Mother's speech violations lead to council's review of public comments

By: Jessica Soule / The Citizen

Friday, September 29, 2006 5:12 PM EDT

AUBURN -- Mary Lou Picciano has made herself a fixture of Thursday evening council meetings, but new regulations may change that.
The Auburn resident is on a crusade to have the city investigate the alleged excessive force an Auburn Police officer used in the August 2004 arrest of her son.

However, her latest speech during the Auburn City Council meeting has sent city leaders scrambling to reform the public comment portion of the weekly meeting.

Last week, Picciano named an officer whom she accused of excessive physical contact. Previously, she claimed a city employee, referred to by name, made a police report against the mayor.

The mayor couldn't rule out of order Picciano's violation of pointing to individuals last week because the council failed to read an outline of procedures. At the mayor's request, the clerk reads a list of rules for speakers, limiting their time to three minutes, and asking their comments to remaining respectful in nature.

Picciano has received warnings before not to use names.

"The last few months we've been giving a lot of latitude," Corporation Counsel Thomas Leone said.

Policy states that they don't discuss individuals names and speakers treat all the council equally, not referring to any one person alone. It also prohibits personal attacks and abusive or defamatory language.

Any change in policy won't limit speech but rather will allow council to gain more control, Leone said.

"We need a consistent format," he said.

The council will discuss different options and are to draft a specific policy addressing the public to be heard during a work session Thursday, Oct. 12.

Mayor Timothy Lattimore asked about turning off the camera that records each meeting for broadcast later in the week. Another option is to have the tape edited or the audio erased in the case of a controversial remark.

Leone clarified that the edited version would be broadcast, but an original copy would remain intact.

Councilor David Dempsey wondered who would edit the tapes and expressed concern about one person deeming certain material unfit.

"This is not a free-for-all," Leone said.

A specific policy is necessary to protect the city employees.

"I have an open door policy," Lattimore said. "(Council meetings) are not the place to discuss personnel issues. Our staff are hard-working people."

Lattimore asked about a provision that would address "repeated material."

Picciano, who sat quiet during most of the discussion, responded by calling out "You're unbelievable" from the fourth row.

She frequently voiced her dedication to coming to the weekly meeting until she gets justice for her son -- a subject she calls for nearly every week.

"It's not going to work, Mr. Lattimore," she said.

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There are 9 comment(s)

JK wrote on Oct 2, 2006 9:27 AM:

" I admire someone who fights for what they think is right. Doesn't everyone? So, why are people so hard on Mrs.Picciano? Too bad if you are sick of hearing about it, it is her fight if you don't want to hear, then don't listen. Jerry Morgan says all that needs to be said about censorship. Read his words and think! "

First of All, wrote on Oct 1, 2006 2:46 PM:

" It's "I've heard about this story...." and "wrecks havoc" not "reek". Secondly, who are you to tell Mary Lou what she needs to do? I'm sure she's perfectly capable of knowing what she needs to do on her own and if she chooses to confront city council about an injustice she believes was done to her child, then she is well within her rights. How does change happen? It happens through persistance and dedication to a cause and creating a public visibility for that cause. Exactly, what she is attempting to do. "

Public Speaking wrote on Sep 30, 2006 8:48 PM:

" I have the right to as follows-- speak only on matters that pertains to city governing issues, can not single out anyone person by name simply because they can not defend themselves during your three minutes of fame, and lastly-- should not expect an immediate answer because after all-- you are just expressing a view, period. "

Jerry Morgan wrote on Sep 30, 2006 7:58 PM:

" Folks the issue is not Mrs Picciano, it is about the Govt and censorship. That is the subject. If it wasn't her then the next topic to censor would be????? It would be up to them now wouldn't it? Soon we would not be able to address any topic for fear of being arrested, then what? What type of government would we have then? I believe in free speech, as long as it is directed to the ones that are elected to represent us. Naturally one cannot expect the city leaders to allow anyone to slander an employee or a member of the council, but as long as the speaking public is staying within legal boundries, then all they have to do is sit there and listen. Potentially libelous statements. Obscene, explicit, or racist language. or threats cannot be allowed.Personal attacks and insults? Well does that mean if a taxpayer goes to city hall and addresses the council and states that they are not doing the job we expected them to do, is a personal attack and an insult? I guess it would be in the eyes of the beholder. Draw the line in the sand but do not censor. Our people are greater than that. Our form of government is greater than that. We will survive, only if we dont screw around with something that isnt broken. I am extremely proud of this city council and I am positive they will do the right thing. "

KC wrote on Sep 30, 2006 5:46 PM:

" Mary Lou needs to chill out. Seriously. I heard about this story for about 2 years now, and how she reeks havoc in the city counsol meeting. Its annoying and irrelivant. "

LJW wrote on Sep 30, 2006 1:58 PM:

" This is for Jerry - I absolutely agree with evrything you wrote - to bad the "higher ups' don't, there are many "matters" that still exist and you are very right when you say they are very much worse! "

Rose wrote on Sep 30, 2006 11:33 AM:

" I agree with Mr Morgan "

Lisa wrote on Sep 30, 2006 9:25 AM:

" Ms. Picciano has been heard. Now she needs to use her voice in a court room if she so desires. This is not cencorship. It is taking the appropriate avenue and using her energy in a more effective manner. "

Jerry Morgan wrote on Sep 29, 2006 8:17 PM:

" I have supported our Mayor in most of the decisions he has made. However, on this one I must take exception. Free speech is just that free speech. As elected officals they give up the rights that private citizens enjoy. A public servant is a public servant. Period! Be it a policeman, or a codes inspector, he is still a public servant. To try to control the "Public to be heard" is nothing more than a facist form of government. Leave the public alone Mr Mayor, allow the public to be heard un-censored! Anything less would be against the principles many of our soldiers fought and died for. We dont have to like what we hear, and most times as an elected offical we dont. But the public has every right to speak without fear of censorship or intimidation from our elected leaders. The speaking of employee names pertains to YOU and the Council as it would be an employee matter. As the public speaker does not employee any city worker, he or she is free to adress any situation that directly effects them. It is your responsibility to take the matter up in executive session to rectify the problem if possible. It does not mean censorship, because that does not make the matter go away, it only makes it worse. "

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