football field, why not solicit the needed fund through a capital fundraising venture. There are many individuals, groups,and businesses that will benefit from the desired changes. They should be the ones to organize and come up with a plan to collect the need funds. Perhaps a matching funds plan which includes the taxpayers might be a possibility. We need to start thinking outside the box when it comes to raising money rather than run to the taxpayers every time someone wants a new project funded. "

PR wrote on Jan 10, 2007 3:05 PM:

" The negativity that so many of you portray on this issue is the major problem with our city. People complain and talk poorly about our schools, our hospital, our downtown, our lack of good jobs. These same people love to say NO when serious thought is made toward improving one aspect of our school system that should be seen as a symbol of where we want to go as a community. I'd like to hear real, concrete, thoughtful proposals from the gloom-and-doom folks on how to properly invest in our district's and our city's future. I'd be willing to bet that no matter WHAT was proposed to invest in, whether atheletic or academic, the naysayers would vote NO, and then still complain about the city's problems. This has become so ingrained in the psyche for some, that there is no way of escaping this attitude. Thank God those who say NO NO NO didn't live back a couple of generations ago, or there would be no Holland Stadium to be debating about. Please remember, those in favor of the turf are NOT just pro athelete, pro football, but are looking at this as a smart investment toward the district, and the city's future. "

JW wrote on Jan 10, 2007 2:51 PM:

" The Auburn School District is in the business of educating children and any extra money requested SHOULD be put toward meeting the goals of NO Child Left Behind. "

md wrote on Jan 10, 2007 2:23 PM:

" NO! NO! NO! We have already spoken. "

disgusted wrote on Jan 10, 2007 2:19 PM:

" If Auburn School district cared as much about my kid graduating as they do their sports program, I'd be the first one to stand up and say bring on the turf. Unfortunatly they don't.Fix our childrens futures first. "

Dave wrote on Jan 10, 2007 2:15 PM:

" Let's stop sending a message to the students -- sports trump academics. If sports people want turf, then they need to pay for it - have a bake sale. This is not a need but a want. I do hope that in 20 years we don't find various "football team champions" still living the "Championship" as their pinnacle in life sitting on some bar stool making miniumum wage. More to life than football - but you need intelligence to succeed. Mr. Plume - stupid is as stupid does - focus on academics. Instead of spending money on turf, why not use the money to create an area in the high school for high academic achievers to lounge in ... like an Ivy League Club. Perhaps this would inspire others to achieve now and later in life. I know of only one past Auburn football player that made it to the NFL. That was Buddy Hardeman. It seems playing on grass at Holland Stadium did him well. But 1 NFL player out of Auburn every 60 years ... lets get real. "

ahg wrote on Jan 10, 2007 1:56 PM:

" How about improvments on a more reasonable scale. What about a decent baseball field? Varsity plays at Falcon Park which is very nice, but when Falcon Park is not available they must go back to the cow pasture (with a tacky white fence)behind the high school where freshman, modified and JV play. (Very impressive to the visiting teams.) No facilities, no parking and lets not forget the position of the field. Last year they actually had to call off a game due to sun glare!!!! "

hello.......... wrote on Jan 10, 2007 1:48 PM:

" NO MEANS NO. What's the confusion about???? It's hard enough to choke down the taxes here. I bought a house in Auburn about 5 years ago. I have done no major work to it, yet my mortgage has gone up over $100 a month. Why? Because of increasing taxes. I'm not sure who's salary continues to keep pace with the yearly tax increases, but it sure isn't mine, or any of my friends... "

Tim wrote on Jan 10, 2007 1:42 PM:

" Why do all the naysayers maintain so much negativity. To say that this is a dead issue is false. I venture to state that Auburn (as a community) has rarely experienced the positive feelings,press, and pride that the football team brought us last year. People can't say that athletics, intertwined with education is not important to students or the community. The BOE does have a responsibility to this community to serve the district. That is what the super. and board members are doing after much public response by revisiting the artificial turf issue.I believe that the FB team has helped spark the other athletic teams performances, and frankly I feel we are just experiencing the beginning of an overwhelming new athletic attitude @ AHS. With this positive attitude brings greater pride in our school among students and even better effort in the class room. Our community deserves an upgrade to one of our "Community Jewels" (Holland Stadium). Quality education for our children is very important and they deserve proper resources to accomplish that end. Effort from within is needed also. Our athletes deserve the resources to excel also.(without traveling to Syracuse)As witnessed last year and this Winter, the effort is already present. "

Unknown wrote on Jan 10, 2007 1:33 PM:

" The reason the turf was proposed for the high school instead of Holland Stadium was because there was such a public outcry against it going into Holland Stadium, in the first place. So the after thought was to propose that it goes to the high school. Sure, bring it up again, we'll just vote it down again. But maybe this time, make it a fair vote by having it in more than one place. Having it just at Seward School was a pretty sneaky ploy. Then we can vote it down by an even larger margin. "

NO wrote on Jan 10, 2007 12:44 PM:

" STATE CHAMPIONSHIP OR NOT. WE VOTED NO!! NOW IT SEEMS WE ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BECAUSE OF OUR EXCITEMENT FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM. NO MEANS NO!! "

BH wrote on Jan 10, 2007 12:41 PM:

" There is nothing wrong with relooking at an issue, even after a vote has occurred. This happens in Congress, for example, all the time. A bill is voted down, but then improved or revised, a consensus is reached and the bill passes. There are many who say that if the original proposal had the turf at Holland Stadium, they would have voted in favor. And there are many who have now had the chance to see the advantages of turf, first hand, by going to away games during Auburn's championship run. Others point to the fact that our team had to go to other facilities (in fact, opponents within section 3) to practice for the playoff games. Thus, many minds may have changed. We have to invest in this city's future. We need to maintain what is great, such as the Holland Stadium infrastructure, but also continue to improve and modernize. Investment is NOT a waste of taxpayer money, IF DONE RIGHT. And this is coming from a Conservative Republican. Negative, pessimistic attitudes are what drive young people away from this area. Positive attitudes and thoughtful investment in our schools, hospital, and business environment are what will do just the opposite. "

Alan wrote on Jan 10, 2007 12:37 PM:

" The new potential referendum would be for turf to be installed at Holland Stadium. The one that was voted down was for turf to be installed at the HS, and for sod upgrades and infrastructure improvements to be made at Holland. Can you grasp the distinction? Given the football team's success championship, along with the fact that all the complainers (who didn't want to see that huge $2/year increase to their taxes) said the turf would have passed had it been for Holland, this seems like a reasonable topic for the Board to revisit. "

Forget it.... wrote on Jan 10, 2007 12:36 PM:

" If the school board wants to retain any credibility at all, they will resolve to forget about the turf and get on to the reason why they are there in the first place, to be concerned about education, and not so much on sports. "

Bill wrote on Jan 10, 2007 12:30 PM:

" The voters voted down turf at Auburn High School. I believe they would feel different about the turf being located at Holland Stadium as long as everyone got to play on it not just the football team. "

Ditto wrote on Jan 10, 2007 11:52 AM:

" The taypayers have spoken. Why is this being visited again after it was already voted on? What's the point of having a vote if it can be easily visited again. "

AJ wrote on Jan 10, 2007 11:04 AM:

" I think Auburn has more important things to be concerned about. Plus, the taxpayers have spoken. Leave it alone. "

Can't believe my eyes.... wrote on Jan 10, 2007 11:01 AM:

" The revenue generated by having a turf field might pay off in a couple of hundred years. Please get on to more important matters - such as education. Perhaps we need to underscore this when election time rolls around again???!! "

Unknown wrote on Jan 10, 2007 10:55 AM:

" I cannot believe that this is back again. Doesn't the school board have anything better to do???? Or is Mr. Plume going to keep pushing his agenda at us?? Let it go...I understand that you were burned when we voted it down, but get over it!!!! "

vic wrote on Jan 10, 2007 10:32 AM:

" The people of Auburn JUST voted the turf down!!! At least wait a few years before bringing it up again. All this does is really annoy the tax payers of Auburn. "

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