Webb House talks continue in Aurora

By Jason Gabak / The Citizen

Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:03 AM EDT

AURORA #- A controversial lakeside zoning issue continues to simmer. The Aurora Zoning Board of Appeals, along with members of the community and Cynthia Koep and John Place, met Wednesday to continue discussions of the Webb House project. Koep and Place want to tear down Lake House, a currently unoccupied four-unit dwelling, and move Webb House to the land where Lake House currently stands.
Koep and Place showed key points of their proposal to the board and community. A major area of concern from previous hearings has been how the move would impact neighboring properties.

According to Koep, the effect would be minimal and might, in fact, benefit nearby properties.

“We want to replace a structure of no appreciable use, a structure that is out of compliance with a structure that will be solid and keep in character with the historic nature of the community,” Koep said.

The chief concern in regard to zoning is that Webb House, based on current standards, is too large for the proposed property and would require a variance allowing for a structure both larger and taller to sit on the land.

Based on their plans, Koep and Place are seeking a 10-percent variance allowing for the house's approximate height of 35 feet and width of about 41 feet.

Koep and Place argued that based on where they want to locate the house, the actual changes would be barely noticeable.

“We want to move the house 137 feet from the road,” Koep said. “The actual difference from what is there now would be virtually imperceptible and would have a minimal impact.”

Bill Holland, owner of Holland House, has been one of the project's chief opponents. Holland, who lives in Toronto, has been represented by his attorneys.

Among the concerns they have voiced is that Webb House would infringe upon site lines, which would change the area's aesthetics. Holland's attorney also stated that the plans Koep and Place presented Wednesday were not stamped or approved by a New York architect or engineer and may not accurately represent the physical changes that would occur on the property. Holland's attorney asked to be allowed to submit height measurements in the next few days and urged the board not to make any judgments without all the facts. These concerns were also echoed by several people in attendance concerned that changes to landscaping and driveways may negatively impact the look of the neighborhood.

Koep and Place believe that is not the case and that by saving Webb House from demolition, they will be improving the community.

“We are trying to save an historic building,” Koep said. “This is a unique situation; there is no precedent in this area.”

A joint board meeting is scheduled for May 31, when a decision may be reached.

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Concerned Auroran wrote on May 27, 2006 11:33 AM:

" Yes, let's set some records straight. 1) Despite assertions to the contrary, there is nothing historic whatsoever about Webb House. It's a nice house. A pretty house. It was built circa 1905 and I'm sure many of us would be happy to own it. But that doesn't make it historic, nor is it unique. It's a common, vernacular design from that era--not at all Victorian (which would make it more valuable)--and in fact there's a house identical to it--done by the same architect I believe--right down the street. No one argues that Webb House was worth saving *if feasible and sensible.* But not at the expense of destroying another structure that is also worth having. 2) Lake House, the apartment house which would be demolished, is NOT a structure of "no appreciable use" as stated in the article. Assertions are also repeatedly made that Lake House is beyond saving--assertions which are completely mistaken. Aurora is too short on affordable housing already; Lake House has four apartments which could be lived in again easily. 3) Locating Webb House on the site currently occupied by Lake House can in *no* way benefit the look of the neighborhood and would certainly not benefit anyone's view. In fact it's the worst possible place to insert a house as large as Webb. The "cluttered look" this would create--with the Masonic Lodge, Holland House, and Lyon House all within a few feet of the proposed site--would only leave us with a dense *block* of buildings totally negating the view of the lake for those living nearby. 4) The parties wishing to move Webb House to the Lake House site have (as far as I can tell) repeatedly failed to bring proper, scaled drawings and plans to show the boards. (they've brought drawings but none have shown true scale or measurement). It's been made clear to them that many people aren't happy with them simply submitting a "wish list" proposal for such a serious project, asking us all to "imagine" what it would be like with Webb House placed on-site. One would think that if you were presenting a controversial and difficult plan that you'd like to have passed, you'd do everything in your power to have VERY detailed and VERY professional plans made--plans drawn up by professionals, showing scale and exact, true measurement. But so far the drawings presented have been ad hoc sketches and little more. There has also been no survey made of the site as far as I know. Apparently expense is the issue. 5) But if it's a question of expense, then one wonders how anyone can afford to buy Webb house, have Lake House demolished, and move Webb into its place. Rest assured all this will cost heavily. Not only is there the cost of demolishment and moving, but there is the fact that Webb House has been up on blocks--and NOT level--for THREE years now. No blithe assumptions should be made as to the structural health of that house, therefore. Any engineer or honest contractor will tell you that you can't just have a house up on blocks, esp. off-level, for that long, without some negative effects. That'll cost. And placing Webb House on site also means diverting the flow of a creek as I understand it--a further cost. And then there's the extensive grading of the land that will need to be done to complete this "vision." Webb House simply isn't worth it. "

Full Stor(e)y wrote on May 26, 2006 9:12 AM:

" The structure is too tall, as is, and they have plans to bring in 6 feet or more of fill that will elevate the structure far over the existing building. That is setting the record straighter. "

Cynthia J. Koepp wrote on May 25, 2006 2:45 PM:

" To whom it may concern, In his story on the Aurora Zoning Board meeting concerning Webb House, your writer (Jason Gabak) misquoted me and mispelled my name. In an effort to keep the record straight, I wanted to supply the following information. We are asking for a height variance of 6" above the 35 feet stipulated in the code: that equals a 1.43% difference in height, not the 10% difference as quoted in the article. At the meeting I suggested that a 6 inch height difference of the roof line as seen from the street (130 feet away) would be virtually imperceptible. The 10%-14% difference concerned the area variance. In the neighborhood along Main Street, only one lot meets current code of 100 feet wide. The other existing lots range from 37 to 90 feet wide, with a total average of 70% of current code. The Lake House lot (at 88.33 feet wide) is the fourth largest lot along that section of the west side of Main Street and hence is well in keeping with the size of other neighborhood properties. Furthermore, the house easily conforms to all the current setback requirements. Finally, I said that this situation is unique, and that supporting our proposal would not be establishing any kind of precedent for the future. Sincerely, Cynthia J. Koepp "

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