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Aurora may go wireless

by Anne Gleason / The Citizen

Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:57 AM EDT

AURORA - While the idea for a wireless Aurora is still only an idea, one local company is interested in working with the village in deciding whether or not to pursue the venture.
Joe Fronczek, of Global Fusion in Auburn, spoke with Aurora Village Board members Wednesday night about the logistics of setting up a municipal wireless system. Currently, only 157 communities nationwide are wireless, Fronczek said, in seven to 10 years it will likely be closer to the norm.

“Everybody's going wireless,” Fronczek said. “Whether or not you want to be computer literate, you kind of have to be.”

The idea was proposed by village trustee George Farenthold, who said he would like Aurora to be on the forefront of the

wireless movement in the area.

If the village created its own system, Fronczek estimated it would cost in the $20,000- to $25,000-range to build a system with the capacity to hold 300 to 400 people, though he said he would need to do a site survey to know exact costs. The system, he said, would be able to extend for 2.5 to 3 miles without any problems, he said. Though still preliminary, Fronczek said the village could likely generate enough revenue in three to five years to recoup all costs.

The village would own and operate the wireless system, as opposed to a private company like Time Warner. Fronczek said the village would likely need to charge a fee for users to subscribe to the village system. Users would pay a fee and would access the system through a code and a wireless card.

With Wells College already moving forward on installing wireless hot spots on the campus, both mayor Tom Gunderson and deputy mayor Ken Zabriskie expressed concerns over whether there would be enough other customers in the village to operate a profitable system. There are also already some wireless hot spots in the village.

“What scares me is the scale of what this could be,” Gunderson said. “This is a small village.”

Grant money for the installation is available, which could cut initial costs, Fronczek said. He estimated it would also cost between $700 and $1,400 a month for bandwidth.

Other communities in the region have looked into or implemented partial wireless systems. Canandaigua, for instance, has a wireless downtown district.

Farenthold believes the village should start researching its options.

“We either go digital or we're going to be playing catch up with the people around the lake, and the people around the country,” he said. “This is part of the infrastructure as much as street and bricks and mortar and clean water.”

In other news:

-Planning board member Grace Bates updated board members about David Kirk's decision last week to withdraw his application to purchase and renovate the Lyon House along Main Street. Kirk informed the planning board that the costs were currently too great to proceed with the project.

While Bates said Kirk's main reason for pulling out of his project to renovate the house and use it for his art and animation studio was the cost, she also said the planning board would like to move forward with other village boards and interested parties to find a compromise to the Webb House dispute, which a couple of months ago led to a lawsuit against the Aurora Foundation, which owns the house.

The board, she said, is concerned that the litigation, which could go on for years, could prevent people from being able to purchase and fix three structures in disrepair - the Webb House, the Lyon House and the Lake House. The Lyon house can not be purchased until the Webb House is moved, she said, and the Webb House is currently tied up in litigation.

As planning board members, Bates said everyone on the board is concerned about the state of those structures. She added, however, that the board was not intending to place blame on anyone.

“It's unfair to make any charges against anyone in the village,” Bates said. “The whole issue needs a resolution. (We don't want) this enormous hole in the middle of the village.”

Staff writer Anne Gleason can be reached at 253-5311 ext. 248 or at anne.gleason@lee.net

The Citizens' Say

There are 9 comment(s)

Define System wrote on Aug 20, 2006 7:56 AM:

" AJR -- I agree. You can't trust government, local or federal (or "world") governments -- they are worse than dysfunctional and the things they do with our money is criminal in my opinion. The checks and balances have been sidestepped, corrupted and eroded and we are left at the hands of urbane tyrants who use fancy rhetoric to make us think it's all in our best interest. You certainly can't trust corporations -- they don't even pay lip service to checks and balances, democratic government or anything but the bottom line of their own pocketbooks. I like my little local ISP and though I'd be a fool to trust anyone entirely, I trust them better than most. One ought to be able to trust a small local government run all by people I know personally -- but I absolutely don't in this case. And wireless in Aurora would not be a "huge benefit to us all" -- as someone else has pointed out, how many people in Aurora have wireless laptops anyway? How does a fee-based wireless service run by the Village of Aurora in any way help those who can't afford a computer much less internet access? Yet, as far as I can make out in the jumble of talk I've been reading, the idea seems to be to get start-up money from the feds (which comes out of our pockets), to set up a system the Village has to maintain over time (which comes out of our pockets) and to charge a fee as well for anyone who uses the service (which comes out of the pockets of anyone who chooses to use the service). Right now there is no community wireless infrastructure for which to pay. Adding that expense is not in any way "a fraction of the cost" -- it is an ADDITIONAL cost we did not have before, and is for the benefit of the very few. "Auroran" has the right idea, and it should be applied not only locally, but right on up the foodchain of government -- take care of things at HOME first, take care of the basic needs first, then and only then should you even be considering the fancy extras -- if there is money left. "

Auroran wrote on Aug 19, 2006 1:52 PM:

" First let's see Aurora get: enforcement of our zoning code, access to our existing village park, adequate / secure space for village records, archival storage for village historian, decent office for village clerk, trash trucks re-routed, village streets repaired, sidewalks extended, etc etc etc. Leave wireless nonsense alone, we have too many important unfilled needs. "

AJR wrote on Aug 19, 2006 12:15 AM:

" Define "System" Do you believe for a second think that the corporate interests running the show are anything better? If so I think you are dreaming. Indeed, government is really dysfunctional, if not downright tyranical these days, , so oversight is paramount. But there is no reason why we could not do it securely with the proper watchful eye, safeguards and procedures in place. Plus, it can be done for a fraction of the cost at huge benefit for all of us. BTW, keep an eye on the FCC - they are working on a pivotal bill which will continue the downward slide we have been on with respect to telecommunications. AJ "

Define "System" wrote on Aug 18, 2006 8:17 AM:

" In addition to the ongoing cost concerns, it's also entirely unclear just what services are being proposed. What is meant by "create their own system?" Define "system." Who will be managing access and authentication, doing security, virus protection, spam filtering, etc. Is the Village Board proposing wireless internet access -- only? Or are they talking about providing a full suite of ISP services including e-mail and other apps? I wouldn't trust them to administer anything competently much less ethically -- not in THAT town. I suppose you could hook your desktop computer to a wireless network if it had a wireless NIC -- but the whole thing is really rather a fuzzy half-baked unclear idea with a lot of potential drawbacks -- it sounds a lot more like a PR move to improve the public's (low) opinion of George Farenthold, not like anything practical or sensible. "

Millie wrote on Aug 18, 2006 6:30 AM:

" We have Time Warner services for 11 years. Never had we had 100% of service in all areas all the time. They are always "working on the problem." "

Father of a Wells Student wrote on Aug 17, 2006 11:51 PM:

" The campus should be wireless. The ice cream shop could be (and is). The Aurora Inn should be (I don't know if it is). The Fargo does not need to be (beer and laptops do not mix well). The town does NOT need municipal wireless access. Let the private sector handle it. If there are enough people willing to pay for the service then they can pay a private sector company or individual. Making it a municipal utility (town or village owned) is putting the financial risk on all residents when at best a minority will benefit. "

Pete's kid wrote on Aug 17, 2006 8:04 PM:

" Wireless is imparitive for a college setting because so many students have laptops. But how many year-round residents own laptops? Wirelesss is only beneficial to the laptop owning public. I'm willing to bet that, of the people in this small town that do have computers in the household, a very small percentage of those do have a laptop. And if they do, it is relatively inexpensive for them to set up a home wireless router/network (around $100). While this is a fancy product to display to surrounding municipalities, the board should first take into account the practicalities of the expediture, before going off on a high tech binge. "

PTB wrote on Aug 17, 2006 7:04 PM:

" Bad idea for Aurora. So few properties pay taxes in this village -- only a 100 or so. The monthly bandwidth charges alone would require major increase in tax revenue. After the big start-up investment, we'd have pay someone to administer the ongoing operation. No guarantee enough subscribers would eventually sign on to meet expenses. And many residents have already expressed concerns about (inept and/or corrupt) village board oversight of such a system. Drop it! (PS: Auburn's a different story, a modest expense within a much larger municipal budget, could be a big plus for the community.) "

AJR wrote on Aug 17, 2006 6:02 PM:

" When will the mayor of Auburn give this any consideration? The system could attract new business, drive down costs for consumers significantly (think $8-$15 per month versus $40-$60, all while offering much greater speeds and mobility. Was he promised campaign contributions not to consider it? I hear nothing but horror stories about Time Warner cable. While Adelphia has had it's share of problems, from what I have been reading, TW will likely be worse. "

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